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	<title>Comments on: CD11: McNerney declares victory, Harmer fights on</title>
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		<title>By: steveweir</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveweir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congress is the judge of their own elections. (Article I, Sec. 5 / 1)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congress is the judge of their own elections. (Article I, Sec. 5 / 1)</p>
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		<title>By: steveweir</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveweir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right, Prop 14 eliminates write-ins in the General Elections.

To change your status, send us a note stating that you would like to be removed from the Permanent Vote-by-Mail category.

State your name and address, and sign your request.

that&#039;ll do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, Prop 14 eliminates write-ins in the General Elections.</p>
<p>To change your status, send us a note stating that you would like to be removed from the Permanent Vote-by-Mail category.</p>
<p>State your name and address, and sign your request.</p>
<p>that&#8217;ll do it.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve Weir -- with the new open primary system, we won&#039;t have write-ins in the general election, right?  Seems like that should alleviate the workload somewhat. On the other hand, with independent redistricting, we could have more close races for legislative seats, leading to more of these long waits for races to be decided.

I think this is my last election using vote-by-mail.  As I recall, I got on permanent VBM when I first moved to the state in 2004 and registered at the DMV.  What&#039;s the procedure for getting off permanent VBM?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Weir &#8212; with the new open primary system, we won&#8217;t have write-ins in the general election, right?  Seems like that should alleviate the workload somewhat. On the other hand, with independent redistricting, we could have more close races for legislative seats, leading to more of these long waits for races to be decided.</p>
<p>I think this is my last election using vote-by-mail.  As I recall, I got on permanent VBM when I first moved to the state in 2004 and registered at the DMV.  What&#8217;s the procedure for getting off permanent VBM?</p>
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		<title>By: steve weir</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve weir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The question of when someone is elected is simple.  When we complete the canvass, and certify the results.  Then, and only then, is someone elected.  The next step is for that person to take their oath of office (and file a bond when required).

Without all of these steps, a person cannot take office, act in any official capacity, and be reimbursed (paid).

Ralph is correctly, except that the Counties have 28 days to certify, and the SOS has until the 32nd day after the election to compile those certified results.  

The canvass has become more-and-more complicated because it is not only counting the cast ballots, it includes an extensive accounting for ballots issued, voted, spoiled, and not voted.

With the ever increasing use of vote-by-mail balloting, and with more than 67% of those cast ballots coming in the last 9 days (election day accounted for 25% of all cast vote-by-mail ballots), our canvass takes on more work.  That work must be performed in a sequence to detect and prevent someone from voting twice (or three times).

Contra Costa has a logical and well thought out process that documents the chain of custody (who did what with the ballots)that also slows our canvass process.

I hate to say this, but I am going to explore the use of signature verifying software (now in use in several Bay Area counties) to streamline our signature checking process.  This process can be set to include 60 0r 70 0r 80% match criteria. 

In addition, we have been HAND COUNTING write in votes for designated write-in candidates when those candidates cannot even approach 5% of the vote required to win.  There has to be a way to respect both candidates and voters who choose a write-in option, without having to go through almost 400,000 ballots.  (There are legitimate cases for write-in candidates.  However, with rare exceptions, most write-in votes are seemingly protest votes and are not for registered write-in candidates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question of when someone is elected is simple.  When we complete the canvass, and certify the results.  Then, and only then, is someone elected.  The next step is for that person to take their oath of office (and file a bond when required).</p>
<p>Without all of these steps, a person cannot take office, act in any official capacity, and be reimbursed (paid).</p>
<p>Ralph is correctly, except that the Counties have 28 days to certify, and the SOS has until the 32nd day after the election to compile those certified results.  </p>
<p>The canvass has become more-and-more complicated because it is not only counting the cast ballots, it includes an extensive accounting for ballots issued, voted, spoiled, and not voted.</p>
<p>With the ever increasing use of vote-by-mail balloting, and with more than 67% of those cast ballots coming in the last 9 days (election day accounted for 25% of all cast vote-by-mail ballots), our canvass takes on more work.  That work must be performed in a sequence to detect and prevent someone from voting twice (or three times).</p>
<p>Contra Costa has a logical and well thought out process that documents the chain of custody (who did what with the ballots)that also slows our canvass process.</p>
<p>I hate to say this, but I am going to explore the use of signature verifying software (now in use in several Bay Area counties) to streamline our signature checking process.  This process can be set to include 60 0r 70 0r 80% match criteria. </p>
<p>In addition, we have been HAND COUNTING write in votes for designated write-in candidates when those candidates cannot even approach 5% of the vote required to win.  There has to be a way to respect both candidates and voters who choose a write-in option, without having to go through almost 400,000 ballots.  (There are legitimate cases for write-in candidates.  However, with rare exceptions, most write-in votes are seemingly protest votes and are not for registered write-in candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Benigno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Benigno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is one other way? When the candidate goes to Washinton D.C. and plays the winning congressman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one other way? When the candidate goes to Washinton D.C. and plays the winning congressman.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hoffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 03:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom, pending Mr. Weir&#039;s explanation, there are a number of ways winners are declared: 1. By themselves.
2. When the uncounted votes are less than the margin of victory. 3. When all losing candidates have conceded. 4. When the LWV, or the News Media has declared a winner. 5. When the Secretary of State has certified the election, 28 days after the election date.  (The only official way in multi-County elections.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, pending Mr. Weir&#8217;s explanation, there are a number of ways winners are declared: 1. By themselves.<br />
2. When the uncounted votes are less than the margin of victory. 3. When all losing candidates have conceded. 4. When the LWV, or the News Media has declared a winner. 5. When the Secretary of State has certified the election, 28 days after the election date.  (The only official way in multi-County elections.)</p>
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		<title>By: Gus Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Secretary of State web site has a &quot;Close Contests&quot; page which shows McNerney about 2500 votes ahead of Harmer, leading by about 0.9%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Secretary of State web site has a &#8220;Close Contests&#8221; page which shows McNerney about 2500 votes ahead of Harmer, leading by about 0.9%.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Benigno</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/11/10/cd11-mcnerney-declares-victory-harmer-fights-on/comment-page-2/#comment-23765</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Benigno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought the 11th district race has already been decided, and Mc Nerney has won by a great number of votes. Fill me in if I&#039;m wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the 11th district race has already been decided, and Mc Nerney has won by a great number of votes. Fill me in if I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hoffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 03:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to CSPAN, the CD11 race is one of only two undecided.  Have you been interviewed by CSPAN yet Steve?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to CSPAN, the CD11 race is one of only two undecided.  Have you been interviewed by CSPAN yet Steve?</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 04:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand your point now, Steve Weir.  I missed what you were driving at the first time around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your point now, Steve Weir.  I missed what you were driving at the first time around.</p>
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