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	<title>Comments on: Move America Forward&#8217;s report, dissected</title>
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		<title>By: Report details civil disobedience at recruiting sites - Inside Politics - with Lisa Vorderbrueggen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Report details civil disobedience at recruiting sites - Inside Politics - with Lisa Vorderbrueggen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] colleague Josh Richman at the Oakland Tribune blogged about a report out from Move America Forward, a conservative group responsible for the grassroots&#8217; response to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Will Oiubeccia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Oiubeccia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca,
If it were not for men and women willing to make the ultimate sacrifices -- their lives, their health, even the risk of becoming homeless -- this entire country may become &quot;homeless&quot; for any system based on individual liberties. Your cowardice -- &quot;don&#039;t enlist, you might get hurt&quot; is absurd. Put your money where your mouth is: next time your property is being robbed or you have a fire in your house, don&#039;t call the police or firemen. One of them may become disabled while fighting for your property rights.

By the way, you suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca,<br />
If it were not for men and women willing to make the ultimate sacrifices &#8212; their lives, their health, even the risk of becoming homeless &#8212; this entire country may become &#8220;homeless&#8221; for any system based on individual liberties. Your cowardice &#8212; &#8220;don&#8217;t enlist, you might get hurt&#8221; is absurd. Put your money where your mouth is: next time your property is being robbed or you have a fire in your house, don&#8217;t call the police or firemen. One of them may become disabled while fighting for your property rights.</p>
<p>By the way, you suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kaplan, what have YOU done for HOMELESS VETS?

I&#039;m talking your time, your money.

What have YOU done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kaplan, what have YOU done for HOMELESS VETS?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m talking your time, your money.</p>
<p>What have YOU done?</p>
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		<title>By: Hector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice Josh doesn&#039;t dispute that World Can&#039;t Wait is a front group for the Revolutionary Communist Party cult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice Josh doesn&#8217;t dispute that World Can&#8217;t Wait is a front group for the Revolutionary Communist Party cult.</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traitors every single one of you that support total morons like code pink</description>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Kaplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Kaplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this thoughtful analysis.  Oddly, even if &quot;MAF&quot; were to succeed in getting rid of the protest, they would still not have eliminated the most powerful counter-recruitment message from the streets of Berkeley.  While I do not think this protest is an effective way to end the war, I also know that insulting the protest will not help the &quot;pro-military&quot; cause.

Because the most powerful anti-recruitment message on the streets of Berkeley is really the vast population of homeless veterans.  If anybody was looking for a reason not to join the military, they don&#039;t need to listen to code pink.  All they need to do is look at the way veterans are treated.  And, if MAF cares about what they claim to, they should be more upset about the homeless veterans than about the peace activists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this thoughtful analysis.  Oddly, even if &#8220;MAF&#8221; were to succeed in getting rid of the protest, they would still not have eliminated the most powerful counter-recruitment message from the streets of Berkeley.  While I do not think this protest is an effective way to end the war, I also know that insulting the protest will not help the &#8220;pro-military&#8221; cause.</p>
<p>Because the most powerful anti-recruitment message on the streets of Berkeley is really the vast population of homeless veterans.  If anybody was looking for a reason not to join the military, they don&#8217;t need to listen to code pink.  All they need to do is look at the way veterans are treated.  And, if MAF cares about what they claim to, they should be more upset about the homeless veterans than about the peace activists.</p>
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