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		<title>By: arianna howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>arianna howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will never   never   never again vote dem    not ever</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will never   never   never again vote dem    not ever</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A for-profit outfit grabbing a cut from the public till? I thought there was a budget crisis? Freebies to well-connected profit-making outfits probably linked in some way to the politicians proposing this cannot be afforded. In fact, most places would consider this to be corruption. These outfits giving money to the politicians, skimming a profit as a result of these decisions, then giving the politicians another cut.

I see there are some who think that it&#039;s justice for these executives to take this cut if it means that public employees are fired... I guess they like to destroy the middle class. Ayn Rand, what evil you have unleashed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A for-profit outfit grabbing a cut from the public till? I thought there was a budget crisis? Freebies to well-connected profit-making outfits probably linked in some way to the politicians proposing this cannot be afforded. In fact, most places would consider this to be corruption. These outfits giving money to the politicians, skimming a profit as a result of these decisions, then giving the politicians another cut.</p>
<p>I see there are some who think that it&#8217;s justice for these executives to take this cut if it means that public employees are fired&#8230; I guess they like to destroy the middle class. Ayn Rand, what evil you have unleashed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Political</title>
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		<dc:creator>Political</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, The main problem will be the Loss of public employee jobs.</description>
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		<title>By: Ava Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ava Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A summary I wrote back in 2004 when there was talk about privatizing eligibility determinations.

The push for privatization is not entirely new. Some government services have been contracted as early as the 1930s. However, beginning with the Reagan era the trend toward privatization became greater. Business wanted a piece of the pie. When welfare reform passed in 1996 some previous restrictions that prohibited states from contracting out initial welfare and eligibility determination functions were no longer valid. The latest trend has been towards allowing contracts to for profits, including corporations. In the United States, Texas and Wisconsin are the states that have contracted out services more than others. Most of the services that have been contracted out are for computer support, child support collections, prison administration and job services for WtW participants.  However, some large corporations have won contracts for other types of service delivery.

Stated Reasons for Privatization
•	Reasons given for privatization are to:
•	Reduce costs
•	Improve customer satisfaction and quality of services
•	Increase efficiency
•	Meet demands that are beyond the capacity of the government
•	Provide flexibility in staffing

Other reasons given include increasing competition (to drive down costs).

Covert Reasons for Privatization
Corporations and businesses are actively searching to expand into areas that have traditionally been held by government employees; for example, eligibility determinations for public assistance programs. According to the Urban.org study, one of the ideologies behind privatization is that “less government is better.” Businesses and corporations look at contracting service delivery as a way to tap into new markets to increase corporate profits.

Opposition to Privatization
The main opposition is not aimed at non-profits, but rather at private business, and for profit entities. The main arguments include:
•	Loss of public employee jobs
•	Loss of control by government of public funds and lack of fiscal accountability to taxpayers
•	Decreases participation of citizens in government
•	Threatens confidentiality
•	Tendency to focus on easy to serve clientele I order to maximize profits and reduce costs, meaning hard to serve or disadvantaged may suffer
•	Cost savings will go to stockholders not taxpayers
•	Greater chances of service interruption
•	Potential for corruption
•	Health and welfare public services are more sensitive and life threatening than contracting out garbage service, road construction, or other services, and should not be administered by companies whose focus is on corporate profit vs. public service (conflict of interest)

One of the most important issues is that even though services may be privatized, local government is ultimately responsible for outcomes, and must monitor, track and provide reports to State or Federal government agencies. This means that highly trained and competent staff must carefully manage these contracts. Control over services may be lost even though accountability is not.

The Jury is Still Out on Results
So far, there are mixed results on whether privatization outperforms public delivery of services. I could not find any research showing definitively that privatizing delivery of public services generally reaps better results. There was one study done on three prisons where two were privatized and one was left public that indicated some improvements with privatization in some areas. However, they had problems in other areas that public administration did not. And in Maryland, when public employees were given the tools needed to improve they actually outperformed some public vendors on child support collection.

Results are Not Always as Advertised
According to an audit done In Ontario, Andersen Consulting gave an estimate of $50-70 million, which more than doubled to $180 million. In addition, they failed to provide replacement technology needed to administer the program within timeframes. In some cases, project managers were paid $575 an hour, and wages increased by 63%. This was not an isolated incident. Reports are cited that show that Anderson Consulting had overruns and failures in other jurisdictions such as Texas and New Brunswick, where they did not meet their contractual obligations. Should we take these kinds of risks?

Jobs Threatened
In areas where privatization has occurred some employees in public service were hired in the private sector. However, in some cases, even if the wages were slightly higher, the benefits were less. The studies do not state how much less. Since the majority of benefits are medical benefits, and we know that the cost of medical benefits is very expensive and rising, a decrease in benefits can negatively impact middle-income families. In our County and many others, we are seeing the middle class shrink, and the percentage of both rich and poor grow. This trend is expected to continue. To make matters worse, if for profit companies are allowed to bid for large contracts to provide services the result will be shift of money from middle class wage earners to corporate stockholders.

Privatization-Why We Should Wait?
Privatization has not shown to save taxpayers any money as of yet. Until businesses can prove that privatization of public services is successful in that it reduces costs to taxpayers, is able to provide the necessary government reports timely, and provide quality service to the public, we should be very cautious about any efforts to privatize delivery of public services.

Public Employees Can Increase Productivity
Studies show that in Cuyahoga, San Mateo, Washington County, and the State of Ohio, public employees can improve performance through partnerships, collaboration, automation, and training. If government officials can see that public employees are providing quality, cost-effective services there will be no need to look to privatization in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A summary I wrote back in 2004 when there was talk about privatizing eligibility determinations.</p>
<p>The push for privatization is not entirely new. Some government services have been contracted as early as the 1930s. However, beginning with the Reagan era the trend toward privatization became greater. Business wanted a piece of the pie. When welfare reform passed in 1996 some previous restrictions that prohibited states from contracting out initial welfare and eligibility determination functions were no longer valid. The latest trend has been towards allowing contracts to for profits, including corporations. In the United States, Texas and Wisconsin are the states that have contracted out services more than others. Most of the services that have been contracted out are for computer support, child support collections, prison administration and job services for WtW participants.  However, some large corporations have won contracts for other types of service delivery.</p>
<p>Stated Reasons for Privatization<br />
•	Reasons given for privatization are to:<br />
•	Reduce costs<br />
•	Improve customer satisfaction and quality of services<br />
•	Increase efficiency<br />
•	Meet demands that are beyond the capacity of the government<br />
•	Provide flexibility in staffing</p>
<p>Other reasons given include increasing competition (to drive down costs).</p>
<p>Covert Reasons for Privatization<br />
Corporations and businesses are actively searching to expand into areas that have traditionally been held by government employees; for example, eligibility determinations for public assistance programs. According to the Urban.org study, one of the ideologies behind privatization is that “less government is better.” Businesses and corporations look at contracting service delivery as a way to tap into new markets to increase corporate profits.</p>
<p>Opposition to Privatization<br />
The main opposition is not aimed at non-profits, but rather at private business, and for profit entities. The main arguments include:<br />
•	Loss of public employee jobs<br />
•	Loss of control by government of public funds and lack of fiscal accountability to taxpayers<br />
•	Decreases participation of citizens in government<br />
•	Threatens confidentiality<br />
•	Tendency to focus on easy to serve clientele I order to maximize profits and reduce costs, meaning hard to serve or disadvantaged may suffer<br />
•	Cost savings will go to stockholders not taxpayers<br />
•	Greater chances of service interruption<br />
•	Potential for corruption<br />
•	Health and welfare public services are more sensitive and life threatening than contracting out garbage service, road construction, or other services, and should not be administered by companies whose focus is on corporate profit vs. public service (conflict of interest)</p>
<p>One of the most important issues is that even though services may be privatized, local government is ultimately responsible for outcomes, and must monitor, track and provide reports to State or Federal government agencies. This means that highly trained and competent staff must carefully manage these contracts. Control over services may be lost even though accountability is not.</p>
<p>The Jury is Still Out on Results<br />
So far, there are mixed results on whether privatization outperforms public delivery of services. I could not find any research showing definitively that privatizing delivery of public services generally reaps better results. There was one study done on three prisons where two were privatized and one was left public that indicated some improvements with privatization in some areas. However, they had problems in other areas that public administration did not. And in Maryland, when public employees were given the tools needed to improve they actually outperformed some public vendors on child support collection.</p>
<p>Results are Not Always as Advertised<br />
According to an audit done In Ontario, Andersen Consulting gave an estimate of $50-70 million, which more than doubled to $180 million. In addition, they failed to provide replacement technology needed to administer the program within timeframes. In some cases, project managers were paid $575 an hour, and wages increased by 63%. This was not an isolated incident. Reports are cited that show that Anderson Consulting had overruns and failures in other jurisdictions such as Texas and New Brunswick, where they did not meet their contractual obligations. Should we take these kinds of risks?</p>
<p>Jobs Threatened<br />
In areas where privatization has occurred some employees in public service were hired in the private sector. However, in some cases, even if the wages were slightly higher, the benefits were less. The studies do not state how much less. Since the majority of benefits are medical benefits, and we know that the cost of medical benefits is very expensive and rising, a decrease in benefits can negatively impact middle-income families. In our County and many others, we are seeing the middle class shrink, and the percentage of both rich and poor grow. This trend is expected to continue. To make matters worse, if for profit companies are allowed to bid for large contracts to provide services the result will be shift of money from middle class wage earners to corporate stockholders.</p>
<p>Privatization-Why We Should Wait?<br />
Privatization has not shown to save taxpayers any money as of yet. Until businesses can prove that privatization of public services is successful in that it reduces costs to taxpayers, is able to provide the necessary government reports timely, and provide quality service to the public, we should be very cautious about any efforts to privatize delivery of public services.</p>
<p>Public Employees Can Increase Productivity<br />
Studies show that in Cuyahoga, San Mateo, Washington County, and the State of Ohio, public employees can improve performance through partnerships, collaboration, automation, and training. If government officials can see that public employees are providing quality, cost-effective services there will be no need to look to privatization in the future.</p>
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