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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/04/21/obama-fundraising-breakfast-disrupted-by-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-30824</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re:  Manning comments and especially #6

Speaking as someone who did wear an Army uniform (in fact, during the time when the Pentagon Papers were released), I don&#039;t know of many people who ever served who would sympathize with Manning, let alone think him some kind of hero.  People in uniform get to disobey unlawful orders.  In fact, they are supposed to.  They don&#039;t get to be muckraking whistleblowers, let alone engage in a conspiracy to release massive amounts of classified and highly sensitive data.  Some people, including Daniel Ellsberg himself, have compared Manning&#039;s actions to the Pentagon Papers in 1971.  Very different situation.  First, Ellsberg was not serving in uniform.  Second, the report known as the Pentagon Papers, although classified, was about the history of our involvement in Vietnam. It did not involve contemporaneous classified information, the release of which endangers operatives in the field and our ability to conduct diplomatic relationships with other nations.  Manning is going away for a long time.  He could make his stay more pleasant if he would cooperate with the investigation.  Ellsberg was never convicted of anything, but Manning will be.  Had he done this during WW II, he would have been executed.  How in the dickens a PFC (third lowest rank) with an ordinary Secret (not Top Secret) clearance ever managed to have access to this information is a whole &#039;nother issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  Manning comments and especially #6</p>
<p>Speaking as someone who did wear an Army uniform (in fact, during the time when the Pentagon Papers were released), I don&#8217;t know of many people who ever served who would sympathize with Manning, let alone think him some kind of hero.  People in uniform get to disobey unlawful orders.  In fact, they are supposed to.  They don&#8217;t get to be muckraking whistleblowers, let alone engage in a conspiracy to release massive amounts of classified and highly sensitive data.  Some people, including Daniel Ellsberg himself, have compared Manning&#8217;s actions to the Pentagon Papers in 1971.  Very different situation.  First, Ellsberg was not serving in uniform.  Second, the report known as the Pentagon Papers, although classified, was about the history of our involvement in Vietnam. It did not involve contemporaneous classified information, the release of which endangers operatives in the field and our ability to conduct diplomatic relationships with other nations.  Manning is going away for a long time.  He could make his stay more pleasant if he would cooperate with the investigation.  Ellsberg was never convicted of anything, but Manning will be.  Had he done this during WW II, he would have been executed.  How in the dickens a PFC (third lowest rank) with an ordinary Secret (not Top Secret) clearance ever managed to have access to this information is a whole &#8216;nother issue.</p>
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		<title>By: RR, Uninvited  Columnist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR, Uninvited  Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To all the members of the Manning fan club: Your other hero, M. Assange, is a big sissy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all the members of the Manning fan club: Your other hero, M. Assange, is a big sissy!</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hoffmann</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/04/21/obama-fundraising-breakfast-disrupted-by-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-30818</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 15:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RR, it&#039;s no wonder to anyone why you&#039;re an uninvited columnist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RR, it&#8217;s no wonder to anyone why you&#8217;re an uninvited columnist.</p>
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		<title>By: HEREME</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/04/21/obama-fundraising-breakfast-disrupted-by-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-30812</link>
		<dc:creator>HEREME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 03:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RR
Manning is a disgrace?
You are an idiot.
Don&#039;t tell anyone I said that. Please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RR<br />
Manning is a disgrace?<br />
You are an idiot.<br />
Don&#8217;t tell anyone I said that. Please.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 02:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RR... you could be a disgrace to the human race... 
You ever wear a uniform??? Probably not. Maybe put on ballarina outfit from time to time???  You ever steal a piece of candy from the supermarket???? Probably.  
Are you a Hypocrite????
Tell the truth now... God is watching...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RR&#8230; you could be a disgrace to the human race&#8230;<br />
You ever wear a uniform??? Probably not. Maybe put on ballarina outfit from time to time???  You ever steal a piece of candy from the supermarket???? Probably.<br />
Are you a Hypocrite????<br />
Tell the truth now&#8230; God is watching&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RR, Uninvited  Columnist</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/04/21/obama-fundraising-breakfast-disrupted-by-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-30805</link>
		<dc:creator>RR, Uninvited  Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 20:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Manning is a disgrace to his uniform.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manning is a disgrace to his uniform.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Joffe</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/04/21/obama-fundraising-breakfast-disrupted-by-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-30801</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Joffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish you posted a link to hear their song.
Sounds like a very creative way to publicise an important injustice that needs to be corrected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish you posted a link to hear their song.<br />
Sounds like a very creative way to publicise an important injustice that needs to be corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: 3 MILLION DOLLAR DINNER; OBAMA&#8217;S FUNDRASING IN SAN FRANSISCO &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>3 MILLION DOLLAR DINNER; OBAMA&#8217;S FUNDRASING IN SAN FRANSISCO &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 04:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RR, Uninvited  Columnist</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/04/21/obama-fundraising-breakfast-disrupted-by-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-30784</link>
		<dc:creator>RR, Uninvited  Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 23:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m no progressive (a la Oakland/Berkeley) but I sympathize with the Prez. Screen these weirdos! I&#039;d fire a few staffers (&quot;to inspire the others&quot;) to make sure this doesn&#039;t happen again. As for Prisoner Manning, solitary at Pelican Bay might give him time to think. He&#039;s getting off easy, peeling taters at Leavenworth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no progressive (a la Oakland/Berkeley) but I sympathize with the Prez. Screen these weirdos! I&#8217;d fire a few staffers (&#8220;to inspire the others&#8221;) to make sure this doesn&#8217;t happen again. As for Prisoner Manning, solitary at Pelican Bay might give him time to think. He&#8217;s getting off easy, peeling taters at Leavenworth.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/04/21/obama-fundraising-breakfast-disrupted-by-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-30779</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She personally paid $76 thousand for the tickets?  Who is Naomi Pitcairn?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She personally paid $76 thousand for the tickets?  Who is Naomi Pitcairn?</p>
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