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	<title>Comments on: Reactions to the Newtown school massacre</title>
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		<title>By: GV Haste</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/12/14/reactions-to-the-newtown-school-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-108504</link>
		<dc:creator>GV Haste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People are uncomfortable admitting there was nothing that could have been done at the school site to prevent this.
No stronger glass,  or locks, or anything else could have stopped a person intent on doing this crime.
All he would have needed to do was to go around whatever your Maginot Line was.

You can&#039;t protect every child in every school all over this nation.  It can&#039;t be done short of stationing a police officer to be on-site every single day at every single school.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are uncomfortable admitting there was nothing that could have been done at the school site to prevent this.<br />
No stronger glass,  or locks, or anything else could have stopped a person intent on doing this crime.<br />
All he would have needed to do was to go around whatever your Maginot Line was.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t protect every child in every school all over this nation.  It can&#8217;t be done short of stationing a police officer to be on-site every single day at every single school.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/12/14/reactions-to-the-newtown-school-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-108497</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good question about the mother.  Contrary to early reports, she apparently was not a substitute teacher or employee at the school.  She may have been a volunteer.  The shooter attended the school (K-4) years ago.  Ironically, Newtown is headquarters for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the main trade association for gun manufacturers and retailers.   

This school was more secure than most.  Many of the elementary and middle schools in the Bay Area are open campuses.  As a volunteer at an elementary school, I had to sign in and out at the office.  But anybody with bad intentions could walk on to the campus and head directly to the classrooms.  I suspect they will now at least start locking the classroom doors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question about the mother.  Contrary to early reports, she apparently was not a substitute teacher or employee at the school.  She may have been a volunteer.  The shooter attended the school (K-4) years ago.  Ironically, Newtown is headquarters for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the main trade association for gun manufacturers and retailers.   </p>
<p>This school was more secure than most.  Many of the elementary and middle schools in the Bay Area are open campuses.  As a volunteer at an elementary school, I had to sign in and out at the office.  But anybody with bad intentions could walk on to the campus and head directly to the classrooms.  I suspect they will now at least start locking the classroom doors.</p>
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		<title>By: Alcoahead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alcoahead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 04:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the phrase &quot;Glock&#039;d&quot; (as in &quot;killed by a Glock 9mm handgun&quot;) you find the letters &quot;G&quot;, &quot;O&quot;, and &quot;D&quot; in perfect order.

Any coincidence?

I think NOT.

So is it written -- and so is it done.

Let us ask ourselves:  WWJS?*

*What Would Jesus Shoot (so as to kill the bad guys, even though he never preached revenge or hatred or violence of any kind)?

Other questions worth asking:

1)   What is a forty-something female substitute teacher doing with a virtual arsenal of lethal weaponry, when she has a seriously mentally troubled adult male living with her that she acknowledged was &quot;several cards short of a full deck?&quot;

2)  What kind of security system at a high income school has, as part of its barriers to entry, a shatterable glass panel right next to the front door, unwired to any security alarm, and wide enough to allow an adult male to cross through it once shattered?

I am SO sick of the STUPIDITY of American society, since so much of this pointless carnage (just like 9-11) could have been avoided with some common sense -- like:

1)  Don&#039;t let a Goth adult male anywhere near lethal weapons, and, for Darwin&#039;s sake, don&#039;t take them to the shooting range to allow them to perfect their craft at shooting

2)  Don&#039;t use shatterable glass as a barrier against unauthorized break-ins, or if you do, at least wire the glass to detect instant breakage and sound an alarm

3)  If you are flying a machine loaded with hundreds of gallons of aviation fuel, and thousands of pounds of metal, at least LOCK the cabin doors so that no one can disturb you whule you are trying to control such a &quot;semi-guided missile&quot;

You CAN&#039;T fix stupid -- but we Americans LOVE to pretend that we AREN&#039;T stupid, and even if we are, that we CAN fix stupid, just after the fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the phrase &#8220;Glock&#8217;d&#8221; (as in &#8220;killed by a Glock 9mm handgun&#8221;) you find the letters &#8220;G&#8221;, &#8220;O&#8221;, and &#8220;D&#8221; in perfect order.</p>
<p>Any coincidence?</p>
<p>I think NOT.</p>
<p>So is it written &#8212; and so is it done.</p>
<p>Let us ask ourselves:  WWJS?*</p>
<p>*What Would Jesus Shoot (so as to kill the bad guys, even though he never preached revenge or hatred or violence of any kind)?</p>
<p>Other questions worth asking:</p>
<p>1)   What is a forty-something female substitute teacher doing with a virtual arsenal of lethal weaponry, when she has a seriously mentally troubled adult male living with her that she acknowledged was &#8220;several cards short of a full deck?&#8221;</p>
<p>2)  What kind of security system at a high income school has, as part of its barriers to entry, a shatterable glass panel right next to the front door, unwired to any security alarm, and wide enough to allow an adult male to cross through it once shattered?</p>
<p>I am SO sick of the STUPIDITY of American society, since so much of this pointless carnage (just like 9-11) could have been avoided with some common sense &#8212; like:</p>
<p>1)  Don&#8217;t let a Goth adult male anywhere near lethal weapons, and, for Darwin&#8217;s sake, don&#8217;t take them to the shooting range to allow them to perfect their craft at shooting</p>
<p>2)  Don&#8217;t use shatterable glass as a barrier against unauthorized break-ins, or if you do, at least wire the glass to detect instant breakage and sound an alarm</p>
<p>3)  If you are flying a machine loaded with hundreds of gallons of aviation fuel, and thousands of pounds of metal, at least LOCK the cabin doors so that no one can disturb you whule you are trying to control such a &#8220;semi-guided missile&#8221;</p>
<p>You CAN&#8217;T fix stupid &#8212; but we Americans LOVE to pretend that we AREN&#8217;T stupid, and even if we are, that we CAN fix stupid, just after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/12/14/reactions-to-the-newtown-school-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-108254</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I generally concur with GV Haste that it&#039;s best to ignore the news for a few days and then come back to it after the facts have settled a bit.  We don&#039;t even know the names of the deceased yet, except for the much loved and respected principal.

However, I think it is important to pass on this bit of breaking news.  Westboro Baptist Church is on top of things and has announced plans to picket the school and the funerals.  As their leader has said, they want &quot;to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgement.&quot;

I think God has never forgiven us for putting His name on our paper currency in 1957.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally concur with GV Haste that it&#8217;s best to ignore the news for a few days and then come back to it after the facts have settled a bit.  We don&#8217;t even know the names of the deceased yet, except for the much loved and respected principal.</p>
<p>However, I think it is important to pass on this bit of breaking news.  Westboro Baptist Church is on top of things and has announced plans to picket the school and the funerals.  As their leader has said, they want &#8220;to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgement.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think God has never forgiven us for putting His name on our paper currency in 1957.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Under current conditions if an Oakland cop stops somebody he has to fill out a ream of paper work and risks being sued for profiling and police brutality by John Burris.

Mo&#039; betta for him to stay in the cruiser.

If I lived in Newtown, MA I would have a sign on my front door:  &quot;Every third reporter will be beaten with an axe handle.  The second one just left.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under current conditions if an Oakland cop stops somebody he has to fill out a ream of paper work and risks being sued for profiling and police brutality by John Burris.</p>
<p>Mo&#8217; betta for him to stay in the cruiser.</p>
<p>If I lived in Newtown, MA I would have a sign on my front door:  &#8220;Every third reporter will be beaten with an axe handle.  The second one just left.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GV Haste</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/12/14/reactions-to-the-newtown-school-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-108225</link>
		<dc:creator>GV Haste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve found that the best thing to do when these events happen is to briefly hear the initial details, then turn off all media coverage of the event for 3 or 4 days.  
There is little to be gotten from the media frenzy during the first 72 to 96 hours.  Especially when ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX all anchor their eveing news from some small town,  as in this case here.

Nothing encourages or advertises these events more than the endless coverage.

Better to ignore the new for days, then get some concise summary of the event a week later when actual facts begin to become apparent.

Nothing will change.  There will be no new gun laws that will prevent the next event.
Nothing any local California office holder says or does will change the future course of such acts.
They should confine themselves to routine gun violence closer to home.  

Three or four more people were shot last night in Oakland.  The only unusual thing about that was that none of the died.
Meanwhile Oakland police have all but discontinued stopping vehicles and people they suspect of being a risk.  Everyone&#039;s right to a crime free environment is abandoned so as to be 99.99% certain no one is stopped as being suspicious.
Everyone, including the criminals are catching on.
The new Oakland environment is dawning on everyone.
YOU are on your own. 
The New York &quot;stop and frisk&quot; program is not part of Jean Quan&#039;s plan to make Oakland safer.
She has NO PLAN.  None.  Nada.  Clueless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found that the best thing to do when these events happen is to briefly hear the initial details, then turn off all media coverage of the event for 3 or 4 days.<br />
There is little to be gotten from the media frenzy during the first 72 to 96 hours.  Especially when ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX all anchor their eveing news from some small town,  as in this case here.</p>
<p>Nothing encourages or advertises these events more than the endless coverage.</p>
<p>Better to ignore the new for days, then get some concise summary of the event a week later when actual facts begin to become apparent.</p>
<p>Nothing will change.  There will be no new gun laws that will prevent the next event.<br />
Nothing any local California office holder says or does will change the future course of such acts.<br />
They should confine themselves to routine gun violence closer to home.  </p>
<p>Three or four more people were shot last night in Oakland.  The only unusual thing about that was that none of the died.<br />
Meanwhile Oakland police have all but discontinued stopping vehicles and people they suspect of being a risk.  Everyone&#8217;s right to a crime free environment is abandoned so as to be 99.99% certain no one is stopped as being suspicious.<br />
Everyone, including the criminals are catching on.<br />
The new Oakland environment is dawning on everyone.<br />
YOU are on your own.<br />
The New York &#8220;stop and frisk&#8221; program is not part of Jean Quan&#8217;s plan to make Oakland safer.<br />
She has NO PLAN.  None.  Nada.  Clueless.</p>
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		<title>By: RR, Senile Columnist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR, Senile Columnist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 22:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honda and Yee should shut up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honda and Yee should shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2012/12/14/reactions-to-the-newtown-school-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-107986</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Littleton happened in 1999, it was a freak event.  Now, these things seem to occur with a degree of regularity, whether it&#039;s a school, a mall, a movie theatre or a temple.  But what happened today, with 20 little kids and 6 teachers dead, takes it to a whole new level.  Why do we seem to have so much more of this than any other developed country?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Littleton happened in 1999, it was a freak event.  Now, these things seem to occur with a degree of regularity, whether it&#8217;s a school, a mall, a movie theatre or a temple.  But what happened today, with 20 little kids and 6 teachers dead, takes it to a whole new level.  Why do we seem to have so much more of this than any other developed country?</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who gives a **** what the same old tired self-serving pols think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who gives a **** what the same old tired self-serving pols think?</p>
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