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Newest TV ads from Obama and Romney

By Josh Richman
Thursday, August 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am in 2012 presidential election, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Mitt Romney.

President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign today rolled out an ad featuring former President Bill Clinton:

“Clear Choice” will air in New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado and Nevada.

Meanwhile, Mitt Romney’s campaign launched its latest ad yesterday:

FactCheck.org hasn’t done an analysis of either ad yet, though it did post an extensive rundown on the competing claims about Medicare, including this observation:

A Romney campaign ad wrongly claims that “money you paid” for Medicare is being used to pay for Obama’s health care law. But the law doesn’t take money out of the existing hospital insurance trust fund. It cuts the future growth of spending. And in the future, seniors will still receive more in benefits than they paid in.

PolitiFact has its own rundown on Medicare as well.

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  • Elwood

    Always good to hear from BJ Bill.

    He’ll never have the decency to just fade away, will he?

  • JAFO

    So, the dems are really rolling out an impeached former president who was also disbarred for lying to a grand jury regarding one of his countless, well-documented dalliances with the opposite sex; the same former president who once counted among his trusted campaign staffers a woman whose sole responsibilty was to try to contain what she and her colleagues dirrisively labelled “bimbo eruptions;” the same former president who a key campaign adviser, James Carville, famously dismissed one of his employer’s credible accusers by sneering, “You never know what you’re going to attract when you drag a ten dollar bill through a trailer park.” And the dems have the chuptzah to accuse the repubs of engaging in a so-callled “war on women.” Amazing! Bill Clinton was, and may still be, a one-man army.

  • JohnW

    “He’ll never have the decency to just fade away…”

    Not while he has 66% favorability rating, including 62% among independents and 44% even among Republicans. 63% among women, 68% among men.

    Favorability rating for other former presidents:

    George. H.W. Bush 59%
    Jimmy Carter 54%
    George W. Bush 43%

  • Elwood

    How’s his favorability rating among women he molested.?

    How’s that coming along?

  • JAFO

    Dems pride themselves on being unqualified supporters of “all” women and minorities, just so long as they are the right kind of women and minorities. For instance, none of Bill Clinton’s female detractors (aka, victims), Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Marco Rubio, Clarence Thomas, etc. make the “unqualified” cut.

  • Publius

    Cigar anyone?

  • JohnW

    Re #5

    Dems do NOT pride themselves on being unqualified supporters of “all” women and minorities. They oppose the conservatives you mentioned on many issues.

    What Dems pride themselves on is championing causes of importance to women and minorities. Without Title IX, there probably would not have been a women’s high school championship basketball team for “Sarah Barracuda” to play on. The Civil Rights movement (supported by liberals and moderates of both parties and opposed by Dixiecrats who became Republicans) benefitted all blacks, regardless of their political persuasion.

  • Elwood

    “According to Congressional Quarterly, the Civil Rights Act of 1964
    passed the House 290-130, and Republican support for the bill was much
    stronger than Democratic: 61 percent (152-96) of the Democrats
    supported the legislation while 80 percent (138-34) of the Republicans
    backed it. These numbers were similar in the Senate — 69 percent of
    Democrats (46-21), backed the bill along with 82 percent of
    Republicans (27-6).”

    http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/07/17/rights/

    Not much there for the dimmiecrats to be proud of. But they’ve done a really good job of selling it, portraying themselves as the saviors of the poor downtrodden minorities.

  • JohnW

    Stats don’t tell the story. Geography does. I’m pretty sure you know that.

    In today’s Congress, Democrats (with few seats left in the Confederate states) would vote overwhelmingly for the bill; and Republicans (North and South) would vote overwhelmingly against. The father of the conservative movement, Barry Goldwater, voted against.

    The law was initiated by Kennedy and ramrodded through by Johnson. Yes, Republican Senators Dirksen-IL and Kuchel-CA rounded up the Republican votes to get over the hump. I don’t know about Kuchel, but LBJ applied plenty of Johnson style persuasion to get Dirksen on board. Somehow, LBJ persuaded Dixiecrat Richard Russell to back off the filibuster.

    In the 11 Confederate states, Dems voted 87 to 7 against in the House, and Republicans voted 10 to zip against. Outside the Confederacy, Dems voted 145 to 9 for, and Republicans voted 138 to 24 for. In other words, nearly all the opposition outside the Confederate states came from Republicans.

    Similar story in the Senate. Confederate state Dems voted 20 to 1 against, and Republicans voted 1 to zip against. Outside the Confderacy, Dems voted 45 to 1 for, and Republicans voted 27 to 5 for.

    Passage led to Republicans taking control of the South and Nixon’s Southern Strategy. The Dixiecrats all became Republicans or were replaced by Republicans.

  • Elwood

    You can massage them all you want, but the numbers are still the numbers. Higher percentages of Republicans than Democrats voted for the bill.

    Nice try at revisionist history though.

  • JohnW

    “The numbers are still the numbers.”

    Okay, if you insist.

    Outside the 11 Confederate states, 94% of House Dems and 98% of Senate Dems voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. For Republicans, it was 85% in the House and 84% in the Senate. 73% of the House votes against and and 83% of the Senate votes against in the non-Confederate states were Republican.

    In the Confederate states, there were only 10 House Republicans and 1 Senate Republican voting. But they voted unanimously against the act. At least there were a few Democrats in the Confederate states who voted for the act.

    MLK and his father, and many other blacks in Dixie, were probably Republicans before 1960. But Republicans became the new Dixiecrats after LBJ knowingly gave away the South in order to get civil rights legislation passed. Today, it is Republicans, with their Voter ID and early voting shenanigans, who are working hard to keep down the voter turnout in places like Philadelphia and Cleveland.

  • Truthclubber

    @10 –

    “The numbers are still the numbers.”

    Oh, yeah, babie — you are SO right!

    1) 74 days to go, and
    2) It’s still O’bammy 302, Mittens 235″ and that assumes Floridians vote for Mittens’ new “kill dat Medicare” budget program, which dey ain’t gonna do.