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	<title>Comments on: Bittersweet day for California’s Senators</title>
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		<title>By: RR, Uninvited  Columnist</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2010/12/18/bittersweet-day-for-california%e2%80%99s-senators/comment-page-1/#comment-25197</link>
		<dc:creator>RR, Uninvited  Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 05:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DiFi&#039;s touching tribute to America&#039;s heroic sissies should finish off once and for all time the homophobes&#039; doubts about the physical courage of our homosexuals. The Senator is a homophile and proud of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DiFi&#8217;s touching tribute to America&#8217;s heroic sissies should finish off once and for all time the homophobes&#8217; doubts about the physical courage of our homosexuals. The Senator is a homophile and proud of it.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Considering where we are on the immigration issue, I imagine we&#039;ll soon need to update the poem at the Statue of Liberty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering where we are on the immigration issue, I imagine we&#8217;ll soon need to update the poem at the Statue of Liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hoffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 04:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elwood, tell that to our Founders who came from Europe with no Passport.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elwood, tell that to our Founders who came from Europe with no Passport.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 03:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been reading so much bleeding heart liberal crap on here lately that I think it&#039;s time to restate the handy dandy Elwood immigration control plan:

1.  If you&#039;re not here, don&#039;t come.

2.  If you&#039;re not a citizen, go home.

Any questions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading so much bleeding heart liberal crap on here lately that I think it&#8217;s time to restate the handy dandy Elwood immigration control plan:</p>
<p>1.  If you&#8217;re not here, don&#8217;t come.</p>
<p>2.  If you&#8217;re not a citizen, go home.</p>
<p>Any questions?</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 00:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We look at the DREAM act proposal as &quot;rewarding&quot; somebody.  That&#039;s the wrong spin, in my opinion.  The issue is what to do with those who were brought here when they were as young as a few months, who have spent virtually their entire lives here, followed all the rules, performed well in school and, in many cases, been better &quot;citizens&quot; than some of us whose claim to the &quot;reward&quot; of citizenship is nothing more than our good fortune of having been born here.  So, if we&#039;re not going to offer a way for them to regularize their status here, what do those who oppose the idea want us to do?  Ship them back to a place where, in practical terms, they have never been?  Let them be zombie residents whose future is to drift from one day labor gig to another, even though they have demonstrated the potential to be much more -- a teacher, a cop, a business owner or what have you?  Seems to me that this is a total waste and a formula for creating all kinds of problems.  To give them a path to normalcy is, in my view, not to reward them, but to serve our own enlightened self-interest.  I know there are those who are at least somewhat sympathetic to the kids who serve in the military but who react negatively to the idea that completing a college education would be a path.  I can understand that if we&#039;re looking at this in the &quot;reward&quot; sense.  But, again, isn&#039;t in our self-interest for them to get the schooling of which they are capable, so that their existence here can be productive, rather than the opposite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We look at the DREAM act proposal as &#8220;rewarding&#8221; somebody.  That&#8217;s the wrong spin, in my opinion.  The issue is what to do with those who were brought here when they were as young as a few months, who have spent virtually their entire lives here, followed all the rules, performed well in school and, in many cases, been better &#8220;citizens&#8221; than some of us whose claim to the &#8220;reward&#8221; of citizenship is nothing more than our good fortune of having been born here.  So, if we&#8217;re not going to offer a way for them to regularize their status here, what do those who oppose the idea want us to do?  Ship them back to a place where, in practical terms, they have never been?  Let them be zombie residents whose future is to drift from one day labor gig to another, even though they have demonstrated the potential to be much more &#8212; a teacher, a cop, a business owner or what have you?  Seems to me that this is a total waste and a formula for creating all kinds of problems.  To give them a path to normalcy is, in my view, not to reward them, but to serve our own enlightened self-interest.  I know there are those who are at least somewhat sympathetic to the kids who serve in the military but who react negatively to the idea that completing a college education would be a path.  I can understand that if we&#8217;re looking at this in the &#8220;reward&#8221; sense.  But, again, isn&#8217;t in our self-interest for them to get the schooling of which they are capable, so that their existence here can be productive, rather than the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[May wonders never cease!

RR is a born again liberal!

Hallelujah!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May wonders never cease!</p>
<p>RR is a born again liberal!</p>
<p>Hallelujah!</p>
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		<title>By: Common Tater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Tater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not interested in &quot;bitter-sweet&quot; days for our California senators.  I want to see much more &quot;bitter-bitter&quot; days for them. The more, the better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not interested in &#8220;bitter-sweet&#8221; days for our California senators.  I want to see much more &#8220;bitter-bitter&#8221; days for them. The more, the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hoffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 01:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RR:  Since when have you become a liberal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RR:  Since when have you become a liberal?</p>
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		<title>By: RR, Uninvited  Columnist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR, Uninvited  Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 01:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WHY I AM A LIBERAL
1. I strongly believe anyone who is not in agreement with the Democratic party is: racist, obscenely rich and selfish, greedy, ignorant or sadly misinformed, stupid.
2. I favor legislation that indicates correct and healthful behavior whether or not the citizen/resident is aware of the benefits.
3. White men are the source of almost everything that is wrong in the world. When White men get together they run greedy multinational corporations that despoil the environment.
4. The United Nations is the best hope for world peace. The UN is hated most by imperialists, colonialists, racists and greedy big corporations.
5. The reason most of the Third World is impoverished is obvious-- see above.
6. Islam and socialism are terribly misunderstood and maligned in this country. Capitalism and Western faiths are either harmful or based on ignorance.
7. I favor social engineering to assist minorities and working people--in other words, not people like me. My role is pointing the way. Ordinary people should be grateful to liberals and progressives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHY I AM A LIBERAL<br />
1. I strongly believe anyone who is not in agreement with the Democratic party is: racist, obscenely rich and selfish, greedy, ignorant or sadly misinformed, stupid.<br />
2. I favor legislation that indicates correct and healthful behavior whether or not the citizen/resident is aware of the benefits.<br />
3. White men are the source of almost everything that is wrong in the world. When White men get together they run greedy multinational corporations that despoil the environment.<br />
4. The United Nations is the best hope for world peace. The UN is hated most by imperialists, colonialists, racists and greedy big corporations.<br />
5. The reason most of the Third World is impoverished is obvious&#8211; see above.<br />
6. Islam and socialism are terribly misunderstood and maligned in this country. Capitalism and Western faiths are either harmful or based on ignorance.<br />
7. I favor social engineering to assist minorities and working people&#8211;in other words, not people like me. My role is pointing the way. Ordinary people should be grateful to liberals and progressives.</p>
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		<title>By: Iscariot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iscariot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So our citizen children can&#039;t attend because there is no room?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So our citizen children can&#8217;t attend because there is no room?</p>
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