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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/08/01/dissecting-the-debt-ceilingdeficit-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-34279</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have all my money invested in kumquat futures.

A few million more kumquats and I can control the market!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have all my money invested in kumquat futures.</p>
<p>A few million more kumquats and I can control the market!</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/08/01/dissecting-the-debt-ceilingdeficit-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-34257</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #14

Yes, Elwood, you do have lots of company on that point, including critics on Obama&#039;s Left.  But at least some of these people have their own ideas on what they think Obama should be doing about the economy.

As for the markets, yes, I follow them enough so that I reduced my equities to 15% of portfolio before the market dip.  And the market value on my bonds is up about $40k over face value due to diving interest rates. Why do you ask? Need some investing advice?  Buy porkbellies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #14</p>
<p>Yes, Elwood, you do have lots of company on that point, including critics on Obama&#8217;s Left.  But at least some of these people have their own ideas on what they think Obama should be doing about the economy.</p>
<p>As for the markets, yes, I follow them enough so that I reduced my equities to 15% of portfolio before the market dip.  And the market value on my bonds is up about $40k over face value due to diving interest rates. Why do you ask? Need some investing advice?  Buy porkbellies.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/08/01/dissecting-the-debt-ceilingdeficit-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-34255</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: #10

&quot;Why do you bother with...the FAUX News stooges.&quot;

Because

(a) I am, as one commentator put it, &quot;an eternal optometrist,&quot;  that if people with different points of view engage in dialog, eventually they will find at least some common ground;

and (b)it gives me something to do between flossing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #10</p>
<p>&#8220;Why do you bother with&#8230;the FAUX News stooges.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because</p>
<p>(a) I am, as one commentator put it, &#8220;an eternal optometrist,&#8221;  that if people with different points of view engage in dialog, eventually they will find at least some common ground;</p>
<p>and (b)it gives me something to do between flossing.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/08/01/dissecting-the-debt-ceilingdeficit-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-34244</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I have lots of company in my belief that the O&#039;bummer administration is clueless.

Do you follow the financial markets at all?

Dow down 46 at this posting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have lots of company in my belief that the O&#8217;bummer administration is clueless.</p>
<p>Do you follow the financial markets at all?</p>
<p>Dow down 46 at this posting.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/08/01/dissecting-the-debt-ceilingdeficit-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-34233</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, you see, Elwood, you and President Obama have something in common after all.  You believe he has &quot;not a clue.&quot;  And based on #12, neither do you.  How&#039;s the weather up there in the cheap seats?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you see, Elwood, you and President Obama have something in common after all.  You believe he has &#8220;not a clue.&#8221;  And based on #12, neither do you.  How&#8217;s the weather up there in the cheap seats?</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/08/01/dissecting-the-debt-ceilingdeficit-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-34222</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t run, I wasn&#039;t elected, so I don&#039;t have to have a plan.

Neither, apparently, does the O&#039;bummer administration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t run, I wasn&#8217;t elected, so I don&#8217;t have to have a plan.</p>
<p>Neither, apparently, does the O&#8217;bummer administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/08/01/dissecting-the-debt-ceilingdeficit-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-34221</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ toothsucker

Help is available for your problem.

Medication, therapy and long term institutionalization would seem to be indicated.

Someday you might become rational.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ toothsucker</p>
<p>Help is available for your problem.</p>
<p>Medication, therapy and long term institutionalization would seem to be indicated.</p>
<p>Someday you might become rational.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthclubber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthclubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John W -- why do you bother with this ideological handwanking with these FAUX News stooges (Hellwoody and Arr, Arr)?

Don&#039;t you get it by now that they are paid members of the FAUX News &quot;50 Cent Army&quot; merely trolling endlessly on the Rovian &quot;message of the day&quot;, regardless of the pearls of wisdom you might spin?

There is a great scene at the end of the movie &quot;War Games&quot; where the demonic supercomputer finally realizes (after playing to the death every possible thermonuclear war scenario against the Russkies) that &quot;...the only way to win the game...is NOT to play.&quot;

So, my moderate friend -- why do YOU continue to play?

Why not just attack them as the trolls that they are, and eventually force them to find another bridge to hide underneath, as I am doing?

Notice how they despise my very being on this blog, and try (without success) to denigrate me as some imbecile unworthy of the rarified intellectual plane they claim to own?

They have such thin skins -- because they are massively insecure trolls who merely parrot what Rove sends them as the &quot;message du jour&quot; -- so attack them as having no real message -- just &quot;attacking the messenger&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John W &#8212; why do you bother with this ideological handwanking with these FAUX News stooges (Hellwoody and Arr, Arr)?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you get it by now that they are paid members of the FAUX News &#8220;50 Cent Army&#8221; merely trolling endlessly on the Rovian &#8220;message of the day&#8221;, regardless of the pearls of wisdom you might spin?</p>
<p>There is a great scene at the end of the movie &#8220;War Games&#8221; where the demonic supercomputer finally realizes (after playing to the death every possible thermonuclear war scenario against the Russkies) that &#8220;&#8230;the only way to win the game&#8230;is NOT to play.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, my moderate friend &#8212; why do YOU continue to play?</p>
<p>Why not just attack them as the trolls that they are, and eventually force them to find another bridge to hide underneath, as I am doing?</p>
<p>Notice how they despise my very being on this blog, and try (without success) to denigrate me as some imbecile unworthy of the rarified intellectual plane they claim to own?</p>
<p>They have such thin skins &#8212; because they are massively insecure trolls who merely parrot what Rove sends them as the &#8220;message du jour&#8221; &#8212; so attack them as having no real message &#8212; just &#8220;attacking the messenger&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/08/01/dissecting-the-debt-ceilingdeficit-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-34217</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, Elwood, please share your wisdom.  As newly elected President Elwood, sworn in January 20, 2009, you have inherited an economy falling like a rock due to a man-made financial meltdown crisis.  Debt on that day is about $10 trillion, with another trillion or so already &quot;baked in&quot; for your first year in office.  What plans will you be announcing in your inaugural address?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Elwood, please share your wisdom.  As newly elected President Elwood, sworn in January 20, 2009, you have inherited an economy falling like a rock due to a man-made financial meltdown crisis.  Debt on that day is about $10 trillion, with another trillion or so already &#8220;baked in&#8221; for your first year in office.  What plans will you be announcing in your inaugural address?</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/08/01/dissecting-the-debt-ceilingdeficit-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-34212</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not a clue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a clue.</p>
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