Comments on: From the Department of Redundancy Dept. http://www.ibabuzz.com/outtakes/2007/06/26/from-the-department-of-redundancy-dept/ Sun, 31 Jul 2011 08:32:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Guytoe http://www.ibabuzz.com/outtakes/2007/06/26/from-the-department-of-redundancy-dept/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Guytoe Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:14:48 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/nightowl/?p=11#comment-8 Oh! A non-law abiding reputation venue filled with a diverse crowd of “primarily African Americans. many of them lawyers and UC doctoral students.” Sounds like a great
opportunity to glean some practical experience in criminal law and Sociology. As
suggested by previous commentary, it’s NOT the venue, it’s “the value” of the venue for
a given East Bay diversity group that’s important! Right? WRONG!

]]> By: EBNative http://www.ibabuzz.com/outtakes/2007/06/26/from-the-department-of-redundancy-dept/comment-page-1/#comment-10 EBNative Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:57:11 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/nightowl/?p=11#comment-10 Actually, I think a lot of Oaklanders have not heard of the East Bay Rats. I would think it breaks down along class and social circle lines – if bikers and wanna-bes (aka hipsters) patronize the Rats than it probably doesn’t attract the same folks who would attend @Seventeeth.

Speaking of the latter venue the last sentence of your post insinutates that the aformentioned night club attracts murder and mayhem. I know there have been some problems at @Seventeenth, but the venue provides one of the few upscale entertainment clubs in the east bay that attracts a primarily African-American crowd. While I haven’t attended either venue, I know that African American friends who mine (many of whom are attorneys and doctoral students at UC Berkeley) appreciate having an upscale night spot that attracts a diverse, primarily African American crowd in the east bay. It is unfortunate that you do not appear to be aware of the value that the venue has among other communities in Oakland.

In this day when the spirit of connection across racial lines in Oakland seems to be passing away day by day (as evidenced at the Oakland mayor’s public inaguration), we should embrace both the East Bay Rats and @Seventeeth as providing venues for the diverse set of interests that can be found in Oakland and the East Bay.

]]> By: dto510 http://www.ibabuzz.com/outtakes/2007/06/26/from-the-department-of-redundancy-dept/comment-page-1/#comment-9 dto510 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 00:09:58 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/nightowl/?p=11#comment-9 Thanks for following up on this. Please let us know whether the city tries to put the kibosh on some old-fashioned fun.

PS: The fight parties have been on cable television, too.

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