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	<title>Comments on: GOP meeting generates &#8220;socialism&#8221; flap</title>
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		<title>By: Marilynne Mellander</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/03/13/gop-meeting-generates-socialism-flap/comment-page-1/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilynne Mellander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a huge sign on 580 with a picture of Mary Piepho urging her reelection to the Board of Stupes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a huge sign on 580 with a picture of Mary Piepho urging her reelection to the Board of Stupes</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hambrick</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/03/13/gop-meeting-generates-socialism-flap/comment-page-1/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hambrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Renegade, what I wrote is no slap at Lisa.  I agree with everything you said about her.  She knows what she heard and I know what I heard.

Lisa does an excellent job asnd keep up the great job, Lisa!

But the bottom line is, whatever she said, Piepho has to go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Renegade, what I wrote is no slap at Lisa.  I agree with everything you said about her.  She knows what she heard and I know what I heard.</p>
<p>Lisa does an excellent job asnd keep up the great job, Lisa!</p>
<p>But the bottom line is, whatever she said, Piepho has to go.</p>
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		<title>By: renegade GOP</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/03/13/gop-meeting-generates-socialism-flap/comment-page-1/#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>renegade GOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Get a grip Ken. Lisa V. is the best political beat reporter we have had in this county since Pat Keeble.
She does a fine job and trys very hard to be balanced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a grip Ken. Lisa V. is the best political beat reporter we have had in this county since Pat Keeble.<br />
She does a fine job and trys very hard to be balanced.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hambrick</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/03/13/gop-meeting-generates-socialism-flap/comment-page-1/#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hambrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Lisa, but I was there just like you.  I heard her call her BOS colleagues socialists and there were no quotation marks around it nor was it said with humor.

Maybe it was a slip of the tongue, but she said it loud and clear.  So you, she and Simonsen can make excuses, but my hearing is very good.

Meanwhile her &quot;approach with her colleagues&quot; is nothing more than selling out to the liberal members and joining them on all issues.  The Board always votes 5-0 (only one time 4-1 and that was Bonilla).

If Piepho has any concerns about what the board is doing she certainly is effective in hiding them (about the only thing she is effective at).

As to demanding the county immediately put $250 million annually into the OPEB debt, no one I know including myself has made such a &quot;demand&quot;.

What we are &quot;demanding&quot; is that the county prepare and execute a plan to address this multi-billion dollar debt.  So far the BOS hasn&#039;t done this and has only taken &quot;baby steps&quot; toward it without putting any real dollars into the OPEB pot.

NOTE FROM LISA V.
&lt;em&gt;Ken, I make no excuses for anyone, especially elected officials and you know that. Too often, members of the media pull quotes out of context and misrepresent what people say in order to seek a sensationalist story or headline.  From my seat in the front row and following the content of her introduction to the stage, her use of  the term &quot;socialists&quot; was crystal clear. As for whether or not her management style and her policy positions are good or bad, that&#039;s up to you and the voters to decide on June 3.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Lisa, but I was there just like you.  I heard her call her BOS colleagues socialists and there were no quotation marks around it nor was it said with humor.</p>
<p>Maybe it was a slip of the tongue, but she said it loud and clear.  So you, she and Simonsen can make excuses, but my hearing is very good.</p>
<p>Meanwhile her &#8220;approach with her colleagues&#8221; is nothing more than selling out to the liberal members and joining them on all issues.  The Board always votes 5-0 (only one time 4-1 and that was Bonilla).</p>
<p>If Piepho has any concerns about what the board is doing she certainly is effective in hiding them (about the only thing she is effective at).</p>
<p>As to demanding the county immediately put $250 million annually into the OPEB debt, no one I know including myself has made such a &#8220;demand&#8221;.</p>
<p>What we are &#8220;demanding&#8221; is that the county prepare and execute a plan to address this multi-billion dollar debt.  So far the BOS hasn&#8217;t done this and has only taken &#8220;baby steps&#8221; toward it without putting any real dollars into the OPEB pot.</p>
<p>NOTE FROM LISA V.<br />
<em>Ken, I make no excuses for anyone, especially elected officials and you know that. Too often, members of the media pull quotes out of context and misrepresent what people say in order to seek a sensationalist story or headline.  From my seat in the front row and following the content of her introduction to the stage, her use of  the term &#8220;socialists&#8221; was crystal clear. As for whether or not her management style and her policy positions are good or bad, that&#8217;s up to you and the voters to decide on June 3.</em></p>
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		<title>By: renegade GOP</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/03/13/gop-meeting-generates-socialism-flap/comment-page-1/#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>renegade GOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 03:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am glad you were paying attention Lisa. That was a snoozer of a speech she gave. Mary&#039;s words rang out like flat dishwater. I remember her saying something about socialists very quickly but I don&#039;t remember the context.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad you were paying attention Lisa. That was a snoozer of a speech she gave. Mary&#8217;s words rang out like flat dishwater. I remember her saying something about socialists very quickly but I don&#8217;t remember the context.</p>
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		<title>By: Arne Simonsen</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/03/13/gop-meeting-generates-socialism-flap/comment-page-1/#comment-739</link>
		<dc:creator>Arne Simonsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree with Supervisor Piepho&#039;s approach with her colleagues on the County Board of Supervisors.

While some believe she should be &quot;hammering&quot; her fellow supervisors, that would only result in the &quot;status quo&quot; and being the lone &quot;NO&quot; vote.

Others &quot;demand&quot; that the County put some $250 million in their current budget to cut into their OPEB obligations - but, the County doesn&#039;t have $250 million. Common sense needs to prevail and some need a reality check.

There is no doubt in my mind that Mary understands the gravity of the County budget and OPEB obligations; and she has worked with her fellow supervisors to start addressing those issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Supervisor Piepho&#8217;s approach with her colleagues on the County Board of Supervisors.</p>
<p>While some believe she should be &#8220;hammering&#8221; her fellow supervisors, that would only result in the &#8220;status quo&#8221; and being the lone &#8220;NO&#8221; vote.</p>
<p>Others &#8220;demand&#8221; that the County put some $250 million in their current budget to cut into their OPEB obligations &#8211; but, the County doesn&#8217;t have $250 million. Common sense needs to prevail and some need a reality check.</p>
<p>There is no doubt in my mind that Mary understands the gravity of the County budget and OPEB obligations; and she has worked with her fellow supervisors to start addressing those issues.</p>
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