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	<title>Comments on: McNerney pushes VA on Livermore, San Joaquin</title>
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		<title>By: ralph hoffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 00:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Republican Ron Paul voted against invading Iraq.  We would not have invaded Iraq if some Democrats had not voted to do so.  Democrat Obama authorized the Afghanistan troop surge.  Do we have to have anti-war demonstrations in USA Cities to bring our troops home to defend the homeland ala Egypt? 9/11/83 was the day Kissinger, Haig and the CIA overthrew democratically elected Salvador Allende in Santiago, Chile, to install a puppet dictator, much like puppets Mubarak, Papa Doc, Marcos, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republican Ron Paul voted against invading Iraq.  We would not have invaded Iraq if some Democrats had not voted to do so.  Democrat Obama authorized the Afghanistan troop surge.  Do we have to have anti-war demonstrations in USA Cities to bring our troops home to defend the homeland ala Egypt? 9/11/83 was the day Kissinger, Haig and the CIA overthrew democratically elected Salvador Allende in Santiago, Chile, to install a puppet dictator, much like puppets Mubarak, Papa Doc, Marcos, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 04:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David LaTour:

My opinion is that invading Iraq was on Bush&#039;s &quot;to do&quot; list the day he took office, long before 9/11, and had everything to do with getting Saddam and nothing to do with Muslims.  PATRIOT act was driven by fear of 9/11 repeat or worse, not fear of Muslims per se.  I agreed with extending the three provisions voted on the other day, because they are needed.  Do they compromise privacy rights?  Maybe, but not unreasonably so in my opinion, and not without justification.  For example, the &quot;roving wiretaps&quot; provision permits court approved wiretaps of foreign terrorist suspects without having to go back to the court each time a suspect tosses out his throw-away cell phone and starts using another.  They aren&#039;t constantly switching phones just for the fun of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David LaTour:</p>
<p>My opinion is that invading Iraq was on Bush&#8217;s &#8220;to do&#8221; list the day he took office, long before 9/11, and had everything to do with getting Saddam and nothing to do with Muslims.  PATRIOT act was driven by fear of 9/11 repeat or worse, not fear of Muslims per se.  I agreed with extending the three provisions voted on the other day, because they are needed.  Do they compromise privacy rights?  Maybe, but not unreasonably so in my opinion, and not without justification.  For example, the &#8220;roving wiretaps&#8221; provision permits court approved wiretaps of foreign terrorist suspects without having to go back to the court each time a suspect tosses out his throw-away cell phone and starts using another.  They aren&#8217;t constantly switching phones just for the fun of it.</p>
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		<title>By: David LaTour</title>
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		<dc:creator>David LaTour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@John, I agree that the use of terms like &quot;neocon&quot; can be too simplistic. In my opinion, the so-called PATRIOT Act along with the War in Iraq were both reactionary and driven by a fear of Muslims. Unfortunately, it appears that McNerney has accepted this view. Do you disagree that elements of the Patriot Act violate privacy rights?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John, I agree that the use of terms like &#8220;neocon&#8221; can be too simplistic. In my opinion, the so-called PATRIOT Act along with the War in Iraq were both reactionary and driven by a fear of Muslims. Unfortunately, it appears that McNerney has accepted this view. Do you disagree that elements of the Patriot Act violate privacy rights?</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/02/09/mcnerney-pushes-va-on-livermore-san-joaquin/comment-page-1/#comment-27576</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good question, Elwood.  Was wondering the same thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, Elwood.  Was wondering the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where&#039;s the Gressett thread?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the Gressett thread?</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/02/09/mcnerney-pushes-va-on-livermore-san-joaquin/comment-page-1/#comment-27568</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just because McNerney doesn&#039;t march in step with the Bay Area delegation on everything hardly makes him a &quot;neo-con.&quot;  Neo-con&#039;s are most closely associated with having concocted the justification for invading Iraq.  It was partly McNerney&#039;s opposition to what we were doing in Iraq that motivated him to run for Congress in the first place.  I&#039;m pretty liberal, and I agree with his vote on the Patriot Act.  He also voted for the health care bill -- an easy vote for the rest of Bay Area reps in liberal districts, but not such an easy vote in the 11th.  He took a lot of heat for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because McNerney doesn&#8217;t march in step with the Bay Area delegation on everything hardly makes him a &#8220;neo-con.&#8221;  Neo-con&#8217;s are most closely associated with having concocted the justification for invading Iraq.  It was partly McNerney&#8217;s opposition to what we were doing in Iraq that motivated him to run for Congress in the first place.  I&#8217;m pretty liberal, and I agree with his vote on the Patriot Act.  He also voted for the health care bill &#8212; an easy vote for the rest of Bay Area reps in liberal districts, but not such an easy vote in the 11th.  He took a lot of heat for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Richman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the full story on the Patriot Act vote, with McNerney&#039;s explanation, &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/gAFRzU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the full story on the Patriot Act vote, with McNerney&#8217;s explanation, <a href="http://bit.ly/gAFRzU" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: David LaTour</title>
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		<dc:creator>David LaTour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jerry McNerney was one of only 67 neo-con Dems to vote for the PATRIOT Act renewal last night. Thankfully, Stark and Lee both voted NO. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll026.xml]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry McNerney was one of only 67 neo-con Dems to vote for the PATRIOT Act renewal last night. Thankfully, Stark and Lee both voted NO. <a href="http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll026.xml" rel="nofollow">http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll026.xml</a></p>
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