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	<title>Comments on: Judge poised to nix attack on &#8216;top-two&#8217; primary</title>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 05:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ #13 toothsucker

Oh, goodie, it&#039;s time for the Friday night follies again.

The cooking sherry has destroyed your brain.
Obviously, you&#039;re surviving without a brain but the next thing it will destroy will be your liver and you can&#039;t survive without a liver.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #13 toothsucker</p>
<p>Oh, goodie, it&#8217;s time for the Friday night follies again.</p>
<p>The cooking sherry has destroyed your brain.<br />
Obviously, you&#8217;re surviving without a brain but the next thing it will destroy will be your liver and you can&#8217;t survive without a liver.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthclubber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthclubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@8 -- into the cooking sherry yourself, eh Hellwoody?  Guess all that prison work had its side effects...and now (with @12) you&#039;re sucking Jean Quan?  Oh, my -- what that sherry does to you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@8 &#8212; into the cooking sherry yourself, eh Hellwoody?  Guess all that prison work had its side effects&#8230;and now (with @12) you&#8217;re sucking Jean Quan?  Oh, my &#8212; what that sherry does to you!</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Top two, ranked choice, whatever.

They both suck.

Jean Quan, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top two, ranked choice, whatever.</p>
<p>They both suck.</p>
<p>Jean Quan, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Josh.  Your post showed up while I was sending mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Josh.  Your post showed up while I was sending mine.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ 8  Elwood

Oakland and SF have instant run-off a/k/a ranked choice, not Top Two.  If Oakland had had top two, Perata and one other candidate would have emerged from a primary to face off in the general election.  Perata got the most &quot;first choice&quot; votes but still lost.  My guess is that Perata would have won in a runoff election.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 8  Elwood</p>
<p>Oakland and SF have instant run-off a/k/a ranked choice, not Top Two.  If Oakland had had top two, Perata and one other candidate would have emerged from a primary to face off in the general election.  Perata got the most &#8220;first choice&#8221; votes but still lost.  My guess is that Perata would have won in a runoff election.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Richman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#8 No, Elwood, it was Oakland&#039;s ranked-choice voting system in which Quan won, not a top-two. (In fact, the city previously had used top-two because the mayor&#039;s office is nonpartisan.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8 No, Elwood, it was Oakland&#8217;s ranked-choice voting system in which Quan won, not a top-two. (In fact, the city previously had used top-two because the mayor&#8217;s office is nonpartisan.)</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Top two has worked out well in Oakland.

It gave them the wonderful Mayor Jean Quan, the target of not one but two recall drives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top two has worked out well in Oakland.</p>
<p>It gave them the wonderful Mayor Jean Quan, the target of not one but two recall drives.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@6 For Liberty

As you say, we&#039;ll see how it plays out.

 Hopefully, with the combination of redistricting, the open primary and the &quot;top two,&quot; we will get (a) greater voter participation in the primaries; (b) general election candidates who aren&#039;t beholden to the extreme base of their respective parties and (c) more general election races that are truly competitive, rather than being just a formality to anoint the winner of the primary of whichever party dominates a district. 

As for the minor parties, the current system serves mainly to set them up as potential spoilers (Ross Perot in 1992 and Ralph Nader in 2000) rather than as potential election winners.  Arguably, the new system increases chances that the final two might include one major and one minor party candidate.  Minor party candidates  need to figure out how to game the system to make that happen.  If a minor party or independent candidate does make the final two, chances of actually getting elected increase, since they will then be in a one-on-one race.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@6 For Liberty</p>
<p>As you say, we&#8217;ll see how it plays out.</p>
<p> Hopefully, with the combination of redistricting, the open primary and the &#8220;top two,&#8221; we will get (a) greater voter participation in the primaries; (b) general election candidates who aren&#8217;t beholden to the extreme base of their respective parties and (c) more general election races that are truly competitive, rather than being just a formality to anoint the winner of the primary of whichever party dominates a district. </p>
<p>As for the minor parties, the current system serves mainly to set them up as potential spoilers (Ross Perot in 1992 and Ralph Nader in 2000) rather than as potential election winners.  Arguably, the new system increases chances that the final two might include one major and one minor party candidate.  Minor party candidates  need to figure out how to game the system to make that happen.  If a minor party or independent candidate does make the final two, chances of actually getting elected increase, since they will then be in a one-on-one race.</p>
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		<title>By: For Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>For Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prop.  14 could result in a train wreck!!  We&#039;ll see how it will play out.  The minor parties have a strong and valid complaint, as they will not have any representation in the general election.  I believe the intent of this proposition was sold to CA voters to even the playing field, when I believe it could do the opposite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prop.  14 could result in a train wreck!!  We&#8217;ll see how it will play out.  The minor parties have a strong and valid complaint, as they will not have any representation in the general election.  I believe the intent of this proposition was sold to CA voters to even the playing field, when I believe it could do the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: steve weir</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve weir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#A2. I&#039;m doing this from memory (always risky).

I believe that SB 6 (Top Two Primary) puts political central committees into the Constitution.

Will confirm, modify, or retract on Tuesday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#A2. I&#8217;m doing this from memory (always risky).</p>
<p>I believe that SB 6 (Top Two Primary) puts political central committees into the Constitution.</p>
<p>Will confirm, modify, or retract on Tuesday.</p>
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