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	<title>Comments on: Judge issues temporary order to halt IHSS cuts</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Barajas</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/12/01/judge-issues-temporary-order-to-halt-ihss-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-55043</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Barajas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 03:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im sure the  goverment can find other programs to cut, besides the sick and elderly, those sick people at one time paid there tax&#039;s and paid into or system and laws, and now they are sick and cant fight, the goverment wants to break the disability act laws to balance a budget that they mismanaged, Shame on you California. (Brown) They need to go thru with a fine tooth comb aand cut what is unnessary and fraud, not across the board crap !!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sure the  goverment can find other programs to cut, besides the sick and elderly, those sick people at one time paid there tax&#8217;s and paid into or system and laws, and now they are sick and cant fight, the goverment wants to break the disability act laws to balance a budget that they mismanaged, Shame on you California. (Brown) They need to go thru with a fine tooth comb aand cut what is unnessary and fraud, not across the board crap !!</p>
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		<title>By: RR, Senile Columnist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR, Senile Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 06:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re Betina: Guess you need to arrest the Legislature]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Betina: Guess you need to arrest the Legislature</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/12/01/judge-issues-temporary-order-to-halt-ihss-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-52633</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course the legislature and governor know the cuts will bring profound harm to real people.  And, of course, these people are especially vulnerable, because they don&#039;t have political clout.  But the same could be said of many other programs the government funds. If the government has no money, and the taxpayers aren&#039;t willing to pay more taxes, what&#039;s the government supposed to do?  Presumably, the same harm would be suffered if this program didn&#039;t exist in the first place, which it clearly didn&#039;t at some point.  So, could a court compel the political branches of government to start a program to reduce that harm?  In this case, I can understand a TRO to give the plaintiffs time to make a case without having the services cut off before they do.  But, in the end, I don&#039;t see how a court can order and enforce funding for something when the piggy bank is empty. Would they propose, for example, that we defund the courts in order to free up money to pay for in home services?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the legislature and governor know the cuts will bring profound harm to real people.  And, of course, these people are especially vulnerable, because they don&#8217;t have political clout.  But the same could be said of many other programs the government funds. If the government has no money, and the taxpayers aren&#8217;t willing to pay more taxes, what&#8217;s the government supposed to do?  Presumably, the same harm would be suffered if this program didn&#8217;t exist in the first place, which it clearly didn&#8217;t at some point.  So, could a court compel the political branches of government to start a program to reduce that harm?  In this case, I can understand a TRO to give the plaintiffs time to make a case without having the services cut off before they do.  But, in the end, I don&#8217;t see how a court can order and enforce funding for something when the piggy bank is empty. Would they propose, for example, that we defund the courts in order to free up money to pay for in home services?</p>
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		<title>By: Betina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The key component here is &quot;knowingly&quot;. Government officials KNOW how serious some cases receiving IHSS are. California penal code 368: &quot;Any person (that means ANY, as in government officials hiding behind a cubicle) who, under circumstances or conditions likely to produce great bodily harm or death, willfully causes (by pushing for cuts) or permits (signs the authorization to cut services) any elder or dependent adult, with knowledge that he or she is an elder or a dependent adult, to suffer….or willfully causes or permits the elder or dependent adult TO BE PLACED IN a situation (away from care of family experts who protect him) in which his or her person or HEALTH is endangered (by having IHSS cut from their care and protection) is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison for two, three, or four years....hope these people are ready to face prison time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key component here is &#8220;knowingly&#8221;. Government officials KNOW how serious some cases receiving IHSS are. California penal code 368: &#8220;Any person (that means ANY, as in government officials hiding behind a cubicle) who, under circumstances or conditions likely to produce great bodily harm or death, willfully causes (by pushing for cuts) or permits (signs the authorization to cut services) any elder or dependent adult, with knowledge that he or she is an elder or a dependent adult, to suffer….or willfully causes or permits the elder or dependent adult TO BE PLACED IN a situation (away from care of family experts who protect him) in which his or her person or HEALTH is endangered (by having IHSS cut from their care and protection) is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison for two, three, or four years&#8230;.hope these people are ready to face prison time.</p>
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		<title>By: Betina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please also recall California Penal Code 368. In short, if any government official decides to cut services that a resonable person or persons should know would cause great bodily harm or injury or death to the disabled person by cutting the IHSS services, these government officials should be individually charged and arrested. 

Example, cutting IHSS services for severely-autistic persons who suffer from chronic serious behavioral issues (ie..self-abuse causing bodily harm and which requires 24/7 non stop  protection and care) would most definately jeapordize the disabled citizen&#039;s health and safety. Knowing this, any one individual or group of individuals who actively pursue cutting life perserving services for these citizens should be charged with a crime.  And be sued civilly. CA penal code 368 is no joke. And should be enforced and applied to all those involved in the pervasive attacks on severely disabled persons receiving IHSS under protective supervision clause.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please also recall California Penal Code 368. In short, if any government official decides to cut services that a resonable person or persons should know would cause great bodily harm or injury or death to the disabled person by cutting the IHSS services, these government officials should be individually charged and arrested. </p>
<p>Example, cutting IHSS services for severely-autistic persons who suffer from chronic serious behavioral issues (ie..self-abuse causing bodily harm and which requires 24/7 non stop  protection and care) would most definately jeapordize the disabled citizen&#8217;s health and safety. Knowing this, any one individual or group of individuals who actively pursue cutting life perserving services for these citizens should be charged with a crime.  And be sued civilly. CA penal code 368 is no joke. And should be enforced and applied to all those involved in the pervasive attacks on severely disabled persons receiving IHSS under protective supervision clause.</p>
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