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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 23:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re:  3 Elwood

Yes.  I predict SCOTUS will at least narrow the ruling to the issue of  whether Obama exceeded his authority by ignoring the sham &quot;gavel in/gavel out&quot; pro forma sessions.  Otherwise, the courts will have effectively nullified the recess appointments clause.  John Yoo agreed that the court went too far, but he blamed Obama&#039;s aggressiveness on the issue for provoking the court to get involved in the first place.  It&#039;s a bit like blaming a rape victim for dressing too provocatively. 

Even a narrowed down ruling on that question, if it goes against Obama, would nullify the recess appointment authority.   Inter-session recesses are already pretty much a thing of the past.  Congress schedules its breaks intra-session,  which is why presidents of both parties have relied on the intra-session recess appointments.  Democrats created a Frankenstein when they started the pro forma session nonsense.  Now, the shoe is on the other foot and being used against them.   

Democrats invented the pro forma session, just as the Dixiecrat Democrats historically were the party associated with the filibuster.  However, the Republicans always seem to be more ruthless and talented at using both the filibuster and the pro forma session.  Harry Reid was too wimpy to reform the filibuster when he had the chance.  Watch.  When Republicans get the Senate majority, they won&#039;t be so wimpy about dumping the filibuster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  3 Elwood</p>
<p>Yes.  I predict SCOTUS will at least narrow the ruling to the issue of  whether Obama exceeded his authority by ignoring the sham &#8220;gavel in/gavel out&#8221; pro forma sessions.  Otherwise, the courts will have effectively nullified the recess appointments clause.  John Yoo agreed that the court went too far, but he blamed Obama&#8217;s aggressiveness on the issue for provoking the court to get involved in the first place.  It&#8217;s a bit like blaming a rape victim for dressing too provocatively. </p>
<p>Even a narrowed down ruling on that question, if it goes against Obama, would nullify the recess appointment authority.   Inter-session recesses are already pretty much a thing of the past.  Congress schedules its breaks intra-session,  which is why presidents of both parties have relied on the intra-session recess appointments.  Democrats created a Frankenstein when they started the pro forma session nonsense.  Now, the shoe is on the other foot and being used against them.   </p>
<p>Democrats invented the pro forma session, just as the Dixiecrat Democrats historically were the party associated with the filibuster.  However, the Republicans always seem to be more ruthless and talented at using both the filibuster and the pro forma session.  Harry Reid was too wimpy to reform the filibuster when he had the chance.  Watch.  When Republicans get the Senate majority, they won&#8217;t be so wimpy about dumping the filibuster.</p>
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		<title>By: Elwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 22:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ll see what SCOTUS says.

You never can tell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll see what SCOTUS says.</p>
<p>You never can tell.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 22:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miller is 100% on target.  Even John Yoo, the Bush attorney who made the legal case for enhanced interrogation, agrees the D.C. court went way too far in limiting Presidential authority under the recess appointments clause of the Constitution.

What made the Obama NLRB appointments different is that he pushed the envelope on intra-session recess appointments by ignoring the Republican pro forma sessions, where a lone Senator gavels in for just a minute every three days during the recess for the specific purpose of preventing a recess appointment.  

The all-Republican 3-judge Appeals Court panel should have limited its review to that issue.  Instead, they used the opportunity to make a much broader ruling that, if upheld by the Supremes, will virtually eliminate the ability of any president to ever again make a recess appointment as provided for in the Constitution.  Similar to the Citizens United decision, the D.C. Appeals court went way beyond the scope of the case before it.

In the specific case of the NLRB appointments, Senate Republicans forced Obama&#039;s hand by blocking the Senate from performing its Advise and Consent responsibility.  This wasn&#039;t a matter of them not liking the people Obama nominated for the open seats.  The goal was to nullify the NLRB as an agency, since the NLRB cannot make decisions without a quorum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miller is 100% on target.  Even John Yoo, the Bush attorney who made the legal case for enhanced interrogation, agrees the D.C. court went way too far in limiting Presidential authority under the recess appointments clause of the Constitution.</p>
<p>What made the Obama NLRB appointments different is that he pushed the envelope on intra-session recess appointments by ignoring the Republican pro forma sessions, where a lone Senator gavels in for just a minute every three days during the recess for the specific purpose of preventing a recess appointment.  </p>
<p>The all-Republican 3-judge Appeals Court panel should have limited its review to that issue.  Instead, they used the opportunity to make a much broader ruling that, if upheld by the Supremes, will virtually eliminate the ability of any president to ever again make a recess appointment as provided for in the Constitution.  Similar to the Citizens United decision, the D.C. Appeals court went way beyond the scope of the case before it.</p>
<p>In the specific case of the NLRB appointments, Senate Republicans forced Obama&#8217;s hand by blocking the Senate from performing its Advise and Consent responsibility.  This wasn&#8217;t a matter of them not liking the people Obama nominated for the open seats.  The goal was to nullify the NLRB as an agency, since the NLRB cannot make decisions without a quorum.</p>
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		<title>By: JAFO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JAFO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 18:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a purely political and entirely predictable statement from one of Mr. Miller&#039;s flacks.  I would have expected nothing less from a Democrat in this case.  Had the case gone the other way, one could easily imagine the identical statement coming from a different flack, but attributed to a Republican member of Congress.  Yawn.  Like the recently-concluded great filibuster &quot;fix,&quot; neither side truly wants much in the way of reforms, fearing that when the balance of power shifts, as it inevitably will, that one side or the other will long for things to be the way they used to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a purely political and entirely predictable statement from one of Mr. Miller&#8217;s flacks.  I would have expected nothing less from a Democrat in this case.  Had the case gone the other way, one could easily imagine the identical statement coming from a different flack, but attributed to a Republican member of Congress.  Yawn.  Like the recently-concluded great filibuster &#8220;fix,&#8221; neither side truly wants much in the way of reforms, fearing that when the balance of power shifts, as it inevitably will, that one side or the other will long for things to be the way they used to be.</p>
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