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	<title>Comments on: Proposed ballot measure would eliminate divorce</title>
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		<title>By: Gayle DeForest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle DeForest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &quot;Truthclubber&quot;:  I love your idea of an initiative to eliminate the initiative process in California!

BTW, it&#039;s &quot;wreak havoc,&quot; not &quot;reek havoc.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;Truthclubber&#8221;:  I love your idea of an initiative to eliminate the initiative process in California!</p>
<p>BTW, it&#8217;s &#8220;wreak havoc,&#8221; not &#8220;reek havoc.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing destroys the sanctity of marriage like divorce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing destroys the sanctity of marriage like divorce.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gram-Reefer</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/10/23/proposed-ballot-measure-would-eliminate-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-9163</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gram-Reefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Truthclubber, John W., and WL

It&#039;s probably backed by Nevada Divorce Attys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Truthclubber, John W., and WL</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably backed by Nevada Divorce Attys</p>
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		<title>By: John W.</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/10/23/proposed-ballot-measure-would-eliminate-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-9164</link>
		<dc:creator>John W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do we get a &quot;divorce&quot; from all the dumb and destructive initiatives that are currently on the books -- too easy to pass and virtually impossible to reverse, even though many would not pass if proposed today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we get a &#8220;divorce&#8221; from all the dumb and destructive initiatives that are currently on the books &#8212; too easy to pass and virtually impossible to reverse, even though many would not pass if proposed today?</p>
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		<title>By: WL</title>
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		<dc:creator>WL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a big deal; golddigger wives would simply go to Nevada to get a divorce if California voters banned divorce here.  A better proposal would be to require that the innocent spouse be reimbursed by the spouse at fault for the divorce - i.e. guilty of adultery, physical abuse, or drug and alcohol abuse.  Currently, the innocent are punished with alimony and loss of property when they have done nothing wrong and the breaching party gets a windfall.  No fault divorce should be stopped, and the new initiative is a small step in that direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a big deal; golddigger wives would simply go to Nevada to get a divorce if California voters banned divorce here.  A better proposal would be to require that the innocent spouse be reimbursed by the spouse at fault for the divorce &#8211; i.e. guilty of adultery, physical abuse, or drug and alcohol abuse.  Currently, the innocent are punished with alimony and loss of property when they have done nothing wrong and the breaching party gets a windfall.  No fault divorce should be stopped, and the new initiative is a small step in that direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh noooo. Straight people might have to consider what it feels like for a fleeting moment what it would be like if someone took away their legal rights because of someone else&#039;s fanatical religious beliefs. No, must...look away... from mirror. Must... go back.... to denial. Must go back to scapegoating other people for whats wrong with society. It couldn&#039;t be US &quot;normal&quot; people that are responsible for the breakdown of the American family. Oh no... Its the gays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh noooo. Straight people might have to consider what it feels like for a fleeting moment what it would be like if someone took away their legal rights because of someone else&#8217;s fanatical religious beliefs. No, must&#8230;look away&#8230; from mirror. Must&#8230; go back&#8230;. to denial. Must go back to scapegoating other people for whats wrong with society. It couldn&#8217;t be US &#8220;normal&#8221; people that are responsible for the breakdown of the American family. Oh no&#8230; Its the gays.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/10/23/proposed-ballot-measure-would-eliminate-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-9168</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: steve weir</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve weir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 03:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that this is a spoof.  It still takes over 600,000 valid signatures to qualify a Constitutional Amendment for the ballot.  After all, it only takes $200 to get the Summary and Title. But, the proponent must circulate the petition and secure the minimum required to place it on the ballot.

I&#039;ll bet that this is in response to Proposition 8 on the November, 2008 ballot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that this is a spoof.  It still takes over 600,000 valid signatures to qualify a Constitutional Amendment for the ballot.  After all, it only takes $200 to get the Summary and Title. But, the proponent must circulate the petition and secure the minimum required to place it on the ballot.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet that this is in response to Proposition 8 on the November, 2008 ballot.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthclubber</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/10/23/proposed-ballot-measure-would-eliminate-divorce/comment-page-1/#comment-9162</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthclubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is proof positive that the initiative process as we know it in California is so dysfunctionally broken that it cannot be repaired.  $200 bucks to reek havoc on the ability of couples to even peacefully divorce if for whatever reason they got married for the wrong reasons?  I am going to find someone who will shell out 200 clams for the filing fee so that I can write an initiative to &quot;eliminate the initiative process in California&quot; -- look at the budgetary savings THAT will yield!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is proof positive that the initiative process as we know it in California is so dysfunctionally broken that it cannot be repaired.  $200 bucks to reek havoc on the ability of couples to even peacefully divorce if for whatever reason they got married for the wrong reasons?  I am going to find someone who will shell out 200 clams for the filing fee so that I can write an initiative to &#8220;eliminate the initiative process in California&#8221; &#8212; look at the budgetary savings THAT will yield!</p>
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