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		<title>By: bbox231</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbox231</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an excellent synopsis of everything that is wrong and dysfunctional in our political system today.

Busy focusing on political and personal traits and characteristics.  

Busy ignoring real issues.

Put that same energy into discussing solutions to  some problems - or, in Elwood&#039;s case maybe think about re-upping and helping out the boys and girls in uniform who will be glad to show you a little respect for anyone who has taken hostile fire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an excellent synopsis of everything that is wrong and dysfunctional in our political system today.</p>
<p>Busy focusing on political and personal traits and characteristics.  </p>
<p>Busy ignoring real issues.</p>
<p>Put that same energy into discussing solutions to  some problems &#8211; or, in Elwood&#8217;s case maybe think about re-upping and helping out the boys and girls in uniform who will be glad to show you a little respect for anyone who has taken hostile fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two good survival tips:

Never look gorillas in the eye.

Never argue with crazy people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two good survival tips:</p>
<p>Never look gorillas in the eye.</p>
<p>Never argue with crazy people.</p>
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		<title>By: RR, Uninvited  Columnist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR, Uninvited  Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fomenting fear, hatred and mistrust, as practiced by Truthie. See #17, et seq.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fomenting fear, hatred and mistrust, as practiced by Truthie. See #17, et seq.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthclubber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthclubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See, fellow liberals?  It works -- call these a-holes what they really are and they completely shut down any efforts to argue on the merits of the argument -- because they know that it&#039;s not the merits that they are counting on, it&#039;s their tactics of spewing fear, hatred and mistrust, just like Frank Luntz has schooled them.

Example?  Re: #26 -- a classic &quot;when you can&#039;t possibly succeed in discrediting the message, try to discredit the messenger&quot; move.

Geez Louise, Hellwad -- did you graduate from Debate 101 just now?

Or sadder still, did you think no one would notice that?

Note to fellow liberals:  This is how you deal with these a-holes who just won&#039;t stop  trying to tear this country apart with their tactics of fomenting fear, hatred and mistrust -- you call them to their face what they are -- fascists.

You see from the above (#26 response) how, as far as their original arguments go, they STFU instantly on the merits rather than continue in light of that label and risk having it (the &quot;f&quot; word) REALLY stick to them as they have nothing but tactics to rely on.

P.S.  Thanks, Hellwad -- I didn&#039;t know that caring for my country AND my democracy was &quot;a problem&quot;.  I think I&#039;ll seek out some professional help at my local polling place today...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, fellow liberals?  It works &#8212; call these a-holes what they really are and they completely shut down any efforts to argue on the merits of the argument &#8212; because they know that it&#8217;s not the merits that they are counting on, it&#8217;s their tactics of spewing fear, hatred and mistrust, just like Frank Luntz has schooled them.</p>
<p>Example?  Re: #26 &#8212; a classic &#8220;when you can&#8217;t possibly succeed in discrediting the message, try to discredit the messenger&#8221; move.</p>
<p>Geez Louise, Hellwad &#8212; did you graduate from Debate 101 just now?</p>
<p>Or sadder still, did you think no one would notice that?</p>
<p>Note to fellow liberals:  This is how you deal with these a-holes who just won&#8217;t stop  trying to tear this country apart with their tactics of fomenting fear, hatred and mistrust &#8212; you call them to their face what they are &#8212; fascists.</p>
<p>You see from the above (#26 response) how, as far as their original arguments go, they STFU instantly on the merits rather than continue in light of that label and risk having it (the &#8220;f&#8221; word) REALLY stick to them as they have nothing but tactics to rely on.</p>
<p>P.S.  Thanks, Hellwad &#8212; I didn&#8217;t know that caring for my country AND my democracy was &#8220;a problem&#8221;.  I think I&#8217;ll seek out some professional help at my local polling place today&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Professional help is available for your problem.

You should seek some, ASAP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional help is available for your problem.</p>
<p>You should seek some, ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthclubber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthclubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 04:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Arr, Arr&quot; wishes we could all get along after we&#039;ve been beaten by fascist LAPD cops bent on squashing any and all resistance (real or otherwise) from (as he and Hellwad would call them) coloreds -- if only dictatorial rule by the nobles were as easy as they would like it to be.

As for Hellwad, well, never let the facts get in the way of a good lie, but I&#039;ll try:

1)  Ronald Reagan was &quot;slightly to the right of Karl Marx.&quot;

2)  Ronald Reagan was not in my mind, nor anyone&#039;s mind, a new American fascist like &quot;Arr, Arr&quot;, &quot;Hellwad&quot;, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O&#039;Reilly, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, or Michelle Bachmann, just to name a few new American fascists.

Note, dear readers, how much (as I predicted) they fight to evade the tag without outright denying it -- because then they would have to deny what fascism is and how their tactics line up so well with same -- such as &quot;don&#039;t call me a rapist as I screw you again and again without permission -- the truth is &#039;you wanted it&#039; or &#039;you deserved it&#039;...my behavior is NOT to be questioned!&quot;

Hellwad (fascist) wishes he (fascist) had an (fascist) orgasm every (fascist) time I use that (fascist) word -- not like he&#039;s gotten any lately (it shows, believe me!) and I&#039;ll bet he even wishes he had an orgasm everytime I do...

Note to fellow liberals:  The next time you are arguing with one of these troglodytes about social policy and they shout &quot;you&#039;re just a f&#039;ing liberal!&quot;, shout back at them &quot;you&#039;re just a f&#039;ing fascist!&quot; -- and then follow that shout with &quot;and don&#039;t hide behind that crap that you&#039;re merely a conservative -- real conservatives (feel free to name some as I have) don&#039;t divide their country with hatred, fear and mistrust the way you and your ilk do!&quot;

Tag them with the &quot;f&quot; word big-time -- as you see from &quot;Arr, Arr&quot; and &quot;Hellwad&quot;&#039;s latest comments, they are scared crapless that they will indeed get tagged that way -- and they know from their tactics that THEY CAN&#039;T ESCAPE THAT TAG.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Arr, Arr&#8221; wishes we could all get along after we&#8217;ve been beaten by fascist LAPD cops bent on squashing any and all resistance (real or otherwise) from (as he and Hellwad would call them) coloreds &#8212; if only dictatorial rule by the nobles were as easy as they would like it to be.</p>
<p>As for Hellwad, well, never let the facts get in the way of a good lie, but I&#8217;ll try:</p>
<p>1)  Ronald Reagan was &#8220;slightly to the right of Karl Marx.&#8221;</p>
<p>2)  Ronald Reagan was not in my mind, nor anyone&#8217;s mind, a new American fascist like &#8220;Arr, Arr&#8221;, &#8220;Hellwad&#8221;, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O&#8217;Reilly, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, or Michelle Bachmann, just to name a few new American fascists.</p>
<p>Note, dear readers, how much (as I predicted) they fight to evade the tag without outright denying it &#8212; because then they would have to deny what fascism is and how their tactics line up so well with same &#8212; such as &#8220;don&#8217;t call me a rapist as I screw you again and again without permission &#8212; the truth is &#8216;you wanted it&#8217; or &#8216;you deserved it&#8217;&#8230;my behavior is NOT to be questioned!&#8221;</p>
<p>Hellwad (fascist) wishes he (fascist) had an (fascist) orgasm every (fascist) time I use that (fascist) word &#8212; not like he&#8217;s gotten any lately (it shows, believe me!) and I&#8217;ll bet he even wishes he had an orgasm everytime I do&#8230;</p>
<p>Note to fellow liberals:  The next time you are arguing with one of these troglodytes about social policy and they shout &#8220;you&#8217;re just a f&#8217;ing liberal!&#8221;, shout back at them &#8220;you&#8217;re just a f&#8217;ing fascist!&#8221; &#8212; and then follow that shout with &#8220;and don&#8217;t hide behind that crap that you&#8217;re merely a conservative &#8212; real conservatives (feel free to name some as I have) don&#8217;t divide their country with hatred, fear and mistrust the way you and your ilk do!&#8221;</p>
<p>Tag them with the &#8220;f&#8221; word big-time &#8212; as you see from &#8220;Arr, Arr&#8221; and &#8220;Hellwad&#8221;&#8216;s latest comments, they are scared crapless that they will indeed get tagged that way &#8212; and they know from their tactics that THEY CAN&#8217;T ESCAPE THAT TAG.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s Truthclubber&#039;s favorite word, applied to anyone slightly to the right of Karl Marx.

I think he has an orgasm every time he uses it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Truthclubber&#8217;s favorite word, applied to anyone slightly to the right of Karl Marx.</p>
<p>I think he has an orgasm every time he uses it.</p>
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		<title>By: RR, Uninvited  Columnist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR, Uninvited  Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why can&#039;t we all just get along?&quot;--Rodney King, L.A. activist

I haven&#039;t seen the word &quot;fascist&quot; so many times in print since the &quot;Daily Worker&quot; was in its heyday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why can&#8217;t we all just get along?&#8221;&#8211;Rodney King, L.A. activist</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the word &#8220;fascist&#8221; so many times in print since the &#8220;Daily Worker&#8221; was in its heyday.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The back and forth over Carly&#039;s comments is just normal politics.  But it was a pretty stupid statement on her part and will haunt her in the general election.  Whether or not one believes mankind is contributing to climate change, the fact of climate change itself is undeniable.  As was pointed out in some of the responses to Carly, the Pentagon and other agencies responsible for long-term national security strategy have long focused on global climate change and its geopolitical and economic implications as one of the major threats to global stability and America&#039;s national security.  And, as Josh pointed out, her statements completely contradict her previous public statements on the matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The back and forth over Carly&#8217;s comments is just normal politics.  But it was a pretty stupid statement on her part and will haunt her in the general election.  Whether or not one believes mankind is contributing to climate change, the fact of climate change itself is undeniable.  As was pointed out in some of the responses to Carly, the Pentagon and other agencies responsible for long-term national security strategy have long focused on global climate change and its geopolitical and economic implications as one of the major threats to global stability and America&#8217;s national security.  And, as Josh pointed out, her statements completely contradict her previous public statements on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anybody who disparages the service of anybody who has served this country honorably for one day in combat, regardless of political affiliation, is a complete lowlife.  These are people who think patriotism is wearing a flagpin and having a &quot;support our troops&quot; bumper sticker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who disparages the service of anybody who has served this country honorably for one day in combat, regardless of political affiliation, is a complete lowlife.  These are people who think patriotism is wearing a flagpin and having a &#8220;support our troops&#8221; bumper sticker.</p>
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