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Southern California has unfair advantage in state bowls

By Kyle Bonagura
Monday, December 3rd, 2007 at 2:59 pm in General.

Kudos to the CIF for starting the state bowl games last year, but after this year is through it needs to take a look at how the classification system is run.

The way it is set up right now gives Southern California teams an advantage from the start.

What they tried to do is break up NorCal and SoCal into three divisions each so there could be a small, medium and large school championship, but the way they did it makes no sense. Basically they took the top third of the SoCal schools and made them D-I, then the same for NorCal. For D-II they took the middle third (based on school size) and for D-III it was the bottom third. Ok that may seem fair on first glance, but then we look to see where to cutoffs are made.

Division I
SoCal: 2,401 and up
NorCal: 1,751 and up
Division II
SoCal: 1,100 - 2,400
NorCal: 1,001 - 1,750
Division III
SoCal: 1 - 1,099
NorCal 1 - 1,000

The way this is setup means that some schools in D-I NorCal would be D-II in SoCal and vice versa.

San Ramon Valley is a perfect example oh how this could affect the state bowl picture. The Wolves are not even from the biggest size in NCS, but they are D-I for state bowl purposes. If the same team played 300 miles to the south it would be considered D-II.

Here is a list of good NorCal teams considered D-I that would be D-II in SoCal:
De La Salle
San Ramon Valley
Los Gatos
Serra
Vacaville
Foothill-Pleasanton
Newark Memorial
Grant-Sacramento

What would Foothill-Palo Cedro go against those teams? 2-6?

Now here are some SoCal schools in D-II that would be in D-I in NorCal:
Edison-Fresno
Oceanside-San Diego (good shot at playing in Carson)
Crenshaw
Centennial-Bakersfiled
Mater Dei-Santa Ana
St. John Bosco
Dorsey-LA

Next year there should be 5 Divisions — like basketball — and the way they divide the teams should be state-wide not one way in NorCal and another way in SoCal.

-Kyle Bonagura

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4 Responses to “Southern California has unfair advantage in state bowls”

  1. dmiller Says:

    Very interesting Kyle, but I feel the better question is, why do you have so much extra time on your hands?

  2. Kyle Bonagura Says:

    Finding the 15 minutes it took to do that was tough, but the tv writers strike has opened up my schedule.

  3. eastbayscout Says:

    i agree…nor cal is at a complete disadvantage. Only way to truly do it right is to get rid of NCS, CCS, etc., etc. Make 7 divisions including Class A and B. So really just DI, DII, DIII, DIV, DV.. Then invite 32 teams in each division to the playoffs split amongst northern and southern. Then play a true state championship amongst them for each classification. 2400 and above prob DI, 2100-2400 dII, 1800-2100 dIII, 1200-1800 DIV, 1200 and below DV. Also, this would not extend the fball season any longer, it would be 5 weeks of playoffs max, which is where it is currently possible to go.

    Just a thought.

  4. MTRUMAC Says:

    AS USUAL KYLE–YOU WERE RIGHT ON AND LIKED THE WAY YOU ANSWERED DMILLER. WE IN FREMONT APPRECIATE YOUR WRITINGS AND PARTICULARLY YOUR HUMOR. LOOKING FORWARD TO SPRING AND YOUR COVERAGE OF BASEBALL. BY THE WAY, FOR YOUR INFORMATION. LOGAN MOZZETTI SUFFERED A FRACTURED HAND IN THE PINOLE GAME AND IS WEARING A CAST. KNOW YOU LIKE TO KEEP TRACK OF OUR KIDS AND YOUR INTEREST IS APPRECIATED BY THE PLAYERS AND BY ME..

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