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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: #8

Sounds like a large serving of sour grapes to me.</description>
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<p>Sounds like a large serving of sour grapes to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter, Livermore</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/11/12/rep-garamendi-holds-debut-town-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-8348</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter, Livermore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elwood, We are not questioning the election of Garamendi. We are discussing his actions as an elected Representative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elwood, We are not questioning the election of Garamendi. We are discussing his actions as an elected Representative.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/11/12/rep-garamendi-holds-debut-town-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-8347</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen:

This election is over.  Garamendi won.  Get used to it.

You can have another shot at him next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen:</p>
<p>This election is over.  Garamendi won.  Get used to it.</p>
<p>You can have another shot at him next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter, Livermore</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/11/12/rep-garamendi-holds-debut-town-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-8346</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter, Livermore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,

I don&#039;t recall Garamedi saying anything about &quot;reading the vast majority of the 2,000-page bill&quot; although, I do remember him saying that he read a summary of the important parts of the bill.

If you have audio or video of the exchange that suggests that I&#039;m mistaken, I will stand corrected, however until then, I stand by my words!

Regardless of if Garamendi read &quot;a summary,&quot; or &quot;all of the summaries of key sections,&quot; or &quot;the summaries of its key provisions,&quot; or &quot;a vast majority of the bill&quot; itself... that only means one thing to me!

GARAMENDI DIDN&#039;T READ THE ENTIRE BILL THAT HE VOTED ON!

This should be unacceptable to you as an American, as a voter, as a member of the Press, and even as a supporter of Garamendi! Why are you so willing to let him off the hook on something like this?

The Congressional &quot;Summary&quot; that is made available to Members&#039; of Congress is a 4-page print-out! You can find it here: http://thomas.loc.gov/  (Search &quot;HR 3962&quot; and click on &quot;CRS Summary&quot;)

Garamendi staffers&#039; actually had printed copies of that summary located at the table that you were sitting at during the meeting. Did you by any chance take a look at it? If you did, you&#039;d agree with me that someone could not possibly have an in-depth understanding of the entire bill only having read this 4-page summary.

Just because Garamendi has written single-payer, health care legislation (in the past) and was California’s insurance commissioner doesn&#039;t mean that he need not read the entire bill that he is voting on! That&#039;s what&#039;s absurd Lisa!

The 35-year veteran of public office should know better and be held to a higher standard when it comes to accountability in this regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall Garamedi saying anything about &#8220;reading the vast majority of the 2,000-page bill&#8221; although, I do remember him saying that he read a summary of the important parts of the bill.</p>
<p>If you have audio or video of the exchange that suggests that I&#8217;m mistaken, I will stand corrected, however until then, I stand by my words!</p>
<p>Regardless of if Garamendi read &#8220;a summary,&#8221; or &#8220;all of the summaries of key sections,&#8221; or &#8220;the summaries of its key provisions,&#8221; or &#8220;a vast majority of the bill&#8221; itself&#8230; that only means one thing to me!</p>
<p>GARAMENDI DIDN&#8217;T READ THE ENTIRE BILL THAT HE VOTED ON!</p>
<p>This should be unacceptable to you as an American, as a voter, as a member of the Press, and even as a supporter of Garamendi! Why are you so willing to let him off the hook on something like this?</p>
<p>The Congressional &#8220;Summary&#8221; that is made available to Members&#8217; of Congress is a 4-page print-out! You can find it here: <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://thomas.loc.gov/</a>  (Search &#8220;HR 3962&#8243; and click on &#8220;CRS Summary&#8221;)</p>
<p>Garamendi staffers&#8217; actually had printed copies of that summary located at the table that you were sitting at during the meeting. Did you by any chance take a look at it? If you did, you&#8217;d agree with me that someone could not possibly have an in-depth understanding of the entire bill only having read this 4-page summary.</p>
<p>Just because Garamendi has written single-payer, health care legislation (in the past) and was California’s insurance commissioner doesn&#8217;t mean that he need not read the entire bill that he is voting on! That&#8217;s what&#8217;s absurd Lisa!</p>
<p>The 35-year veteran of public office should know better and be held to a higher standard when it comes to accountability in this regard.</p>
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		<title>By: ken88</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve talked to people, are you for health care bill, &quot; no&quot;. Do you think the bail outs are working, &quot;no&#039;. Then why would you vote for Garamendi?
&quot;Because I always vote Democrated&quot;, I kid you not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve talked to people, are you for health care bill, &#8221; no&#8221;. Do you think the bail outs are working, &#8220;no&#8217;. Then why would you vote for Garamendi?<br />
&#8220;Because I always vote Democrated&#8221;, I kid you not.</p>
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		<title>By: David LaTour</title>
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		<dc:creator>David LaTour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if Garamendi read the &quot;vast majority,&quot; as you claim he said, Lisa, he still voted without reading the WHOLE bill. At 2000 pages long, even if he read 90% there were 200 pages he didn&#039;t read. The Patriot Act was about 300 pages long. That&#039;s scary.

A good bill is under 10 pages long and too the point. Any bill that&#039;s hundreds or thousands of pages long should get a No vote out of principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if Garamendi read the &#8220;vast majority,&#8221; as you claim he said, Lisa, he still voted without reading the WHOLE bill. At 2000 pages long, even if he read 90% there were 200 pages he didn&#8217;t read. The Patriot Act was about 300 pages long. That&#8217;s scary.</p>
<p>A good bill is under 10 pages long and too the point. Any bill that&#8217;s hundreds or thousands of pages long should get a No vote out of principle.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Vorderbrueggen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Vorderbrueggen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter,

That&#039;s not true.

I heard what Garamendi said in response to your question about whether he read the bill. He said that he had read the vast majority of the 2,000-page bill including the summaries of its key provisions.

Whatever your opinion about his vote in favor of the bill, suggesting that he was uninformed about its contents is absurd. He has written single-payer, healthcare legislation and was California&#039;s insurance commissioner for eight years. Other lawmakers may well have voted without knowing the details but I doubt Garamendi was one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not true.</p>
<p>I heard what Garamendi said in response to your question about whether he read the bill. He said that he had read the vast majority of the 2,000-page bill including the summaries of its key provisions.</p>
<p>Whatever your opinion about his vote in favor of the bill, suggesting that he was uninformed about its contents is absurd. He has written single-payer, healthcare legislation and was California&#8217;s insurance commissioner for eight years. Other lawmakers may well have voted without knowing the details but I doubt Garamendi was one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter, Livermore</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/11/12/rep-garamendi-holds-debut-town-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-8342</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter, Livermore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Garamendi failed to read the Health Care Bill! http://bit.ly/2l8qT6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Garamendi failed to read the Health Care Bill! <a href="http://bit.ly/2l8qT6" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2l8qT6</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ulno</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2009/11/12/rep-garamendi-holds-debut-town-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-8341</link>
		<dc:creator>Ulno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rep. Garamendi&#039;s support for the government takeover of individual&#039;s freedom to choose their own healthcare is certainly a demonstration of his lack of support for freedom of choice.  However, his support also shows a lack of realization of what socialism does to this country.  This country has moved from spending 10% of the gross domestic product in 1949 to now over 45% just by the federal government, on a GDP of about $14T.  Add in free healthcare for 30 million illegal aliens, with a CBO estimate of $3T in costs, and the country is facing a complete economic collapse in the next decade.

The federal government reported the budget worse than last October by $20 billion with a deficit of $176.36 billion for the MONTH. That used to be considered a decent deficit target … for an entire YEAR.  This year&#039;s deficit will be larger than all 8 years of George Bush COMBINED.

There is little wonder why gold has gone from under $800 last year to over $1100 now.  The devaluation of the dollar has begun.

Garamendi&#039;s glib comments that are smoothed over by this report won&#039;t paper over a sinking ship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rep. Garamendi&#8217;s support for the government takeover of individual&#8217;s freedom to choose their own healthcare is certainly a demonstration of his lack of support for freedom of choice.  However, his support also shows a lack of realization of what socialism does to this country.  This country has moved from spending 10% of the gross domestic product in 1949 to now over 45% just by the federal government, on a GDP of about $14T.  Add in free healthcare for 30 million illegal aliens, with a CBO estimate of $3T in costs, and the country is facing a complete economic collapse in the next decade.</p>
<p>The federal government reported the budget worse than last October by $20 billion with a deficit of $176.36 billion for the MONTH. That used to be considered a decent deficit target … for an entire YEAR.  This year&#8217;s deficit will be larger than all 8 years of George Bush COMBINED.</p>
<p>There is little wonder why gold has gone from under $800 last year to over $1100 now.  The devaluation of the dollar has begun.</p>
<p>Garamendi&#8217;s glib comments that are smoothed over by this report won&#8217;t paper over a sinking ship.</p>
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