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O’Dowd-Marin Catholic Preview
By mbower
Friday, November 28th, 2008 at 10:26 am in Uncategorized.
Most football teams with a 10-1 record and in the North Coast Section Division III quarterfinals would have the respect of the East Bay. But that’s not the case for Bishop O’Dowd this season.
Many feel the Dragons are a product of a soft schedule, which included opponents that went a combined 46-67.
O’Dowd’s only loss was a blowout, 40-13, to Hayward Area Athletic League champion San Leandro.
The Pirates finished the season 7-4 — the best record out of any opponent the Dragons have played thus far.
So, many believe the No. 4 seeded Dragons are pretenders and not contenders to win the NCS crown.
But Bishop O’Dowd will have a chance to open the eyes of all the doubters with a victory on Saturday.
The Dragons, coming off their first playoff victory since winning the NCS 2-A title in 2004, will host No. 5 Marin Catholic (8-3) at 1 p.m. in the NCS Division III quarterfinals.
The Wildcats finished in second place in the Marin County Athletic League. It’s only loss in league play came to the No. 3 seed in the NCS Division III field, Novato (9-2). Marin lost to St. Ignatius-San Francisco (5-5) and Notre Dame Prep-Arizona (12-0) outside of league play.
“They are very solid and well coached,” Dragons coach Paul Perenon said of the Wildcats. “The scariest team we played all year was Hayward in terms of talent and speed. The team we are playing (Saturday) is like Hayward minus the speed. But I think (Marin Catholic’s) line plays better and is a little more disciplined and they probably play harder on offense than Hayward does.”
Stopping the Wildcats offense starts by slowing down their 6-foot, 210-pound brusing tailback, Nico Dumont.
The senior has rushed for 963 yards and 14 TDs in 11 games this season.
The Wildcats don’t run an exact Wing-T offense, but do run plenty of misdirection plays that cause problems for defenders that overpursue.
“We have to be patient defensively,” Perenon said. “We have to stay home and let their misdirection stuff come back to us.”
The formula for the Dragons’ offensive success has been simple this season — get the ball into the hands of tailbacks Mario Brown and Che’rod Simpson.
Brown, a gamebreaker, led the HAAL in rushing this season, finishing with 1,462 yards and 20 TDs in 10 games. He ran for 210 yards and a TD on 15 carries in last week’s 35-14 victory over Tamalpais.
Simpson, a brusing back, was fourth in the HAAL with 969 yards and 10 TDs.
“It’s not going to be anything different than what we have done all year long,” Perenon said. “We are going to play to the strength of our football team.”
And the Dragons are anxious to show the doubters just how strong they are.
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November 28th, 2008 at 10:34 am
O’Dowd has this Titan fan’s respect. This is the game that JFK wants to play again.
November 28th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Keep on wishing Diz.
November 28th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
O’Dowd to win it in a close one. I like the look of the O’Dowd D-Line that NT of theirs, William Hodgman is a real Beast, he has D-1 written all over him.If both Teams are fully fit then my money is on O’Dowd all the way. If the O’Dowd O-Line can function as well as their D then it is an O’Dowd win for sure.
MC had better give the ball plenty of air in order for them to have a chance of winning, there will be nothing down the middle for Dumont and the O’Dowd DBs are real suspect. MC shoots more then they will win this one and O’Dowd’s season is finished.
November 28th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I agree hogman is a great defensive line who has great size and strength and will be a load to handle I wish I had tht size
November 28th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
BOD has been a different team since their QB went down in the SL game and it is not a good different. Whatever passing threat they had is gone now. All teams need to do is try to shut down the run game.
I question this quote by Coach P:
“The scariest team we played all year was Hayward in terms of talent and speed.”
He sure must have something against SL if he thinks Hayward had more talent and speed than SL.
November 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Marin catholic 28 BOD 0
November 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Its the 2nd q
November 29th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Halftime: MC 28, BOD 0
Novato 28, Fortuna 7
November 29th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
the season is half away from being over in the HAAL
November 29th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
42-14 MC with 9 minutes left
November 29th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
FINAL:
22-15 Justin-Siena beats Ferndale
November 29th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
novato update?
November 29th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Well,well,well the results are in thevotes are tallied and yes it is over. The much overrated bod dragons finally played a good team besides san leandro and guess what they got, whooped. Sorry to kick a team when they’re down but the ongoing disrespect of one of the best 22 man teams deserves to be heard.{THE Encinal Jets aka Nailhouse}. I said a long time ago along with many others that when u play cupcakes long enough u eventually become one.Which of course was proven today at Their own house.What made Bod think they had a chance with the predictability and boring offense they run. Stop mario Brown and what do u have? Zero. Anyway, Marin cath. is good no doubt, but i think we will be well prepared for them and feel pretty good about our chances at home. And for still all the naysayers{who probably never seen us play and are sitting athome} bring it on.See u at the top baby!
November 29th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
wow, MC came to play. hats off to the wildcats. guess I’ve got plans for Friday night!
novato won 52-7. lost a couple defensive starters to serious looking knee/leg injuries. one fortuna player taken to the hospital on a stretcher/backboard with a head/neck injury. think good thoughts for #44, Jose Aguilar I believe.
November 29th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
who were the two defensive starters?
November 29th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Marin catholic and encinal sounds good
November 29th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
BOD got thy ass whooped O’Dad enough said their should b no argument because If i recall u put the HAAL Dlinemen of the year down a few weeks back after thy go their ass kicked by u guys and he had like 10 tackles and it doesnt matter BOD lost and some people on here seen ur guys big baby Chris Martin get his ass kicked so stop crying and relize what O Dowd had coming back they should be in the state title conversation!!!!!
November 29th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Only one was a starter and he was skipping on the sidelines by the end of the game….the other hasn’t started since the beginning of the season
November 30th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Tito, you rcomments of Chris Martin being a “big baby” are hilarious because if i recall you saying “some people on here seen” means you did not attend the game. Therefore you don’t know sh*t, just like most of these people on this blog that try to downplay one kid to make their mediocre team/player(s) look much better. Granted MC did whoop BOD, but one man cannot stop a well coached TEAM. Thats only something someone who had HALF a brain about football would know. So as far as the stabs at Chris Martin. Tell Charlie Weis, Pete Carrol, Jim Harbaugh, Mike Belloti, etc.. if Chris is a big baby. Now let this be done and move on.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:10 am
Gotta love that BOD Coach Perenon. Of course the scariest team they played was Hayward in terms of talent and speed they won that game. I guess when you are on the receiving end of a 40-13 beatdown of your D1 stacked team by SL you put that out of your memory as quickly as possible.That quote is almost as good as last year when he was saying he wished they could have a rematch with SL at the end of the year because they were playing so well then they got bounced by YV in the first round of NCS. They are year in and year out one of the most overrated teams in the Bay Area. It’s no wonder so many people dislike BOD. Someone may want to remind him that SL just completed its second consecutive undefeated league championship season. Go Pirates!
December 1st, 2008 at 9:46 am
i’ve been telling u guys all year there overrated but o’dad would come on here talkin them up . peronon can’t beat good teams,that’s why now he’ll play skyline duck encinal & miramonte, castlemont.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:50 am
u wanna talk overrated lets talk chris martin. he’s all right but the hype just doesnt live up to wat i’ve seen him do on the field. dumont ran him over atleast 3 times on saturday, d-1 schools like him for his size i know that. he was not a factor on saturday i thought big players make big plays.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:08 am
good comment billjohnson
December 1st, 2008 at 10:15 am
billjohnson,
It appears he falls into the traditional football recruiting system. Look for the kids who fit into certain dimensions. Size, strength, speed. Colleges always feel they can make any kid with the “proper dimensions,” a player because they know there’s not very strong coaching at a lot of high schools. That leaves kids who don’t “fit the bill,” under the radar, which is sad. It sounds like Martin is getting a pass because he fits the profile.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:18 am
As for O’Dowd, I really don’t think anyone outside of the school thought that team was as good as O’Dad felt they were.
But props to O’Dowd for fighting for his team. That’s what he’s supposed to do and the same thing the rest of us do for our schools.
It’s easier to be objective when you are on the outside looking in and can see the real talent level of a team, which is the position most of us were able to evaluate O’Dowd.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:51 am
Michael Bower,
When is the HAAL all league and offensive and defensive POY coming out on the newspaper?
December 1st, 2008 at 10:56 am
Never.
December 1st, 2008 at 12:38 pm
I heard tomorrow
December 1st, 2008 at 1:42 pm
EBAL Fan, thanks. All I have done is stand up for my team knowing it was maybe a futile exercise. Talent level is not the problem, though. Oh yea, billjohnson go fu*k yourself. You dont know, what you dont know.
December 1st, 2008 at 2:05 pm
O’Dad must be Martins dad.
December 1st, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Ya think?
December 1st, 2008 at 9:12 pm
So for the geniuses of this board. Since everyone likes to have my name in their mouth about what they “seen” OR WANT to see. I just watched the film of Marin Catholic and not ONCE did i see myself on my back. No doubt Nico was hard to bring down and I as well as MY TEAM brought him down on plays where it was able to. But for some of you who don’t have half a brain about football. THEY WERE A BETTER OVERALL TEAM than us that day. So the whole jabs at one kid in highschool shows the immaturity of a young kid, OR the fact that a grown man has NO LIFE and NOTHING better than to take personal blows at a 17 year old teenager just playing football. But if any of you would like to see the film of the game that i was put on my back several occasions i can supply it for you. Stop by Bishop O’ Dowd anytime from 8-3 I’ll be there.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:40 pm
For all you fathers that want to be coaches and hope their sons get recruited by anyone – just remember in a couple of years, get your popcorn and beer ready for Saturday college football. I beleive the kid that you think was on his behind most of the game, had his name announced on the majority of the tackles, I believe 95%. Now lets think for a moment – when is the last time you could say that about your kid??? Ummm…NEVER! Chris is going to go far, probably a lot farther than you and your son sitting on your Lay-Z-Boy chairs on Saturdays. Get over the jealousy about this child – he’s just blessed with talent….Definitely come watch him play basketball – oh yeah, he can play that too. Check with the colleges that are recruiting him for that as well.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Man, oh man. Has it really come down to this? So much hating on BOD, why? Are the naysayers those parents or players from Hayward, Tennyson, Mt Eden, San Lorenzo, Kennedy, San Rafael, Alameda, Castro Valley, Arroyo or Tamalpais? Or maybe the big bad SL Pirates who were so superior, yet got bounced in their first playoff game?
People – you need to focus your comments and congratulations to Marin Catholic team for great coaches, players and also their fans. Unlike billjohnson, Young Sav and EBAL from this board, they showed, class, intelligence and respect for BOD – who they are and what they’ve done. The aforementioned billjohnson and Young Sav clearly live in their grandmother’s basement and probably never played competitive sports in their miserable lives. EBAL shows some intelligence in the comments he/she makes, but fails to recognize that Chris Martin is more than just a recruit based on ‘proper dimensions’. As O’Dad points out – check with USC, UCLA, Colorado, Stanford, Notre Dame, Oregon and others. Not only the head coaches will sing his praises, but the lieutenants around them would love to have him in their system. Mark my words – his signing day will be a big deal and a proud moment for his family, Bishop O’Dowd and Bay Area high school football overall.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Chris is a great football player and congradulations to him and the martin family. I enjoyed playing against BOD this and last even tho we got beat but hey your playin in a great program at O Dowd jus work hard with your guys coming back and do it big nxt year and all the people on here r HATERS tht have prolly never played on the field ur goin to a Big Time Div 1 program and I’m prolly goin to end up at q mid major or 1aa but its all good its a BLESSING FROM GOD
December 1st, 2008 at 11:34 pm
all i know was that nico dumont was the best player on the field saturday. hey martin when did u come up in make tackle in the backfield? when marin was driving when did u step up and make a play for your team? every tackle u made 7,8 yards past the line of scrimmage. o’dad u say the talent level is not the problem then wat is?
December 1st, 2008 at 11:54 pm
runningdog of course marin catholic showed respect. u let them in your house and they did watever they wanted. how u gonna b a 4 seed & get slapped up at home? 28-0 at half! u guys got embarassed on your own field. damn how many times that golf cart come on the field?
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:59 am
I don’t know whether Billjohnson is an adult or a kid, but like i said if you had any sense. Their scheme was perfect against us. Their offensive line had foot to foot splits and four lead blockers and then nico. So if you think that a one man show was going to defeat Marin Catholic who is a well sounded TEAM than you (with all do respect) are an IDIOT. Because any person with half a brain could see that one man would not be able to take over that game on defense. It would of had to have been a team effort. Key example of how a one man show doesn’t cut it. Cierre Wood, running back out of Oxnard who plays for Santa Clara. Five Star player on rivals. Highly recruited running back going to Notre Dame, played Oaks Christian a well coached TEAM and one man couldn’t get by them. They got their a** whooped that game on TV. So i’m not going to sit here and argue with someone who had nothing else better to do with their life than blog about a 17 year old kid. Get a life pal, and for the rest of the incompetent people on the board. Quit trying to downplay one person, it doesn’t work. NOBODY reads the board but BAY AREA people. So the fact that you people think that this is getting somewhere or going to hurt my reputation. YOU THOUGHT WRONG. Goodbye, and may God bless all of you that need something better to do in life than blog on Oakland Tribune Prep Corner.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:19 am
Teachable moment,
That golf cart did enter the field 2 too many times. I didnt like the way Brown was asked off the field by the referee after Brown made the worst grimace and scowl look of all time. I saw your coaches and they wanted no part of that grimace. Brown was lucky the refs was sympathetic. Treat this as a teachable moment, the entire crowd knew you were playing hard fella. Thunder, both feet in the air while getting escorted off the field didn’t look good…I wonder if he is Ok. Ricky Walker was the same way.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:27 am
Billjohnson, you know what it is, and I wont argue that point.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:31 am
o’dad how do feel about ur chances next year then? cause he’s gonna do the same as this season give the ball 30 times to brown.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 am
o’dad i told u that weak non-league would haunt u guys. it doesnt get u prepared 4 san leandro or any good team u may see in ncs. peronon’s not foolin anyone.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:40 am
o’dad don’t know where u live but get your son outta bod cause next year all i see is more of the same. check out the local public schools. playin skyline, sacred heart aint prepare know one to beat marin catholic, ygnacio valley, san leandro.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Im hearing you..
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:55 pm
cmartin i dont expect u to takeover the game your not that kinda player but i do expect u to make an impact play from time 2 time. they went foot 2 foot but wat about there base offense when they where in shotgun big splits never did make a tackle 4 a loss or fill on power and met dumont in the hole. u made contact 7,8,9 yards down field. best player on o’dowd is mario brown he carried u guys all year. he is the tean MVP!
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:06 pm
cmartin,o’dad isnt this the same offense you’ve seen the last 3 years in ncs? the great paul peronon still has’nt figured out how 2 stop it?
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:34 pm
You just wont let it go. It’s my fault for even being on a forum such as this. I do not know if there is a single poster on here that even knows what a D1 player looks like while playing. Some think they do, but their own comments make them out to sound stupid. I do know that coach Carroll has told me on 2 or 3 occasions that Chris is the best player(not body type), player, that has come out of Northern Cal in a few years(since josh tatum and schweiger)-and that was as a soph. But I will leave this board to the experts such as you, Billjohnson and others that dont know what they dont know. You have some very compelling arguments concerning O’Dowd recent lack of playoff success, but seem to think that gives you the right to say anything and it’s to be believed. From the jump this year, its been a constant barrage of players on here trying to get selected to an all-league team and an all east bay team by knocking someone else down with small truths mixed with big lies. The adults like you, have been trying their hardest to drive a wedge between Chris and Mario. Like all players, my son would be honored to be on all-league or all-east bay. But you know what? Not a single college coach of the dozens that we talk to,not one, has ever asked or cared, if chris made all-league or all-east bay. You know why? Of course you dont. Because when they study and evaluate film of a player, they know a player when they see one. I have only responded on here because my son has been called out by name, several times. I have not done that except when a player did it once, and that was to call him on his BS which he owned up to. I should not be on here talking about this stuff, but, have been a regular from day one because I thought I was amongst high school football fans that wanted to talk some ball and have some friendly fun. I was wrong, and it’s little wonder my son wants out of here asap. Btw, signing day is 2 months away. Where are all these guys going that are supposed to be so much better than Chris? I’m not talking about his friends- Joe and Zach. They are studs and I know where they are going, before a possible career in the league. I know where Avery is going. Also, Leno has a lot of options. I’m curious about all these others…
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Don’t worry we goin somewhere buddy roe you’ll see just worry about u and yours at o dowd
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Desmond, I believe you will. Good luck wherever you end up.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:57 pm
thnx tell chris I said CONGRATS ON THE FIRST TEAM ALL HAAL DEFENSE AND GOOD LUCK NEXT SEASON AND PROVE ALL THESE GUYS WRONG ON HERE AND GET A NCS RING
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 pm
ccs
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Where to?
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Well said O’Dad. I know many of us on here appreciate the reasoned and thoughtful comments you often provide.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Who is Chris Martin? I don’t believe I’ve ever said any of that nonsense…
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 am
haha we have an imposter.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:57 am
At the end of the day, if you want to argue with parents/supporters about the quality of their teams, but taking a high school kid to task is over the top. We all ought to be rooting for the local kids from all leagues to be successful — it makes NorCal look that much better. None of us know whether a kid is going to be a college star or not when they are in high school. Will Chris Martin will be a big time college player? Who knows, but he should have all of our support. There have been cases where some kids appeared to be a can’t miss, while others like Dave Moretti of Foothill was deemed to be too small to play linebacker, went to a JC for one year, then started for two years at Oregon. If someone can get their college paid for and get some sort of college football experiance, then more power to them.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:05 am
EBAL,
Preach on.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:00 am
Amen
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:32 am
o’dad please correct me if i’m wrong. all i said was your boy never made a tackle 4 a loss or came up and made a big play to help he’s team get off the field. these r facts! damn o’dowd has the best linebacker in northern cali and can’t stop the run it’s ashame. give me nico dumont i like players who help there team win. u play 2 win the game!
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:44 am
Well, well, well you want to talk linebackers, I like this Nico Dumont fella (MC)who is good enough to line up at safety at times. But nobody hits harder than Kimani Washington(Encinal). He is what you call an angry linebacker. O’Dad relax dude Martin is on the list too but definitley not on the top.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:50 am
o’dad u never answered me about playin the same offense for 3 years in ncs & still u guys have no answer.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:55 am
EBAL Fan, you are right on in some players are overlooked or under-valued because of prototype size. A perfect example is Joe Southwick. I just shake my head in amazement when his 6-1/6-2 height is brought up as a negative. He is going to a great school that will utilize his talents to the utmost. But, as well known as he is, I think he is greatly under rated nationally. IMO, he will have a great college career, probably NFL career, and the commentators will wonder where he came from!
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:05 am
o’dad i know facts r tough 2 dispute so i’m not surprised u havent responded.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:13 am
o’dad since pete carroll considers your son the best lb in norcal he must really want him. so we can expect your son to sign early with usc just like mcCalister did.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:17 am
I agree Southwick is an outstanding high school quarterback but alot of that is the SRV system he plays in.Boise is a good fit as long as Peterson stays there but with his success you’ve got to think some big time school is eventually going to make him an offer he can’t refuse.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:24 am
southwick is the real deal. saw him play in the colisuem last year he took over the 2nd half. he’s team was losin but he willed his team he made play after play.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:36 am
billjohnson, yes facts are hard to dispute. Yes, our team has faced the same power double wing offense the past 3 years. I am not the person to answer your question, cause I had the same question. And no, Chris truly does not know at this time where he is going.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:39 am
o’dad sounds to me like u got some questions for the great paul peronon.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:52 am
like wont he play ehs
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 am
Ok, are schedule has been weak the past couple of years. But, I dont get the logic behind you guys saying we should be scheduling Encinal, Miramonte, etc. They are D3 teams that are potential playoff opponents. I wouldn’t schedule specific playoff opponents in the regular season either. I do know this for a fact- BOD called Serra to schedule a game and was turned down. I think they are trying to get a better opponent for that week(Cal High). They were also turned down by VC or Mitty due to date not open. We were able to schedule St. Ignacius , who is a very good program with a lot of returning players next year. I believe they beat Marin Cath this year. Skyline is on the schedule and hopefully they will come back up with a new coach next year. I think the other game is Newark or Alameda.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:08 pm
If O’Dowd schedules St. Ignacius, Skyline and Newark, that will definitely be tougher than what Encinal has played this year — and probably next year.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I don’t want to get into a pissing match over who’s schedule was weaker this year, but, the preview article at the top of this page can be used again this week. Just put Encinal in place of BOD.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Very True…
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm
I thought you disappeared, or, on vacation Michael!
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 pm
haha, nope still here. Just didn’t feel the need to jump into all that prior conversation…
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:48 pm
they should play skyline every year i think
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Suggestion for poll of the day, why Billjohnson dislikes BOD:
1. Fertilizer business failed after losing BOD contract when field turf was installed (excess product being distributed on blog)
2. Tired of explaining the impression of coach P’s shoeprint on posterior is not a tattoo