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	<title>Comments on: Edwards fans should flock to Clinton, Dellums says</title>
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		<title>By: Dennis L. Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis L. Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know how Ronald Dellums can support anyone...he has not done one thing for Oakland since he become mayor. What happen if Sen. Obama gets the nomination...then all the Calif. mayor will be sucking up to him then...trying to get some money. DON&#039;T THESE MAYOR&#039;S UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WANT CHANGE...AND THAT INCLUDES GETTING RID OF THEM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how Ronald Dellums can support anyone&#8230;he has not done one thing for Oakland since he become mayor. What happen if Sen. Obama gets the nomination&#8230;then all the Calif. mayor will be sucking up to him then&#8230;trying to get some money. DON&#8217;T THESE MAYOR&#8217;S UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WANT CHANGE&#8230;AND THAT INCLUDES GETTING RID OF THEM.</p>
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		<title>By: Enrique Ruiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enrique Ruiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree Len Raphael...

Last weekend I went back to Oakland my hometown and needless to say some of the areas of the city are looking &quot;third worldish&quot; Crumbling streets and sidewalks, litter in the streets, and murders every other day...  I mean I love Oakland I was born and raised there(Laurel District)I just hate to see it fall apart! And then to see Dellums on the campaign trail with Billary WHAT IS HE DOING!!! DELLEMS CONCENTRATE ON OAKLAND!! If not I see RECALL in your future and you wont have a job because Billary is going to lose this Super Tuesday! Sorry but I just had to say what I feel...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Len Raphael&#8230;</p>
<p>Last weekend I went back to Oakland my hometown and needless to say some of the areas of the city are looking &#8220;third worldish&#8221; Crumbling streets and sidewalks, litter in the streets, and murders every other day&#8230;  I mean I love Oakland I was born and raised there(Laurel District)I just hate to see it fall apart! And then to see Dellums on the campaign trail with Billary WHAT IS HE DOING!!! DELLEMS CONCENTRATE ON OAKLAND!! If not I see RECALL in your future and you wont have a job because Billary is going to lose this Super Tuesday! Sorry but I just had to say what I feel&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Backlash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Backlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim Hildreth

  WOW!! I have just finished reading an article about Bill Clinton&#039;s sexcapade&#039;s and how Bill and Hillary lie to cover it up.  This story is beyond belief dates times women it&#039;s disgustingly accurate.

Hillary&#039;s humiliation: How she swept Bill Clinton&#039;s affairs under the carpet
by SALLY BEDELL SMITH

One thing is to lie but to lie to your chld in such a manner...  NO WAY SHE SHOULD BE PRESIDENT THIS WOMAN IS HORRIBLE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Hildreth</p>
<p>  WOW!! I have just finished reading an article about Bill Clinton&#8217;s sexcapade&#8217;s and how Bill and Hillary lie to cover it up.  This story is beyond belief dates times women it&#8217;s disgustingly accurate.</p>
<p>Hillary&#8217;s humiliation: How she swept Bill Clinton&#8217;s affairs under the carpet<br />
by SALLY BEDELL SMITH</p>
<p>One thing is to lie but to lie to your chld in such a manner&#8230;  NO WAY SHE SHOULD BE PRESIDENT THIS WOMAN IS HORRIBLE</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hildreth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hildreth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama will duel for Super Tuesday votes tonight as the Democratic presidential hopefuls face off for the first time together minus former Sen. John Edwards. CNN Tonight at 5:0pm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama will duel for Super Tuesday votes tonight as the Democratic presidential hopefuls face off for the first time together minus former Sen. John Edwards. CNN Tonight at 5:0pm</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The New York Times article on Bill Clinton in a $31.3 million dollar donation to the Clinton Foundation is spreading like wild fire, apparently, Mayor Dellums hasn&#039;t had a chance to read it.  To me, it is an eerie step backwards into an administration that we just got out of.  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html?_r=1&amp;ref=todayspaper&amp;oref=slogin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New York Times article on Bill Clinton in a $31.3 million dollar donation to the Clinton Foundation is spreading like wild fire, apparently, Mayor Dellums hasn&#8217;t had a chance to read it.  To me, it is an eerie step backwards into an administration that we just got out of.  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html?_r=1&#038;ref=todayspaper&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html?_r=1&#038;ref=todayspaper&#038;oref=slogin</a></p>
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		<title>By: Progressive Democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Progressive Democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point is, if Dellums wants to bring jobs to the cities, why is he supporting advocates of the misnamed &quot;Free Trade&quot; doctrine which creates lowers the prices for US producers in third World countries and puts local farmers out of business?  It also lowers wages both in these countries and the US.  Only one candidate has a jobs proposal to bring jobs to the cities--Kucinich.  He proposes both a WGA administration (A Works Green Administration) to create energy jobs and another WPA program to rebuild our cities roads, sewers, energy, etc. Things like our Delta&#039;s failing dike/canal system.  There is nothing in Hillary&#039;s program to support jobs administration especially with a defense budget that now takes 50% of our federal dollars.  Hillary is there to give the stamp of approval to her husbands&#039; legacy of exporting American jobs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is, if Dellums wants to bring jobs to the cities, why is he supporting advocates of the misnamed &#8220;Free Trade&#8221; doctrine which creates lowers the prices for US producers in third World countries and puts local farmers out of business?  It also lowers wages both in these countries and the US.  Only one candidate has a jobs proposal to bring jobs to the cities&#8211;Kucinich.  He proposes both a WGA administration (A Works Green Administration) to create energy jobs and another WPA program to rebuild our cities roads, sewers, energy, etc. Things like our Delta&#8217;s failing dike/canal system.  There is nothing in Hillary&#8217;s program to support jobs administration especially with a defense budget that now takes 50% of our federal dollars.  Hillary is there to give the stamp of approval to her husbands&#8217; legacy of exporting American jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: len raphael</title>
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		<dc:creator>len raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what the heck is Dellums spending a second on the national candidates instead of taking care of business here in Oakland? Hillary will do just fine w/o your help Ron, but people are dying in the streets here, now while you barnstorm. How much longer is he going to procrastinate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the heck is Dellums spending a second on the national candidates instead of taking care of business here in Oakland? Hillary will do just fine w/o your help Ron, but people are dying in the streets here, now while you barnstorm. How much longer is he going to procrastinate?</p>
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		<title>By: Backlash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Backlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim

I like your thinking......

Why do people believe in this ill dressed charlatan politician.


1)She didn&#039;t cry at the first ceremony for the World Trade Center. when everyone else did, she looked down at the ground.

2)She didn&#039;t cry when she went past the dead Marines caskets from Iraq when the families did. She shook hands and showed no empathy at all.

3)She didn&#039;t even show ANY emotion publicly when her husband was caught in his Presidential adultery life style. Not even toward the black dress.

And now you want me to believe she was asked a question when she was the president of her college debate team, and now she crying.

Am sorry either women are still asleep at the wheel She is fooling millions so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim</p>
<p>I like your thinking&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Why do people believe in this ill dressed charlatan politician.</p>
<p>1)She didn&#8217;t cry at the first ceremony for the World Trade Center. when everyone else did, she looked down at the ground.</p>
<p>2)She didn&#8217;t cry when she went past the dead Marines caskets from Iraq when the families did. She shook hands and showed no empathy at all.</p>
<p>3)She didn&#8217;t even show ANY emotion publicly when her husband was caught in his Presidential adultery life style. Not even toward the black dress.</p>
<p>And now you want me to believe she was asked a question when she was the president of her college debate team, and now she crying.</p>
<p>Am sorry either women are still asleep at the wheel She is fooling millions so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hildreth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hildreth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recieved this yesterday from Ron Kelly a well known Berkely Mediator. I thought I would share his comments and opinion for those who have not made up there in next Tuesday vote.

Ron Kelly  wrote:

Obama - A Mediator&#039;s Candidate?


I remember early on in the campaign, before I had formed a preference, I heard an experienced Washington reporter discussing the candidates. He found Obama puzzling. He claimed that if you were in a disagreement with Obama, he would summarize your arguments even better than you could yourself. This got my attention.

Then, in an early debate, Obama was asked if he would negotiate directly with the leaders of countries with whom we have strong differences. He said yes. He was attacked by many who said this just proved how naive he was. He didn&#039;t back down. He pointed out that we negotiated with Stalin and we negotiated with Mao. He asserted that you do not need to give away anything to enter negotiations with people with whom you strongly disagree.

In speeches, he consistently advocated sitting down to negotiate with, and respectfully listening to, the heads of oil companies, pharmaceutical companies, and health care companies. He was roundly attacked as &quot;wanting to bring Kumbaya to a knife fight&quot;. He responded that he could afford to listen respectfully to the other side, especially if he was able to reach across the aisle to enlist even a few opposition Senators to his efforts.

I was skeptical. I read one of his books, &quot;The Audacity of Hope&quot;. I went back to read an article he wrote twenty years ago on why he was a community organizer (). I concluded he had been consistent his entire adult life about reaching out to those with whom you disagree to build effective working coalitions.

I listened to his January 3 Iowa speech (). He said he understood 9/11 not as a way to scare up votes, but as &quot;a challenge to unite America and the world against our common threats of terrorism and nuclear weapons, climate change and poverty, genocide and disease.&quot; His speech moved me deeply.

The next morning I woke up realizing that Obama inspired me like no other major presidential candidate has in decades. I have not heard any other politician currently on the national center stage asserting these core beliefs as consistently and effectively as Barack Obama.


Then, yesterday, I saw the letter that finally prompted me to send you this. It was signed by eighty lawyers working to preserve our rights to habeas corpus. It says:
&quot;When others stood back, Senator Obama helped lead the fight in the Senate against the Administration&#039;s efforts in the Fall of 2006 to strip the courts of jurisdiction, and when we were walking the halls of the Capitol trying to win over enough Senators to beat back the Administration&#039;s bill, Senator Obama made his key staffers and even his offices available to help us. Senator Obama worked with us to count the votes, and he personally lobbied colleagues who worried about the political ramifications of voting to preserve habeas corpus for the men held at Guantanamo.&quot;
(Full letter at .)


If you have decided to support Senator Clinton, please know I will be working enthusiastically for your candidate in November if she is the Democratic nominee. As a mediator, I have felt inspired and uplifted since deciding the morning after Iowa that I would put in some work for Obama every day until my state&#039;s primary. If you want to help him, I urge you to go now to  and to contribute as much of your time, money, letter writing, etc. as you can.

Enthusiastically yours,
Ron Kelly

PS Please forward this if you know someone who might be interested. RK]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recieved this yesterday from Ron Kelly a well known Berkely Mediator. I thought I would share his comments and opinion for those who have not made up there in next Tuesday vote.</p>
<p>Ron Kelly  wrote:</p>
<p>Obama &#8211; A Mediator&#8217;s Candidate?</p>
<p>I remember early on in the campaign, before I had formed a preference, I heard an experienced Washington reporter discussing the candidates. He found Obama puzzling. He claimed that if you were in a disagreement with Obama, he would summarize your arguments even better than you could yourself. This got my attention.</p>
<p>Then, in an early debate, Obama was asked if he would negotiate directly with the leaders of countries with whom we have strong differences. He said yes. He was attacked by many who said this just proved how naive he was. He didn&#8217;t back down. He pointed out that we negotiated with Stalin and we negotiated with Mao. He asserted that you do not need to give away anything to enter negotiations with people with whom you strongly disagree.</p>
<p>In speeches, he consistently advocated sitting down to negotiate with, and respectfully listening to, the heads of oil companies, pharmaceutical companies, and health care companies. He was roundly attacked as &#8220;wanting to bring Kumbaya to a knife fight&#8221;. He responded that he could afford to listen respectfully to the other side, especially if he was able to reach across the aisle to enlist even a few opposition Senators to his efforts.</p>
<p>I was skeptical. I read one of his books, &#8220;The Audacity of Hope&#8221;. I went back to read an article he wrote twenty years ago on why he was a community organizer (). I concluded he had been consistent his entire adult life about reaching out to those with whom you disagree to build effective working coalitions.</p>
<p>I listened to his January 3 Iowa speech (). He said he understood 9/11 not as a way to scare up votes, but as &#8220;a challenge to unite America and the world against our common threats of terrorism and nuclear weapons, climate change and poverty, genocide and disease.&#8221; His speech moved me deeply.</p>
<p>The next morning I woke up realizing that Obama inspired me like no other major presidential candidate has in decades. I have not heard any other politician currently on the national center stage asserting these core beliefs as consistently and effectively as Barack Obama.</p>
<p>Then, yesterday, I saw the letter that finally prompted me to send you this. It was signed by eighty lawyers working to preserve our rights to habeas corpus. It says:<br />
&#8220;When others stood back, Senator Obama helped lead the fight in the Senate against the Administration&#8217;s efforts in the Fall of 2006 to strip the courts of jurisdiction, and when we were walking the halls of the Capitol trying to win over enough Senators to beat back the Administration&#8217;s bill, Senator Obama made his key staffers and even his offices available to help us. Senator Obama worked with us to count the votes, and he personally lobbied colleagues who worried about the political ramifications of voting to preserve habeas corpus for the men held at Guantanamo.&#8221;<br />
(Full letter at .)</p>
<p>If you have decided to support Senator Clinton, please know I will be working enthusiastically for your candidate in November if she is the Democratic nominee. As a mediator, I have felt inspired and uplifted since deciding the morning after Iowa that I would put in some work for Obama every day until my state&#8217;s primary. If you want to help him, I urge you to go now to  and to contribute as much of your time, money, letter writing, etc. as you can.</p>
<p>Enthusiastically yours,<br />
Ron Kelly</p>
<p>PS Please forward this if you know someone who might be interested. RK</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hildreth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hildreth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Backlash- Its interesting to note that the recent South Carolina vote for Obama for those who voted, his votes came from 50% Black &amp; 25% White.

On the other hand in Nevada, the Obama vote counted on large numbers of union hispanic union workers and the polls reflected those members would vote in mass and apparently it did not happend.

I was in Sacramento on Monday and stopped for coffee and locals who were black &amp; hispanic and the coffee clatch supported Obama 3 out of 4.

You raise many good points and I have seen in my own political experience &quot;People&quot; talk and desire change and in the end the lack of partipation occurs.

Perhaps the youth and the direction of the new South may turn in a new direction?

I hope in my lifetime we can vote on the &quot;Candidate&quot; and forget the racial profiling of white, black, hispanic , asian, first woman.

Louisiana recently elected Bobby Jindal the child of Indian parents and first generation.

What was also interesting is Louisiana has always voted Democrat and Jindal is a republican, It is my opinion Louisiana wanted a change and leadership.

Something to think about?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backlash- Its interesting to note that the recent South Carolina vote for Obama for those who voted, his votes came from 50% Black &amp; 25% White.</p>
<p>On the other hand in Nevada, the Obama vote counted on large numbers of union hispanic union workers and the polls reflected those members would vote in mass and apparently it did not happend.</p>
<p>I was in Sacramento on Monday and stopped for coffee and locals who were black &amp; hispanic and the coffee clatch supported Obama 3 out of 4.</p>
<p>You raise many good points and I have seen in my own political experience &#8220;People&#8221; talk and desire change and in the end the lack of partipation occurs.</p>
<p>Perhaps the youth and the direction of the new South may turn in a new direction?</p>
<p>I hope in my lifetime we can vote on the &#8220;Candidate&#8221; and forget the racial profiling of white, black, hispanic , asian, first woman.</p>
<p>Louisiana recently elected Bobby Jindal the child of Indian parents and first generation.</p>
<p>What was also interesting is Louisiana has always voted Democrat and Jindal is a republican, It is my opinion Louisiana wanted a change and leadership.</p>
<p>Something to think about?</p>
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