Comments on: Obama’s speech to the schoolkids

By: EchoFool

EchoFool — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:37:35 +0000

Truly brilliant!

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By: Elwood

Elwood — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:29:52 +0000

Dream on, EchoFool!

Teachers in Catholic schools are now largely lay men and women.

But I could probably arrange for some special treatment for you, if that’s what turns you on.

By: Elwood

Elwood — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:26:29 +0000

Hello, DD, you OK?

Both those speeches were 20 or more years ago. Give me a moment to dig into the evidence locker. Would a signed affidavit from Bush 41 suffice for you? Jeez! As to the activities of Payton and Wilson, you should check with them. They don’t keep me abreast of all their activities.

I’m glad you’re so proud of CA public schools. It’s the exception that proves the rule they say.

By: EchoFool

EchoFool — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:18:59 +0000

I much prefer pedophilia catholic schools over public ones!

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By: DanvilleDemocrat

DanvilleDemocrat — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:01:05 +0000

I did read Allen Payton’s post, and he’s wrong on the both accounts that neither Reagan nor Bush gave such speeches. Both did, and both arguably contained much more partisan-mongering than anything Obama said. Elwood, if you disapprove of those speeches by Reagan and Bush, then where’s the evidence of you speaking up at the time? Or a ruckus being raised by the likes of Allen Payton or Warren Wilson? None exists, because there were no objections when a Republican was president.

As a proud product of California public schools (including for graduate school), it doesn’t surprise me that you think they’re so awful.

By: Elwood

Elwood — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:14:31 +0000

Perhaps you should read Allen Payton’s post, DD.

It’s not the content of Obama’s sermon so much as it is the thing in itself. The Obamassiah should not be in the schools. If it makes you feel any better, I don’t think it was right for Reagan or Bush 41 to make political pitches to schoolkids either.

Don’t worry about my grandkids, DD. They’re receiving a much better education than they ever would in our godawful public schools.

By: DanvilleDemocrat

DanvilleDemocrat — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:39:01 +0000

Indoctrination: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-in-a-National-Address-to-Americas-Schoolchildren/

I feel for Warren Wilson’s kids and Elwood’s grandchildren. To be encouraged to shroud one’s self in willful ignorance is not education at all.

If you want to see an actual political message/indoctrination being inserted into the K-12 curriculum, check this out: http://www.dailykostv.com/w/002107/

(Earlier post contained incorrect link.)

By: ted ford

ted ford — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:34:08 +0000

when I was a kid growing up near Boston in the 50′s there was TV show for kids at noon hosted by ‘Big Brother’ Bob Emery. We all ate our PB&J’s watching this show. At one point Bob would turn to a wall photo of President Eisenhower and raise a toast of a glass of milk to the President while a recording of “Hail to the Chief” was played. I think every grade school kid in the Boston area would stand up in front of their TV set in respect for the President. We didn’t realize it was such seditious stuff.

By: Allen Payton

Allen Payton — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:43:51 +0000

Josh, it’s not the content of the speech, it’s the fact the students are required to listen to the President of the United States give it and the associated “lesson plans” that have people upset.
I didn’t like it when Reagan or Bush gave a speech to students across the country, either.
When the POTUS gives a nationally televised speech or press conference we can choose to watch or not. Unfortunately, the students don’t have that choice.
It’s also the top-down approach of this administration and so many before it, instead of the bottoms up, local control where parents – who are the primary educators in a child’s life, not the state – can have the greatest input, specifically to their school board members, their kids’ teachers and administrators.
Those folks are merely our agents hired to help educate our children.
Any nation-wide speech by a POTUS to school children which they are required to watch smacks of “1984″ and Soviet/Chinese Communist-style indoctrination.
Sure Obama’s speech may be innocuous now, but again the content is not the real issue of concern.

By: Elwood

Elwood — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:40:32 +0000

Oh, and medical care. Did I mention medical care?

We have to wait until Wednesday for the chosen one to tell us how he’s going to solve that little problem.

I can hardly wait!