- East Bay Prep CornerEast Bay Football Super Poll
By Jimmy Durkin
Monday, September 22nd, 2008 at 4:06 pm in east bay super poll.
Week 4 of the poll is here. We’re missing one voter today so the point totals are down a little bit. We’ve got some shifting around the top with Cal falling a spot by just one point. I personally don’t think they should have but I guess it’s Monte Vista’s reward for beating a top-5 team so I can’t complain too much. San Ramon Valley falls a spot after beating No. 10 San Leandro and Pittsburg stays the same after a close loss to our new No. 2. Two new teams debut in the poll and several teams grab votes for the first time. Let us know what you think.
| Team | Record | Points | Last week |
| 1. De La Salle (10) | 2-0 | 150 | 1 |
| 2. Monte Vista | 2-0 | 131 | 4 |
| 3. California | 1-1 | 130 | 2 |
| 4. San Ramon Valley | 2-0 | 124 | 3 |
| 5. Pittsburg | 1-1 | 110 | 5 |
| 6. Foothill | 2-0 | 99 | 6 |
| 7. Las Lomas | 2-1 | 90 | 7 |
| 8. Freedom | 3-0 | 79 | 8 |
| 9. San Leandro | 0-2 | 62 | 10 |
| 10. Bishop O’Dowd | 2-0 | 57 | 12 |
| 11. Berkeley | 2-0 | 50 | 11 |
| 12. Encinal | 2-0 | 40 | 14 |
| 13. College Park | 1-1 | 22 | NR |
| 14. Newark Memorial | 2-1 | 19 | 9 |
| 15. Deer Valley | 2-0 | 10 | NR |
Others receiving votes: Miramonte (3-0) 9, Campolindo (3-0) 5, James Logan (0-2) 5, Granada (2-0) 4, McClymonds (2-0) 3, Castlemont (0-1-1) 1.
[You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.]
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:18 pm
So let me get this straight, San Leandro gains a spot after losing, Cal barely drops at all after losing, Pittsburg stays the same after losing, SRV DROPS a spot after WINNING, and Foothill stays the same after beating a ranked team. I understand that who you play is important, but not as important as the difference between winning and losing. I guess at this point, the outcome of the games doesn’t matter since you’ve already decided who the top teams are regardless of what happens on the field each week.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:25 pm
With San Ramon Valley, it wasn’t so much falling a spot as it was Monte Vista gaining a spot for a strong win. Cal only drops one spot because of the quality of its loss. Sure there’s difference between winning and losing but a poll is voted on based on who we think is the best team. Period. End of sentence. If a team proves more in a loss to an elite level team (.ie, Cal’s loss to Bellevue) than another team in a win (.ie, SRV’s win over a good San Leandro team, but a win that showed they don’t have an elite level defense), then we’ll vote that way. There’s not a specific formula to a poll. It’s an opinion and opinions are much more subjective than objective.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Who you beat and how the game is played definitely matters. Cal traveled on a plane for the first time ever and played the best team in the state of Washington to the wire, it shouldn’t be punished for that. If it had beaten Mission San Jose by 50 it would be less of an indicator of how good the team is. But one is a win and one is a loss.
SRV fell a spot because a lot of people weren’t sold on Monte Vista until it went out and beat a team some people considered the No. 2 or 3 team in the area. That was enough to jump SRV (plus Cal and Pitt), which squeaked out a win against a good team (but one that is now 0-2). SRV hasn’t been impressive as Monte Vista so far, that’s taking into account what happened on the field — remember SRV started ahead of MV.
Foothill stayed the same because it was an ok win against Logan, which lost to MV 45-13. The team it is behind (Pitt) lost on a last second field goal to MV, so even in the losing effort that was a good showing.
How would you rank the top-150 Got2go?
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:28 pm
and Jimmy beats me to the response for the second week in a row…
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:29 pm
And Cal and Pittsburg have elite level defenses after giving up 30+ points each?
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Oh and also, I had Foothill and Pitt swapped and I think that would make more sense given Foothill’s two wins against ranked opponents. And San Leandro moves up because Newark, which was ahead of them, got destroyed and nobody below the Pirates has done enough to warrant a move up.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:33 pm
My top 10 would be:
1. DLS
2. MV
3. SRV
4. Foothill
5. Cal
6. Pittsburg
7. Freedom
8. Las Lomas
9. BOD
10. DV/Berkeley (tie)
How San Leandro is even in the top 15 at 0-2 baffles me.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:37 pm
It goes more into what Kyle said about SRV not being as impressive all year along as Monte Vista. Sure, Kyle gave up 34 — the same total as SRV — but the conditions were much different. And no disrespect to the HAAL and San Leandro, but Pitt giving up 32 to an EBAL team in Monte Vista is much different than giving up 34 to San Leandro. Everyone knows the EBAL is all about offense, so even good defenses will give up a lot to an EBAL squad. Until EBAL play starts, so much of the position is up the air based on just small little things. But once league play starts, all this won’t matter because it’ll get settled on the field.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:37 pm
You think SRV should be No. 3 even though it needed a last minute touchdown to beat a team you don’t think should be in the top-15? And Cal should be behind SRV for playing a 1-score game with the best team in Washington?
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:39 pm
San Leandro is still top 15 because their performance on the field shows they are one of the 10 best teams in the area. We don’t look at 0-2. We look at how good a team is. O’Dowd is good, but who have they beat? San Leandro stretching SRV to the limit is more impressive than a 35-14 win over Kennedy and O’Dowd people will even agree there. I’m not opposed to Berkeley in the top 10. I’ve seen both their games and they’ve impressed. But we’ll know a lot more after this week’s game at Pitt.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Got2go, it does seem like there is some teams that are ranked based on what they did in previous years and not this year. It’s still early in the season. In a coupla weeks it should clear up.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Kyle, yes I do think SRV should be ahead of Cal. And they should be until they lose a game. Remember, SRV beat San Leandro at home which means it’s really more than a narrow victory.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:49 pm
I think the poll came out fine. The only thing that baffles me is how College Park is ranked better than Newark. Newark beat College Park two weeks ago.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:52 pm
The way Newark got destroyed by Milpitas on Friday 28-3, they shouldn’t even be on the poll. Newark has no pass defense, they can only stop runs. If Newark played teams that can throw the ball, they’re done for…
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I’m not seeing anyone other than Foothill playing good defense so far this year.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Oh, and we aren’t going to rank teams based on just wins and losses. And let me get this straight…if San Leandro went and beat Mission San Jose and Balboa the last two weeks then that is better than a last-minute loss to San Ramon Valley?
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I have no problem with the poll, although I think Cal is at least number 2. Just for the record though, the score of our game with Kennedy could have been whatever BOD wanted it to be. Bench was cleared at 35-0, right after half.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:55 pm
I’m with you Bower. I specifically voted Newark one spot ahead of CP because of the head-to-head win. I think people just saw that Newark got blasted and punished them.
And Got2go, you focus too much on wins and losses. Like Kyle said, Cal could’ve stayed home and beat a Mission by 100 and because of that people would be saying they should be No. 2, but that’s a million times less telling than what they did at Bellevue. It would be easy to rank teams just based on “this team won, move ‘em up, this team lost, move ‘em down” and trust me, some voters do. But I think most of us feel its better to look at things subjectively.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Got2- Yeah, but you said San Leandro shouldn’t be in the top-15. So they are the 3rd best team, but barely beat a team you don’t feel worthy of even being ranked? Cal traveled too… on and airplane and stayed in a hotel. That is a lot tougher of a road game even before you factor that they were playing Washington’s best team.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Thanks for that clarification O’Dad. I was going off what our free lancer wrote and that included quotes from Perenon that indicated he was none too pleased with how his team played.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Well, it will all come out in the wash in a few weeks once EBAL play starts.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Got2- Something we agree on haha.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Got2Go, I am trying to figure out who your team is from all your talk, since I dont think you’ve mentioned it. Foothill? DLS?
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Kyle, you’ve got to take off those rose-colored Cal glasses.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Comment 21 is definitely something we can all agree on.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:00 pm
O’Dad, I don’t have a team I root for. I just like hs football in general.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Well, I’d say more people agree with me based on how the poll shook out…. And I really don’t care who wins, I’ll call it how I see it.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Yea, Jimmy. Coach was right, the starters slept-walked to a 35-0 lead while playing at 50% speed. But they still lead 35-0 when coach pulled them for lack of effort… and so it would’nt get out of hand-he has a friendship with Kennedy’s coach.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Fair enough and I respect that. That’s one of the things I’ve always liked about Perenon. Some coaches could learn from that. Without naming names or schools, I remember a time when I played against a certain powerhouse that has a couple players currently playing in the NFL. They were beating my team by about 40 late in the fourth quarter. After scoring a touchdown, they attempted and recovered an onside kick. Things like that are pointless and, obviously, not soon forgotten by the teams you do that to.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Got2go has some good points, though this is all subjective. League play will help determine who is strong, but not every “better” team wins every game, of course. Lots depends on match-ups, the coaching scouting and game plans, and injuries to key players/depth. What about number of returning players as a decent indicator of likely success? Is it true SRV has lesser number coming back (how many as starters?) than others?
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:49 pm
I definitely agree with kyle. As an MV fan, I am much more impressed by the way Cal traveled and lost a close game to a high quality team, than SRV coming behind to beat San Leandro. I was at the MV SL scrimmage and was not impressed with SL at all.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Newark should be ranked ahead of College Park. I don’t even know what to say about that. It should be a simple one seeing how Newark posted that 17-12 win over CP.
I think I’ve mentioned that Newark’s defense has some holes (and it was in the secondary). That’s where they miss the Gates twins.
Should be quite interesting when Washington and Newark clash.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
The secondary problems shouldn’t hurt against Logan, so that bodes well for the Cougs. I said it after Logan got blown out by Monte Vista, Logan does have talent. Just very inexperienced … you can already see the improvement in one week to play a close game against a good Foothill team.
Newark-Logan should definitely be a fun one. Irvington is good story so far too. Even the Irvington people can admit how bad that team was last year, good to see them start to turn it around a little bit. I still don’t know if they are ready to compete with Newark/Logan, but we’ll see.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:45 pm
What are your current rankings in the HAAL? I know CV has played a tougher schedule than Arroyo, O’Dowd & Tennyson. We will destroy all of those teams and what I see from San Leandro they are vulnerable to the pass and we can go to the air and on the ground. We will win the HAAL. San Leandro is the only team that could challenge us. But they are predictable and easy to stop. We proved that last year.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:48 pm
My HAAL Rankings & predictions
1. Castro Valley (8-2)
2. San Leandro (7-3)
3. Bishop O’Dowd(8-2)
4. Arroyo (6-4)
5. Hayward (6-4)
6. Tennyson (5-5)
7. San Lorenzo (2-8)
8. Mt.Eden(1-9)
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Let me throw this out there- I believe Cal would beat DLS if they played right now, but DLS will get them the last week of the season. DLS system will get more finely tuned as the season wears on, and their defensive issues ironed out by that time. Cal on the other hand, gets out of the gates strong and maintains a high level throughout the season, but doesn’t necessarily improve that much over the course of the year. Does anyone else see it this way? Also not sure DLS would beat Bellermine right now either, but, that’s not an east bay team…
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:09 pm
My current HAAL rankings:
1. San Leandro
2. Bishop O’Dowd
3. Castro Valley
4. Arroyo
5. Tennyson
6. Hayward
7. San Lorenzo
8. Mt. Eden
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:09 pm
I think DLS beats anybody in Norcal right now.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Some Questions for the HAAL?
1. San Leandro, Do you think those trick plays will help you against us this season?
2. Bishop O’Dowd, how much better does your team get when you play Kennedy of Fremont?
3. Arroyo, does anyone run the 40 in under 5 seconds on your team? Moreau is a bad JV team, don’t get too cocky.
4. Hayward, How do you give up 41 points to a San Francisco team? Please explain.
5. Tennyson, Mission San Jose? Overfelt? Who’s next? Moreau? Please.
6. San Lorenzo, Don’t you wish Moreau was back in the league? So you wouldn’t be the worst team?
7. Mt.Eden, 3 yards and cloud of dust doesn’t work when your down 34-0.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:14 pm
CV fan,
Your record predictions see to be off.
My HAAL Rankings & predictions
1. Castro Valley (8-2)
2. San Leandro (7-3)
3. Bishop O’Dowd(8-2)
4. Arroyo (6-4)
5. Hayward (6-4)
6. Tennyson (5-5)
7. San Lorenzo (2-8)
8. Mt.Eden(1-9)
If I am reading them the way
i think you are thinking CV will go undefeted in HAAL play, SL will only lose to you and BOD will lose to both you and SL,
Since you have SL at 7-3, you think the only loss for them the rest of the year will be to you. So then you think SL will beat Cal next week? And you have CV ending at 8-2 then you think CV will beat MV next week?
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Sorry, San Leandro will finish at 6-4 overall. They cannot touch Cal. But in our league they will be 5-2 good enough for 3rd place in the HAAL.
CV is better than we have shown. This week we will be a strong indicator of how good we can play.
A win this week will be the turning point of our championship season.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:22 pm
CV fan if you thing that CV can beat both SL and BOD by rushing for 65 yards and passing for 133 like you did last week against Berkeley you are crazy. You say SL was easy to stop last year but you still lost and if SL would have caught some passes the score would have been 28-7 SL
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:26 pm
I seen CV play Freedom in week 1, they’re just too inconsistent on offense. Their running game is almost non-existent. You have to average a lot more that 85 yards a game to be successful with a balanced attack. San Leandro and BOD have been known to be very good at stopping the run. CV on the other hand always has trouble against the run. The HAAL has been known to be very vulnerable against the pass. That’s why they always have trouble against the EBAL.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Hayward has shown they can run the ball with the rest. They have a nice three-headed monster in Jackson-Niuatoa-Yates. SL and BOD has too many playmakers for CV to overcome. Tennyson will shred CV’s secondary apart.
Mt. Eden
Here’s my HAAL prediction:
1) San Leandro
2) Bishop O’Dowd
3) Arroyo
4) Tennyson
5) Hayward
6) Castro Valley
7) San Lorenzo
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Berkeley has a good defense much better than San Leandro’s defense. We are better than we have shown. Not going to argue but talk to me next week & you will have a better understanding.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:52 pm
If CV beats MV, I WILL change my prediction!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:06 pm
You might wana lay off the crack pipe CV Fan
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Let me throw a hypothetical at you: If USC played San Jose St, San Diego St, and Baylor to open the season and crushed them all…..and Ohio State opened with LSU, Georgia, and Oklahoma only to get their hat handed to them, who would you pick to win between USC and Ohio State in week 4? I do believe it is admirable to play a strong pre-season schedule, and think it does make your team better in the long haul in most cases. However, some folks on here lose all perspective in thinking their team is great simply by pointing out who is on their schedule. BTW, the answer is USC would still kick OSUs behind.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 pm
O’Dad, it’s a combination of things. If No. 1 beats No. 2 by a score in which game could have been won by No. 2, but a mishap here and/or a bounce there cost ‘em, you could make the argument to cotinue to vote No. 2 at No. 2. Now there are some variables to that. But I think you get my point. Schedule plays a part, but how you play the game vs. those strong teams tells a lot.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:54 pm
CV fan,
You are retarded.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:34 pm
O’Dad,
Your hypothetical would not work. OSU is waaaay too scared to play any real teams before the BCS game. This was the 1st year since they played Texas and Vince Young that they have done that and we see how well it turned out this year. It would be more likely that USC would play real teams. Good hypo, but you cannot give OSU that much credit to play a real team early. That would show all voters how overrated they are way too early in the season. Just thought I would make a comment on the OVERRATED SUCKEYES
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:43 am
It doesn’t take a genius to figure out how Newark is ranked below College Park despite beating them…
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:22 am
Steve Waterhouse, I agree with you. I think you may have misunderstood me. In my earlier post, I was trying to say an arguement could be made for Cal High being #1, not argueing that they’re #2. My hypothetical was directed more to CV Fan and his over exuberance for his team because of their tough pre-season schedule. CV will be tough, no doubt, and I think Jordan is a great guy and coach.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:38 am
CV Fan #25,
I too saw CV play Freedom. Allowing over 500 yards of total offense isn’t going to win you many games.There offense didn’t look so great either.Looking at the stats vs. Berkeley I see more of the same not much improvement from Week 1.I seriously doubt they will do much of anything this week against MV. Last years SL game is just that last year. I watched SL SRV last week and came away impressed with their offense.QB Gardner WR Simpson & Rb Roberson all played very well. I’ve also seen BOD play although it was against Kennedy Fremont. Uninspired performance probably because of the quality of the opponent but they run the ball well with a couple of talented RBs. At this point in time I’d say that doesn’t bode well for CV during league. My prediction:
1 San Leandro
2 Bishop O Dowd
3 Castro Valley
4 Hayward
5 Tennyson
6 Arroyo
7 San Lorenzo
8 Mt Eden
CV Fan obviously you have some ties to this team but you need to be a bit more realistic about how good your team really is.
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:39 pm
CV #25. If you beat Monte Vista next week, I will agree to let you poop on my head for the rest of your life.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:24 pm
CV just needs to survive this week vs MV. They are loaded with injuries. Yes they have talent. But they have been beaten up after playing Freedom, Berkeley. In there 4 way scrimmage they played SRV, Deer Valley and Castlemont who is one the hardest hitting teams around. Plus they lost Dash Oliver for the season during the summer. Hopefully they”ll get there injured players back for league. If that happens they can play with anyone. The HAAL league season will be very intersting this year. CV has a brutal non league schedule. All the teams they have played are in the top 15. With the #2 team MV next. Oh my!!!
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:32 pm
I think that the Cal San Leandro game will be very interesting this week. It’ll make it a lot easier to see exactly where Cal is at in the east bay. If they beat SL by 21 then they should solidify their spot as the no.2 team in the east bay, but if they just barely squeak out a win like SRV, then it’ll just show how close together SRV, Cal, and MV really are and it should make Ebal play that much more interesting
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Don’t forget that it would also show where San Leandro is in the East Bay. Don’t be surprised if the Pirates hang tough in this one. Although, the way Green is running the ball and the way the Pirates’ defense isn’t stopping the run, it could get ugly. But I think this one is gonna be a good game.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:21 pm
yeah i’m not saying San Leandro is a bad team, they’re a great team with a great tradition of winning, i just think Cal will probably win this one, but i’ve seen stranger things then this before and i’m sure Sanchez isn’t going to take the pirates lightly. Anyway it will be a great game.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm
San Leandro may have one advantage in that Cal played on Sat in Washington, they probally did not fly out till Sun morning. That would mean they would have 2 days less prep time for SL.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Not really Dnrapp. The coaches had probably already started looking at San Leandro a bit and for players, prep time for a game doesn’t typically start until Monday anyway. A lot of teams may come in Saturday for film sessions, but that’s usually more reviewing the night before’s game rather than the next team. If anything, Cal may be a bit more fatigued, but I wouldn’t say they’ll have much less prep time.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:50 pm
John, I think you are mistaken by saying that Cal will solidify their spot as number 2 by stomping SL and show how close they are to SRV and MV by barely squeaking by. IF they do destroy SL they will show that they can hang with MV, a team that scored 4 touchdowns on a 10 minutes running clock against San Leandro and let up 1 touchdown due to a missed assignment. If they barely squeak by, I’ll be surprised at how overrated both Cal and Bellevue are.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:15 pm
I know what we have and what we are capable of doing on any given Friday. CV 27 MV 20.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:25 pm
that’s cute
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:18 pm
CV- Always good to believe your team will win, but if Monte Vista scored less than five touchdowns on Friday I would be shocked. Freedom and Berkeley are good, but offensively CV hasn’t seen a team with the offense Monte Vista has. I just don’t see any way the Trojans can hold Monte Vista to 20. Or win.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:28 pm
O’Dad- In response to the question you posed in #36
“Cal on the other hand, gets out of the gates strong and maintains a high level throughout the season, but doesn’t necessarily improve that much over the course of the year. Does anyone else see it this way?”
I don’t know if I necessarily agree with that. Here is why… Last year, during non-league Cal beat San Leandro and Mt. Eden by 1-TD each, both games were 21-14. Hardly impressive.
Then they went 6-1 in the EBAL and then beat Pitt 21-7, then Logan 27-9 in NCS and get to the finals.
September 24th, 2008 at 4:32 am
How high can Encinal go? It’s a long season, but they have a realistic shot at running the table during the regular season.
September 24th, 2008 at 9:52 am
I’d expect Encinal to continue to gradually move up, probably peak around 7 or 8. I agree they have the potential to run the table and the only thing that hurts them is they won’t face a ranked opponent until the playoffs. That’s not necessarily their fault — they were put in a new league and in the nonleague schedule they wanted to maintain some traditional rivalries. The St. Pat’s game on Oct. 31 is their biggest test and will help them but I’d expect, if they go 10-0, to see them around the 7 spot, maybe 6. If they ran the table in the playoffs, then you’d definitely see them go top 5.
September 24th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
CV fan,
Every team knows and thinks what they can do. However it’s what you actually do on the field. CV has scored 6 points against a good defense in Berkeley and 12 against a so-so defense in Freedom. What makes you think you can score 27 against MV. If Freedom can throw for 300 yards against your D, just imagine what MV will do. CV has not been consistent on offense or defense. What makes you think they can turn that around against a team like MV.
September 24th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
We have not played like we are capable of playing. We will turn you doubting thomases into believers.
September 24th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
By the way UC fan #11, “Tennyson will shred CV’s secondary”? Give me a break! We are much more talented than Mission San Jose! Last year, We underestimated Tennyson, they will not be so lucky this time. That’s why they call it an upset because it was a farce. It never should have happened!
September 24th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
CV 42 MV 20!!
September 25th, 2008 at 12:52 am
I was staying away from it, but since I just saw Castro Valley last week against Berkeley I figured I might as well chime in. CV Fan #25, 42-20? I like you supporting your team but be a little realistic and say something like 21-17 (also just 17 points from Monte Vista isn’t very realistic). After seeing CV score six against Berkeley, there’s no way they are capable of putting up 42 on anybody, no less Monte Vista. Berkeley’s a good defensive team, but they have some holes that can be exploited. CV doesn’t have the fire power to put up 42 in a game, especially against a good opponent. Granted, Monte Vista isn’t a team known for its defense, but I still don’t see any possible way they allow 42 to CV. Sorry.
September 25th, 2008 at 7:55 am
Obviously CV is more talented than Mission San Jose but Tennyson didnt throwthe ball all tht thy ran the ball duh.And MAX CARMONA IZ THE TRUTH HE PLAYING LIKE BRETT FARVE GETTInG EVERYBODY THE BALL THERE IZ NO LUIS NAZZARIO AT T-HIGH
September 25th, 2008 at 11:28 am
CV fan,
I have no ties with any school. From what I’ve seen from Freedom’s QB and what I’ve seen from Tennyson’s QB, Carmona is so much more talented than Rodriguez and he threw for 300 yards. For the HAAL sake, I really hope that CV beats MV but that is like Oregon St beating USC tonight.
September 25th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Hey UC Fan #11,
I guess Castro Valley is going to beat Monte Vista now, eh?