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	<title>Comments on: Corporate personhood advances &#8211; in carpool lane</title>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2013/01/04/corporate-personhood-advances-in-carpool-lane/comment-page-1/#comment-112959</link>
		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Final, right, no.

Right, final, yes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Final, right, no.</p>
<p>Right, final, yes.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2013/01/04/corporate-personhood-advances-in-carpool-lane/comment-page-1/#comment-112893</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He was interviewed by Michael Finney on KGO radio Saturday morning.  I didn&#039;t hear the whole interview.  But it is clear this isn&#039;t a case of somebody trying to weasel out of a ticket.  He deliberately entered the carpool lane a couple of dozen times for the specific purpose of getting caught so that he could have standing to make his argument before a court.  I would call it an act of peaceful civil disobedience by somebody seeking a forum to make a point.  Yes, he is a gadfly.  I like gadflies, so long as I agree with their point of view!  

As for the judge&#039;s &quot;refreshingly logical opinion,&quot; too bad the Supremes didn&#039;t apply the same in deciding that corporations are people or in deciding that the first 13 words of the 27-word 2nd Amendment don&#039;t count.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was interviewed by Michael Finney on KGO radio Saturday morning.  I didn&#8217;t hear the whole interview.  But it is clear this isn&#8217;t a case of somebody trying to weasel out of a ticket.  He deliberately entered the carpool lane a couple of dozen times for the specific purpose of getting caught so that he could have standing to make his argument before a court.  I would call it an act of peaceful civil disobedience by somebody seeking a forum to make a point.  Yes, he is a gadfly.  I like gadflies, so long as I agree with their point of view!  </p>
<p>As for the judge&#8217;s &#8220;refreshingly logical opinion,&#8221; too bad the Supremes didn&#8217;t apply the same in deciding that corporations are people or in deciding that the first 13 words of the 27-word 2nd Amendment don&#8217;t count.</p>
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		<title>By: JAFO</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2013/01/04/corporate-personhood-advances-in-carpool-lane/comment-page-1/#comment-112879</link>
		<dc:creator>JAFO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The court appropriately ignored this gadfly&#039;s &quot;oh-so-clever&quot; legal arguments.  The judge in the case reportedly applied the common sense reasoning that the state legislature fully intended the HOV, multiple occupant provision to apply to human passengers with body temperatures that approximate 98.6 degrees. What a refreshingly logical opinion.  Obviously, a stack of incorporation papers sitting next to a driver fail to satisfy that definition.  So, now this bored &quot;genius&quot; has that grounds he so obviously wanted on which to base his appeal.  More wasted court time to come.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The court appropriately ignored this gadfly&#8217;s &#8220;oh-so-clever&#8221; legal arguments.  The judge in the case reportedly applied the common sense reasoning that the state legislature fully intended the HOV, multiple occupant provision to apply to human passengers with body temperatures that approximate 98.6 degrees. What a refreshingly logical opinion.  Obviously, a stack of incorporation papers sitting next to a driver fail to satisfy that definition.  So, now this bored &#8220;genius&#8221; has that grounds he so obviously wanted on which to base his appeal.  More wasted court time to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 04:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Josh #21

Be ashamed.

Be very ashamed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Josh #21</p>
<p>Be ashamed.</p>
<p>Be very ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: JAFO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JAFO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish they could as well, Elwood. In that case, we might actually have an outside chance of again electing a conservative US senator from this &quot;blue&quot; state.  In the meantime, Bab&#039;s and DiFi&#039;s &quot;true-blue&quot; seats are rock solid, so long as they want them.  After that, the pipeline is full of voracious and highly-electable, if not highly-qualified, dems who will be able to count on the fact that cows will be allowed to vote, right after they earn their pilots&#039; licenses. John W may slice and dice political demographics anyway he wants, but it only reminds me of the old line about the frog who finds himself with one leg in freezing (blue) water and the other in boiling (red) water.  However, he&#039;s not too worried because, on balance, his body temperature is about average (purple-ish).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish they could as well, Elwood. In that case, we might actually have an outside chance of again electing a conservative US senator from this &#8220;blue&#8221; state.  In the meantime, Bab&#8217;s and DiFi&#8217;s &#8220;true-blue&#8221; seats are rock solid, so long as they want them.  After that, the pipeline is full of voracious and highly-electable, if not highly-qualified, dems who will be able to count on the fact that cows will be allowed to vote, right after they earn their pilots&#8217; licenses. John W may slice and dice political demographics anyway he wants, but it only reminds me of the old line about the frog who finds himself with one leg in freezing (blue) water and the other in boiling (red) water.  However, he&#8217;s not too worried because, on balance, his body temperature is about average (purple-ish).</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Richman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@#19-20: &quot;Something in the way she moos/ attracts me like no udder lover...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#19-20: &#8220;Something in the way she moos/ attracts me like no udder lover&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: 19

So, you&#039;re saying that McCintock&#039;s  constituents are of the mooing bovine variety?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 19</p>
<p>So, you&#8217;re saying that McCintock&#8217;s  constituents are of the mooing bovine variety?</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; But click on California, and you see that about half the counties are red.&quot;

If only cows could vote!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; But click on California, and you see that about half the counties are red.&#8221;</p>
<p>If only cows could vote!</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2013/01/04/corporate-personhood-advances-in-carpool-lane/comment-page-1/#comment-112553</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Blue-ish&quot; means not &quot;red-ish&quot; or &quot;purple-ish.&quot;  So, I&#039;m not sure why you are arguing the point.  The &quot;ish&quot; is simply my way of saying that, with some exceptions, characterizing a whole state or region as &quot;red&quot; or &quot;blue&quot; is a real over-simplification.

Kansas, where I spent several years of my youth, is a good example.  Kansas is as red as California is blue.  All four Congressmen are tea-party Right, as are the governor and attorney general.  Yet, there has been a real battle between moderate and very conservative Republicans in the legislature.  Prior to the current governor, the two-term elected governor was non other than Democrat Kathleen Sebelius, Obama&#039;s Secretary of  Health and Human Services.

Or look at Michigan, where I spent my high school and college years.  Always considered a &quot;liberal&quot; and &quot;big labor&quot; state.  But it&#039;s really blue in Wayne County (Detroit) and in the university towns and conservative in Grand Rapids and most of the remaining &quot;out state.&quot;  State government is in Republican control these days, but Michigan (Romney&#039;s home state) went for Obama.  

Or take Paul Ryan&#039;s congressional district in Wisconsin.  He won re-election by a wide margin while also running for VP.  But both his district and his hometown of Janesville voted for Obama.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Blue-ish&#8221; means not &#8220;red-ish&#8221; or &#8220;purple-ish.&#8221;  So, I&#8217;m not sure why you are arguing the point.  The &#8220;ish&#8221; is simply my way of saying that, with some exceptions, characterizing a whole state or region as &#8220;red&#8221; or &#8220;blue&#8221; is a real over-simplification.</p>
<p>Kansas, where I spent several years of my youth, is a good example.  Kansas is as red as California is blue.  All four Congressmen are tea-party Right, as are the governor and attorney general.  Yet, there has been a real battle between moderate and very conservative Republicans in the legislature.  Prior to the current governor, the two-term elected governor was non other than Democrat Kathleen Sebelius, Obama&#8217;s Secretary of  Health and Human Services.</p>
<p>Or look at Michigan, where I spent my high school and college years.  Always considered a &#8220;liberal&#8221; and &#8220;big labor&#8221; state.  But it&#8217;s really blue in Wayne County (Detroit) and in the university towns and conservative in Grand Rapids and most of the remaining &#8220;out state.&#8221;  State government is in Republican control these days, but Michigan (Romney&#8217;s home state) went for Obama.  </p>
<p>Or take Paul Ryan&#8217;s congressional district in Wisconsin.  He won re-election by a wide margin while also running for VP.  But both his district and his hometown of Janesville voted for Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: JAFO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JAFO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll bet you can also find a few brave, self-described conservative voters in San Francisco and Berkeley.  But, that doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;ll ever be able to describe those cities as &quot;blue-ish.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll bet you can also find a few brave, self-described conservative voters in San Francisco and Berkeley.  But, that doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;ll ever be able to describe those cities as &#8220;blue-ish.&#8221;</p>
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