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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/10/15/delving-into-race-issues-for-election-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-97595</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 01:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Latest on Libya (Saturday about 12 Noon) from ABC OTUS News:

Quoting:

The latest intelligence assessment of the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi indicates there was little if any pre-planning for it and that it was in part an opportunistic response to the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo [which were about the video].

&quot;Right now,there isn&#039;t any intelligence that the attackers pre-planned their assault days or weeks in advance,&quot; said a U.S. intelligence official.  &quot;The bulk of available information supports the early assessment that the attackers launched their assault opportunistically after they learned about the violence at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.&quot;

What?  You mean U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice and the administration spoke truthfully?  Based on available intelligence information at the time -- that turns out to have been accurate?  Horrors.  Mitt will need a rewrite of his Benghazi talking points for Monday night&#039;s foreign policy debate.  Or we could just move on and talk about other important foreign policy matters.

But, if Mitt really wants to talk about Benghazi, perhaps we could get back to why he shot off his mouth while the protests in Cairo were still underway.  Or why Rep. Issa&#039;s committee released intelligence reports including the names of Libyans working covertly with the U.S.?  Or why Paul Ryan cut the State Department embassy security budget by $300 million.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latest on Libya (Saturday about 12 Noon) from ABC OTUS News:</p>
<p>Quoting:</p>
<p>The latest intelligence assessment of the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi indicates there was little if any pre-planning for it and that it was in part an opportunistic response to the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo [which were about the video].</p>
<p>&#8220;Right now,there isn&#8217;t any intelligence that the attackers pre-planned their assault days or weeks in advance,&#8221; said a U.S. intelligence official.  &#8220;The bulk of available information supports the early assessment that the attackers launched their assault opportunistically after they learned about the violence at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.&#8221;</p>
<p>What?  You mean U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice and the administration spoke truthfully?  Based on available intelligence information at the time &#8212; that turns out to have been accurate?  Horrors.  Mitt will need a rewrite of his Benghazi talking points for Monday night&#8217;s foreign policy debate.  Or we could just move on and talk about other important foreign policy matters.</p>
<p>But, if Mitt really wants to talk about Benghazi, perhaps we could get back to why he shot off his mouth while the protests in Cairo were still underway.  Or why Rep. Issa&#8217;s committee released intelligence reports including the names of Libyans working covertly with the U.S.?  Or why Paul Ryan cut the State Department embassy security budget by $300 million.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/10/15/delving-into-race-issues-for-election-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-96144</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hillary&#039;s statement has been grossly distorted.  All she&#039;s saying is the obvious.  That, as Secretary of State, she is ultimately responsible for embassy security.  That&#039;s not the same as saying &quot;it&#039;s my fault.&quot; 

Interestingly, she made these same comments several days ago during an interview with the Wall Street Journal.  They chose not to report that.  It obviously didn&#039;t fit in with their narrative that Obama somehow screwed up. 

Frankly, I see this as a &quot;no fault&quot; situation.  It&#039;s a dangerous world out there, and bad stuff happens.  The regional security officer who testified has already said that, even if all requested security assets had been in place, the outcome probably would have been the same.  Being Ambassador to a country like Libya is not the same as being the Ambassador to the Court of St. James.  Ambassador Stevens was fully aware of that.

To suggest that Hillary is being thrown under the proverbial bus is crazy.  She has absolutely no reason to be party to that.  She&#039;s already planning to leave in January, regardless of who wins the White House.  She may or may not run in 2016.  But she is hardly to type to let anybody throw her under the bus -- Obama or anybody else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary&#8217;s statement has been grossly distorted.  All she&#8217;s saying is the obvious.  That, as Secretary of State, she is ultimately responsible for embassy security.  That&#8217;s not the same as saying &#8220;it&#8217;s my fault.&#8221; </p>
<p>Interestingly, she made these same comments several days ago during an interview with the Wall Street Journal.  They chose not to report that.  It obviously didn&#8217;t fit in with their narrative that Obama somehow screwed up. </p>
<p>Frankly, I see this as a &#8220;no fault&#8221; situation.  It&#8217;s a dangerous world out there, and bad stuff happens.  The regional security officer who testified has already said that, even if all requested security assets had been in place, the outcome probably would have been the same.  Being Ambassador to a country like Libya is not the same as being the Ambassador to the Court of St. James.  Ambassador Stevens was fully aware of that.</p>
<p>To suggest that Hillary is being thrown under the proverbial bus is crazy.  She has absolutely no reason to be party to that.  She&#8217;s already planning to leave in January, regardless of who wins the White House.  She may or may not run in 2016.  But she is hardly to type to let anybody throw her under the bus &#8212; Obama or anybody else.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthclubber</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/10/15/delving-into-race-issues-for-election-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-96136</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthclubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@5 -- It took you THAT long to see that coming?  I told my spouse that (&quot;Hillary, meet bus.  Bus, Hillary.&quot;) the moment I heard Joey Bid-a-wee state that &quot;we knew nothing about security needs&quot; during last week&#039;s debate.

Geez, talk about S-L-O-W.

Truth be told, it WAS her responsibility -- why do you think she&#039;s been sooooooo quiet and out of sight (until yesterday) on this most precious subject?  Because she KNOWS that SHE screwed up, BIG time, and until now she and Bubba were hoping it would blow over and not damage her for 2016, and O&#039;Bammy was also hoping it would, so his relationship with &quot;Bubba the Wonder Campaigner&quot; would not sour with a mere three weeks left to the finish line.

Bid-a-wee&#039;s having to dodge a literal silver howitzer shell last week in public with millions watching was the final straw (and I&#039;m sure HE had words with O&#039;Bammy afterward) -- she takes what was hers to take all along (one for the team) and drops in credibility, whil Bid-a-wee gets elevated in their own race against each other in 2016.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@5 &#8212; It took you THAT long to see that coming?  I told my spouse that (&#8220;Hillary, meet bus.  Bus, Hillary.&#8221;) the moment I heard Joey Bid-a-wee state that &#8220;we knew nothing about security needs&#8221; during last week&#8217;s debate.</p>
<p>Geez, talk about S-L-O-W.</p>
<p>Truth be told, it WAS her responsibility &#8212; why do you think she&#8217;s been sooooooo quiet and out of sight (until yesterday) on this most precious subject?  Because she KNOWS that SHE screwed up, BIG time, and until now she and Bubba were hoping it would blow over and not damage her for 2016, and O&#8217;Bammy was also hoping it would, so his relationship with &#8220;Bubba the Wonder Campaigner&#8221; would not sour with a mere three weeks left to the finish line.</p>
<p>Bid-a-wee&#8217;s having to dodge a literal silver howitzer shell last week in public with millions watching was the final straw (and I&#8217;m sure HE had words with O&#8217;Bammy afterward) &#8212; she takes what was hers to take all along (one for the team) and drops in credibility, whil Bid-a-wee gets elevated in their own race against each other in 2016.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 04:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to the Sunday NYT, the additional security that had been requested (actually an extension of the security already in place) wasn&#039;t even for Benghazi.  It was for the embassy in Tripoli, 400 miles away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Sunday NYT, the additional security that had been requested (actually an extension of the security already in place) wasn&#8217;t even for Benghazi.  It was for the embassy in Tripoli, 400 miles away.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/10/15/delving-into-race-issues-for-election-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-95985</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 03:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi ho, hi ho, it&#039;s under the bus she goes!  Poor Hil is being sacrificed to save the chosen one.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/clinton-tells-cnn-responsibility-libya-attack-010005118.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ho, hi ho, it&#8217;s under the bus she goes!  Poor Hil is being sacrificed to save the chosen one.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/clinton-tells-cnn-responsibility-libya-attack-010005118.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/clinton-tells-cnn-responsibility-libya-attack-010005118.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Truthclubber</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/10/15/delving-into-race-issues-for-election-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-95955</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthclubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@2 --

You mean &lt;a href=&quot;http://thegrio.com/2012/10/14/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house-t-shirt-spotted-at-romney-rally-goes-viral/#s:offensive-anti-obama-tshirt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this guy?&lt;/a&gt;

Kinda looks like &quot;som&lt;b&gt;e&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;l&lt;/b&gt;owlife &lt;b&gt;w&lt;/b&gt;h&lt;b&gt;o&lt;/b&gt; bl&lt;b&gt;o&lt;/b&gt;gs here a &lt;b&gt;d&lt;/b&gt;arn lot&quot; from the back, don&#039;t you think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@2 &#8211;</p>
<p>You mean <a href="http://thegrio.com/2012/10/14/put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house-t-shirt-spotted-at-romney-rally-goes-viral/#s:offensive-anti-obama-tshirt" rel="nofollow">this guy?</a></p>
<p>Kinda looks like &#8220;som<b>e</b> <b>l</b>owlife <b>w</b>h<b>o</b> bl<b>o</b>gs here a <b>d</b>arn lot&#8221; from the back, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/10/15/delving-into-race-issues-for-election-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-95943</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“We hope debate moderator Candy Crowley and town hall participants will borrow some of our questions and press both candidates for real answers about poverty, the racial wealth gap and growing divisions in our country.”

Don&#039;t hold your breath.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We hope debate moderator Candy Crowley and town hall participants will borrow some of our questions and press both candidates for real answers about poverty, the racial wealth gap and growing divisions in our country.”</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hold your breath.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/10/15/delving-into-race-issues-for-election-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-95935</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a picture online of a middle-age, shaved-headed man at a campaign event in Ohio.  He wore a blue t-shirt with a Romney-Ryan decal on the back.  Stenciled underneath in huge letters:  PUT THE WHITE BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

Romney campaign people condemned it, as would the overwhelming majority of people who identify as Republicans.  Still, the fact that such creeps are somehow attracted to the GOP won&#039;t make it any easier for the GOP to broaden its appeal to the emerging non-white majority.  Nor will the current GOP strategy of using every outrageous trick in the book to reduce the number blacks and Latinos who vote.  

On the other hand, it&#039;s not like Democrats have come up with a lot of good answers either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a picture online of a middle-age, shaved-headed man at a campaign event in Ohio.  He wore a blue t-shirt with a Romney-Ryan decal on the back.  Stenciled underneath in huge letters:  PUT THE WHITE BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE.</p>
<p>Romney campaign people condemned it, as would the overwhelming majority of people who identify as Republicans.  Still, the fact that such creeps are somehow attracted to the GOP won&#8217;t make it any easier for the GOP to broaden its appeal to the emerging non-white majority.  Nor will the current GOP strategy of using every outrageous trick in the book to reduce the number blacks and Latinos who vote.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, it&#8217;s not like Democrats have come up with a lot of good answers either.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthclubber</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/10/15/delving-into-race-issues-for-election-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-95930</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthclubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the article: &quot;...the majority of white parents believe their children will not be financially better off than themselves, while African Americans and Hispanics are now considerably more optimistic about the next generation....&quot;

Yessiree Bob!  The elevated status afforded white babies at birth purely and simply by virtue of their skin pigment has largely disappeared in this country, and those who have had their silver spoon yanked from their mouths are PISSED!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article: &#8220;&#8230;the majority of white parents believe their children will not be financially better off than themselves, while African Americans and Hispanics are now considerably more optimistic about the next generation&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yessiree Bob!  The elevated status afforded white babies at birth purely and simply by virtue of their skin pigment has largely disappeared in this country, and those who have had their silver spoon yanked from their mouths are PISSED!</p>
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