Comments on: Updated: NCS 3-A East Bay Baseball Bracketology

By: grizzlyboy

grizzlyboy — Sun, 18 May 2008 07:28:00 +0000

funny how we are #1 seed and at home and got blown out by juniorcollege notsoamusementpark

and we’rent we bichampionslast yaer and now only lvm is on top! well goodluck to ebal schools we rooy for u

By: Hugo Norton

Hugo Norton — Sun, 18 May 2008 04:36:59 +0000

Cumulative runs should NEVER be a deciding factor. That only encorages teams to run up the score when the opportunity presents, which is not in keeping with good sporting behavior. I agree the “second game” concept is deeply flawed, though it does sort of recognize the team that is playing better at the end. I actually would rather play it out on the field…if a winner needs to be decided, why not play a 3rd game between the squads?…Season is TOO SHORT anyway. In the end, I guess since both teams make the playoffs the stakes (seeding) are not high enough to matter too much….imagine though, if it was ONLY the winner that went to the NCS tourney….then the 2nd game winner concept would be a total travesty…

Without any “unbeatable” team in the mix, this should be a good tourney regardless of where the seedings fall.

By: Michael Bower

Michael Bower — Sun, 18 May 2008 00:52:19 +0000

Believe me, when I did my predicted seedings I had a really tough time. Beside No. 1 and No. 2 I have no clue how this should shake out. I can see everyone’s point of view on Arroyo being ahead of O’Dowd. I can see a lot of things, though. We will have to see what the committee does. I don’t think the seeding will matter much. This should be a great tournament.

By: ErnDog

ErnDog — Sun, 18 May 2008 00:37:08 +0000

Tiebreaker to the team that wins the second of two meetings just isn’t right. Use cumulative run totals for the two games and whomever has the most…they win the league title.

To determine who possibly gets a home game in the NCS playoffs simply due to the date the game was played on….is WRONG…

By: Hugo Norton

Hugo Norton — Sun, 18 May 2008 00:06:59 +0000

Bottom line for me is that I don’t want to see BOD and Arroyo as 8 and 9 seeds (in whatever order) and have to play again…obviously that game is a tossup, but I feel it is difficult for HAAL to get any kind of respect if we have to knock each other out…seed both teams in the top 8, and I will be fine with that…BOD, as an automatic bid should get a home game to start the NCS tourney, and they should not have to play a team they have already played twice to advance….basically, the same thing for Arroyo….they should be able to advance without eliminating an HAAL opponent….I personally feel they both might do well in the NCS if allowed to advance against teams from other leagues…I mean, the initial premise of the article is the top three seeds were from the same league, thereby eliminating any chance those squads would play each other until the end…even though the HAAL gets no love (and I understand why)…that still does not change the fact that there are two stong teams in the league

By: EBAL Fan

EBAL Fan — Sat, 17 May 2008 23:14:12 +0000

ErnDog,

Most leagues give the tiebreak to the team which has the better second half of the season. EBAL is the same way. Hope that helps..

By: ErnDog

ErnDog — Sat, 17 May 2008 22:32:33 +0000

Jeff Wood, I appreciate your comments but consider this. I have already identified the four losses this year for Arroyo. Since we already know that both O’Dowd and Arroyo swept the league, lets look at the non-league games.

Arroyo has a shutout victory over San Ramon Valley, a win over NCS 2-A contender Albany in a 8-0 shutout and over Pittsburg (another 8-0 shutout) and Pittsburg has wins over BOTH Clayton Valley and DeLa Salle.

Given this overview, one must conclude that the stronger non-league wins were by Arroyo.

But you know what??? This is just baseball…baseball pure and simple. BEST GAME EVER!!!

GO DONS!!! and see you in the NCS!!!

By: Tom Meyer

Tom Meyer — Sat, 17 May 2008 21:12:11 +0000

Irvington beat Newark today to win the league playoffs

By: Jeff Wood

Jeff Wood — Sat, 17 May 2008 20:51:39 +0000

O’Dowd has wins over:

Berkeley
Marin Catholic
Arroyo
St. Mary’s (Stockton) (who beat DLS)
Swept Castro Valley

Losses to:
Cal High
Liberty (1-0 pitcher’s duel)
Arroyo
Granada
Encinal (just one of those days)

And their last loss was on March 26th…

They have won 13 in a row, and their pitching staff has allowed 5 runs in the past 6 games….better to be hot late than hot early. Even though the rule is completely arbitrary, since they beat Arroyo in game 2, they are the automatic bid and should be higher seeded…not to take anything away from Arroyo, because they are also a great team….the real thing is that since the HAAL gets no respect, it is percieved that no way two teams can be good from that league…

In reality, both teams are in the top 10 in runs scored in the NCS, and both teams have ERA’s under 3…and this after BOD had a woeful start pitching wise….once the pitcher’s settled down, the team got pretty tough…might be interesting to see just how many teams in the mix have won 13 in a row playing in ANY league…

By: Kyle Bonagura

Kyle Bonagura — Sat, 17 May 2008 19:17:53 +0000

Tom-

The MVAL comment was more about the depth of the league — there are a lot of gimmes, so the record is padded more than if Newark played in a league where it was challenged every game.

No doubt Irvington is a good team this year, no one is saying otherwise.