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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/09/22/cd11-mcnerney-fires-back-at-harmer/comment-page-1/#comment-18441</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re:  #22

&quot;self-consistent&quot;

What the hell does that mean?

He consistently votes the party line with Nancy and the Ayrab?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  #22</p>
<p>&#8220;self-consistent&#8221;</p>
<p>What the hell does that mean?</p>
<p>He consistently votes the party line with Nancy and the Ayrab?</p>
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		<title>By: Ann jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correction---some PhD&#039;s and MD&#039;s are &quot;just handed out depending on past oppression/race--UC Irvine cranks out MD degrees to people who scored 20% on the MCAT and D&#039;s in organic chemistry while truly qualified non-minority Applicants are rejected!  Libs should be required to have these &quot;outreach&quot; grads care for them! Kanye west&#039;s mom did and so did----um---Michael Jackson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction&#8212;some PhD&#8217;s and MD&#8217;s are &#8220;just handed out depending on past oppression/race&#8211;UC Irvine cranks out MD degrees to people who scored 20% on the MCAT and D&#8217;s in organic chemistry while truly qualified non-minority Applicants are rejected!  Libs should be required to have these &#8220;outreach&#8221; grads care for them! Kanye west&#8217;s mom did and so did&#8212;-um&#8212;Michael Jackson.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary travers</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/09/22/cd11-mcnerney-fires-back-at-harmer/comment-page-1/#comment-18434</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary travers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if mr mcnerny has &quot;remembered&quot; if he stood and applauded president calderone of MEXICO after his speech trashing our country!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if mr mcnerny has &#8220;remembered&#8221; if he stood and applauded president calderone of MEXICO after his speech trashing our country!!</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jerry McNerney is a Democrat, and it is to be expected that he would see fit to vote with Dems rather than Repubs on most issues.  But he does not approach issues from an ideological framework.  It&#039;s just not his nature.  He didn&#039;t even go anywhere near politics until a few years ago.  For better or worse, David Harmer clearly is an ideology-driven movement conservative.  That&#039;s evidenced by his previous involvement with Heritage and Pacific Legal Foundation and the way he talks about issues.  On health care, for example, McNerney will explain his support for health reform in problem-solving pragmatic terms, including his own personal experience with the issue of pre-existing conditions.  David Harmer, on the other hand, will speak more in terms of broad principles -- &quot;the free market,&quot; &quot;socialism&quot; etc.  McNerney&#039;s involvement with veteran&#039;s affairs is, again, a very pragmatic matter.  In the case of the military funding supplement for Afghanistan, McNerney broke ranks with the Bay Area Congressional delegation and voted for the funding, even though he shares the concerns many of us have about the end game in Afghanistan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry McNerney is a Democrat, and it is to be expected that he would see fit to vote with Dems rather than Repubs on most issues.  But he does not approach issues from an ideological framework.  It&#8217;s just not his nature.  He didn&#8217;t even go anywhere near politics until a few years ago.  For better or worse, David Harmer clearly is an ideology-driven movement conservative.  That&#8217;s evidenced by his previous involvement with Heritage and Pacific Legal Foundation and the way he talks about issues.  On health care, for example, McNerney will explain his support for health reform in problem-solving pragmatic terms, including his own personal experience with the issue of pre-existing conditions.  David Harmer, on the other hand, will speak more in terms of broad principles &#8212; &#8220;the free market,&#8221; &#8220;socialism&#8221; etc.  McNerney&#8217;s involvement with veteran&#8217;s affairs is, again, a very pragmatic matter.  In the case of the military funding supplement for Afghanistan, McNerney broke ranks with the Bay Area Congressional delegation and voted for the funding, even though he shares the concerns many of us have about the end game in Afghanistan.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 16:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re:22 &quot;(McNerney is) certainly well to the right of Clinton&quot;

Jerry is well to the left of Bill Clinton according to www.ontheissues.org methodical interpretation of his voting and speeches:

&quot;Jerry is a Populist-Leaning Liberal&quot;, (20% and 80% to the left of center on Social and Economic topics respectively)
www.ontheissues.org/CA/Jerry_McNerney.htm

in contrast, &quot;Bill Clinton is a Moderate Liberal&quot;, (20% and 40% to the left of center on Social and Economic topics respectively)
www.ontheissues.org/Bill_Clinton.htm

So Jerry is twice as far to the left on Economic issues as is Bill Clinton.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re:22 &#8220;(McNerney is) certainly well to the right of Clinton&#8221;</p>
<p>Jerry is well to the left of Bill Clinton according to <a href="http://www.ontheissues.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ontheissues.org</a> methodical interpretation of his voting and speeches:</p>
<p>&#8220;Jerry is a Populist-Leaning Liberal&#8221;, (20% and 80% to the left of center on Social and Economic topics respectively)<br />
<a href="http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Jerry_McNerney.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Jerry_McNerney.htm</a></p>
<p>in contrast, &#8220;Bill Clinton is a Moderate Liberal&#8221;, (20% and 40% to the left of center on Social and Economic topics respectively)<br />
<a href="http://www.ontheissues.org/Bill_Clinton.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ontheissues.org/Bill_Clinton.htm</a></p>
<p>So Jerry is twice as far to the left on Economic issues as is Bill Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Fnord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Fnord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s good to come here and listen to all the intelligent people talking constructively about our government.

It&#039;s funny how many people on the Right go from &#039;throw all the lawyers out of Congress, they&#039;re all scum!&#039; when the lawyers in question are Democrats to &#039;hah, he&#039;s not a lawyer, he&#039;s not qualified to be in Congress&#039; when the lawyer is on the Democrats&#039; side.

It&#039;s called &#039;sticking to your principles&#039;. And one of the principles of the current Republican party is &#039;use any argument to hurt your opponent, whether it makes sense or not&#039;. Self-consistency, and indeed self-examination, is not a problem which these people have in any great degree.

I&#039;ve met Jerry McNerney. He&#039;s smart, he&#039;s self-consistent, and he&#039;s willing to talk to his constituents, and, more importantly, listen to them. For all of you who don&#039;t foam at the mouth when his name comes up simply because it has a &#039;D&#039; next to it, I highly recommend you go to one of his meet-and-greets and bring up your concerns. You might be surprised by how interested he is in them.

Oh, and anyone who thinks McNerney is some kind of radical because he has mostly voted for Obama&#039;s agenda? You&#039;re demonstrating to those of us with still-functioning brains that you can&#039;t be taken seriously, because you know nothing at all about politics. Obama is microscopically to the left of Nixon, and that only on certain subjects. (His health care reform plan is actually further towards the right end of the political spectrum than Nixon&#039;s was in most of the important respects. Hah, I bet you didn&#039;t even know Nixon had a health care reform plan. MUST HAVE BEEN A COMMIE, HUH?)

He&#039;s certainly well to the right of Clinton. Calling him a commie socialist who is DESTROYING AMERICA!!!1!!one! just makes you look dumber than a box full of doorknobs.

Looks can be deceiving, of course. But that&#039;s not how I&#039;d bet.

-fred]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to come here and listen to all the intelligent people talking constructively about our government.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how many people on the Right go from &#8216;throw all the lawyers out of Congress, they&#8217;re all scum!&#8217; when the lawyers in question are Democrats to &#8216;hah, he&#8217;s not a lawyer, he&#8217;s not qualified to be in Congress&#8217; when the lawyer is on the Democrats&#8217; side.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called &#8216;sticking to your principles&#8217;. And one of the principles of the current Republican party is &#8216;use any argument to hurt your opponent, whether it makes sense or not&#8217;. Self-consistency, and indeed self-examination, is not a problem which these people have in any great degree.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve met Jerry McNerney. He&#8217;s smart, he&#8217;s self-consistent, and he&#8217;s willing to talk to his constituents, and, more importantly, listen to them. For all of you who don&#8217;t foam at the mouth when his name comes up simply because it has a &#8216;D&#8217; next to it, I highly recommend you go to one of his meet-and-greets and bring up your concerns. You might be surprised by how interested he is in them.</p>
<p>Oh, and anyone who thinks McNerney is some kind of radical because he has mostly voted for Obama&#8217;s agenda? You&#8217;re demonstrating to those of us with still-functioning brains that you can&#8217;t be taken seriously, because you know nothing at all about politics. Obama is microscopically to the left of Nixon, and that only on certain subjects. (His health care reform plan is actually further towards the right end of the political spectrum than Nixon&#8217;s was in most of the important respects. Hah, I bet you didn&#8217;t even know Nixon had a health care reform plan. MUST HAVE BEEN A COMMIE, HUH?)</p>
<p>He&#8217;s certainly well to the right of Clinton. Calling him a commie socialist who is DESTROYING AMERICA!!!1!!one! just makes you look dumber than a box full of doorknobs.</p>
<p>Looks can be deceiving, of course. But that&#8217;s not how I&#8217;d bet.</p>
<p>-fred</p>
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		<title>By: VOTE THEM OUT</title>
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		<dc:creator>VOTE THEM OUT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oooh mathematics. So McNerney can calculate all the lies he tells I guess. Hopefully he&#039;ll use them to figure out how many people voted yes to BOOT HIM OUT!

Maybe he should use the mathematics to figure out how his vote on HCR will bankrupt the nation. Oh no, use it to figure out how the FAILED stimulus packages are killing our country and economy.

If he has a degree in mathematics he sure doesn&#039;t know how to use it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh mathematics. So McNerney can calculate all the lies he tells I guess. Hopefully he&#8217;ll use them to figure out how many people voted yes to BOOT HIM OUT!</p>
<p>Maybe he should use the mathematics to figure out how his vote on HCR will bankrupt the nation. Oh no, use it to figure out how the FAILED stimulus packages are killing our country and economy.</p>
<p>If he has a degree in mathematics he sure doesn&#8217;t know how to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re:  #18

Spoken like somebody who has employer-based group insurance and doesn&#039;t have to worry about pre-existing conditions, retroactive policy cancellations, and claims being routinely denied.  People who do enjoy employer-based group coverage should not be smug and think they are getting their health care without government assistance.  Government subsidizes employer-based insurance to the tune of about $250 billion annually and affords all kinds of consumer protections for people who are so covered.  Same for people with Medicare or VA coverage.  People who get insurance on their own currently get no such subsidy and few consumer protections.  The health care law is mostly about the people who have to buy coverage on their own in the individual market -- giving their purchasing power through the private insurance exchanges and giving them protection against the abuses of the individual health insurance industry.  I don&#039;t get how that is a &quot;takeover&quot; or &quot;socialized medicine.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  #18</p>
<p>Spoken like somebody who has employer-based group insurance and doesn&#8217;t have to worry about pre-existing conditions, retroactive policy cancellations, and claims being routinely denied.  People who do enjoy employer-based group coverage should not be smug and think they are getting their health care without government assistance.  Government subsidizes employer-based insurance to the tune of about $250 billion annually and affords all kinds of consumer protections for people who are so covered.  Same for people with Medicare or VA coverage.  People who get insurance on their own currently get no such subsidy and few consumer protections.  The health care law is mostly about the people who have to buy coverage on their own in the individual market &#8212; giving their purchasing power through the private insurance exchanges and giving them protection against the abuses of the individual health insurance industry.  I don&#8217;t get how that is a &#8220;takeover&#8221; or &#8220;socialized medicine.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 00:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re:  #17

Well, I can&#039;t prove it, but I&#039;m betting someone with a law degree knows more about the constitution than a mathematician.

Just a hunch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  #17</p>
<p>Well, I can&#8217;t prove it, but I&#8217;m betting someone with a law degree knows more about the constitution than a mathematician.</p>
<p>Just a hunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 00:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When a stay at home mom of three, has to babysit my congressmans votes, you know congress is out of control! Jerry McNerneys vote for the takeover of our Health Care system to Socialized Medicine was my tipping point. 

Not only does HarmerforCongress.com have my vote, I am leading a group of moms who are also so sick of the mess that Jerry McNerney has caused in Washington, we are walking precincts with our kids in strollers! 

Go Harmer 2010!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a stay at home mom of three, has to babysit my congressmans votes, you know congress is out of control! Jerry McNerneys vote for the takeover of our Health Care system to Socialized Medicine was my tipping point. </p>
<p>Not only does HarmerforCongress.com have my vote, I am leading a group of moms who are also so sick of the mess that Jerry McNerney has caused in Washington, we are walking precincts with our kids in strollers! </p>
<p>Go Harmer 2010!</p>
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