Comments on: What they’re saying about Jerry Brown’s tax plan

By: Truthclubber

Truthclubber — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 04:08:20 +0000

I saw a special on CNBC earlier tonight that chronicled (among other things) how the (police) state of Texas got so tired of paying for being the #1 jailor of people per capita (the GOPers there realized they were going to bankrupt the state with yet more and more prison beds being built).

They did a total 180 and started aggressive rehab/counciling/re-parenting of lower-level inmates to reduce “repeat” visits — and it WORKED! Their expenses per year have dropped several Billion (with a B!) in just three or so years!

Too bad Moonbeam II is too in bed with the prison guard unions who would be hurt by such an approach to try it here in the Gilded State as a way to close a gaping gap in our own budget…

By: Don D.

Don D. — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:50:32 +0000

If Jerry Brown feels the state has enough money to fund illegal alien’s college tuition
then he would be better off barking at the moon then trying to raise our taxes again!
We are fed up with the waste and spend by our politicians in Sacramento. Thank god that the republicans held the line on his last attempt to extend the rediculously high sales tax and veh. fees.

By: RR, Senile Columnist

RR, Senile Columnist — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:54:12 +0000

C’mon people now, smile at your brother an’let’s get together an’ try to tax one another right now

By: Rick K.

Rick K. — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 05:50:41 +0000

Brown is the water boy for his public employee union backers. It’s not a coincidence that Brown introduced the pension reform measure just before he unveiled the tax increase plan. The pension reform plan is just “political cover” for his tax increase scheme. The pension reform plan will go nowhere because Brown’s union puppetmasters want it to fail. The firefighters, prison guards and CHP will not yield on their over-generous 3% at 50 pension scheme (S.B. 400 in 1999, a disastrous legacy of Governor Gray Davis) that is literally bankrupting the State government. The tax increases are necessary to sustain their bloated pensions, so firefighters and CHP officers can retire at age 50 and receive $100,000 per year for life. It’s insulting to ask California citizens to pay more taxes so that fat-posteriored CHP officers, firefighters and prison guards can enjoy lavish retirements. California voters have a duty to vote down Governor Brown’s tax increases unless meaningful pension reform is enacted IMMEDIATELY, not next year, but NOW.

By: John W

John W — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 00:52:15 +0000

All the experts say the state is already overly dependent on high-volatility taxes from upper income people. This will make me sound like a right-winger, but the dirty little secret is that California’s income tax rates on lower range middle income people are too low to generate the revenue we need. The effective tax rate on married/filing jointly with taxable income of $54,754 is only about 2.5%. And that’s on taxable income. The gross income for a couple with that much taxable income is probably more like $70k, which brings the effective tax rate down to less than 2 percent. In Colorado, not considered a high tax state, that couple would pay a flat 4.63% on state-adjusted federal taxable income (after adding back deducted state income taxes).

By: Elwood

Elwood — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 00:45:44 +0000

“The Democratic governor blamed Republicans for blocking a similar tax vote this year. He said Democrats “went ahead and enacted massive cuts and the first honest on-time budget in a decade.” But absent higher taxes, he said the state could not eliminate its ongoing deficit problems.”–SacBee

Jerry Brown is a disgusting liar. An “honest budget”? Funded with magic money? Oh, please!

By: Elwood

Elwood — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 00:39:04 +0000

Well, you know that if Nancy Skinner and Leland Yee are for it, it must be good.

They are two of the finest minds in the legislature.

And don’t forget the typical bushwa from Steinberg and Perez.

My prediction: No tax increase initiative has a snowball’s chance in hell of passing.

By: Truthclubber

Truthclubber — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 00:17:47 +0000

From Truthclubber, registered (and frequent) California voter and taxpayer:

“Cut the $#$%ing spending! You cannot expect us to believe that state government spending that has increased many times faster than the general population over the past 10 years is sustainable!”