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	<title>Comments on: What I was trying to say about Occupy Oakland</title>
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		<title>By: John W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 03:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elwood kinda beat me to the punch, but my thoughts during the past weekend were that the thug brigade needs to take on a new challenge -- Occupy Damascus.  As for flag burning, Bill Clinton&#039;s comments about abortion come to mind.  &quot;It should be rare, safe and legal.&quot;  Except in the case of the flag burning, I would go with just the rare and legal part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elwood kinda beat me to the punch, but my thoughts during the past weekend were that the thug brigade needs to take on a new challenge &#8212; Occupy Damascus.  As for flag burning, Bill Clinton&#8217;s comments about abortion come to mind.  &#8220;It should be rare, safe and legal.&#8221;  Except in the case of the flag burning, I would go with just the rare and legal part.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;it’s equally clear that support is decreasing now&quot;

That&#039;s because the &quot;movement&quot;, if that&#039;s what it was, has degenerated into thuggery.

It should be renamed &quot;Let&#039;s riot and F with the police&quot;

All that&#039;s left is ragtag anarchist street criminals.  And their commie National Lawyers Guild lawyers of course.  But I repeat myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it’s equally clear that support is decreasing now&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the &#8220;movement&#8221;, if that&#8217;s what it was, has degenerated into thuggery.</p>
<p>It should be renamed &#8220;Let&#8217;s riot and F with the police&#8221;</p>
<p>All that&#8217;s left is ragtag anarchist street criminals.  And their commie National Lawyers Guild lawyers of course.  But I repeat myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Josh,

     I believe that what I wrote is clear and have nothing to add.     Best, Amy L]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Josh,</p>
<p>     I believe that what I wrote is clear and have nothing to add.     Best, Amy L</p>
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		<title>By: RR, Senile Columnist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR, Senile Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 05:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re Sandra Smith: Yes, you&#039;re right. The world (and Uncle Sam) owes these sensitive youth a living, and a nice apartment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Sandra Smith: Yes, you&#8217;re right. The world (and Uncle Sam) owes these sensitive youth a living, and a nice apartment.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Richman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 05:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #8  Amy L.: Whenever someone misunderstands or misquotes what I said or wrote, I try to explain myself and continue the dialogue – that’s why I wrote this post, and why I’m answering your comment now. And it’s part of my job description to enjoy and learn from talking to people of many different viewpoints. (Even you, Elwood.)

What I identify with is immaterial. I’ve been involved in covering Occupy, by necessity, for months; it was clear that many people here in the uber-liberal Bay Area supported the movement and its ideals for some time, and it’s equally clear that support is decreasing now as people become confused about what it stands for. That was part of the discussion on Friday’s show, and I blogged to follow up on that.

Yes, I wish my newspaper had more staff, pay and resources; I think everyone should wish so. More of that means more and better coverage of our communities. A lot of great journalists from my companies and others have lost their jobs in recent years, and I think our coverage suffers for it. But I love my work and am glad to still be doing it after 20 years – I’m a lucky guy.

Not sure how you got from my statements to North Korea, Cuba or (I presume you’re talking about) parts of the Middle East and South Asia. Is this some sort of  “love-it-or-leave-it” logic? And if so, is it directed at me and my industry, or Occupy and the U.S., or both?

Re #9 Elwood: DC sucks. I’m a Marvel guy through and through.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #8  Amy L.: Whenever someone misunderstands or misquotes what I said or wrote, I try to explain myself and continue the dialogue – that’s why I wrote this post, and why I’m answering your comment now. And it’s part of my job description to enjoy and learn from talking to people of many different viewpoints. (Even you, Elwood.)</p>
<p>What I identify with is immaterial. I’ve been involved in covering Occupy, by necessity, for months; it was clear that many people here in the uber-liberal Bay Area supported the movement and its ideals for some time, and it’s equally clear that support is decreasing now as people become confused about what it stands for. That was part of the discussion on Friday’s show, and I blogged to follow up on that.</p>
<p>Yes, I wish my newspaper had more staff, pay and resources; I think everyone should wish so. More of that means more and better coverage of our communities. A lot of great journalists from my companies and others have lost their jobs in recent years, and I think our coverage suffers for it. But I love my work and am glad to still be doing it after 20 years – I’m a lucky guy.</p>
<p>Not sure how you got from my statements to North Korea, Cuba or (I presume you’re talking about) parts of the Middle East and South Asia. Is this some sort of  “love-it-or-leave-it” logic? And if so, is it directed at me and my industry, or Occupy and the U.S., or both?</p>
<p>Re #9 Elwood: DC sucks. I’m a Marvel guy through and through.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 04:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[List of Justice League members
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Justice League is a team of comic book superheroes in the DC Comics Universe. Over the years they have featured a large number of characters in a variety of combinations.

The JLA members are listed here in order of their first joining the team. None are listed twice. No retconned members are listed (except where they historically took part in the stories). No associates and unofficial members, or members of the Super Friends (except when they are also Justice League members in the mainstream comics) are listed.

Non-full members and staff are also listed below.

Characters in bold are current Justice League active members.
[edit] Members

A new Justice League of America was formed following the case entitled The Tornado&#039;s Path. Every hero who participated in the case was offered membership.
Character 	Real name 	Joined in 	Notes
Original team: Justice League of America

These members were featured in the team&#039;s first appearance (The Brave and the Bold (vol. 1) #28, February–March 1960), with the incarnation they founded lasting until the mid-1980s.
Superman 	Clark Kent / Kal-El 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.
Active.
Batman 	Bruce Wayne 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.
Active.
Wonder Woman 	Princess Diana / Diana Prince 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.
Active.
Flash 	Barry Allen 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.
Active.
Green Lantern 	Hal Jordan 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.
Active.
Aquaman 	Arthur Curry 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.
Active 	
Martian Manhunter 	J&#039;onn J&#039;onzz / John Jones 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.
Josh Richman    Josh Richman     BANG
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>List of Justice League members<br />
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>The Justice League is a team of comic book superheroes in the DC Comics Universe. Over the years they have featured a large number of characters in a variety of combinations.</p>
<p>The JLA members are listed here in order of their first joining the team. None are listed twice. No retconned members are listed (except where they historically took part in the stories). No associates and unofficial members, or members of the Super Friends (except when they are also Justice League members in the mainstream comics) are listed.</p>
<p>Non-full members and staff are also listed below.</p>
<p>Characters in bold are current Justice League active members.<br />
[edit] Members</p>
<p>A new Justice League of America was formed following the case entitled The Tornado&#8217;s Path. Every hero who participated in the case was offered membership.<br />
Character 	Real name 	Joined in 	Notes<br />
Original team: Justice League of America</p>
<p>These members were featured in the team&#8217;s first appearance (The Brave and the Bold (vol. 1) #28, February–March 1960), with the incarnation they founded lasting until the mid-1980s.<br />
Superman 	Clark Kent / Kal-El 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.<br />
Active.<br />
Batman 	Bruce Wayne 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.<br />
Active.<br />
Wonder Woman 	Princess Diana / Diana Prince 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.<br />
Active.<br />
Flash 	Barry Allen 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.<br />
Active.<br />
Green Lantern 	Hal Jordan 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.<br />
Active.<br />
Aquaman 	Arthur Curry 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.<br />
Active<br />
Martian Manhunter 	J&#8217;onn J&#8217;onzz / John Jones 	The Brave and the Bold #28 	Founding member.<br />
Josh Richman    Josh Richman     BANG<br />
Active</p>
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		<title>By: Amy L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Josh,

    Your concern for those you&#039;ve &quot;offended&quot; is puzzling. Why are you so eager to explain yourself to representatives of &quot;the movement&quot;?  The statement that you &quot;enjoy and learn from&quot; the tired cliches recycled here by OccupyDavis, marg1nal and Dylan20, is kinda scary.  Apparently you identify with the notion of eliminating &quot;economic injustice&quot;, whatever that means.  You whine about wanting more:  more staff, more pay, more resources.  Guess what?  You&#039;re not serving a life sentence at the &quot;enormous media corporation&quot;.  Nor are you starving in the gulag that is North Korea.  Or languishing in a Cuban dungeon because you had a lending library in your home.  Or sentenced to death by stoning on charges of &quot;adultery&quot; brought by religious police.  Okay, I get that your beat is Bay Area politics, but you&#039;re the one invoking ideas (economic injustice, property rights, &quot;lasting&quot; social movements).  You can because, and only because, you&#039;re free to do so.  You also are free to use your own time, energy and resources to fight &quot;injustice&quot;.  PS drinking beer with Occupy Davis doesn&#039;t count.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Josh,</p>
<p>    Your concern for those you&#8217;ve &#8220;offended&#8221; is puzzling. Why are you so eager to explain yourself to representatives of &#8220;the movement&#8221;?  The statement that you &#8220;enjoy and learn from&#8221; the tired cliches recycled here by OccupyDavis, marg1nal and Dylan20, is kinda scary.  Apparently you identify with the notion of eliminating &#8220;economic injustice&#8221;, whatever that means.  You whine about wanting more:  more staff, more pay, more resources.  Guess what?  You&#8217;re not serving a life sentence at the &#8220;enormous media corporation&#8221;.  Nor are you starving in the gulag that is North Korea.  Or languishing in a Cuban dungeon because you had a lending library in your home.  Or sentenced to death by stoning on charges of &#8220;adultery&#8221; brought by religious police.  Okay, I get that your beat is Bay Area politics, but you&#8217;re the one invoking ideas (economic injustice, property rights, &#8220;lasting&#8221; social movements).  You can because, and only because, you&#8217;re free to do so.  You also are free to use your own time, energy and resources to fight &#8220;injustice&#8221;.  PS drinking beer with Occupy Davis doesn&#8217;t count.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What do our kids need to do to get similar consideration?&quot;

Move to Syria.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What do our kids need to do to get similar consideration?&#8221;</p>
<p>Move to Syria.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A society which can&#039;t find gainful employment or affordable housing for its young people, and makes college or other training available only to forelgn students who can pay the huge tuition necessary to pay massive administrative costs, does not deserve to exist without massive noise and disruption.  US wants the UN to change the regime in Syria.  What do our kids need to do to get similar consideration?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A society which can&#8217;t find gainful employment or affordable housing for its young people, and makes college or other training available only to forelgn students who can pay the huge tuition necessary to pay massive administrative costs, does not deserve to exist without massive noise and disruption.  US wants the UN to change the regime in Syria.  What do our kids need to do to get similar consideration?</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 03:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;On the Occupy Oakland website, information about a protest scheduled to start at 7 p.m. Saturday discourages peaceful protesters from participating.

The website says, &quot;It is not a march intended for people who are not fully comfortable with diversity of tactics.&quot;

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/opd-prepares-another-potentially-violent-occupy-pr/nHTJZ/k

Clean up downtown, eh?  Bullpucky!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On the Occupy Oakland website, information about a protest scheduled to start at 7 p.m. Saturday discourages peaceful protesters from participating.</p>
<p>The website says, &#8220;It is not a march intended for people who are not fully comfortable with diversity of tactics.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/opd-prepares-another-potentially-violent-occupy-pr/nHTJZ/k" rel="nofollow">http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/opd-prepares-another-potentially-violent-occupy-pr/nHTJZ/k</a></p>
<p>Clean up downtown, eh?  Bullpucky!</p>
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