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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/01/04/ballot-measure-calls-for-bigger-much-bigger-legislature/comment-page-1/#comment-58680</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 22:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #12

Merging 80 Assembly and 40 Senate seats into one chamber with 120 members would not create &quot;more of those *****.&quot;

The Assembly and Senate districts are too big, both geographically and in terms of the number of people represented.  I&#039;m a Democrat.  But my guess is that Republicans might gain share in a merged legislature made up of smaller districts.  Maybe.  Who knows?

Nebraska has a unicameral and nominally nonpartisan legislature.  Is California (or other states) better governed than Nebraska by having two legislative chambers?

Messy redundancy and purposeful &quot;checks and balances&quot; are not the same thing.  The U.S. Senate reflects the concept of federalism, with each state getting two Senators, regardless of population.  The House, on the other hand, reflects the interests of districts, independent from the states.  For example, Texas may be a red state, but it has some very blue Congressional districts.  The political and legislative dynamics resulting from those differences is what gives us the checks and balances in Congress.

At the intrastate level, the dynamics of federalism and the need for a legislative structure to support that federalism do not apply.  If it did, we would give more power to the counties and give each county two Senators, regardless of population.  Of course, that would not fly under the U.S. Constitution.

Just having two bodies, each representing districts represented on a one man, one vote basis gives us redundancy, not checks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #12</p>
<p>Merging 80 Assembly and 40 Senate seats into one chamber with 120 members would not create &#8220;more of those *****.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Assembly and Senate districts are too big, both geographically and in terms of the number of people represented.  I&#8217;m a Democrat.  But my guess is that Republicans might gain share in a merged legislature made up of smaller districts.  Maybe.  Who knows?</p>
<p>Nebraska has a unicameral and nominally nonpartisan legislature.  Is California (or other states) better governed than Nebraska by having two legislative chambers?</p>
<p>Messy redundancy and purposeful &#8220;checks and balances&#8221; are not the same thing.  The U.S. Senate reflects the concept of federalism, with each state getting two Senators, regardless of population.  The House, on the other hand, reflects the interests of districts, independent from the states.  For example, Texas may be a red state, but it has some very blue Congressional districts.  The political and legislative dynamics resulting from those differences is what gives us the checks and balances in Congress.</p>
<p>At the intrastate level, the dynamics of federalism and the need for a legislative structure to support that federalism do not apply.  If it did, we would give more power to the counties and give each county two Senators, regardless of population.  Of course, that would not fly under the U.S. Constitution.</p>
<p>Just having two bodies, each representing districts represented on a one man, one vote basis gives us redundancy, not checks.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen, Elwood. Re: #10  I disagree with the unicameral legislature concept. We need two houses to serve as an internal check within the legislative branch. Sometimes hare-brained ideas quickly pass either the Assembly or Senate, but are stopped in the other house. Sometimes the legislative bodies are dominated by &quot;bosses&quot; such as Speakers Jesse Unruh and Willie Brown and Senate President Pro Tem John Burton.  Even when the same party has controlled both legislative houses in California, petty personality feuds between leaders have kept bad legislation from passing both houses.  A point to ponder if Democrats get 2/3 of seats in both houses -- the governor will be irrelevant because the Democratic Legislature could override his vetoes. Taxes will be increased so that Democrats can waste your money on ever more lavish public employee union pensions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Elwood. Re: #10  I disagree with the unicameral legislature concept. We need two houses to serve as an internal check within the legislative branch. Sometimes hare-brained ideas quickly pass either the Assembly or Senate, but are stopped in the other house. Sometimes the legislative bodies are dominated by &#8220;bosses&#8221; such as Speakers Jesse Unruh and Willie Brown and Senate President Pro Tem John Burton.  Even when the same party has controlled both legislative houses in California, petty personality feuds between leaders have kept bad legislation from passing both houses.  A point to ponder if Democrats get 2/3 of seats in both houses &#8212; the governor will be irrelevant because the Democratic Legislature could override his vetoes. Taxes will be increased so that Democrats can waste your money on ever more lavish public employee union pensions.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good God, the last thing we need is more of those ********.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good God, the last thing we need is more of those ********.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re:  #9

That would, indeed, be a tad unwieldy.  However, there is a case to be made for more legislators.  Currently, each state senator represents nearly 50% more  constituents than each U.S. House member.  Each assembly member represents roughly a half million people. If we merged the senate and assembly into a single chamber of 120, that would bring the ratio down to a bit more than 300 thousand.  There is no need for a state senate.  It does not serve a purpose comparable to the U.S. Senate -- giving the smallest states the same representation as the largest and generally slowing down flavor-of-the-day legislation.  All the state senate does is duplicate the assembly and screw things up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  #9</p>
<p>That would, indeed, be a tad unwieldy.  However, there is a case to be made for more legislators.  Currently, each state senator represents nearly 50% more  constituents than each U.S. House member.  Each assembly member represents roughly a half million people. If we merged the senate and assembly into a single chamber of 120, that would bring the ratio down to a bit more than 300 thousand.  There is no need for a state senate.  It does not serve a purpose comparable to the U.S. Senate &#8212; giving the smallest states the same representation as the largest and generally slowing down flavor-of-the-day legislation.  All the state senate does is duplicate the assembly and screw things up.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthclubber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthclubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 09:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me see if I have the math right.

A State Assembly of 8,000 people, and a State Senate of 4,000 people.

I want what he&#039;s (the proponent) smokin&#039; -- it&#039;s gooooooooooooood $#i+!

The logistics alone -- where would you hold votes, the Arco Arena?  All in favor, do the wave &quot;right&quot;!  All opposed, do the wave &quot;left&quot;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me see if I have the math right.</p>
<p>A State Assembly of 8,000 people, and a State Senate of 4,000 people.</p>
<p>I want what he&#8217;s (the proponent) smokin&#8217; &#8212; it&#8217;s gooooooooooooood $#i+!</p>
<p>The logistics alone &#8212; where would you hold votes, the Arco Arena?  All in favor, do the wave &#8220;right&#8221;!  All opposed, do the wave &#8220;left&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 21:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re:  #4

Josh, I hope he didn&#039;t move to our fair state just for the purpose of advocating his proposal.  Has about as much chance of getting voter approval and passing court review as High Speed Rail meeting financial projections.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  #4</p>
<p>Josh, I hope he didn&#8217;t move to our fair state just for the purpose of advocating his proposal.  Has about as much chance of getting voter approval and passing court review as High Speed Rail meeting financial projections.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 21:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The time of politicians saying one thing and doing another is coming to an end.&quot;

Sure!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The time of politicians saying one thing and doing another is coming to an end.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure!</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Keller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rick K.: Bingo! The time of politicians saying one thing and doing another is coming to an end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rick K.: Bingo! The time of politicians saying one thing and doing another is coming to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The solution is found in quality, not quantity. Why not do more to hold the existing 120 state legislators accountable?  We, the citizens, should be asking these simple questions: (1) Senate candidate, are you the most qualified person among the 1 million residents in our district? and (2) Assembly candidate, are you the most qualified person among the half million residents of our district?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution is found in quality, not quantity. Why not do more to hold the existing 120 state legislators accountable?  We, the citizens, should be asking these simple questions: (1) Senate candidate, are you the most qualified person among the 1 million residents in our district? and (2) Assembly candidate, are you the most qualified person among the half million residents of our district?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Richman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re #3: Indeed it is; it&#039;s his cell phone. He moved to Rancho Santa Fe early last year, and registered to vote there last May.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re #3: Indeed it is; it&#8217;s his cell phone. He moved to Rancho Santa Fe early last year, and registered to vote there last May.</p>
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