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		<title>By: John's Son</title>
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		<dc:creator>John's Son</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never thought I would see the day that I would agree with Hillary about anything, but her point  that Senator Barach H. Oboma is an  elitist is right on the mark. I also believe Barach H. Oboma is a very inteligent politician and doesn&#039;t say anything he hasn&#039;t carefully thought out to have the maximum affect. What I mean is, he knew  the public reaction was going to be negative, and that he would emerge stronger having gained respect from his party faithful for saying something no thoughtful person would even consider but was designed get the publics attention big time.
To that end he has succeeded and will receive an atta boy from George Soros and Reverend Wright.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never thought I would see the day that I would agree with Hillary about anything, but her point  that Senator Barach H. Oboma is an  elitist is right on the mark. I also believe Barach H. Oboma is a very inteligent politician and doesn&#8217;t say anything he hasn&#8217;t carefully thought out to have the maximum affect. What I mean is, he knew  the public reaction was going to be negative, and that he would emerge stronger having gained respect from his party faithful for saying something no thoughtful person would even consider but was designed get the publics attention big time.<br />
To that end he has succeeded and will receive an atta boy from George Soros and Reverend Wright.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Fulkerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well said mark semper fi]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said mark semper fi</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to make a comment on Joseph Morin&#039;s post. Although it might not be seen, because of the media agenda setters and gate keepers.

If Nancy Pelosi, or any legislator, were to return to their home offices during a legislative break. This would be the scenario if a group of veterans were demonstrating:  The legislator drives up to the federal building or office.  Demonstrators obtruct her/his ability to get from the car to the door. Then as Nancy(legislator) tries to make her/his way, placard carrying Veterans yell to support our troops and allow them to fight terrorism. As Nancy(or him) walks to the door, there are Veterans and families of military people chained to the entrance obstructing and impeding Nancy(or other legislator) ability to get to her/his offices.

U.S. Marshalls rush out of the Federal building from other entrances as they call for local law enforcement backup. If there are other Federal Law Enforcement Agents in the building, they swarm out, too.

Bolt cutters magically appear and begin to cut the chains. Police begin dragging off the Veterans and haul them to jail.  The Veterans and some military family demonstrators are booked, arraigned and charged with various crimes:  Impeding, threatening a federal official, endangerment, disruption, civil rights violations, hate crimes, etc.  Some may be fined, others may spend jail time.  Since I have experience in the government and have worked in a Federal Building, this is not a hypothetical scenario.

Now, a military recruiter is subjected to the situation. Do federal Marshalls come to his rescue? Do the local police in Berkely do anything?  Are the more physical Code Pink members carted off to jail? Do the protestors who chain themselves to doors, get arrested or fined for impedence or any other crime?

Get the picture?  The military recruiter is also a federal agent and employee? But, his/her civil rights are less important than a legislator&#039;s or a member of &quot;Code Pink.&quot;  Nancy Pelosi would be protected and supported by the full letter of the law, quickly and thoroughly. Both by federal and civil law. A legislator is a servant of the people, who enjoys immense prestige and comforts.  A military recruiter is a servant of the people, who does his job with minimal comforts, supports himself on a pay scale below the national average, and is subjected to derision and indignities at the hands of groups like Code Pink.

So, does that military recruiter have the benefits of equal justice or consideration under our laws? You all draw your own conclusions.  Nancy Pelosi and her colleagues have never faced life on the receiving end of an AK-47, a rocket propelled grenade, or scanning side walks, roads and trails for explosive booby traps.  Nancy Pelosi and some of her colleagues have never crawled through a combat course with 1/4 pound blocks of TNT going off, with live machine gun bullets whipping overhead.

So, why is it,a legislator receives more support, prestige, pay and benefits, and protection under the law, than a military person?  Believe me, I know the procedures for demonstrators impeding the progress of legislators trying to get to and from their offices. Just remember this--if this gets posted--the reality is, right now, that a legislator who is a servant of the people, would have more rights and protection under the law, than what our recruiters are dealing with in Berkely and other cities in the U.S. Yet, our military personnel put their lives on the line, everyday, for a lot less recompense and protection under the law, than some one-term legislator &quot;feathering&quot; his/her nest as a hedge against being re-elected.

Perhaps, the Constitution needs to be amended so that no politician can be elected to federal office, without having served in some type of federal service...VA Hospitals, Army Corps of Engineers, the Peace Corps, Vista, the Armed Forces.  That system seems to work in other democracies or parliamentary governments, why not ours. It&#039;s obvious that many of our legislators have no concept of what real service to our country entails. It was all too apparent at some of the legislative sessions and soirees, I attended.

S/F
Mark
USMC(Ret)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to make a comment on Joseph Morin&#8217;s post. Although it might not be seen, because of the media agenda setters and gate keepers.</p>
<p>If Nancy Pelosi, or any legislator, were to return to their home offices during a legislative break. This would be the scenario if a group of veterans were demonstrating:  The legislator drives up to the federal building or office.  Demonstrators obtruct her/his ability to get from the car to the door. Then as Nancy(legislator) tries to make her/his way, placard carrying Veterans yell to support our troops and allow them to fight terrorism. As Nancy(or him) walks to the door, there are Veterans and families of military people chained to the entrance obstructing and impeding Nancy(or other legislator) ability to get to her/his offices.</p>
<p>U.S. Marshalls rush out of the Federal building from other entrances as they call for local law enforcement backup. If there are other Federal Law Enforcement Agents in the building, they swarm out, too.</p>
<p>Bolt cutters magically appear and begin to cut the chains. Police begin dragging off the Veterans and haul them to jail.  The Veterans and some military family demonstrators are booked, arraigned and charged with various crimes:  Impeding, threatening a federal official, endangerment, disruption, civil rights violations, hate crimes, etc.  Some may be fined, others may spend jail time.  Since I have experience in the government and have worked in a Federal Building, this is not a hypothetical scenario.</p>
<p>Now, a military recruiter is subjected to the situation. Do federal Marshalls come to his rescue? Do the local police in Berkely do anything?  Are the more physical Code Pink members carted off to jail? Do the protestors who chain themselves to doors, get arrested or fined for impedence or any other crime?</p>
<p>Get the picture?  The military recruiter is also a federal agent and employee? But, his/her civil rights are less important than a legislator&#8217;s or a member of &#8220;Code Pink.&#8221;  Nancy Pelosi would be protected and supported by the full letter of the law, quickly and thoroughly. Both by federal and civil law. A legislator is a servant of the people, who enjoys immense prestige and comforts.  A military recruiter is a servant of the people, who does his job with minimal comforts, supports himself on a pay scale below the national average, and is subjected to derision and indignities at the hands of groups like Code Pink.</p>
<p>So, does that military recruiter have the benefits of equal justice or consideration under our laws? You all draw your own conclusions.  Nancy Pelosi and her colleagues have never faced life on the receiving end of an AK-47, a rocket propelled grenade, or scanning side walks, roads and trails for explosive booby traps.  Nancy Pelosi and some of her colleagues have never crawled through a combat course with 1/4 pound blocks of TNT going off, with live machine gun bullets whipping overhead.</p>
<p>So, why is it,a legislator receives more support, prestige, pay and benefits, and protection under the law, than a military person?  Believe me, I know the procedures for demonstrators impeding the progress of legislators trying to get to and from their offices. Just remember this&#8211;if this gets posted&#8211;the reality is, right now, that a legislator who is a servant of the people, would have more rights and protection under the law, than what our recruiters are dealing with in Berkely and other cities in the U.S. Yet, our military personnel put their lives on the line, everyday, for a lot less recompense and protection under the law, than some one-term legislator &#8220;feathering&#8221; his/her nest as a hedge against being re-elected.</p>
<p>Perhaps, the Constitution needs to be amended so that no politician can be elected to federal office, without having served in some type of federal service&#8230;VA Hospitals, Army Corps of Engineers, the Peace Corps, Vista, the Armed Forces.  That system seems to work in other democracies or parliamentary governments, why not ours. It&#8217;s obvious that many of our legislators have no concept of what real service to our country entails. It was all too apparent at some of the legislative sessions and soirees, I attended.</p>
<p>S/F<br />
Mark<br />
USMC(Ret)</p>
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		<title>By: lawnie Duran</title>
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		<dc:creator>lawnie Duran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done people!  You are now their hero and I use to be a frequent shopper in Bezerkly, but I just had an awakening, I had no idea that town was so Anti Military personel.  I am proud to say &quot;Thank Goodness for our men and woman of the military and for my freedom here in the USA.  Perhaps those people could move to Africa, Iraq, Turkey for that matter and try to imploy their interests and concerns their and be hippie about it.  Yeah, they could be hippies their.
Let&#039;s start a fund for sending them their, free tickets for sure. Are you with me?
Lawnie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done people!  You are now their hero and I use to be a frequent shopper in Bezerkly, but I just had an awakening, I had no idea that town was so Anti Military personel.  I am proud to say &#8220;Thank Goodness for our men and woman of the military and for my freedom here in the USA.  Perhaps those people could move to Africa, Iraq, Turkey for that matter and try to imploy their interests and concerns their and be hippie about it.  Yeah, they could be hippies their.<br />
Let&#8217;s start a fund for sending them their, free tickets for sure. Are you with me?<br />
Lawnie</p>
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		<title>By: We made good on our promise &#171; Maria&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>We made good on our promise &#171; Maria&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 1.  Report from the San Jose Mercury News/Contra Costa Times &#8220;Political Blotter&#8221; here: http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/03/31/will-fbi-probe-berkeley-recruiting-stance/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1.  Report from the San Jose Mercury News/Contra Costa Times &#8220;Political Blotter&#8221; here: <a href="http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/03/31/will-fbi-probe-berkeley-recruiting-stance/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/03/31/will-fbi-probe-berkeley-recruiting-stance/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I watched some of those code pink people...I realize just how out of touch these people are!   We all want peace but the reality of life is, there are people in this world who want to kill us and there are brave young men and women who have volunteered and are volunteering to defend our nation.  To try to stop them from doing so and to hear them say our men are over there &quot;slaughtering&quot; people as if we are killing innocent people...and to call our Marines...which includes my son who has done three tours in Iraq unwanted and unwelcome in his own country...is just so hurtful.   As a Marine parent I wonder if these people have any idea how much that hurts.   I don&#039;t think they really care.   I wonder how many other parents have cried like I have cried.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I watched some of those code pink people&#8230;I realize just how out of touch these people are!   We all want peace but the reality of life is, there are people in this world who want to kill us and there are brave young men and women who have volunteered and are volunteering to defend our nation.  To try to stop them from doing so and to hear them say our men are over there &#8220;slaughtering&#8221; people as if we are killing innocent people&#8230;and to call our Marines&#8230;which includes my son who has done three tours in Iraq unwanted and unwelcome in his own country&#8230;is just so hurtful.   As a Marine parent I wonder if these people have any idea how much that hurts.   I don&#8217;t think they really care.   I wonder how many other parents have cried like I have cried.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Fulkerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bet the the people on the boaard and the morons in code pink were the same morons that spit on me when I returned from Viet Nam.  I came back 100% disabled, so these creeps can live free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet the the people on the boaard and the morons in code pink were the same morons that spit on me when I returned from Viet Nam.  I came back 100% disabled, so these creeps can live free.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;Berkeley Businesses for Peace&#8217; - Political Blotter - Politics in the Bay Area and beyond</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;Berkeley Businesses for Peace&#8217; - Political Blotter - Politics in the Bay Area and beyond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Will FBI probe Berkeley recruiting stance? [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Joseph Morin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Morin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since the Berkeley police did nothing to seperate
the commie American thugs from the Marine supporters,
should&#039;nt the Federal Marshals be called in to enter the city, and charge the Berkeley police of not doing
their duty to protect everyone.
 The police in this cesspool city should have the CRAP
sued out of them and the city government as well.
 THIS CRAP SHOULD BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS EVEN IF IT
MEANS THE FEDERAL MARSHALS TAKING OVER THIS CESSPOOL!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the Berkeley police did nothing to seperate<br />
the commie American thugs from the Marine supporters,<br />
should&#8217;nt the Federal Marshals be called in to enter the city, and charge the Berkeley police of not doing<br />
their duty to protect everyone.<br />
 The police in this cesspool city should have the CRAP<br />
sued out of them and the city government as well.<br />
 THIS CRAP SHOULD BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS EVEN IF IT<br />
MEANS THE FEDERAL MARSHALS TAKING OVER THIS CESSPOOL!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Forrest Carper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forrest Carper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am curious as to what the three Presidential Candidate&#039;s, John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, position is on this subject?

Senator (name) Do you feel the City of Berkeley broke the law with its anti-Marine recruiting stance?  Do you support Code Pink/Other protestors being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if they are found to be in violation of any Federal/State Law by anyone who is impeding recruitment of men and women into the United States military.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious as to what the three Presidential Candidate&#8217;s, John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, position is on this subject?</p>
<p>Senator (name) Do you feel the City of Berkeley broke the law with its anti-Marine recruiting stance?  Do you support Code Pink/Other protestors being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if they are found to be in violation of any Federal/State Law by anyone who is impeding recruitment of men and women into the United States military.</p>
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