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		<title>By: Frank R.</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/10/01/fear-and-loathing-in-congressional-district-13/comment-page-1/#comment-19423</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,

Additionally, it is the left that usually tries to destroys a person who disagrees. Conservatives usually respect someone&#039;s own opinion. By coming after me personally shows you are actually closer to the left in tactics and morality, then to the right.

True Conservatives stick to the issues and win or lose on the merits of thier arguments. Liberals tend to go after individuals who disagree with them and discredit them, like you are attempting here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Additionally, it is the left that usually tries to destroys a person who disagrees. Conservatives usually respect someone&#8217;s own opinion. By coming after me personally shows you are actually closer to the left in tactics and morality, then to the right.</p>
<p>True Conservatives stick to the issues and win or lose on the merits of thier arguments. Liberals tend to go after individuals who disagree with them and discredit them, like you are attempting here.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,

It is unfortunate that my posts are confusing to you. It shows that you are not seeing the reality of the situation. I am conservative and I have done much for the conservative cause, but I am brutally honest. You must be honest to be a good conservative. But you mistake opinion for honesty.

Be honest, putting up signs that can&#039;t be read is not a good thing? Be honest.

Be honest, is distrupting an opponents rally a &quot;classy&quot; thing to do? Be honest?

Be honest, is attacking another Tea Party for non-support a &quot;classy&quot; thing to do (both Baker and Pareja)?

So both Conservative Candidates are guilty, be honest, are these actions worthy of a Conservative Congressional Candidate? Be honest.

If you can&#039;t be honest with these obvious questions. Then I understand why my comments are confusing to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>It is unfortunate that my posts are confusing to you. It shows that you are not seeing the reality of the situation. I am conservative and I have done much for the conservative cause, but I am brutally honest. You must be honest to be a good conservative. But you mistake opinion for honesty.</p>
<p>Be honest, putting up signs that can&#8217;t be read is not a good thing? Be honest.</p>
<p>Be honest, is distrupting an opponents rally a &#8220;classy&#8221; thing to do? Be honest?</p>
<p>Be honest, is attacking another Tea Party for non-support a &#8220;classy&#8221; thing to do (both Baker and Pareja)?</p>
<p>So both Conservative Candidates are guilty, be honest, are these actions worthy of a Conservative Congressional Candidate? Be honest.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t be honest with these obvious questions. Then I understand why my comments are confusing to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Democrats Edge Ahead of Republicans in 2010 Election Poll &#124; RepublicanDaily.info</title>
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		<dc:creator>Democrats Edge Ahead of Republicans in 2010 Election Poll &#124; RepublicanDaily.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 20:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve Kemp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 06:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank:
Your posts are somewhat confusing.  If you support the conservative movement, you have a funny way of showing it.  You seem to have more of an interest in taking jabs at good conservative people who are trying to make a difference in District 13 such as Mr. Pareja, Sandi and Marla.  

Perhaps you ought to get out and try volunteering some of your precious time to see how it feels instead of sitting behind your keyboard and playing the &quot;Joker in the Deck&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:<br />
Your posts are somewhat confusing.  If you support the conservative movement, you have a funny way of showing it.  You seem to have more of an interest in taking jabs at good conservative people who are trying to make a difference in District 13 such as Mr. Pareja, Sandi and Marla.  </p>
<p>Perhaps you ought to get out and try volunteering some of your precious time to see how it feels instead of sitting behind your keyboard and playing the &#8220;Joker in the Deck&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forest Baker plays the race card? Why he sound&#039;s like a Democrat Liberal. He must be scraping the bottom of the barrel. Pete must be having a good time watching Baker and Pareja go at it. A Barrel of Laughs!! With Conservative Candidates like these, who needs Liberals?

Walter forgets that no President can wage anything without MONEY. MONEY only comes from one place, you guessed it, the Congress. And who has been in charge of the Congress? Bush?? (NO!!!) Liberal Idiots Pelosi and Reid. Oh, I guess it was still Bush&#039;s fault. I am growing very tired of that excuse. If Obama, Pelosi and Reid cannot solve the problems, they need to step aside and let someone else in. This country is going to &quot;Hell in a hand Basket&quot; and these three clowns are clueless. 

But Walter is right, getting out of the war will cut spending temporarily. That is until the next 9/11 attack or worse. We could just absorb it like Obama said. But I think we will probably go after them. But then we probably will spend 10 times more than we are now. LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forest Baker plays the race card? Why he sound&#8217;s like a Democrat Liberal. He must be scraping the bottom of the barrel. Pete must be having a good time watching Baker and Pareja go at it. A Barrel of Laughs!! With Conservative Candidates like these, who needs Liberals?</p>
<p>Walter forgets that no President can wage anything without MONEY. MONEY only comes from one place, you guessed it, the Congress. And who has been in charge of the Congress? Bush?? (NO!!!) Liberal Idiots Pelosi and Reid. Oh, I guess it was still Bush&#8217;s fault. I am growing very tired of that excuse. If Obama, Pelosi and Reid cannot solve the problems, they need to step aside and let someone else in. This country is going to &#8220;Hell in a hand Basket&#8221; and these three clowns are clueless. </p>
<p>But Walter is right, getting out of the war will cut spending temporarily. That is until the next 9/11 attack or worse. We could just absorb it like Obama said. But I think we will probably go after them. But then we probably will spend 10 times more than we are now. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Walter, Livermore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter, Livermore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 19:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to know if either of these &quot;conservative&quot; candidates are advocating a humble, non-interventionist foreign policy where we lead by example, follow the Constitution and mind our own business?

The Bush/Obama undeclared military police actions&#039; in both Afghanstan and Iraq have been going on far too long without consent from the people.

Hint*Hint- If &quot;conservatives&quot; really want to cut spending, lower taxes, promote individual liberty and decrease the size of government... look no further than our policemen of the world foreign policy and the Dept of Homeland (so-called) Security. Both have BIG GOV&#039;T written all over them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to know if either of these &#8220;conservative&#8221; candidates are advocating a humble, non-interventionist foreign policy where we lead by example, follow the Constitution and mind our own business?</p>
<p>The Bush/Obama undeclared military police actions&#8217; in both Afghanstan and Iraq have been going on far too long without consent from the people.</p>
<p>Hint*Hint- If &#8220;conservatives&#8221; really want to cut spending, lower taxes, promote individual liberty and decrease the size of government&#8230; look no further than our policemen of the world foreign policy and the Dept of Homeland (so-called) Security. Both have BIG GOV&#8217;T written all over them.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Kemp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 05:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forest Baker is running against Pete Stark in Dist 13.  I don&#039;t know Baker.  I&#039;ve never talked to him or corresponded with him.  Yet he chose to use slanderous statements about me on his facebook page.  

He professes to be a &quot;Republican&quot;, but even a RINO wouldn&#039;t resort to some of the reckless statements that he makes.  Conservative - I seriously doubt it.  Progressive, Socialist - now we&#039;re getting warm.   

I&#039;m a Minuteman.  I believe in immigration and how could I not?  My grandparents, who raised me, immigrated here - legally of course in circa 1910.  It&#039;s illegal immigration that I&#039;m against, as are all Minutemen.  But here&#039;s what Baker says about me:
1) &quot;… everyone knows that Steve Kemp opposes virtually all immigration and his views are profoundly un-American.&quot;

To be honest, I&#039;ve heard the same sort of comments from some of the vile Socialists and pro illegal alien supporters in San Francisco and other cities around the Bay.

Un-American?  My stepson just commissioned into the Air Force and I&#039;m proud of our Nation&#039;s newest Second Lieutenant.  When he was six years old, the National Anthem was played on TV and I told him to stand with me.  He was a little confused, but he did stand, and he &quot;got it&quot;.  BTW, my stepson is half black (as is his sister), which negates Baker&#039;s next allegation:

2) &quot;They [John Guerrero and Marla Castagnolo] knew for certain that I would not agree to work with Steve Kemp as he promoted his racist agenda.&quot;  

So Baker chooses to throw mud around, not only at me, but at others such as Mr. Pareja.  And on that subject, I&#039;ve met Chris on several occasions and I can tell you without reservation, that Chris Pareja is the &quot;real deal&quot; - an honest, polite, true conservative who cares about his country and treats his fellow citizens with respect.  A real class act who has a future in politics.

I don&#039;t know what Baker is, nor do I much care.   As I said, I don&#039;t know him, and frankly, I don&#039;t want to either.
Steve Kemp]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forest Baker is running against Pete Stark in Dist 13.  I don&#8217;t know Baker.  I&#8217;ve never talked to him or corresponded with him.  Yet he chose to use slanderous statements about me on his facebook page.  </p>
<p>He professes to be a &#8220;Republican&#8221;, but even a RINO wouldn&#8217;t resort to some of the reckless statements that he makes.  Conservative &#8211; I seriously doubt it.  Progressive, Socialist &#8211; now we&#8217;re getting warm.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Minuteman.  I believe in immigration and how could I not?  My grandparents, who raised me, immigrated here &#8211; legally of course in circa 1910.  It&#8217;s illegal immigration that I&#8217;m against, as are all Minutemen.  But here&#8217;s what Baker says about me:<br />
1) &#8220;… everyone knows that Steve Kemp opposes virtually all immigration and his views are profoundly un-American.&#8221;</p>
<p>To be honest, I&#8217;ve heard the same sort of comments from some of the vile Socialists and pro illegal alien supporters in San Francisco and other cities around the Bay.</p>
<p>Un-American?  My stepson just commissioned into the Air Force and I&#8217;m proud of our Nation&#8217;s newest Second Lieutenant.  When he was six years old, the National Anthem was played on TV and I told him to stand with me.  He was a little confused, but he did stand, and he &#8220;got it&#8221;.  BTW, my stepson is half black (as is his sister), which negates Baker&#8217;s next allegation:</p>
<p>2) &#8220;They [John Guerrero and Marla Castagnolo] knew for certain that I would not agree to work with Steve Kemp as he promoted his racist agenda.&#8221;  </p>
<p>So Baker chooses to throw mud around, not only at me, but at others such as Mr. Pareja.  And on that subject, I&#8217;ve met Chris on several occasions and I can tell you without reservation, that Chris Pareja is the &#8220;real deal&#8221; &#8211; an honest, polite, true conservative who cares about his country and treats his fellow citizens with respect.  A real class act who has a future in politics.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what Baker is, nor do I much care.   As I said, I don&#8217;t know him, and frankly, I don&#8217;t want to either.<br />
Steve Kemp</p>
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		<title>By: Marla Castagnolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marla Castagnolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank R. 

Many voters I have talked with don&#039;t even know anything about Forest Baker. If we don&#039;t know anything about the person we are voting for, than we must educate ourselves. If we don&#039;t educate ourselves, than we will end up in the mess we are in. Many of us have gone to the polls and voted for the D or the R, not even understanding what that candidate&#039;s policies were. I am doing my best to spread the word about what I know about Forest Baker and Chris Pareja. You can take it or leave it, after all this is still America. You can even choose to vote for Pete Stark if you want to. Personally, I don&#039;t feel like laughing as you do but then again I am not into socialism either. If we don&#039;t get serious about what we are doing in this country, that is what we can look forward to. By the way, I am a busy mother and homemaker who takes time away from her family to fight for our country. I will gladly pass the responsibility on to you once you know what an organizer of a group is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank R. </p>
<p>Many voters I have talked with don&#8217;t even know anything about Forest Baker. If we don&#8217;t know anything about the person we are voting for, than we must educate ourselves. If we don&#8217;t educate ourselves, than we will end up in the mess we are in. Many of us have gone to the polls and voted for the D or the R, not even understanding what that candidate&#8217;s policies were. I am doing my best to spread the word about what I know about Forest Baker and Chris Pareja. You can take it or leave it, after all this is still America. You can even choose to vote for Pete Stark if you want to. Personally, I don&#8217;t feel like laughing as you do but then again I am not into socialism either. If we don&#8217;t get serious about what we are doing in this country, that is what we can look forward to. By the way, I am a busy mother and homemaker who takes time away from her family to fight for our country. I will gladly pass the responsibility on to you once you know what an organizer of a group is.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps I spoke too soon. I did not notice that Pareja was a write-in candidate. In that case, Baker should just ignore him. Pareja will get less &quot;air time&quot; and won&#039;t get too many votes. But every vote Pareja gets is one less for Baker. LOL, Pete might win again.

But Pareja should show some class and stop intruding on Baker&#039;s rallys.

I see that Pareja also tried to get on the Ballot but couldn&#039;t. Hey Pareja, are you (and the MM and TP) going to do it again in 2012? When Pete wins in 2010 then he won&#039;t have to worry about 2012 either!!  LOL

I saw some signs for Pareja. I could not read it but I recognized the face from this article. Nice Picture Pareja. Maybe Stark will donate some money to your campaign so you can get some signs that we can read!! Or maybe the voters will just draw your face on the ballot. (This is just too funny!!!  LOLOLOLOLOL)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I spoke too soon. I did not notice that Pareja was a write-in candidate. In that case, Baker should just ignore him. Pareja will get less &#8220;air time&#8221; and won&#8217;t get too many votes. But every vote Pareja gets is one less for Baker. LOL, Pete might win again.</p>
<p>But Pareja should show some class and stop intruding on Baker&#8217;s rallys.</p>
<p>I see that Pareja also tried to get on the Ballot but couldn&#8217;t. Hey Pareja, are you (and the MM and TP) going to do it again in 2012? When Pete wins in 2010 then he won&#8217;t have to worry about 2012 either!!  LOL</p>
<p>I saw some signs for Pareja. I could not read it but I recognized the face from this article. Nice Picture Pareja. Maybe Stark will donate some money to your campaign so you can get some signs that we can read!! Or maybe the voters will just draw your face on the ballot. (This is just too funny!!!  LOLOLOLOLOL)</p>
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		<title>By: Frank R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s see if I got this straight:

1. Forest Baker won the June Primary for the Republicans. But Sandy and Marla swear that Baker is a socialist of some sort. Sandy Jacobs is President of the Golden Gate Minutemen and Marla is Organzer (what is that) for the TriCity Tea Party. When Sandy says she talked to Minutemen (and Tea Party), I guess she is probably right. LOL

2. Pareja is backed by the MinuteMen and the TriCity Tea Party (I assume..) and Chris is an Independent Conservative Tea Party Candidate.

3. Baker also claims to be a Conservative...so now we have two Conservatives running (although one may be a socialist?).

4. Pareja intrudes on Baker&#039;s Rally and Baker Blames the Fremont Tea Party. The Fremont Tea Party puts it back on Pareja.

5. Pareja and his group, at one time intrudes and disrupts a Fremont Tea Party Meeting.

6. The Fremont Tea Party did not support either Conservative...but both Conservative Candidates blame/disrupts the Fremont Tea Party.

Summary: GOP Winner is Challanged by an Independent TP Candidate for the Conservative Votes. Both Candidates attack a Non Participant Conservative Group (Fremont TP).

Conclusion: Pete Stark Wins!!!

My, my , my....with Conservatives, MM, and TP&#039;s like these..no wonder Pete keeps getting elected over and over again. LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see if I got this straight:</p>
<p>1. Forest Baker won the June Primary for the Republicans. But Sandy and Marla swear that Baker is a socialist of some sort. Sandy Jacobs is President of the Golden Gate Minutemen and Marla is Organzer (what is that) for the TriCity Tea Party. When Sandy says she talked to Minutemen (and Tea Party), I guess she is probably right. LOL</p>
<p>2. Pareja is backed by the MinuteMen and the TriCity Tea Party (I assume..) and Chris is an Independent Conservative Tea Party Candidate.</p>
<p>3. Baker also claims to be a Conservative&#8230;so now we have two Conservatives running (although one may be a socialist?).</p>
<p>4. Pareja intrudes on Baker&#8217;s Rally and Baker Blames the Fremont Tea Party. The Fremont Tea Party puts it back on Pareja.</p>
<p>5. Pareja and his group, at one time intrudes and disrupts a Fremont Tea Party Meeting.</p>
<p>6. The Fremont Tea Party did not support either Conservative&#8230;but both Conservative Candidates blame/disrupts the Fremont Tea Party.</p>
<p>Summary: GOP Winner is Challanged by an Independent TP Candidate for the Conservative Votes. Both Candidates attack a Non Participant Conservative Group (Fremont TP).</p>
<p>Conclusion: Pete Stark Wins!!!</p>
<p>My, my , my&#8230;.with Conservatives, MM, and TP&#8217;s like these..no wonder Pete keeps getting elected over and over again. LOL</p>
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