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	<title>Comments on: Moniz tops CA city manager pay list</title>
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		<title>By: Common Sense</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/09/10/moniz-tops-ca-city-manager-pay-list/comment-page-1/#comment-17396</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Strictly speaking it&#039;s not the city of San Ramon&#039;s responsibility to pay for schools and teachers - it&#039;s the state&#039;s and the school district&#039;s.

That said, plenty of cities have chipped in money to school districts to make up shortfalls - and money spent on exorbitant city salaries and pensions isn&#039;t available to help schools.

Just as importantly the schools that San Ramon kids go to are full, there&#039;s no money for new schools, and the city and Dougherty Valley include 4600 units that are already approved but not yet built--which will make the problem worse and increase the calls for new school bonds for new schools, paid for by residents.  

Yet these same city staff want to approve more development with Measure W - by breaking the voter-approved urban growth boundary in the Tassajara Valley and the west side hills, and with redevelopment at North Camino Ramon - another 5500+ housing units, much of it high density, on top of the 4600 already approved.  That&#039;ll just make things worse.

On November 2, please vote NO on Measure W.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strictly speaking it&#8217;s not the city of San Ramon&#8217;s responsibility to pay for schools and teachers &#8211; it&#8217;s the state&#8217;s and the school district&#8217;s.</p>
<p>That said, plenty of cities have chipped in money to school districts to make up shortfalls &#8211; and money spent on exorbitant city salaries and pensions isn&#8217;t available to help schools.</p>
<p>Just as importantly the schools that San Ramon kids go to are full, there&#8217;s no money for new schools, and the city and Dougherty Valley include 4600 units that are already approved but not yet built&#8211;which will make the problem worse and increase the calls for new school bonds for new schools, paid for by residents.  </p>
<p>Yet these same city staff want to approve more development with Measure W &#8211; by breaking the voter-approved urban growth boundary in the Tassajara Valley and the west side hills, and with redevelopment at North Camino Ramon &#8211; another 5500+ housing units, much of it high density, on top of the 4600 already approved.  That&#8217;ll just make things worse.</p>
<p>On November 2, please vote NO on Measure W.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/09/10/moniz-tops-ca-city-manager-pay-list/comment-page-1/#comment-17393</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, my son is a student at Pine Valley Middle School. The school year just started, yet the students at Pine Valley have ALREADY had time off because of the supposed &quot;budgetary constraints.&quot; We were told the students had to stay home from school because they couldn&#039;t afford to pay the teachers. 




Couple that with the ridulous &quot;fees&quot; we had to pay (roughly $760) - everything from a $90 &quot;sports&quot; fee to a &quot;technology&quot; fee, an &quot;art&quot; fee. I thought this was a PUBLIC school? 




Perhaps if they didn&#039;t pay the city manager of San Ramon 3 times the median salary of the citizens who&#039;s taxes pay his wages - they would have the money to pay the teachers. 




This is an abuse of the public trust &amp; the city manager needs to step down, or be forced to resign. 




Public servants are supposed to be just that - PUBLIC SERVANTS. They are NOT supposed to live a more privileged lifestyle than the citizens who pay their salaries!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, my son is a student at Pine Valley Middle School. The school year just started, yet the students at Pine Valley have ALREADY had time off because of the supposed &#8220;budgetary constraints.&#8221; We were told the students had to stay home from school because they couldn&#8217;t afford to pay the teachers. </p>
<p>Couple that with the ridulous &#8220;fees&#8221; we had to pay (roughly $760) &#8211; everything from a $90 &#8220;sports&#8221; fee to a &#8220;technology&#8221; fee, an &#8220;art&#8221; fee. I thought this was a PUBLIC school? </p>
<p>Perhaps if they didn&#8217;t pay the city manager of San Ramon 3 times the median salary of the citizens who&#8217;s taxes pay his wages &#8211; they would have the money to pay the teachers. </p>
<p>This is an abuse of the public trust &amp; the city manager needs to step down, or be forced to resign. </p>
<p>Public servants are supposed to be just that &#8211; PUBLIC SERVANTS. They are NOT supposed to live a more privileged lifestyle than the citizens who pay their salaries!!</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/09/10/moniz-tops-ca-city-manager-pay-list/comment-page-1/#comment-17325</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 02:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading Dan Borenstein&#039;s article today, this really bugs me.  I had no idea that regular, non-safety employees in San Ramon had 2.7% accrual rates.  The article didn&#039;t mention if the employees participate in Social Security.  I&#039;m guessing not.  These defined-benefit plans, to the extent they continue at all, need to be calculated on non-indexed lifetime earnings (not final year or highest three).  That would make them more like 401k&#039;s but with a guaranteed benefit amount.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading Dan Borenstein&#8217;s article today, this really bugs me.  I had no idea that regular, non-safety employees in San Ramon had 2.7% accrual rates.  The article didn&#8217;t mention if the employees participate in Social Security.  I&#8217;m guessing not.  These defined-benefit plans, to the extent they continue at all, need to be calculated on non-indexed lifetime earnings (not final year or highest three).  That would make them more like 401k&#8217;s but with a guaranteed benefit amount.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Tramell</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/09/10/moniz-tops-ca-city-manager-pay-list/comment-page-1/#comment-17272</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tramell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have supported Wilson for many years; however, after watching him defend the outrageous $350K+ salary of the San Ramon City Manager, no more! Buchanan is too liberal for my taste, but I know she would never stand for this Wall Street style corruption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have supported Wilson for many years; however, after watching him defend the outrageous $350K+ salary of the San Ramon City Manager, no more! Buchanan is too liberal for my taste, but I know she would never stand for this Wall Street style corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/09/10/moniz-tops-ca-city-manager-pay-list/comment-page-1/#comment-17215</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 04:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a San Ramon taxpayer, this grabs my attention.  He definitely seems to be an outlier among CA and Bay Area peers, who are very well-paid even with their lower salaries.  I don&#039;t know whether he could have made that much in the private sector had he chosen a different career path.  However, it seems a bit extreme to suggest he couldn&#039;t make $35k.  San Ramon  is one of the better managed cities in CA.  Just trying to be fair here.

Out of curiosity, I checked the city manager salary for my boyhood home of Goodland, Kansas, a farm town of less than 5,000 people, 150 miles from nowhere, where the median income is less than $30k.  I was surprised that it was above $75k.  When you consider the difference in cost of living (median house price there is about $80k) and the comparison in population and job complexity, perhaps the city manager salaries in CA are not that out of line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a San Ramon taxpayer, this grabs my attention.  He definitely seems to be an outlier among CA and Bay Area peers, who are very well-paid even with their lower salaries.  I don&#8217;t know whether he could have made that much in the private sector had he chosen a different career path.  However, it seems a bit extreme to suggest he couldn&#8217;t make $35k.  San Ramon  is one of the better managed cities in CA.  Just trying to be fair here.</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, I checked the city manager salary for my boyhood home of Goodland, Kansas, a farm town of less than 5,000 people, 150 miles from nowhere, where the median income is less than $30k.  I was surprised that it was above $75k.  When you consider the difference in cost of living (median house price there is about $80k) and the comparison in population and job complexity, perhaps the city manager salaries in CA are not that out of line.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Tater</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/09/10/moniz-tops-ca-city-manager-pay-list/comment-page-1/#comment-17214</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Tater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 04:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Old news.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old news.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Buckmaster</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/09/10/moniz-tops-ca-city-manager-pay-list/comment-page-1/#comment-17209</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Buckmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mo&#039; money mo&#039; money mo&#039; money]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mo&#8217; money mo&#8217; money mo&#8217; money</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Buckmaster</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/09/10/moniz-tops-ca-city-manager-pay-list/comment-page-1/#comment-17208</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Buckmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, baby, Yeah! That&#039;s what I&#039;m talking about!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, baby, Yeah! That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talking about!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Richards</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/09/10/moniz-tops-ca-city-manager-pay-list/comment-page-1/#comment-17188</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a joke San Ramon is.  This guy could not make $35,000 in the public sector.
Yeah, I really believe that health care from the gov&#039;t will be cheaper, too.  The gov&#039;t is so good with our money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joke San Ramon is.  This guy could not make $35,000 in the public sector.<br />
Yeah, I really believe that health care from the gov&#8217;t will be cheaper, too.  The gov&#8217;t is so good with our money.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a joke San Ramon is.  This guy could not make $35,000 in the public sector.
Yeah, I really believe that health care from the gov&#039;t will cheaper, too.  The gov&#039;t is so good with our money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joke San Ramon is.  This guy could not make $35,000 in the public sector.<br />
Yeah, I really believe that health care from the gov&#8217;t will cheaper, too.  The gov&#8217;t is so good with our money.</p>
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