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	<title>Comments on: MDUSD Board President disputes characterization of charter issue</title>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 04:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#15,

Hi Sue,  How is it going?  Where will you be working next year?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15,</p>
<p>Hi Sue,  How is it going?  Where will you be working next year?</p>
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		<title>By: Wait a Minute</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wait a Minute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 03:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The risks inherent in Sue Brothers masquerading again as another parent on the blogs so she can try and undermine the charter is also quite high here.

West Sac people have looked at the &quot;Concerned Parent&quot; blog posts and state that it is almost certainly Sue&#039;s propaganda and writing style. 

She is smart in an evil way and loves to use her knowledge of public education to construct elaborate arguments in her favor or against proposals she disagrees with. In other words, a manipulative evil genius basically.

The West Sac people wanted me to remind Sue that she played the same crap games in West Sac and think about where that got her in the end.  

There are plenty of other public servants that are just as smart as her and unlike her, ethical good people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The risks inherent in Sue Brothers masquerading again as another parent on the blogs so she can try and undermine the charter is also quite high here.</p>
<p>West Sac people have looked at the &#8220;Concerned Parent&#8221; blog posts and state that it is almost certainly Sue&#8217;s propaganda and writing style. </p>
<p>She is smart in an evil way and loves to use her knowledge of public education to construct elaborate arguments in her favor or against proposals she disagrees with. In other words, a manipulative evil genius basically.</p>
<p>The West Sac people wanted me to remind Sue that she played the same crap games in West Sac and think about where that got her in the end.  </p>
<p>There are plenty of other public servants that are just as smart as her and unlike her, ethical good people.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The risks inherent in this charter conversion are so high that I hope the MDUSD Board sticks to its original timeline and that the charter petitioners put alot more effort into writing a well thought out and detailed plan for CVCHS.  

This is an existing, functioning school, educating almost 1900 students.  If it fails due to lack of planning, it will be a disaster for CVCHS&#039;s students and employees, as well as the students and employees in the rest of the MDUSD. Unlike a small startup such as the Flex Academy, that can merely announce it&#039;s going to put off opening for a year and there are no consequences, once final approval is given to CVCHS, it will be impossible to stop the process, no matter now badly it goes. MDUSD will not be able to step in and rescue the school.  

I wish the charter petitioners would stop trying to rush the process and put more effort into really thinking through what they want to accomplish and how they plan to do it.  Once they&#039;ve done that, then they should present it to MSUSD for approval.  It&#039;s more important to get it done right than to get it done quickly. Why are they in such a hurry?

Take a look at the charter application criteria of large school districts, such those in Los Angeles and San Diego, that have approved many charter petitions.  After reading the CVCHS petition and looking at what&#039;s done in other districts, it&#039;s clear that the CVCHS petition didn&#039;t begin to meet the standards required.  The CVCHS steering committee and its lawyers are attempting to spin this to make it appear as if MDUSD&#039;s requirements are way beyond the law.  But keep in mind that it&#039;s a lawyer&#039;s job to advance his clients&#039; arguments.  That doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re right. 
    
If you look at what&#039;s being done in other districts you&#039;ll see that the real problem lay with the charter petition itself.  MDUSD was doing exactly what other districts - who have reviewed and approved hundreds of petitions - are required to do.  They aren&#039;t being any pickier than other districts that have reviewed and approved many charter petitions. The charter supporters failed to understand both the level of review that is legally required and the level of effort that they needed to put into the petition. 

I also worry about the lack of expertise in school management and finance that is evident in both the steering committee and the governing board.  As an example, one steering committee member who has also been elected to the governing board has publicly stated that the charter documents turned in to MDUSD are just a draft and the steering committee does not expect the governing board to be bound by them. This is the same argument (its just a draft so it doesn&#039;t  matter) that was put forth after it was discoverd that the two parent representatives on the governing board were appointed rather than elected. (That has since been changed.)   After doing a bit of research, I have found that any material revisions to the charter will require the approval of MDUSD.  It is not just a draft that can be changed or ignored at will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The risks inherent in this charter conversion are so high that I hope the MDUSD Board sticks to its original timeline and that the charter petitioners put alot more effort into writing a well thought out and detailed plan for CVCHS.  </p>
<p>This is an existing, functioning school, educating almost 1900 students.  If it fails due to lack of planning, it will be a disaster for CVCHS&#8217;s students and employees, as well as the students and employees in the rest of the MDUSD. Unlike a small startup such as the Flex Academy, that can merely announce it&#8217;s going to put off opening for a year and there are no consequences, once final approval is given to CVCHS, it will be impossible to stop the process, no matter now badly it goes. MDUSD will not be able to step in and rescue the school.  </p>
<p>I wish the charter petitioners would stop trying to rush the process and put more effort into really thinking through what they want to accomplish and how they plan to do it.  Once they&#8217;ve done that, then they should present it to MSUSD for approval.  It&#8217;s more important to get it done right than to get it done quickly. Why are they in such a hurry?</p>
<p>Take a look at the charter application criteria of large school districts, such those in Los Angeles and San Diego, that have approved many charter petitions.  After reading the CVCHS petition and looking at what&#8217;s done in other districts, it&#8217;s clear that the CVCHS petition didn&#8217;t begin to meet the standards required.  The CVCHS steering committee and its lawyers are attempting to spin this to make it appear as if MDUSD&#8217;s requirements are way beyond the law.  But keep in mind that it&#8217;s a lawyer&#8217;s job to advance his clients&#8217; arguments.  That doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re right. </p>
<p>If you look at what&#8217;s being done in other districts you&#8217;ll see that the real problem lay with the charter petition itself.  MDUSD was doing exactly what other districts &#8211; who have reviewed and approved hundreds of petitions &#8211; are required to do.  They aren&#8217;t being any pickier than other districts that have reviewed and approved many charter petitions. The charter supporters failed to understand both the level of review that is legally required and the level of effort that they needed to put into the petition. </p>
<p>I also worry about the lack of expertise in school management and finance that is evident in both the steering committee and the governing board.  As an example, one steering committee member who has also been elected to the governing board has publicly stated that the charter documents turned in to MDUSD are just a draft and the steering committee does not expect the governing board to be bound by them. This is the same argument (its just a draft so it doesn&#8217;t  matter) that was put forth after it was discoverd that the two parent representatives on the governing board were appointed rather than elected. (That has since been changed.)   After doing a bit of research, I have found that any material revisions to the charter will require the approval of MDUSD.  It is not just a draft that can be changed or ignored at will.</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa Harrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a new blog post that includes interviews with Board President Gary Eberhart, Trustee Cheryl Hansen and Clayton Mayor David Shuey about the charter debate: http://bit.ly/u5FDfz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a new blog post that includes interviews with Board President Gary Eberhart, Trustee Cheryl Hansen and Clayton Mayor David Shuey about the charter debate: <a href="http://bit.ly/u5FDfz" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/u5FDfz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doctor J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 05:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@G, thanks for the heads up on the background.  Google provides a wealth of information to sort out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@G, thanks for the heads up on the background.  Google provides a wealth of information to sort out.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 05:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tomorrow night at the Board meeting, be sure to pass Congratulations to Trustees Eberhart, Whitmarsh and Mayo who have just scored a “hat trick” by MDUSD “achieving” Program Improvement Status in ALL THREE TITLES: I, II and III. Here is the letter to be sent out by the Superintendent for newly acquired Title 1 Status. : http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/documents/leapi.doc
 Don’t break your arms patting yourself on the back. Title III – six years; Titile II = Three Years; Title 1 = First Year. Parents reading that letter will be really pleased you have accomplished so much for our students. It might even increase the CVCHS attendence. Parents might even want to get involved in the committees setting the corrective policies, since you are now required to let those parents in the secret meetings. http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/leapiyrs.asp
 BTW, I guess Lawrence missed yesterdays deadline for sending out the letter to parents — too busy opposing the charter. Hope you all got the sacrasm of “achieving Program Improvement” for having some of the worst schools in the state with no improvement year after year. And a small minority of people wonder why some want out of the failing MDUSD. Oh, and don’t forget to congratulate them also on all schools not having textbooks for all children — who is the captain of this ship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomorrow night at the Board meeting, be sure to pass Congratulations to Trustees Eberhart, Whitmarsh and Mayo who have just scored a “hat trick” by MDUSD “achieving” Program Improvement Status in ALL THREE TITLES: I, II and III. Here is the letter to be sent out by the Superintendent for newly acquired Title 1 Status. : <a href="http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/documents/leapi.doc" rel="nofollow">http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/documents/leapi.doc</a><br />
 Don’t break your arms patting yourself on the back. Title III – six years; Titile II = Three Years; Title 1 = First Year. Parents reading that letter will be really pleased you have accomplished so much for our students. It might even increase the CVCHS attendence. Parents might even want to get involved in the committees setting the corrective policies, since you are now required to let those parents in the secret meetings. <a href="http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/leapiyrs.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/leapiyrs.asp</a><br />
 BTW, I guess Lawrence missed yesterdays deadline for sending out the letter to parents — too busy opposing the charter. Hope you all got the sacrasm of “achieving Program Improvement” for having some of the worst schools in the state with no improvement year after year. And a small minority of people wonder why some want out of the failing MDUSD. Oh, and don’t forget to congratulate them also on all schools not having textbooks for all children — who is the captain of this ship.</p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
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		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 04:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oops---the Sunshine link: 

http://www.myflsunshine.com/sun.nsf/manual/A342F688127D5AFD852566F30055F8C8]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops&#8212;the Sunshine link: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.myflsunshine.com/sun.nsf/manual/A342F688127D5AFD852566F30055F8C8" rel="nofollow">http://www.myflsunshine.com/sun.nsf/manual/A342F688127D5AFD852566F30055F8C8</a></p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
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		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 04:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do the troupe at Dent just makes up the rules as they go while their legal counsel does nothing more than take turns playing Charlie and Mortimer.  

Although this (one of my favorite sites) comes out of Florida; Sunshine Law is Sunshine Law, and there are almost never legal disagreements once precedent is set. 

I direct Eberhart and Counsel Cooksey directly to Part 9, and suggest you get someone to read it to you very slowly.

I&#039;m pretty sure, the day you gave authority to your &quot;staff Committee&quot; to, on the Board&#039;s behalf, bargain, make decisions, make changes, or agreements to alter findings on the Charter application, you opened them up to Sunshine Law as they, in effect, spoke &quot;as the Board&quot;.

Anyway, since when are negotiations for anything other than &quot;some&quot; Personnel privacy and Real Estate sensitivity issues allowed to be Secret?  

Evidence has shown that once someone disagrees with her &quot;opinion&quot;, you can expect nothing short of a cat fight out of Cooksey.  Her Ego is right up there on a par with Eberhart&#039;s, but comes to us with even more baggage.  

Rolen has built up a lot of baggage.  He also has a whole lot more to lose both personally and financially if he gets caught with his hand any further down that twisted misinformation drain-hole called Dent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do the troupe at Dent just makes up the rules as they go while their legal counsel does nothing more than take turns playing Charlie and Mortimer.  </p>
<p>Although this (one of my favorite sites) comes out of Florida; Sunshine Law is Sunshine Law, and there are almost never legal disagreements once precedent is set. </p>
<p>I direct Eberhart and Counsel Cooksey directly to Part 9, and suggest you get someone to read it to you very slowly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure, the day you gave authority to your &#8220;staff Committee&#8221; to, on the Board&#8217;s behalf, bargain, make decisions, make changes, or agreements to alter findings on the Charter application, you opened them up to Sunshine Law as they, in effect, spoke &#8220;as the Board&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anyway, since when are negotiations for anything other than &#8220;some&#8221; Personnel privacy and Real Estate sensitivity issues allowed to be Secret?  </p>
<p>Evidence has shown that once someone disagrees with her &#8220;opinion&#8221;, you can expect nothing short of a cat fight out of Cooksey.  Her Ego is right up there on a par with Eberhart&#8217;s, but comes to us with even more baggage.  </p>
<p>Rolen has built up a lot of baggage.  He also has a whole lot more to lose both personally and financially if he gets caught with his hand any further down that twisted misinformation drain-hole called Dent.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tomorrow night at the Board meeting, be sure to pass Congratulations to Trustees Eberhart, Whitmarsh and Mayo who have just scored a “hat trick” by MDUSD “achieving” Program Improvement Status in ALL THREE TITLES: I, II and III. Here is the letter to be sent out by the Superintendent for newly acquired Title 1 Status. : http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/documents/leapi.doc
 Don’t break your arms patting yourself on the back. Title III – six years; Titile II = Three Years; Title 1 = First Year. Parents reading that letter will be really pleased you have accomplished so much for our students. It might even increase the CVCHS attendence. Parents might even want to get involved in the committees setting the corrective policies, since you are now required to let those parents in the secret meetings. http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/leapiyrs.asp
BTW, I guess Lawrence missed yesterdays deadline for sending out the letter to parents — too busy opposing the charter.  Hope you all got the sacrasm of &quot;achieving Program Improvement&quot; for having some of the worst schools in the state with no improvement year after year. And a small minority of people wonder why some want out of the failing MDUSD.  Oh, and don&#039;t forget to congratulate them also on all schools not having textbooks for all children -- who is the captain of this ship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomorrow night at the Board meeting, be sure to pass Congratulations to Trustees Eberhart, Whitmarsh and Mayo who have just scored a “hat trick” by MDUSD “achieving” Program Improvement Status in ALL THREE TITLES: I, II and III. Here is the letter to be sent out by the Superintendent for newly acquired Title 1 Status. : <a href="http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/documents/leapi.doc" rel="nofollow">http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/documents/leapi.doc</a><br />
 Don’t break your arms patting yourself on the back. Title III – six years; Titile II = Three Years; Title 1 = First Year. Parents reading that letter will be really pleased you have accomplished so much for our students. It might even increase the CVCHS attendence. Parents might even want to get involved in the committees setting the corrective policies, since you are now required to let those parents in the secret meetings. <a href="http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/leapiyrs.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/ac/ti/leapiyrs.asp</a><br />
BTW, I guess Lawrence missed yesterdays deadline for sending out the letter to parents — too busy opposing the charter.  Hope you all got the sacrasm of &#8220;achieving Program Improvement&#8221; for having some of the worst schools in the state with no improvement year after year. And a small minority of people wonder why some want out of the failing MDUSD.  Oh, and don&#8217;t forget to congratulate them also on all schools not having textbooks for all children &#8212; who is the captain of this ship.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t matter what kind of meeting it was.  A Board trustee cannot be limited either in attending meetings or reviewing any document, email or other communication.  Eberjart under his own argument had no right to direct the Supt to prohibit Hansen from attending.  If Cheryl Hansen didn&#039;t believe either side as to what was going on in the joint meetings, she is entitled to attend, observe, and make her own judgments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what kind of meeting it was.  A Board trustee cannot be limited either in attending meetings or reviewing any document, email or other communication.  Eberjart under his own argument had no right to direct the Supt to prohibit Hansen from attending.  If Cheryl Hansen didn&#8217;t believe either side as to what was going on in the joint meetings, she is entitled to attend, observe, and make her own judgments.</p>
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