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		<title>By: BGR</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/07/28/concord-blog-targets-local-gop-with-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3893</link>
		<dc:creator>BGR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CommonTater et al

no one has to register at Halfway To Concord

to view or dowload the file

the PDF file lives at Scribd and us downloadable or printable from there just click thru no registration required

it is better for the 1.5 mb file To be stored off site as scribd provides embed info

enjoy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CommonTater et al</p>
<p>no one has to register at Halfway To Concord</p>
<p>to view or dowload the file</p>
<p>the PDF file lives at Scribd and us downloadable or printable from there just click thru no registration required</p>
<p>it is better for the 1.5 mb file To be stored off site as scribd provides embed info</p>
<p>enjoy</p>
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		<title>By: Common Tater</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/07/28/concord-blog-targets-local-gop-with-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3891</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Tater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link to the petition.


Cogito, ergo spud.

(I think, therefore I yam.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to the petition.</p>
<p>Cogito, ergo spud.</p>
<p>(I think, therefore I yam.)</p>
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		<title>By: RR, Uninvited Columnist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR, Uninvited Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the CC GOP had more guys like Ken, it would go the way of the Whigs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the CC GOP had more guys like Ken, it would go the way of the Whigs.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/07/28/concord-blog-targets-local-gop-with-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3890</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only one thing can be said about this thread:

Res ipsa loquitur]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only one thing can be said about this thread:</p>
<p>Res ipsa loquitur</p>
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		<title>By: Arne Simonsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arne Simonsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, Ken, where to start?

Unlike you, I was elected to public office; the Antioch City Council twice.

I was elected President of the East Bay Division of the League of California Cities.

I was appointed by the President of the League of California Cities to Chair their Revenue &amp; Taxation Policy Committee.

I was elected to Chair the California Delta Protection Commission.

I was elected twice to the Contra Costa Republican Party for District 5.

Need I go on?

In other words, if I didn&#039;t know Roberts Rules of Order, how to run a meeting, and work with individuals with whom I may disagree, I would never have held those position and we would have never achieved any success.

My question is: why did you run for the CCRP? Was it to help raise funds? Was it to help at the phone banks? Was it to walk door to door for our candidates? Was it to volunteer for one of our fundraising committees?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Ken, where to start?</p>
<p>Unlike you, I was elected to public office; the Antioch City Council twice.</p>
<p>I was elected President of the East Bay Division of the League of California Cities.</p>
<p>I was appointed by the President of the League of California Cities to Chair their Revenue &amp; Taxation Policy Committee.</p>
<p>I was elected to Chair the California Delta Protection Commission.</p>
<p>I was elected twice to the Contra Costa Republican Party for District 5.</p>
<p>Need I go on?</p>
<p>In other words, if I didn&#8217;t know Roberts Rules of Order, how to run a meeting, and work with individuals with whom I may disagree, I would never have held those position and we would have never achieved any success.</p>
<p>My question is: why did you run for the CCRP? Was it to help raise funds? Was it to help at the phone banks? Was it to walk door to door for our candidates? Was it to volunteer for one of our fundraising committees?</p>
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		<title>By: Walter, Alameda County GOP Vice Chairman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter, Alameda County GOP Vice Chairman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(once again, speaking as an individual)

Hats off to Mr. Hambrick. While I have never met you sir, I do look forward to the day that I get that chance. You seem to be a straight-up, common sense kinda guy... and I like that.

The GOP could use more people like you! Keep up the good work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(once again, speaking as an individual)</p>
<p>Hats off to Mr. Hambrick. While I have never met you sir, I do look forward to the day that I get that chance. You seem to be a straight-up, common sense kinda guy&#8230; and I like that.</p>
<p>The GOP could use more people like you! Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hambrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Hambrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to respond to Arne Simonsen since he is so far out in left field without a glove.  What does Ron Paul have to do with the problems the CCRP has today?

I am one of those who is unhappy with the leadership choosing to use the bylaws only in a way that fits theie desires, not following what the bylaws require, hiding financial information etc.  You can&#039;t classify me as a Ron Paul guy (and, again, what does Ron Paul have to do with this?)

There are many others unhappy with the Committee and its operation.  Most are not what you can call Ron Paul people.  I still don&#039;t know why Ron Paul is such an explosive name to some of you.

Yes, I took the problem to the GOP Credentials Committee, along with Wendy Lack (not a Ron Pauler either) and got short shrift.  They wouldn&#039;t even read the package of material we put together to prove our case.  And they wouldn&#039;t accept it in advance.

And we got a whole 15-20 minutes.  The decision centered on the claim by Poulos, et al, that they had a Certified Parliamentarian on their side and we didn&#039;t.  Turns out their parliamentarian isn&#039;t certified at all.

Boy are you ever paranoid, Arne, suggesting people were planted by the other party.  How ridiculous you look.  Maybe you don&#039;t realized how the process works.  Let me explain it.  We were elected by Republicans, not appointed like Poulos and Linn.  Maybe they were planted by Del Beccarro (they were).

I am truly disappointed with you Mr. Simonsen.  You ought to know better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to respond to Arne Simonsen since he is so far out in left field without a glove.  What does Ron Paul have to do with the problems the CCRP has today?</p>
<p>I am one of those who is unhappy with the leadership choosing to use the bylaws only in a way that fits theie desires, not following what the bylaws require, hiding financial information etc.  You can&#8217;t classify me as a Ron Paul guy (and, again, what does Ron Paul have to do with this?)</p>
<p>There are many others unhappy with the Committee and its operation.  Most are not what you can call Ron Paul people.  I still don&#8217;t know why Ron Paul is such an explosive name to some of you.</p>
<p>Yes, I took the problem to the GOP Credentials Committee, along with Wendy Lack (not a Ron Pauler either) and got short shrift.  They wouldn&#8217;t even read the package of material we put together to prove our case.  And they wouldn&#8217;t accept it in advance.</p>
<p>And we got a whole 15-20 minutes.  The decision centered on the claim by Poulos, et al, that they had a Certified Parliamentarian on their side and we didn&#8217;t.  Turns out their parliamentarian isn&#8217;t certified at all.</p>
<p>Boy are you ever paranoid, Arne, suggesting people were planted by the other party.  How ridiculous you look.  Maybe you don&#8217;t realized how the process works.  Let me explain it.  We were elected by Republicans, not appointed like Poulos and Linn.  Maybe they were planted by Del Beccarro (they were).</p>
<p>I am truly disappointed with you Mr. Simonsen.  You ought to know better.</p>
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		<title>By: BJD</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/07/28/concord-blog-targets-local-gop-with-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-3887</link>
		<dc:creator>BJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um, there is one &quot;Running&quot;, but yes, five others in the race.

Can you find the fundraising totals for the five besides Mr. Harmer?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, there is one &#8220;Running&#8221;, but yes, five others in the race.</p>
<p>Can you find the fundraising totals for the five besides Mr. Harmer?</p>
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		<title>By: PDF for Common Tater</title>
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		<dc:creator>PDF for Common Tater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ted Hudacko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Hudacko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arne, your statement is not logical and is a red herring.  Even if Bill Gram-Reefer&#039;s petition were directed to the wrong authorities, that would have no bearing whatsoever on the validity of the underlying assertions.

The FPPC is not responsible for election fraud or violations of the Elections Code:
  http://www.fppc.ca.gov/index.html?id=42

The FEC has jurisdiction over federal campaign finance law, not states&#039; elections or govt. codes:
  http://www.fec.gov/em/em.shtml

Bill Gram-Reefer&#039;s Petition concerns violations of California Elections Code and Government Code.  Readers can decide for themselves if the Secretary of State Election Fraud or the DA&#039;s Govt. Corruption do indeed handle these types of complaints:

  http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_fraud.htm
  http://www.co.contra-costa.ca.us/index.aspx?NID=939

Arne, there are six GOP candidates running in the CD-10 race, not one.  This isn&#039;t the Soviet Politburo or a banana republic, at least not yet, if enough stand on their hind legs and demand the rule of law.  Ensuring a level playing field for all of our candidates will do more to grow the party and build a big tent in the long run than brokered back room deals.  Concoct all the conspiracy theories you want, but it&#039;s the CCRP leadership and their enablers who are hurting the party most.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arne, your statement is not logical and is a red herring.  Even if Bill Gram-Reefer&#8217;s petition were directed to the wrong authorities, that would have no bearing whatsoever on the validity of the underlying assertions.</p>
<p>The FPPC is not responsible for election fraud or violations of the Elections Code:<br />
  <a href="http://www.fppc.ca.gov/index.html?id=42" rel="nofollow">http://www.fppc.ca.gov/index.html?id=42</a></p>
<p>The FEC has jurisdiction over federal campaign finance law, not states&#8217; elections or govt. codes:<br />
  <a href="http://www.fec.gov/em/em.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.fec.gov/em/em.shtml</a></p>
<p>Bill Gram-Reefer&#8217;s Petition concerns violations of California Elections Code and Government Code.  Readers can decide for themselves if the Secretary of State Election Fraud or the DA&#8217;s Govt. Corruption do indeed handle these types of complaints:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_fraud.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_fraud.htm</a><br />
  <a href="http://www.co.contra-costa.ca.us/index.aspx?NID=939" rel="nofollow">http://www.co.contra-costa.ca.us/index.aspx?NID=939</a></p>
<p>Arne, there are six GOP candidates running in the CD-10 race, not one.  This isn&#8217;t the Soviet Politburo or a banana republic, at least not yet, if enough stand on their hind legs and demand the rule of law.  Ensuring a level playing field for all of our candidates will do more to grow the party and build a big tent in the long run than brokered back room deals.  Concoct all the conspiracy theories you want, but it&#8217;s the CCRP leadership and their enablers who are hurting the party most.</p>
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