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		<title>By: Michael Giton</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/09/26/let-the-debates-cd11-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-2363</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Giton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Questions

Bailout
Bailout Pork (150b) - if its so important
Bailout

Why not use the FDIC (regulated and with oversight) to save credit markets?

Executive Compensation is a sham. There are no limits.
It only gets rid of tax deduction (Corp wont pay anyway), and loopholes you could drive a brinks truck through.

More bailout money needed after elections just the beginning.

How are we to pay for bailout?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Questions</p>
<p>Bailout<br />
Bailout Pork (150b) &#8211; if its so important<br />
Bailout</p>
<p>Why not use the FDIC (regulated and with oversight) to save credit markets?</p>
<p>Executive Compensation is a sham. There are no limits.<br />
It only gets rid of tax deduction (Corp wont pay anyway), and loopholes you could drive a brinks truck through.</p>
<p>More bailout money needed after elections just the beginning.</p>
<p>How are we to pay for bailout?</p>
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		<title>By: Freak_of_the_far_right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freak_of_the_far_right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter, GOP

Giving odds would be great!
Maybe McNerny will be like those 1994 GOP freshman that got beat in 1996.

Well &quot;that is why they play the games.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter, GOP</p>
<p>Giving odds would be great!<br />
Maybe McNerny will be like those 1994 GOP freshman that got beat in 1996.</p>
<p>Well &#8220;that is why they play the games.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Walter, GOP Livermore City-Chair</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/09/26/let-the-debates-cd11-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-2361</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter, GOP Livermore City-Chair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freak_of_the_far_right,

Great points! Maybe we should start giving odds and holding bets? I&#039;m willing to take a chance with Andal pulling the upset win over the liberal! I may sound like a big risk-taker, but there&#039;s always that &quot;bail-out&quot; option... Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freak_of_the_far_right,</p>
<p>Great points! Maybe we should start giving odds and holding bets? I&#8217;m willing to take a chance with Andal pulling the upset win over the liberal! I may sound like a big risk-taker, but there&#8217;s always that &#8220;bail-out&#8221; option&#8230; Right?</p>
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		<title>By: RR</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of FDR&#039;s complaints in the 1932 race was that Hoover spent too much of the taxpayers&#039; hard-earned money! It&#039;s even harder to take Andal seriously. If he&#039;s elected, he has to work in DC, not Stockton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of FDR&#8217;s complaints in the 1932 race was that Hoover spent too much of the taxpayers&#8217; hard-earned money! It&#8217;s even harder to take Andal seriously. If he&#8217;s elected, he has to work in DC, not Stockton.</p>
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		<title>By: Freak_of_the_far_right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freak_of_the_far_right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter GOP,

Thanks for the thoughtful response. If you want to spend your time contacting Democrats and trying to convice them to vote like conservatives, then go ahead.
I don&#039;t think that is a good use of time but you go man.

As for Andal what else is he going to tell you. &quot;Gee Walter I want your and I promise you I will raise taxes?&quot; Please... He like all pols will say what it takes to get elected. What you should ask him is what will he do about earmarks? Will he let the fact that he is letting the Republican Congressional leadership (check todays fund raiser)from DC influence him. Don&#039;t you think they will call in their chits when they need a vote on a bill. Do you really think that freshman Andal can stand up to the pressure they will put on him any more than 7 term Richard Pombo did? I wish we would have had a competitave primary and we could have sent a pitbull instead of John Boehner&#039;s poodle to take on McNerny.

You point about the Andal getting more votes is interesting. Rememeber that McNerny was running without opposition. Or any real opposition. And he also won in 2006  with a lot of crossover Republicans and decline to states who can&#039;t vote in a Democrat primary. So you have to wonder what Republicans are going to defect. My guess is the conservatives via the Sarah Palin effect will come home. But are there enough of them to make a difference. The registration is even less favorable than in 2006. With the GOP stock so low I would guess it is the moderate Republicans who will not want to send the ultra conservative Andal to DC. The other question is what about the growing number of Decline to state voters. I would think they are not excited to send another verson of baker/pombo to replace McNerny. The anger to replace him just is not there like it was in 2006 against Pombo.

And finally is Andal going to raise any money? I saw where he finally got 800k cash on hand. McNerny must have close to 2 million cash on hand. Plus his party has the money and is willing spend what it takes. While the congressional republican campaign comittee is cash starved.

It will be very exciting to see how it all works out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter GOP,</p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughtful response. If you want to spend your time contacting Democrats and trying to convice them to vote like conservatives, then go ahead.<br />
I don&#8217;t think that is a good use of time but you go man.</p>
<p>As for Andal what else is he going to tell you. &#8220;Gee Walter I want your and I promise you I will raise taxes?&#8221; Please&#8230; He like all pols will say what it takes to get elected. What you should ask him is what will he do about earmarks? Will he let the fact that he is letting the Republican Congressional leadership (check todays fund raiser)from DC influence him. Don&#8217;t you think they will call in their chits when they need a vote on a bill. Do you really think that freshman Andal can stand up to the pressure they will put on him any more than 7 term Richard Pombo did? I wish we would have had a competitave primary and we could have sent a pitbull instead of John Boehner&#8217;s poodle to take on McNerny.</p>
<p>You point about the Andal getting more votes is interesting. Rememeber that McNerny was running without opposition. Or any real opposition. And he also won in 2006  with a lot of crossover Republicans and decline to states who can&#8217;t vote in a Democrat primary. So you have to wonder what Republicans are going to defect. My guess is the conservatives via the Sarah Palin effect will come home. But are there enough of them to make a difference. The registration is even less favorable than in 2006. With the GOP stock so low I would guess it is the moderate Republicans who will not want to send the ultra conservative Andal to DC. The other question is what about the growing number of Decline to state voters. I would think they are not excited to send another verson of baker/pombo to replace McNerny. The anger to replace him just is not there like it was in 2006 against Pombo.</p>
<p>And finally is Andal going to raise any money? I saw where he finally got 800k cash on hand. McNerny must have close to 2 million cash on hand. Plus his party has the money and is willing spend what it takes. While the congressional republican campaign comittee is cash starved.</p>
<p>It will be very exciting to see how it all works out!</p>
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		<title>By: John W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wilson/Buchanan is interesting.  Although I&#039;m a Democrat, I&#039;m pretty much an independent when it comes to state and local offices.  It&#039;s about who can make the trains run on time.  Fine job of that we&#039;re doing here in California!  Wilson has done a good job as mayor in San Ramon, where I live.  And I&#039;m not real fond of anybody who is the pocket of the public employee unions.  However, once Wilson gets to Sacramento (if he does), his natural pragmatic approach to issues is likely to be squashed by &quot;party discipline&quot; imposed by the Taliban Republicans.  He signed Grover Norquist&#039;s &quot;no tax&quot; pledge, which bothers me.  It&#039;s not that I&#039;m for more taxes.  However, elected representatives should make their pledges to the voters, not to private groups such as Norquist&#039;s.  Until we get rid of the super-majority requirement for  passing a budget (a move even McClintock seems to favor, for his own reasons), I&#039;m not inclined to give the Reeps more votes in the Assembly.  Wilson&#039;s TV spot is a bit odd, showing him getting dressed.  What&#039;s that about?  I&#039;ve never been able to find out much about his non-mayor life -- other than vague references to his investment banking career, his military service and his wife &quot;Dr. Karen Wilson.&quot;  Not suggesting anything nefarious.  I just like to know more about the people running for office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wilson/Buchanan is interesting.  Although I&#8217;m a Democrat, I&#8217;m pretty much an independent when it comes to state and local offices.  It&#8217;s about who can make the trains run on time.  Fine job of that we&#8217;re doing here in California!  Wilson has done a good job as mayor in San Ramon, where I live.  And I&#8217;m not real fond of anybody who is the pocket of the public employee unions.  However, once Wilson gets to Sacramento (if he does), his natural pragmatic approach to issues is likely to be squashed by &#8220;party discipline&#8221; imposed by the Taliban Republicans.  He signed Grover Norquist&#8217;s &#8220;no tax&#8221; pledge, which bothers me.  It&#8217;s not that I&#8217;m for more taxes.  However, elected representatives should make their pledges to the voters, not to private groups such as Norquist&#8217;s.  Until we get rid of the super-majority requirement for  passing a budget (a move even McClintock seems to favor, for his own reasons), I&#8217;m not inclined to give the Reeps more votes in the Assembly.  Wilson&#8217;s TV spot is a bit odd, showing him getting dressed.  What&#8217;s that about?  I&#8217;ve never been able to find out much about his non-mayor life &#8212; other than vague references to his investment banking career, his military service and his wife &#8220;Dr. Karen Wilson.&#8221;  Not suggesting anything nefarious.  I just like to know more about the people running for office.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter, GOP Livermore City-Chair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter, GOP Livermore City-Chair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freak_of_the_far_right,

Although Tauscher is a liberal gun-grabber and McNerney is an open-border advocate, and they both support socialist bail-outs at the expense of the tax-payers, it&#039;s still worth a call in my opinion.

When Dianne Feinstein reports that out of 95,000 calls, letters and emails from California voters (in the past few days) 85,000 are strongly against the proposed bail-out, yet she still votes for it - I can understand your point. That doesn&#039;t mean that we just give up though.

I send letters and emails to these people all the time. For the most part, I find it worth my time. Plus, these people need to hear from, &quot;We the People&quot; as much as possible.

I respectfully disagree with you on the Dean Andal/ Jerry McNerney race. Andal received more votes than McNerney in the Primary and we all know Republicans always have poor turn-out in Primary Elections. This one will be close. Dean Andal has told me personally that he will, &quot;never cast a vote to raise our taxes.&quot; For that reason, I would think he would be against the bail-out.

The Wilson/Buchanan race will be close too and the  November 4th General Election will be interesting, that&#039;s for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freak_of_the_far_right,</p>
<p>Although Tauscher is a liberal gun-grabber and McNerney is an open-border advocate, and they both support socialist bail-outs at the expense of the tax-payers, it&#8217;s still worth a call in my opinion.</p>
<p>When Dianne Feinstein reports that out of 95,000 calls, letters and emails from California voters (in the past few days) 85,000 are strongly against the proposed bail-out, yet she still votes for it &#8211; I can understand your point. That doesn&#8217;t mean that we just give up though.</p>
<p>I send letters and emails to these people all the time. For the most part, I find it worth my time. Plus, these people need to hear from, &#8220;We the People&#8221; as much as possible.</p>
<p>I respectfully disagree with you on the Dean Andal/ Jerry McNerney race. Andal received more votes than McNerney in the Primary and we all know Republicans always have poor turn-out in Primary Elections. This one will be close. Dean Andal has told me personally that he will, &#8220;never cast a vote to raise our taxes.&#8221; For that reason, I would think he would be against the bail-out.</p>
<p>The Wilson/Buchanan race will be close too and the  November 4th General Election will be interesting, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Freak_of_the_far_right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freak_of_the_far_right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Walter GOP Yes it would be nice if the sun would always shine and the earth were flat. But your sort of root canal republicanism will never work. The fact that you even bothered to call Tauscher or McNerney is laughable. Do you really think they care anything at all about what you think? They do what they want and they let the Republicans complains fall on deaf ears. The short lived Republican revolution in Contra costa county has been over for years. Tauscher vanquished the regieme of Bill Baker and McNerney vanquished  Richard Pombo. McNerney is the favorite to hold the seat. And conservative savior Dean Andal cannot win. He will lose in a narrowly. This will be the death for the far right in Contra Costa County. They will not hold office anywhere in the Bay Area. I mean sure there are Republicans in nonpartisan office but they are afraid to wear there GOP badges in public. Case in point. Contra Costa&#039;s own Sarah Palin look alike Mary Piepho passed up a chance for Guy Houstons vacated seat to hold her nonpartisan seat. Smart politics on her part. The only chance for the GOP in the Bay Area is to elect Republican Abram Wilson to the 15th Assembly district. Wilson is really going to have to work hard because he opponent is raising loads of cash from all the usual suspects.
Funny but has anyone heard from Andal about the Wall Street bail out? My email from him has been empty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Walter GOP Yes it would be nice if the sun would always shine and the earth were flat. But your sort of root canal republicanism will never work. The fact that you even bothered to call Tauscher or McNerney is laughable. Do you really think they care anything at all about what you think? They do what they want and they let the Republicans complains fall on deaf ears. The short lived Republican revolution in Contra costa county has been over for years. Tauscher vanquished the regieme of Bill Baker and McNerney vanquished  Richard Pombo. McNerney is the favorite to hold the seat. And conservative savior Dean Andal cannot win. He will lose in a narrowly. This will be the death for the far right in Contra Costa County. They will not hold office anywhere in the Bay Area. I mean sure there are Republicans in nonpartisan office but they are afraid to wear there GOP badges in public. Case in point. Contra Costa&#8217;s own Sarah Palin look alike Mary Piepho passed up a chance for Guy Houstons vacated seat to hold her nonpartisan seat. Smart politics on her part. The only chance for the GOP in the Bay Area is to elect Republican Abram Wilson to the 15th Assembly district. Wilson is really going to have to work hard because he opponent is raising loads of cash from all the usual suspects.<br />
Funny but has anyone heard from Andal about the Wall Street bail out? My email from him has been empty.</p>
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		<title>By: John W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McNerney is one of the few Congressmen of either party in a competitive district who voted for the bill.  I favored the bill and respect him for his vote in the face of ill-informed populist opposition. People think that this situation is no big deal just because the stock market recovered some of it&#039;s losses Tuesday.  The stock market is not the issue.  It&#039;s the global credit freeze-up that grows worse by the day.  Imperfect as the Paulson plan may be, nobody came up with a better idea, other than just let the economy crash, let the runs on banks happen, and let the credit-worthy businesses (i.e., employers) who depend on short-term borrowing to cover payroll, stocking up on inventory in advance of sales etc. go belly-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McNerney is one of the few Congressmen of either party in a competitive district who voted for the bill.  I favored the bill and respect him for his vote in the face of ill-informed populist opposition. People think that this situation is no big deal just because the stock market recovered some of it&#8217;s losses Tuesday.  The stock market is not the issue.  It&#8217;s the global credit freeze-up that grows worse by the day.  Imperfect as the Paulson plan may be, nobody came up with a better idea, other than just let the economy crash, let the runs on banks happen, and let the credit-worthy businesses (i.e., employers) who depend on short-term borrowing to cover payroll, stocking up on inventory in advance of sales etc. go belly-up.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter, GOP Livermore City-Chair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter, GOP Livermore City-Chair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you RR, but I think that interest extends beyond Congressional District 10!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you RR, but I think that interest extends beyond Congressional District 10!</p>
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