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	<title>Comments on: Open thread on Monday&#8217;s presidential debate</title>
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		<title>By: RR, Senile Columnist</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/10/22/open-thread-on-mondays-presidential-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-98757</link>
		<dc:creator>RR, Senile Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does intelligent dissent include Roseanne and Cindy Sheehan?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does intelligent dissent include Roseanne and Cindy Sheehan?</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/10/22/open-thread-on-mondays-presidential-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-98705</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to spend a lot of time in Salt Lake on business when Rocky Anderson was mayor, and I had a lot of respect for him.   He was a very progressive, independent-minded person in a place where you wouldn&#039;t expect that type of individual to be politically viable.  He had a top-notch legal career too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to spend a lot of time in Salt Lake on business when Rocky Anderson was mayor, and I had a lot of respect for him.   He was a very progressive, independent-minded person in a place where you wouldn&#8217;t expect that type of individual to be politically viable.  He had a top-notch legal career too.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce R. Peterson, Lafayette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce R. Peterson, Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ #30  Good comment. If Obama &amp; Romney showed up, they would have nor have placed in the top 3. Obviously our bought &amp; paid for, mainstream  media, wants to silence intelligent dissent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #30  Good comment. If Obama &amp; Romney showed up, they would have nor have placed in the top 3. Obviously our bought &amp; paid for, mainstream  media, wants to silence intelligent dissent.</p>
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		<title>By: For Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>For Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See Tuesday&#039;s (10/23/12) debate (free &amp; equal debate) at the following link below:

http://youtu.be/5EcaX12h46k

Unfortunately, Obama and Romney did not show up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See Tuesday&#8217;s (10/23/12) debate (free &amp; equal debate) at the following link below:</p>
<p><a href="http://youtu.be/5EcaX12h46k" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/5EcaX12h46k</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately, Obama and Romney did not show up!</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 04:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #27

&quot;Missing the  point&quot;

Not at all.

Having obtained my accelerated training on the subject of Ockams razor from the University of Wikipedia, my understanding is that the the concept doesn&#039;t really work if the quality of evidence supporting the supposedly simpler hypothesis is substandard compared with the more complex hypothesis.  I consider the points I made in the previous posting (laughable ghetto speak and no affirmation by even Fox News) to be a type of forensic evidence superior to anything supporting your hypothesis.  Besides, I don&#039;t consider my hypothesis to be especially complex.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #27</p>
<p>&#8220;Missing the  point&#8221;</p>
<p>Not at all.</p>
<p>Having obtained my accelerated training on the subject of Ockams razor from the University of Wikipedia, my understanding is that the the concept doesn&#8217;t really work if the quality of evidence supporting the supposedly simpler hypothesis is substandard compared with the more complex hypothesis.  I consider the points I made in the previous posting (laughable ghetto speak and no affirmation by even Fox News) to be a type of forensic evidence superior to anything supporting your hypothesis.  Besides, I don&#8217;t consider my hypothesis to be especially complex.</p>
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		<title>By: Truthclubber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthclubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 04:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@27 --

Hitler.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@27 &#8211;</p>
<p>Hitler.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 04:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ 26 John W.

I think you&#039;re missing the point.  Simply stated, Occam&#039;s razor says that the simplest solution is the best solution.

Now which is simpler, black wingnuts making threats, or a white wingnut conspiracy to make black wingnuts look bad?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 26 John W.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the point.  Simply stated, Occam&#8217;s razor says that the simplest solution is the best solution.</p>
<p>Now which is simpler, black wingnuts making threats, or a white wingnut conspiracy to make black wingnuts look bad?</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re 25

Ockham&#039;s razor!  Impressive.  Had to look that one up.

Only one succinctly stated hypothesis -- namely that, based on the available evidence, the emails in question were authored by people making a feeble attempt to make it appear that liberal Obama supporters (especially smack-talking blacks from the hood) are making threats.

Evidence is the comical white wingnut effort to imitate aforementioned smack-talking blacks from the hood.  Secondary evidence.  Fox News not making a big deal out of it.  Actually not even talking about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 25</p>
<p>Ockham&#8217;s razor!  Impressive.  Had to look that one up.</p>
<p>Only one succinctly stated hypothesis &#8212; namely that, based on the available evidence, the emails in question were authored by people making a feeble attempt to make it appear that liberal Obama supporters (especially smack-talking blacks from the hood) are making threats.</p>
<p>Evidence is the comical white wingnut effort to imitate aforementioned smack-talking blacks from the hood.  Secondary evidence.  Fox News not making a big deal out of it.  Actually not even talking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why would you assume that Obama supporters or Romney haters are the source of these ridiculous “threats?”

Occam&#039;s razor (also written as Ockham&#039;s razor, Latin lex parsimoniae) is the law of parsimony, economy, or succinctness. It is a principle stating that among competing hypotheses, the one that makes the fewest assumptions should be selected.  --Wikipedia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why would you assume that Obama supporters or Romney haters are the source of these ridiculous “threats?”</p>
<p>Occam&#8217;s razor (also written as Ockham&#8217;s razor, Latin lex parsimoniae) is the law of parsimony, economy, or succinctness. It is a principle stating that among competing hypotheses, the one that makes the fewest assumptions should be selected.  &#8211;Wikipedia</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would you assume that Obama supporters or Romney haters are the source of these ridiculous &quot;threats?&quot;  Logic would suggest just the opposite -- that it is Obama haters or political dirty tricksters.  Either way, it is disgusting stuff.  Should be removed from Twitter.

Given the volume of daily &quot;threats&quot; by all kinds of whackos, political dirty tricksters and, occasionally truly dangerous types, the Secret Service can&#039;t possibly go to DEFCON 1 for every online brain fart.  However, I&#039;m confident that, based on decades of experience, they have the means and determination to properly assess each one and then to proceed accordingly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you assume that Obama supporters or Romney haters are the source of these ridiculous &#8220;threats?&#8221;  Logic would suggest just the opposite &#8212; that it is Obama haters or political dirty tricksters.  Either way, it is disgusting stuff.  Should be removed from Twitter.</p>
<p>Given the volume of daily &#8220;threats&#8221; by all kinds of whackos, political dirty tricksters and, occasionally truly dangerous types, the Secret Service can&#8217;t possibly go to DEFCON 1 for every online brain fart.  However, I&#8217;m confident that, based on decades of experience, they have the means and determination to properly assess each one and then to proceed accordingly.</p>
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