Nancy Pelosi raises money for Eric Swalwell in DC

One of the Bay Area’s freshman House members got some key support from House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi on Monday.

Swalwell- Pelosi fundraiser 5-6-2013Pelosi, D-San Francisco, hosted a Capitol Hill fundraiser for Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Pleasanton, putting to rest any murmurs that party leaders hold a grudge against Swalwell for his upstart unseating of veteran Rep. Pete Stark last year.

“I was honored to have Leader Pelosi’s support this evening,” Swalwell texted me a few minutes ago. “As someone who comes from a middle-class family, I appreciate the Leader’s efforts to expand our middle class for people who work hard and play by the rules. With the Leader’s help, I look forward to returning to the 114th Congress and calling her Madam Speaker.”

Swalwell said House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md., attended the fundraiser, too.

Swalwell wouldn’t say how much he raised tonight, but however much it is, it comes atop a stellar first quarter of 2013. He raised $263,000 from Jan. 1 through March 30 – more than any other local House member except perhaps Pelosi, depending on how you count it.

Someone’s gotta count all that money, and a recent staffing change ensures there’s an experienced hand on the books. Swalwell said Monday that Shannon Fuller, 40, of Orinda, whom he had hired in November as district director, left his Pleasanton district office in March to become the treasurer of his re-election campaign.

Fuller had been a campaign fundraiser for Rep. Ellen Tauscher for the 2000 election, and then worked as a scheduler in her office until 2004; that’s where she met Swalwell, who interned in Tauscher’s office in 2001. She was the finance director for Swalwell’s campaign last year.

Cheri Clasen Greven, 32, of Stockton, who has worked as a field representative for Rep. Jerry McNerney, D-Stockton, will leave that job Friday to start as Swalwell’s district director next Monday, May 13. “The last five years with Congressman McNerney and his team were tremendously successful, challenging and above all rewarding,” Greven wrote in an email Monday afternoon.

Josh Richman

Josh Richman covers state and national politics for the Bay Area News Group. A New York City native, he earned a bachelor’s degree in journalism from the University of Missouri and reported for the Express-Times of Easton, Pa. for five years before coming to the Oakland Tribune and ANG Newspapers in 1997. He is a frequent guest on KQED Channel 9’s “This Week in Northern California;” a proud father; an Eagle Scout; a somewhat skilled player of low-stakes poker; a rather good cook; a firm believer in the use of semicolons; and an unabashed political junkie who will never, EVER seek elected office.

  • Bluecollar voter.

    Nancy Pelsoi claims to want to put Californians back to work, she has said this repeatedly. In fact, there is a project right in her back yard that will put thousands of out-of-work construction people back to work, the project is the proposed billion dollar facility for the Golden State Warriors in San Francisco. This facility will put thousands of iron workers to work, probably for a couple of years, and all sorts of other blue collar workers as well. From what I can see Nancy Pelsoi has not lifted a finger to make this project happen, she has made no public statements supporting it, at least none that I have heard.
    In the City of Santa Cruz – which landed the Warriors D-League team this year – the City of Santa Cruz -working with the Warriors – got a new facility up for the D-League team to play in 92 days. They Warriors partnered with Kaiser to build the facility, getting maximum support from the City of Santa Cruz. As a result Santa Cruz now has a new sports facility – which draws people downtown and helps local businesses, construction workers got work, and you now have a new entertainment attraction for Santa Cruz. Itwas win-win situation for everybody, this is the kind of stuff that happens when you have good political leadership, leadership willing to work with business. The whole idea is to put people to work. We have – as a society – a moral obligation to put people to work, as a decent wage. This chronic 10% unemp-loyment, the under-employment – Wal Mart type wages – must come to an end if we are to prosper in US.
    The same thing can happen in San Francisco – if the political leadership, like Nancy Pelosi, get behind this proposed billion dollar project that will build an arena and bring the Warriors back to SF, where they started out.The political leadership can cut red tape, work to bring local groups together, there is just so much that can happen when government and business work together – with the idea of creating jobs and commerce – as we saw in Santa Cruz – but this proposed project in SF, thanks to weak vacillating SF leadership, is stalled and maybe will never get built. I urge Nancy Pelsoi to support this project, we have a moral obligation to put our out-of-work workers back to work. No more talk by Pelosi and other politicians, we need to put people back to work.

  • Shannon Fuller went from District Director to Campaign Treasurer for Swalwell last March, and yet she described herself as “self-employed/community volunteer” when she handed his campaign a check for $2600, also in March.

    Shannon’s “personal” contribution was greatly enhanced by that of her husband’s and business partners. Together, they were Swalwell’s largest contributors.

    But here is another interesting note: the Fullers & associates were also among Pelosi’s top-5 contributors in the last campaign cycle.

    Now, a suspicious mind might wonder whether Pelosi is paying the Fullers back by hosting this “fundraiser”. We don’t know if Swalwell actually raised any money at it, but he did get Josh to write /two/ stories about it and use them to claim that he has Pelosi’s support. Which he very well might have – we’ll have to wait and see if she endorses him.

    Full disclosure: I have endorsed Ellen Corbett – if I had any doubts that she was the better candidate, Swalwell’s self-description as an “Obama Democrat” and his inability to articulate a position on extrajudicial executions, cleared things up for me.

  • ?

    I’m sorry, but the thing with Shannon Fuller is dirty politics. Automatically giving your top campaign fundraising staffer a cushy government job is one thing (she never even worked as a field representative, only a scheduler and then on campaigns), but letting her go around the district and make connections on the government dime and then hiring her back to call those same people and ask them for money…that’s shady and disgusting. But I guess this is what we can expect from Eric Swalwell.

  • James B.

    Concerned citizens must “follow the money.” Is evidence of “community volunteer” Shannon Fuller’s “personal” contribution to Swalwell available on-line? What about the Fuller contributions to Madam Pelosi? Please post links to campaign disclosure forms, if possible. The more that we learn about the people who attempt to buy our elections, the better.

    Marga raises an excellent point — exactly who is Eric Swalwell? I can’t believe that a member of the House Homeland Security committee has no clear position on extrajudicial killings of American citizens. His ambiguity must be intentional. He probably does not want to offend the military-industrial-intelligence-surveillance complex where he’ll likely become employed as a lobbyist once he is ousted from Congress. In the meantime, he wants to collect campaign contributions from them. Swalwell knows the “hand that feeds him” and he will not “bite” it.

    Also don’t forget that Swalwell actively courted the conservative vote to become elected to Congress. It was the conservatives who gave him the margin of victory. Swalwell may say that he’s an “Obama Democrat” (at least while Obama is popular), but behind the scenes he will toss red meat to conservatives. Swalwell ain’t trustworthy.

  • Elwood

    And the battle of the shills rages on!

  • (this is the 3rd time I submit this comment, without seeing it appear, I apologize if my comments are there, just invisible to me)

    James, you can find the campaign finance reports filed by congressional candidates at the federal elections commission website: http://www.fec.gov/

    You can also find it at http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/ – it’s a bit more user friendly, but they’re not as up to date.

    Links to the particular reports that I referred to on my comment above are on my blog article (a rewrite of this comment). Click on my name to see it.

    Elwood, look up “shill” in the dictionary. The only one that might qualify as one here is Josh – but I don’t think he’s a shill, at least not intentionally. My bet is that he’s not receiving anything from Corbett’s campaign.

  • I submitted this comment 3 times before, but apparently, unlike other comments, it must be approved before being posted. In order to test whether that’s because I included URLs, I’m reposting it for a 4th time without the URLs.

    James, you can find the campaign finance reports filed by congressional candidates at the federal elections commission website.

    You can also find it at opensecrets.org – it’s a bit more user friendly, but they’re not as up to date.

    Links to the particular reports that I referred to on my comment above are on my blog article (a rewrite of this comment). Click on my name to see it.

    Elwood, look up “shill” in the dictionary.

  • GV Haste

    No, these contributors are not shills.

    They are Corbett supporters.

    I like this comment by James B.

    “Also don’t forget that Swalwell actively courted the conservative vote to become elected to Congress. It was the conservatives who gave him the margin of victory.”

    I’m a lifelong Democrat for over 40 years.
    I don’t care what Republicans did, as they have the right to vote. I only know that finally after 40 years, moderate Democrats got a chance to vote for someone other than Pete Stark, who party insiders like James B would have stuck us with for another 8 years of if it was “Petes desire”.. to hold on.

    Sorry there James, but the solid left of the Democratic party no longer can tell us what to do.
    Moderate Democrats, decline-to-state independents, and yes, even Repubilicans have a right to vote.

    Get used to it.

    Not EVERY Democrat favors what the extreme elements of the party choose to shove on us.

    Recent example. I don’t want non-citizens to be on a jury in California, when that isn’t allowed anywhere else in the entire nation.
    But I’m sure, that our local representatives in the State Legislature won’t even ask the average voter what they think about that.

    What is Corbetts stance? To use a extreme example, the mother of those idiots in Boston, the woman who is now back in Russia, she, yes, she would be eligible to be on your jury if she were living in California according to legislation offered by Assemblyman Robert Wieckowski.

    If a recent legal immigrant from Mongolia were in the country for 90 days, after living 40 years in Ulan Bator, that individual could serve on a jury judging you in a criminal trial, even though they had lived their entire life under a totally and extremely different legal culture.

    That is the kind of extreme pandering legislation that some of the more extreme elements of the party attempt to force on us.

    Go ask folks in the local supermarkets what they think about that one. Some one 90 days in the country judging them on whether you’ll spend 10 years in prison for some complicated nuanced crime.

    What does Ellen say?

  • Josh Richman

    @2,4,6 & 7 – Yes, sorry, the inclusion of links in comments usually either shunts them to my spam filter or at least to moderation, and I didn’t check until this morning.

    Here are Glen Fuller’s 2012-cycle donations, in chronological order:
    $250 to Barack Obama on 2/22/12
    $2,500 to Swalwell on 5/9/12
    $1,500 to Jerry McNerney on 5/29/12
    $2,500 to Swalwell on 6/26/12
    $1,000 to Jerry McNerney on 10/2/12
    $375 to George Miller on 10/5/12
    $2,500 to Alpha Valley Business and Technology Consortium on 10/25/12
    $1,000 to Barack Obama on 10/31/12
    $2,500 to Alpha Valley Business and Technology Consortium on 11/9/12

    The Alpha Valley Business and Technology Consortium, a San Leandro-based PAC, raised a total of $33,500. Besides Fuller, other donors included Charter Properties owner and president James Tong ($10,000); Calpine senior vice president Joe Ronan ($7,500); William Watkins, chairman of Livermore-based LED manufacturer Bridgelux ($5,000); agricultural chemical manufacturer Tri-Cal Inc. ($2,500); David Kent, vice chairman of The Wine Group in Livermore ($2,500); and Patrick O’Brien of Pleasanton, chief financial officer of Leisure Sports Inc. ($1,000). All of those donations were given on or after Oct. 25, and almost all of the committee’s money – $32,705 – went to independent expenditures on Swalwell’s behalf.

    In the first quarter of this year, Swalwell received:
    $2,500 from Glen Fuller on 1/25/13
    $2,600 from Shannon Fuller on 3/26/13
    $2,600 from Bernice Patterson (chairwoman of Glen Fuller’s business) on 2/27/13
    $2,600 from C.E. Patterson (president of Glen Fuller’s business) on 2/27/13

    Those four contributions together account for about 4 percent of Swalwell’s total receipts in the first quarter.

    Swalwell’s first-quarter filing also shows he paid Shannon Fuller $5,000 on 1/28/2013 as “payroll,” which cancelled out the debt he’d listed to her as “deferred compensation.”

    Marga is not only a Corbett supporter but also a member of the Alameda County Democratic Central Committee. And she’s right – I’ve heard only dead silence from Corbett’s campaign.

  • RR Senile Columnist

    Re: Marga. Keep this in mind. If you are fortunate enough to visit a new girls school in Afghanistan and a local Taleban pointedly objects to the school by aiming a rifle at your chest, will you call off Special Forces coming to the rescue by objecting to extrajudicial killing?

  • GV Haste

    ” And she’s right – I’ve heard only dead silence from Corbett’s campaign.”

    Is that different than just plain silence?

    That campaign, as a viable product, is it just limping along while Swalwell seems to be hitting on all cylinders? I don’t live in the district, but the “rookie” seems to have gotten the hang of it, and the Alameda County old guard is looking exactly like that, “old”.

  • RR Senile Columnist

    I know a number of DCC members in this region. Some are earnest, serious activists and others are to the Left of Trotsky without his brains and personify the label San Francisco Democrat that so endears them to the other 49 states

  • Elwood

    “Elwood, look up “shill” in the dictionary.”

    [shil] Show IPA Slang.
    a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc.
    a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty. from Dictionary.com

    Please note definition #2, which is why I carefully chose that word.

    Marga, you need to lighten up a little.

  • Senile, just so that we are clear: killing a person who is armed and pointing a gun to someone’s head is never an extrajudicial execution. Killing a person who is sleeping, or going to school or passing by, just because he fits the demographics of who you think are terrorists, that’s an extrajudicial execution.

    ?, it’s very common for staffers, in particular those in the district, to also work on the political campaigns of their bosses, often as volunteers. But it’s sort of a chicken-and-egg question, if their bosses don’t get re-elected, they don’t get a job, or a shot at the political office they probably aspire to.

    GV, don’t underestimate Ellen Corbett. She is an extremely able politician and campaigner. It frustrates me to hell to not see her on Facebook, or writing articles on the Patch or doing all those things that Eric does. But the woman has a history of winning elections against people who are better funded than her. I think it’s telling that Ro Khanna found her a bigger threat than sitting Congressman Mike Honda.

    Josh, I’m curious as to why you think my membership in the ACDCC is relevant to my comment? I’m not challenging it, I just wonder if it adds another layer of bias which I may not be seeing. I don’t live in Swalwell’s district, so I don’t get to vote on his endorsement.

  • Josh Richman

    @14 – I just wanted readers to have an accurate idea of your role within the party, Marga. The ACDCC supported Pete Stark last year, and Senator Corbett – having served so long, in so many capacities – certainly has many allies on the committee.

  • RR Senile Columnist

    Marga brings to mind Dido Clark, who once graced Contra Costa’s DCC. Marga, however, is more articulate.

  • GV Haste

    “I think it’s telling that Ro Khanna found her a bigger threat than sitting Congressman Mike Honda.”

    Marga, I don’t think it was just Corbett that Khanna was avoiding, but rather Swalwell.
    In a three person race, he may have gotten into the top two, but then faced a greater challenge in Swalwell. He’d have to run to the left to beat Corbett then completely switch and face Swalwell in the middle. There isn’t much room to pick up anyone left of center.

    Corbett can now try to appear a bit more moderate and still get into the top two with no problem.

    Again, I wonder how she’ll vote on that crazy non-citizen on juries measure.
    That’s sure to get votes from those in the middle.

    What next, let non citizen’s vote in elections?

  • I don’t know that I would say that the ACDCC supported Stark. As a County Committee, we only get to endorse on local, non-partisan races. Congressional candidate are endorsed by the state party, and incumbents pretty much get the nod (though that’s going to be tested with the open primaries). The ACDCC has to support whoever the party endorses. It doesn’t mean that I, personally, support those choices. For example, the party endorsed Rob Bonta for Assembly – I urged my readers to vote for Abel Guillen.

    I haven’t taken a survey, but I think most ACDCC members are likely to support Corbett over Swalwell – but not as much because she has many allies, but because people are scared of Swalwell’s right wing politics. Yeah, he’s been playing at being a Democrat – but, as his vote on CISPA showed, his heart is not really on it. That said, the ACDCC’s support and a couple of bucks won’t even buy you a latte at Zocalo.

  • Elwood, by all means quote anything anyone here has said that fits into your definition #2. Unless, of course, you are speaking of yourself.

    GV, I think Ro could have done well by running the same race he’s running now, as a quasi-libertarian. Swalwell is making many people unhappy on both the left /and/ the right, and someone smart could scoop them all up.

    Now, I can’t tell you how Corbett will vote on that bill, but I can tell you that the expedient and intelligent thing for her to do would be to vote for it. And she’s pretty smart. But this is just one piece in a Go game. I don’t even know how to play Go.

  • GV Haste

    Marga, You really think the average voter in CD15 thinks having non-citizens serve on juries where their fate will be decided is a good idea for Ellen Corbett to approve?

    Non citizens who may only have been in this country for a few months?

    That California should be the first state in the history of the nation to put their citizens up in court to be judged by people who can’t even vote for the laws or for the law makers?

    Yes, sure, and then we should make them eligible to vote as well, right?

    This just goes to show how far out of touch some of the self affirming political views can go in a insular party that up til now hasn’t faced any opposite views for decades.

  • GV, I think the average voter in CD15 is not particularly xenophobic nor particularly prone to fall for scare tactics. Indeed, this seems to be a calculation that Swalwell has made himself as he moves left on immigration.

    Politicians and even journalists tend to overestimate how conservative voters are because conservatives are, frankly, noisier (I’m the exception that proves the rule). But I’m left with the fact that despite the fact that Stark was pretty ga-ga during the campaign and that he was attacked relentlessly by Swalwell and the press (including Josh), he did quite well. Even in those areas that had never voted for him before, he got about 2/3 of the vote that had gone to Democrats in previous elections.

  • Josh Richman

    @21 – If by “attacked relentlessly” you mean I accurately reported what he said and did, then yes, I suppose that’s true.

  • GV Haste

    #21, Marga, Oh great. One questions whether we should become the first state in the nation to allow someone who is in this country for only a few months, to sit in judgement on ourselves, in possibly the most critical event of our lives…a criminal trial..

    And for questioning the wisdom of making such a drastic change to over 200 years of judicial process what does it get?

    Yes, out comes the “xenophobic” term.

    Don’t question our wise legislators, for they embody the very essence of our cultural and moral values.

    To doubt the wisdom of the Assembly breaking hundreds of years of tradition is a sure sign of “xenophobia”…

    To me, a vote on a jury, where you are 1 of 12, is many times more important than a vote at the ballot box where tens of thousands cast a vote.
    In a criminal jury, ONE SINGLE vote can decide if a person is incarcerated or set free.

    But if you question the wisdom of allowing a person, who grew up ten thousand miles away, in a entirely different culture and who has only been in California for a few months, then you are xenophobic.

    Will you please just STOP…
    I guess we’ve never allowed non citizens to serve on juries because we’re all xenophobes. Every single state, all xenophobic.

    Let the California legislature lead the way. The know what is best. I can’t imagine they’d do anything for purely political reasons.

  • Josh, there is no better way to attack a person than by using their own words and deeds. See my reference to Swalwell calling himself an “Obama Democrat” above 🙂

    But I don’t mean to imply that your reporting was unfair. It’s not your fault if one side has a better media strategy than the other 🙂

    GV, I’m not sure if you realize that jury’s decisions have to be unanimous. A single vote cannot decide if a person is incarcerated or set free – 12 votes are needed to decide that. At most a single vote can decide if there will be a mistrial. Interestingly I, who grew up ten thousand miles away, know this and you, who presumably, seem to be unaware of how our jury system actually works.

    The “length of residence issue” is, of course, a strawman. Citizenship does not equal residency – there are probably as many US citizens who’ve never lived in the US (e.g. most Puerto Ricans) as permanent residents who’ve lived here for decades.

    If you are really concerned with length of residence, then you can push for a law that sets a minimum time of residence for *every* juror.

  • Josh Richman

    @24 – Thanks, Marga… I think. I’d still caution that it wasn’t a matter of Swalwell’s media strategy but rather one of Stark’s long series of gaffes, including some accusations unsupported by facts. I was present for at least two of those (at the LWV forum in Hayward and at our editorial board meeting) and neither involved Swalwell’s media strategy – unless you mean a strategy of sitting back and watching a competitor stick his foot further and further into his mouth.

    I’ve told Congressman Swalwell flat-out that although he ran a vigorous campaign, I believe he would’ve lost had Stark not helped him so much.

  • GV Haste

    Marga, I am fully aware of how our jury system works.

    As written, by the wonderful Assemblyman Wieckowski, there is nothing in the bill that states there can be only one non-citizen on the jury.
    Indeed, in the bill as authored, the jury could be composed of 12 non-citizen jurors and each of those jurors need only have been in the country for a few months.

    That is just how stupid and ill conceived AB1401 is.

    I value my citizenship and part of that value is to have the right to be judged by a jury of my peers.
    You seem to be willing to throw that away so easily.
    I assume, given your role on the Central Committee that you had to be a citizen. There are some things that go along with being a citizen.

    Sounds like you might just as easily say that all non-citizens be allowed to vote even if they’ve only been in the country for a few months? Time enough to registar. Would you also support that?
    Is not serving on a jury a equally or more important duty and right?

    What zany bill. The first in the nation to suggest such a dramatic change on juries.
    One cannot imagine that all Democrats in the Assembly thought this was great. Hightlighting the method that legislation follows. Where the group decides what is politically correct and then everyone marches in order.

    Go ahead, Senator Corbett, vote yes on AB1401, then in 2014 tell the voters of CD15 how you want non-citizens to judge them in court regardless of how many “months” they’ve been in the country.
    90 days in America, not a problem, you’re on the jury as are the other 3 or 7 who just arrived.

  • Josh, but I supposed that you learned about many of these gaffes from Swalwell’s campaigns. The overall distasteful Torrico incident, for example.

    You didn’t cover ugly incidents by Swalwell as much, and maybe Stark’s campaign failed to manufacture them, but most likely they failed at communicating them.

    BTW, I’ve learned from watching my husband (who is pretty good at getting his stories covered, he was on the front page of the WSJ a few months back and on TV news shows across the country!) that a media strategy is much more than issuing press releases – it starts by forming good relationships with journalists. My bet is that STark failed to do that.

  • Josh Richman

    @27 – Au contraire, Marga; I had a great relationship with Pete Stark up until the point that I had to start writing about these gaffes (which as I said, I personally witnessed in more than one case – no “manufacturing” necessary). And, I’m happy to say, I’ve had a cordial conversation with him recently, too.

    Are there particular “ugly incidents by Swalwell” you have in mind? I’m not aware that he made any wholly unfounded accusations as Stark did; he certainly made issues of Stark’s age and residency, which some might have found distasteful.

  • Ro Khanna didn’t want to run against Congressman Eric Swalwell — pure and simple.

    Ellen Corbett’s campaign — or, by all appearances, complete lack thereof — wasn’t even a factor for him in that decisionmaking.

  • Josh, given that you were my primary source of information on that race, I don’t know that I would know of any other incidents 🙂

    But take Swalwell’s nasty attack on Stark’s vote against having “In God We Trust” be the national motto. Swalwell basically suggested that those of us who don’t believe in his god have any place in politics or public life. That’s something that you would expect to hear from Santorum, not a so-called Democrat. And yet, I don’t think it got any coverage from you during the campaign (I apologize if it did and I missed it).

    I’m glad that Stark was able to have a good relationship with you. Personally, I was incensed when he threw that camera crew out of one of his public meetings.

  • Bluecollar voter.

    I think it’s a mistake for Josh to assume Stark himself – his frequent gaffes – were the only reason he lost the campaign. Josh has said this repeatedly. What of this new top two voting system. Stark ran first in the primary, but then had to win over Republican and independents. He was ultra partisan Democrat, he lost – in large part because he was too partisan and too liberal for many Republicans and Independents, I think. With this new system you’ve got to be more moderate to win a seat, voters wanted it this way, they wanted to get rid of the ultra-partisan extremists in Congress – from both parties. I think this played a big role in Stark’s defeat, voters want problems solvers now, not partisan hacks like Stark or Mike Honda.

  • Outside the district

    Has any other post generated this many comments? Just curious.

  • Elwood

    ” It’s not your fault if one side has a better media strategy than the other”

    And it’s not Josh’s fault that Stark is a senile doddering old fool.

  • Elwood

    “BTW, I’ve learned from watching my husband (who is pretty good at getting his stories covered, he was on the front page of the WSJ a few months back and on TV news shows across the country!)”

    Was he indicted?

  • Not publicly, but given how things are going in this country, the age of secret indictments for political crimes, followed by secret trials by faceless judges is not far in the future.

  • Josh Richman

    @32- Yep.

    @31- You might be right, but I’ll be quicker to accept it as the main cause after I see the outcome of the Honda-Khanna race; I still think incumbency can be a powerful asset if the incumbent doesn’t screw it up.

    @30- I mentioned the “In God We Trust” thing here: http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2011/11/03/stark-offers-bills-opposes-doma-national-motto/

  • Elwood

    @ Marga #35

    Remember, just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.