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	<title>Comments on: California GOP to pursue a voter ID initiative</title>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/07/23/california-gop-to-pursue-a-voter-id-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-85447</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 00:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re:  13

Would you like to place a wager that the number is closer to 0 than to 758K?  If the number is 379k or lower, you win.  380k or higher I win.  To quote Mitt Romney, &quot;I&#039;ll bet you ten thousand dollars on that.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  13</p>
<p>Would you like to place a wager that the number is closer to 0 than to 758K?  If the number is 379k or lower, you win.  380k or higher I win.  To quote Mitt Romney, &#8220;I&#8217;ll bet you ten thousand dollars on that.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“up to” includes any number from 0 to 758k.

&quot;DOJ has requested all these data bases so that further analysis can be performed.&quot;

I will sleep better knowing that Eric Holder will protect the black vote, including voter intimidation by the New Black Panthers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“up to” includes any number from 0 to 758k.</p>
<p>&#8220;DOJ has requested all these data bases so that further analysis can be performed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I will sleep better knowing that Eric Holder will protect the black vote, including voter intimidation by the New Black Panthers.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re:  #11

Elwood, the numbers come from the Pennsylvania Secretary of the Commonwealth (like CA Sec. of State), from a comparison of the data base of the state&#039;s 8.2 million voters and the PennDot ID data base.  The numbers are NOT exact, because the Secretary stated that &quot;up to&quot; 758 thousand voters (9.2%) lacked PennDot ID.

A similar comparison for just Philadelphia indicated that up to 186,830 registered voters (18%) lacked PennDot ID there.  They noted that about 50,000 of those are not active voters, so 18% is on the high side if you base the analysis on active voters, not just registered voters.  But the numbers are still big, even if you leave inactives out of the analysis.  That&#039;s why the state GOP chairman boasted on video that passing the Voter ID law would enable Romney to win the state and the White House.

DOJ has requested all these data bases so that further analysis can be performed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  #11</p>
<p>Elwood, the numbers come from the Pennsylvania Secretary of the Commonwealth (like CA Sec. of State), from a comparison of the data base of the state&#8217;s 8.2 million voters and the PennDot ID data base.  The numbers are NOT exact, because the Secretary stated that &#8220;up to&#8221; 758 thousand voters (9.2%) lacked PennDot ID.</p>
<p>A similar comparison for just Philadelphia indicated that up to 186,830 registered voters (18%) lacked PennDot ID there.  They noted that about 50,000 of those are not active voters, so 18% is on the high side if you base the analysis on active voters, not just registered voters.  But the numbers are still big, even if you leave inactives out of the analysis.  That&#8217;s why the state GOP chairman boasted on video that passing the Voter ID law would enable Romney to win the state and the White House.</p>
<p>DOJ has requested all these data bases so that further analysis can be performed.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;there are roughly 800 thousand legally qualified voters (not first time voters) in Pennsylvania who do not have the photo ID that would be required.&quot;

It would be fascinating to see how they arrived at that number.

It sounds to me like somebody pulled it out of his ***.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there are roughly 800 thousand legally qualified voters (not first time voters) in Pennsylvania who do not have the photo ID that would be required.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be fascinating to see how they arrived at that number.</p>
<p>It sounds to me like somebody pulled it out of his ***.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve Montgomery is mistaken in saying Voter ID laws are a solution looking for a problem.  That would be like passing a law against spitting on the sidewalk.  This is intentional, carefully crafted voter suppression designed to change the outcome of close elections.  

My understanding is that there are roughly 800 thousand legally qualified voters (not first time voters) in Pennsylvania who do not have the photo ID that would be required.  Naturally, those voters are heavily concentrated in Philadelphia, which leans heavily Democratic.  Imagine showing up at the polling place where you have faithfully voted for years, where everybody knows who you are and being told now you can&#039;t vote.

ACLU and others have filed suit.  And it is reported today that the defenders have stipulated that there have been no investigations, let alone actual charges regarding voter fraud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Montgomery is mistaken in saying Voter ID laws are a solution looking for a problem.  That would be like passing a law against spitting on the sidewalk.  This is intentional, carefully crafted voter suppression designed to change the outcome of close elections.  </p>
<p>My understanding is that there are roughly 800 thousand legally qualified voters (not first time voters) in Pennsylvania who do not have the photo ID that would be required.  Naturally, those voters are heavily concentrated in Philadelphia, which leans heavily Democratic.  Imagine showing up at the polling place where you have faithfully voted for years, where everybody knows who you are and being told now you can&#8217;t vote.</p>
<p>ACLU and others have filed suit.  And it is reported today that the defenders have stipulated that there have been no investigations, let alone actual charges regarding voter fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Weir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Weir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the back of your California Driver&#039;s License:

&quot;This License is issued as a license to drive a motor vehicle.  It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration,or public benefits.&quot;

Ironically, you are required to provide your Driver License number when you register.  We check your voter registration against DMV records.  If you do not have a Calif. ID, you must provide your last for digits on your SSA card and we check your info. against SSA.  If you have neither, the State issues you a unique identifier.  This allows the statewide voter registration database to track you in all 58 counties. If you are a first time voter and have not provided any of the ID required information, you must show ID at the polls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the back of your California Driver&#8217;s License:</p>
<p>&#8220;This License is issued as a license to drive a motor vehicle.  It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration,or public benefits.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ironically, you are required to provide your Driver License number when you register.  We check your voter registration against DMV records.  If you do not have a Calif. ID, you must provide your last for digits on your SSA card and we check your info. against SSA.  If you have neither, the State issues you a unique identifier.  This allows the statewide voter registration database to track you in all 58 counties. If you are a first time voter and have not provided any of the ID required information, you must show ID at the polls.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Montgomery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Voter ID laws are a solution looking for a problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voter ID laws are a solution looking for a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never mind the fact you need an ID to: 
buy alcohol, purchase insurance, drive a car, buy or rent a home, enter many offices and govt buildings, travel by plane, sign up and receive social security, medicare, food stamps, and other government programs, enter the country (legally), etc...  The list goes on and on.  

The only who oppose having an ID are those who abuse the system. 70% of the public supports having an ID and this policy will win.  

Thank God someone actually wants to allow a benefit to those who follow the law instaed of the those who continue to benefit by breaking them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind the fact you need an ID to:<br />
buy alcohol, purchase insurance, drive a car, buy or rent a home, enter many offices and govt buildings, travel by plane, sign up and receive social security, medicare, food stamps, and other government programs, enter the country (legally), etc&#8230;  The list goes on and on.  </p>
<p>The only who oppose having an ID are those who abuse the system. 70% of the public supports having an ID and this policy will win.  </p>
<p>Thank God someone actually wants to allow a benefit to those who follow the law instaed of the those who continue to benefit by breaking them.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen L Weir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen L Weir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 04:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Del Beccaro said Fund’s new book “focuses on the problems that weaken our election processes, from voter fraud to a slipshod system of vote counting … And it proposes solutions.”

How amazingly offensive...oh wait, is this the party that sued Contra Costa 20 months ago (aka political publicity stunt) over challenging legitimate voters who voted by mail, and quietly dropped their high profile law suit when the County filed for summary judgement to stop their nonsense?

You have both parties in Congress to thank, and President Bush for signing the &quot;Help America Vote Act&quot; in 2002 for today&#039;s voting systems.  Not perfect, but certainly not a slipshot voting system, neither in Contra Costa nor in California. 

p.s., voter registration fraud is squarely in the hands of the political parties who pay bounties for voter registration, how about knocking that proven fraudulent prone system out?

Stephen L. Weir, Registrar of Voters, Contra Costa County.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Del Beccaro said Fund’s new book “focuses on the problems that weaken our election processes, from voter fraud to a slipshod system of vote counting … And it proposes solutions.”</p>
<p>How amazingly offensive&#8230;oh wait, is this the party that sued Contra Costa 20 months ago (aka political publicity stunt) over challenging legitimate voters who voted by mail, and quietly dropped their high profile law suit when the County filed for summary judgement to stop their nonsense?</p>
<p>You have both parties in Congress to thank, and President Bush for signing the &#8220;Help America Vote Act&#8221; in 2002 for today&#8217;s voting systems.  Not perfect, but certainly not a slipshot voting system, neither in Contra Costa nor in California. </p>
<p>p.s., voter registration fraud is squarely in the hands of the political parties who pay bounties for voter registration, how about knocking that proven fraudulent prone system out?</p>
<p>Stephen L. Weir, Registrar of Voters, Contra Costa County.</p>
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		<title>By: chico</title>
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		<dc:creator>chico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 02:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope it includes a provision that fines Political Parties that pay Voter Bounties to Contractors who change peoples party on their completed Reg Forms]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope it includes a provision that fines Political Parties that pay Voter Bounties to Contractors who change peoples party on their completed Reg Forms</p>
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