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	<title>Comments on: Dems tout health insurance premium rebates</title>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hoffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many insurance companies have high profits because their stock isn&#039;t publicly traded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many insurance companies have high profits because their stock isn&#8217;t publicly traded.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/11/22/dems-tout-health-insurance-premium-rebates/comment-page-1/#comment-23707</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be fair, this is not all smoke and mirrors.  What they are talking about is premiums paid by people who have to buy insurance on their own in the dysfunctional individual insurance market, rather than getting it through an employer plan. &quot;Obamacare&quot; is 90% about reforming that segment of the health insurance industry, not overhauling the entire health care system.  People who have always had access to employer-sponsored health insurance often don&#039;t realize what people in the individual market are up against -- no tax preference, higher premiums, pre-existing conditions, arbitrarily denied claims etc.  In contrast to insurance obtained through employers, where 85% or more of each premium dollar typically goes to pay for health care, 70% or less of premiums in the less regulated individual market have gone to paying for health care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, this is not all smoke and mirrors.  What they are talking about is premiums paid by people who have to buy insurance on their own in the dysfunctional individual insurance market, rather than getting it through an employer plan. &#8220;Obamacare&#8221; is 90% about reforming that segment of the health insurance industry, not overhauling the entire health care system.  People who have always had access to employer-sponsored health insurance often don&#8217;t realize what people in the individual market are up against &#8212; no tax preference, higher premiums, pre-existing conditions, arbitrarily denied claims etc.  In contrast to insurance obtained through employers, where 85% or more of each premium dollar typically goes to pay for health care, 70% or less of premiums in the less regulated individual market have gone to paying for health care.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 06:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this dimmiecrat wonderfulness will be paid for by our grandchildren in higher taxes.

There is no free lunch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this dimmiecrat wonderfulness will be paid for by our grandchildren in higher taxes.</p>
<p>There is no free lunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Tater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Tater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 06:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you really expect any thinking person to trust Miller or Stark on ANY issue?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you really expect any thinking person to trust Miller or Stark on ANY issue?</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/11/22/dems-tout-health-insurance-premium-rebates/comment-page-1/#comment-23599</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 04:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay.  Make that two tenths of one percent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay.  Make that two tenths of one percent.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/11/22/dems-tout-health-insurance-premium-rebates/comment-page-1/#comment-23598</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 04:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right. $4.9 billion is a tenth of one percent of what we spend on health care.  Dems, Repubs and the general public never seem to get it that our problem is runaway medical costs.  We can dink around with the middleman we call insurance all we want, but it makes no difference if the underlying health care costs that drive insurance rates keep growing at two or three times as much as the economy as a whole.  Nobody -- private sector, public sector or individuals -- will be able to afford good health care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. $4.9 billion is a tenth of one percent of what we spend on health care.  Dems, Repubs and the general public never seem to get it that our problem is runaway medical costs.  We can dink around with the middleman we call insurance all we want, but it makes no difference if the underlying health care costs that drive insurance rates keep growing at two or three times as much as the economy as a whole.  Nobody &#8212; private sector, public sector or individuals &#8212; will be able to afford good health care.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/11/22/dems-tout-health-insurance-premium-rebates/comment-page-1/#comment-23590</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 02:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This doesn&#039;t seem like big bucks on a per-person basis.  It seems to me that the extent to which the law holds down future rates is far more important.  Does (will) it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t seem like big bucks on a per-person basis.  It seems to me that the extent to which the law holds down future rates is far more important.  Does (will) it?</p>
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		<title>By: RR, Uninvited  Columnist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR, Uninvited  Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Messrs Stark and Miller don&#039;t explain is how Uncle Sam will administer the industry administrators.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Messrs Stark and Miller don&#8217;t explain is how Uncle Sam will administer the industry administrators.</p>
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