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Election 2012 open thread

By Josh Richman
Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 at 6:52 pm in 2012 Assembly election, 2012 Congressional Election, 2012 presidential election, 2012 State Senate election, 2012 U.S. Senate election.

OK, have at it in the comments, readers – just remember to keep it clean, and avoid personal attacks on each other.

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  • Truthclubber

    Updated as of 7:45 pm, PST:

    Barack Obama is going to win both the popular vote as well as the Electoral College — it appears I was not “liberal” enough in my projection as he just might take NC in addition to the other states I stated he would — for a total of 347 to 191 for Romnuts.

    Even so, the votes are not even counted yet and John Boehner has said “mandate be damned — no new taxes on the wealthy!” even though that is THE linchpin of the Obama campaign.

    Can we say “neo-fascist dictator” Boehner? Can I get an amen?

  • Elwood

    Gonna be tough ****y,

    Right there in the capitol city.

    Meet the new Obama.

    Same as the old Obama.

    Feckless.

  • Truthclubber

    @2 –

    Move to Canada, you clueless, fascist, @$$hole loser.

    Get out of OUR way.

    The (as you called him) Hafrican Socialist just won the power to lock you up (for another four years), if he (and WE) so decide.

  • Elwood

    Please! It’s HALFRICAN! Try to pay attention!

    And remember what your doctor said about getting excited when you’re off your meds!

    paranoia

    par·a·noi·a
       [par-uh-noi-uh]
    noun
    1.
    Psychiatry . a mental disorder characterized by systematized delusions and the projection of personal conflicts, which are ascribed to the supposed hostility of others, sometimes progressing to disturbances of consciousness and aggressive acts believed to be performed in self-defense or as a mission.
    2.
    baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others.

  • Elwood

    Time for General Pelosi who led the dimmiecrats to their greatest defeat in 40 years to just fade away.

  • Truthclubber

    @2 –

    Oh, by the way…

    You were WRONG.

    S.T.F.U.

    No one needs to hear yet more BUL*SHI* coming out of your fascist mouth.

    The President-Elect won despite a majority of:

    Heterosexual
    Married
    Elder
    White
    Married
    White
    Male
    Fathers

    voting for Romnuts.

    “Father [NO LONGER] knows best”.

    Go into your hide-y hole, or move to Canada, or STFU.

  • John W

    Well, now I can stop my liberal bedwetting. TruthClubber wins the predictions game.

  • Truthclubber

    @7 –

    And it WASN’T luck, was it, Johnny W?

  • JAFO

    Man, Truthclubber, you really are an incredibly angry, foul-mouthed piece of work. You’re incapable of showing the slightest grace, even when several folks go out of their way to acknowledge the accuracy of your prediction. Talk about a sore winner.

  • Truthclubber

    @9 –

    I was right (and you and other fascists) were wrong — so STFU. Your dictator, John Boehner, has already said that this overwhelming NATIONAL decision on who should be our leader for the next four years doesn’t mean squat when it comes to who pays more in taxes — so who is out of touch? Fascists like Y-O-U.

  • Elwood

    @ 9

    He’s gone off his meds and seems to be on a crystal meth jag.

    It will wear off eventually or kill him, one or the other.

    Oh, by the way. I don’t recall anyone other than him making predictions. So he’s the BIG WINNER!

  • Truthclubber

    Ifg you make more than $200K as an individual (or $250K as a household) — get ready to pay the same Fed tax rate as you paid under:

    Hoover, NO!
    Roosevelt, NO!
    Truman, NO!
    Eisenhower, NO!
    Kennedy, NO!
    Johnson, NO!
    Nixon, NO!
    Ford, NO!
    Reagan, NO!
    Bush the Elder, NO!
    Clinton, YES!

    Oh, the horror, the horror!

    Oh, the humanity!

  • Truthclubber

    @11 –

    No one else on this blog (and YOU were the best example) had the balls to put your reputation out there with any kind of numeric prediction, and allow people to judge whether you were filled with truth, or merely filled with self-aggrandizing BUL*SHI* — and as the Italians would say, you (Elwood) are a “manure cannoli”.

    STFU and move to Canada where you belong…

  • Josh Richman

    Truthclubber — ENOUGH. Perhaps you didn’t read my post: “avoid personal attacks on each other.” You’ve gloated sufficiently; post again if you have facts to add, but keep it clean or I’ll block you out.

  • Truthclubber

    Josh –

    You think that @4 is NOT a “personal attack” on me?

    You think that @9 is NOT a “personal attack: on me?

    You think that @11 is NOT a “personal attack” on me?

    I await your professional response to EACH.

  • Josh Richman

    Truthclubber, you lost your right to complain the moment you posted #3 — and this is not a debate.

  • Truthclubber

    @16 –

    Some free advice:

    Don’t ever actually run for office — just stay on the sidelines where (as a referee) it is safe.

    Sorry if that hurts — but the truth often does.

    Your blog needs my comments (for readership interest) far more than I need the emotional outlet for venting…especially given your paper’s business model.

  • Elwood

    delusions of grandeur

    noun
    a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
    WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.

  • Josh Richman

    @17 – Should’ve read my bio on this very blog, TC: “an unabashed political junkie who will never, EVER seek elected office.” This blog is my job, and I’ll administer it as I see fit.

  • John W

    Secretary of results on the ballot propositions and Congressional races seem to be pretty slow coming in. But it looks like McNerney is surviving; Stark not.

  • John W

    Er, that’s Secretary of State.

  • John W

    Obama appointments should be interesting. Hillary earlier indicated she wouldn’t stick around for a second term but has hedged on that more recently. Eric Holder doesn’t plan to stay. Ben Bernanke has said he won’t stay when his current term is up.

  • Steve Weir

    We’re awaiting the vans that gather the results through out the county. They tend to hit at the same time. So, while we’re experiencing a high volume of returns, it is difficult to stop the whole process to do updates. Sorry.

    The nature of accumulating results, stopping to do an update, moving those results to a separate server, and then moving the results off of that server to a remote site, simply takes time.

  • Truthclubber

    @19 –

    Never, EVER seek political office? Yawn. (And I’m being polite.)

  • John W

    Re: 23 Steve Weir

    No criticism intended. The pace seems to be similar statewide, based on SOS website.

  • For Liberty

    Oh God, please bless America.

  • Elwood

    50/50

    Hardly a mandate.

  • John W

    Re 27

    I’d like to think that it IS a mandate — for all sides to find common ground on the most important issues instead of just vanquishing the other half and saying “my way or the highway.”

  • John W

    Re 26

    “Oh God, please bless America.”

    Yes, She could start by putting a muzzle on Donald Trump.

  • Elwood

    Now, John!

    Trump and one of our frequent posters are good buddies!

  • Elwood

    Well, the stock market is certainly looking forward to four more years of bumbling ineptitude and uncertainty.

    Dow down about 300 all morning.

  • John W

    Elwood,nice try on the stock market angle. As I recall, the market (and my nest egg) went up quite a bit under four years of POTUS. It’s mostly about rumblings in Germany and the rest of Europe; and probably also about the Fiscal Cliff. If POTUS and the GOP don’t get down to business on the Fiscal Cliff, down 300 will seem like a picnic.

  • Elwood

    I would say the market rose in spite of, not because of, the leadership of the chosen one.

  • Elwood

    Dow down another 120 today.

    Yes, I know, Europe, fiscal cliff, blah, blah, blah.

    I can understand the big banks reluctance to put the blame on their trepidation at the idea of four more years of the same bumbling feckless leadership of the chosen one.

    They’re not that stupid, you know?

  • John W

    Re 33

    I’ve heard this for the past 8 years. Every time the market took a dip, it was Obama’s fault. But every time there was a big single day jump, or the sustained 8 year rise, we hear nothing but the Sounds of Silence.

    Historically, the stock market has done better under Democratic administrations. Again, I don’t claim “cause and effect,” just lack of any evidence that the market has done better under Republicans. Same is true of job growth. Since 1952, much more job growth under Dems.

  • Elwood

    @ 95

    “I’ve heard this for the past 8 years.”

    Geez, I didn’t realize the chosen one had reigned for that long.

    I thought it just seemed like it. Time flies when you’re having fun.

  • Elwood

    35?

  • John W

    Oops! For the past four years. I guess the market went up so much during Obama’s term that I just figured it must have taken 8 years.