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	<title>Comments on: California again defends healthcare reform law</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/07/07/california-again-defends-healthcare-reform-law/comment-page-1/#comment-33181</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Framers like Randolph, Hamilton, Madison, Wilson or even Chief Justice Marshall made clear the power to regulate commerce was the power to prescribe the rules that determined which articles of imports or tonnage were to receive restrictive or prohibitory duties for the purpose of promoting or protecting local manufactures. The power over the states was for remedial purposes to prevent states from taxing neighboring states trade with Congress also prevented from doing the same (congress wasn&#039;t trusted) in regulating commerce among the states via section nine of article one. More here:

http://federalistblog.us/2011/06/no_power_over_interstate_commerce.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Framers like Randolph, Hamilton, Madison, Wilson or even Chief Justice Marshall made clear the power to regulate commerce was the power to prescribe the rules that determined which articles of imports or tonnage were to receive restrictive or prohibitory duties for the purpose of promoting or protecting local manufactures. The power over the states was for remedial purposes to prevent states from taxing neighboring states trade with Congress also prevented from doing the same (congress wasn&#8217;t trusted) in regulating commerce among the states via section nine of article one. More here:</p>
<p><a href="http://federalistblog.us/2011/06/no_power_over_interstate_commerce.html" rel="nofollow">http://federalistblog.us/2011/06/no_power_over_interstate_commerce.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/07/07/california-again-defends-healthcare-reform-law/comment-page-1/#comment-33138</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #5

 
You might be surprised by what SCOTUS does Elwood.  In any event, I anticipate GOP control of both House and Senate and very possibly the WH.  I&#039;ll be doing plenty of venting then, about health care and lots of other stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #5</p>
<p>You might be surprised by what SCOTUS does Elwood.  In any event, I anticipate GOP control of both House and Senate and very possibly the WH.  I&#8217;ll be doing plenty of venting then, about health care and lots of other stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/07/07/california-again-defends-healthcare-reform-law/comment-page-1/#comment-33132</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 19:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ John W

You should save your breath John.

After the Supremes find Obamacare unconstitutional you&#039;ll really need to vent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John W</p>
<p>You should save your breath John.</p>
<p>After the Supremes find Obamacare unconstitutional you&#8217;ll really need to vent.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/07/07/california-again-defends-healthcare-reform-law/comment-page-1/#comment-33125</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 08:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #3  For Liberty

So, let&#039;s see.  If you have employer-sponsored, taxpayer subsidized insurance, you can have a dozen serious pre-existing conditions, the law protects you from being denied coverage or having it rescinded or paying more for it.  If you&#039;re 60, you get coverage for the same rate as a 20-year old.  But if you buy insurance on your own because you are self-employed or don&#039;t have access to an employer plan, you can be denied coverage or charged triple the advertised premium for something as minor as having once used prescription medicine for toenail fungus (I kid you not), or charged more based on age, or have your policy retroactively rescinded if you develop a condition that starts costing the insurer money.  And, unlike employer insurance, you pay for it with after tax dollars.  If you don&#039;t have insurance, either because you choose not to have it, or nobody will sell it to you, your visit to the ER will cost you up to 5 times what the hospital would be paid by an insurance company for the same services.  Does all that sound like &quot;equal rights&quot; to you.  First and foremost, what you folks like to call &quot;ObamaCare&quot; was designed to restructure the dysfunctional individual health insurance market via the insurance exchanges and to give people who depend on that market some of the same protections as people with employer sponsored insurance have.  The preamble to the Constitution says, &quot;...in order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice...and &quot;promote the general Welfare...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #3  For Liberty</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s see.  If you have employer-sponsored, taxpayer subsidized insurance, you can have a dozen serious pre-existing conditions, the law protects you from being denied coverage or having it rescinded or paying more for it.  If you&#8217;re 60, you get coverage for the same rate as a 20-year old.  But if you buy insurance on your own because you are self-employed or don&#8217;t have access to an employer plan, you can be denied coverage or charged triple the advertised premium for something as minor as having once used prescription medicine for toenail fungus (I kid you not), or charged more based on age, or have your policy retroactively rescinded if you develop a condition that starts costing the insurer money.  And, unlike employer insurance, you pay for it with after tax dollars.  If you don&#8217;t have insurance, either because you choose not to have it, or nobody will sell it to you, your visit to the ER will cost you up to 5 times what the hospital would be paid by an insurance company for the same services.  Does all that sound like &#8220;equal rights&#8221; to you.  First and foremost, what you folks like to call &#8220;ObamaCare&#8221; was designed to restructure the dysfunctional individual health insurance market via the insurance exchanges and to give people who depend on that market some of the same protections as people with employer sponsored insurance have.  The preamble to the Constitution says, &#8220;&#8230;in order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice&#8230;and &#8220;promote the general Welfare&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: For Liberty</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/07/07/california-again-defends-healthcare-reform-law/comment-page-1/#comment-33120</link>
		<dc:creator>For Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 03:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE #1:

The proper role of government is to protect equal rights, not provide equal things!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE #1:</p>
<p>The proper role of government is to protect equal rights, not provide equal things!</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I applaud Lars54 for being a cheer leader for the left, and for re-hashing the Democratic talking points every chance possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud Lars54 for being a cheer leader for the left, and for re-hashing the Democratic talking points every chance possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars54</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/07/07/california-again-defends-healthcare-reform-law/comment-page-1/#comment-33089</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 00:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I applaud Kamala Harris for taking this stand, affordable health care for all our citizens is a worthy goal, we must endeavor to provide all Americans with a health plan, somehow, someway. It&#039;s a moral issue, health care is not something that only the wealthy have access to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud Kamala Harris for taking this stand, affordable health care for all our citizens is a worthy goal, we must endeavor to provide all Americans with a health plan, somehow, someway. It&#8217;s a moral issue, health care is not something that only the wealthy have access to.</p>
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