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NCS Basketball Seeding Meeting Predictions
By mbower
Friday, February 20th, 2009 at 5:44 pm in Uncategorized.
I am in the process of putting together qualifying teams and predictions for each North Coast Section boys and girls basketball division. I am hopeful by the end of tonight I will have all the divisions completed. Just keep checking back. Remember, we will have a live blog from the NCS seeding meeting on Sunday at 9 a.m. Most of the records below are through Thursday. A few have been updated through Friday.
Boys
Division I
We have 14 teams that qualify and 12 spots in the field. So two teams are going to be left out. This Division was compiled by Kyle Bonagura.
Qualifying teams: Antioch (12-13 … has 11-7 record vs. Division I teams), Berkeley (22-3), Castro Valley (21-4), De La Salle (24-1), Deer Valley (14-10), Freedom (10-13 … has 8-7 record vs. D-I teams), Granada (15-10), James Logan (19-8), Monte Vista (22-3), Newark Memorial (22-4), Pittsburg (19-6), San Leandro 22-3, San Ramon Valley (17-8), Washington (14-13)
League champions: Berkeley, De La Salle, Newark Memorial (not official yet), Pittsburg, San Leandro.
At-Large Berth locks: Castro Valley, James Logan, Monte Vista, Granada, Deer Valley, San Ramon Valley
Bubble teams: Antioch, Freedom, Washington.
Predicted field: Berkeley, DLS, Newark Memorial, Pittsburg, San Leandro, Castro Valley, James Logan, Monte Vista, Granada, Deer Valley, Washington, San Ramon Valley.
Predicted seeding: 1. DLS; 2. San Leandro; 3. Monte Vista; 4. Newark Memorial; 5. Berkeley; 6. Castro Valley; 7. Pitt; 8. James Logan; 9. San Ramon Valley; 10. Granada; 11. Deer Valley; 12. Washington
The bottom portion of this seeding can probably go in any order. But the top eight seeds are pretty much a lock. Only possibilites of differences can be Monte Vista and San Leandro being flip flopped and possibly Castro Valley and Pittsburg. But Castro Valley beat Pitt earlier this season so the Trojans should get the No. 6 seed.
Division II
We have 14 teams that qualify and 12 spots in the field.
Qualifying teams: Alameda (15-9), Casa Grande (14-13), Clayton Valley (16-10), Concord (14-11), Hayward (17-7), Heritage (17-8), Las Lomas (16-9), Maria Carrillo (16-11), Northgate (21-5), Petaluma (11-17 … has 7-4 league record), Pinole Valley (16-9), Redwood (14-13), San Lorenzo (14-12), Ukiah (19-8).
League champions: Northgate
At-Large Berth locks: Hayward, Las Lomas, Heritage, Pinole Valley, Maria Carrillo, Clayton Valley, Ukiah
Bubble teams: Casa Grande, Alameda, Petaluma, Redwood, San Lorenzo, Concord
Predicted field: Northgate, Hayward, Las Lomas, Heritage, Pinole Valley, Maria Carrillo, Clayton Valley, Concord, Ukiah, Redwood, Alameda, San Lorenzo
Predicted seeding: 1. Northgate; 2. Hayward; 3. Las Lomas; 4. Heritage; 5. Pinole Valley; 6. Ukiah; 7. Maria Carrillo; 8. Clayton Valley; 9. Alameda; 10. Redwood; 11. San Lorenzo; 12. Concord.
Top seed here is tricky because Hayward beat Las Lomas but lost to Northgate. Las Lomas beat Northgate. I give it to Northgate since they have the best overall record and are league champions. I can really see anything happening in the bottom here. I can see Petaluma getting in and Casa Grande, but I went with San Lorenzo and Concord just because Petaluma’s record is so terrible and Casa Grande’s overall record isn’t much different from San Lorenzo’s or Concords and Grande lost twice to Petaluma. But I can see anything happening.
Division III
We have 16 teams that qualify and 12 spots in the field.
Qualifying teams: Acalanes (13-12), Alhambra (13-11), Analy (22-6), Bishop O’Dowd (19-7), Campolindo (15-10), Dublin (18-7), El Cerrito (16-10), Eureka (15-11), Hercules (13-12 going into Berkeley game tonight but 605 vs. D-III teams so qualifies even with loss), JFK-Richmond (16-12), Miramonte (21-4), Novato (13-15 … 9-7 league record), Piner (20-7), San Marin (15-14), Sir Francis Drake (20-6), Terra Linda (18-9).
League champions: Analy and Miramonte
At-Large Berth locks: Bishop O’Dowd, Dublin, Campolindo, El Cerrito, Piner, Sir Francis Drake
Bubble teams: Acalanes, Alhambra, Eureka, Hercules, Novato, San Marin, Terra Linda, Kennedy-Richmond
Predicted field:
Predicted seeding:
Division IV
it looks like we have only 13 teams qualified for 12 spots, although some of my records might not be fully accurate. A lot of out of area teams so I’m going with what I get from MaxPreps. — Jimmy Durkin
Qualifying teams: Arcata (21-6), Clear Lake (15-12), Cardinal Newman (27-0), Fort Bragg (15-13), Fortuna (13-12), Healdburg (12-13, but 8-7 vs. Div. IV), Kelseyville (11-16, but 4-4 in league), Marin Catholic (13-14, but 1-1 vs. Div. IV), McKinleyville (15-11), Salesian (22-4), St. Mary’s (24-3), St. Patrick-St. Vincent (18-8), Willits (12-14, but 5-3 in league).
Locks: Arcata, Clear Lake, Cardinal Newman, Fort Bragg, McKinleyville, Salesian, St. Mary’s, St. Patrick-St. Vincent.
Bubble teams: All the other listed teams should be considered bubble teams because their records are less than impressive. If the records I have are close to accurate (again, I’m making no assurances they are) and only these 13 teams are eligible, I think it comes down to Kelseyville and Willits for the last spot with the rest getting in. Kelseyville beat Willits it looks like in the league tournament yesterday to reach the finals today. If they win, then obviously that settles that. Otherwise, it comes down to Kelseyville having a worse record, but winning two of three over Willits and probably getting the berth. We’ll see. But let’s be honest, this bracket is all about St. Mary’s and Salesian, with possibly Cardinal Newman making some noise. I think whoever wins the BSAL title game get the No. 1 seed, the other gets the No. 2 and an unbeated Cardinal Newman gets the No. 3. But seeding committees tend to like unbeaten teams, so who knows what could happen with CN.
Predicted field: Arcata, Clear Lake, Cardinal Newman, Fort Bragg, Fortuna, Healdburg, Kelseyville, Marin Catholic, McKinleyville, Salesian, St. Mary’s, St. Patrick-St. Vincent.
Girls
Division I
Qualifying teams: Monte Vista (23-3), Deer Valley (20-6), Berkeley (21-6), American (20-8), Granada (17-9), Newark Memorial (19-8), Mission San Jose (16-12), James Logan (15-13), California (15-10), San Ramon Valley (14-12), College Park (16-10), Castro Valley (12-14 – winning record in league), Santa Rosa (15-12), Antioch (14-12).
League champions (3): Deer Valley, Berkeley, American/Newark winner.
At-Large Berth locks: Monte Vista, American/Newark loser, Granada, California, College Park.
Probably in: James Logan, San Ramon Valley, Santa Rosa.
Bubble teams: Mission San Jose, Antioch.
Longshot: Castro Valley.
Predicted at-large berths: Monte Vista, American/Newark loser, Granada, California, College Park, San Ramon Valley, Santa Rosa, James Logan and Mission San Jose.
Predicted seeding: 1. Monte Vista; 2. Deer Valley; 3. Berkeley; 4. American; 5. Newark; 6. Granada; 7. Cal; 8. Santa Rosa; 9. San Ramon Valley; 10. Logan; 11 College Park; 12. Mission San Jose.
Last spot: I think the top 11 seeds are fairly safe going into tomorrow’s NCS seeding meeting with the last spot coming down to Mission San Jose and Antioch. I ended up going with MSJ because it played a much tougher schedule and had a better overall record, but the Warriors’ lone key local win this year was against Castro Valley, a team that will definitely be left out. MSJ did win a tournament in Merced to strengthen its resume and nearly knocked off Newark on Thursday. Antioch has a win over Cal that could vault the Panthers into the playoffs, but that win over Cal was the first game of the year and the Grizzlies avenged that loss on Dec. 30. Tough decision to be made.
Seeding: Let’s be honest, there are only three teams that can win this tournament: Monte Vista, Deer Valley and Berkeley. Monte Vista is clearly the top seed, so that means the most important seeding is the 2 vs 3 because the winner of Deer Valley and Berkeley in the semis (a rematch of last year’s NCS final that Berkeley won) will get to go to NorCals. Both are league champs, so the No. 2 would get the home game. After looking closely at the body of work of both teams, Deer Valley should be the No. 2. The Wolverines have won 16 straight games and all six of their losses have came to teams ranked in the top-37 of the state by Maxpreps.com. They could have very easily scheduled themselves to an undefeated record. DV has a big time win over Oak Ridge (22-3) and beat Sheldon by twice as many points as Berkeley. Berkeley’s resume is very similar. It has won nine straight games and went undefeated in ACCAL play, which is a tougher league than the BVAL by most accounts because Pinole is in the league. Berkeley’s best wins are probably Grant and the two over Pinole. The one thing that Berkeley has that Deer Valley doesn’t is a glaring loss. Berkeley’s 28-point loss to Encinal just doesn’t make sense and with the two teams mirroring each other so closely, that could be the edge DV needs.
After that it’s pretty much a crap shoot. American and Newark play tonight in the MVAL championship game (a game I think American will win after watching the semis on Thursday), so that’s why I have American 4, Newark 5. Granada had a chance at the 4, but lost to Livermore last night, which will drop the Mats a little. Cal just lost Shelby Guittierez with a torn ACL, so that hurts Cal which could have a lot of trouble with Logan’s height if they meet in the first round. Santa Rosa and College Park are complete mystery teams. Santa Rosa hasn’t played an East Bay team and CP’s only Division 1 opponent was Monte Vista. SRV is without Jenna Giusti for the rest of the year sometimes has three freshmen and a sophomore on the court.
— Kyle Bonagura
Division II
Qualifying teams: Alameda (17-8), Carondelet (22-3), Clayton Valley (17-9), Hayward (9-14 .. 4-2 against D-II), Heritage (18-8), Livermore (13-13 … 5-2 against D-II), Maria Carrillo (14-12), Montgomery (19-8), Northgate (22-3), Petaluma (23-5), Pinole Valley (19-5), San Lorenzo (14-12), Sonoma Valley (16-12), Windsor (13-13 … 7-5 in league), Ukiah (13-14 … 9-5 league record)
League champions: Northgate, Carondelet, Petaluma
At-Large Berth locks: Alameda, Clayton Valley, Heritage, Montgomery, Pinole Valley, Sonoma Valley
Bubble teams: Hayward, Windsor, Livermore, San Lorenzo, Maria Carrillo, Ukiah
Predicted field: Northgate, Carondelet, Petaluma, Alameda, Clayton Valley, Heritage, Montgomery, Pinole Valley, Sonoma Valley, San Lorenzo, Windsor, Livermore
Predicted seeding:
Division IV
It appears there are 16 potentially eligible teams for 12 spots. Two teams, Kelseyville and Lower Lake, might be eligible if we had some results that are listed as missing, but honestly I don’t think it’ll matter because their are 14 definitely eligible teams that should be above them. And my honest assessment of this bracket is that nobody is going to beat St. Mary’s (sorry Moreau folks), so the seeding process might not matter much. — Jimmy Durkin
Qualifying teams: Arcata (13-13, Fortuna (24-3), Healdsburg (14-13), Justin-Siena (17-10), Kelseyville (11-13, two results missing, if they won both, they’d be .500 and eligible), Lower Lake (9-15, but 3-4 in league and two results missing that could make them above .500 in league), Marin Catholic (21-5), McKinleyville (19-5), Middletown (16-7), Moreau Catholic (20-5), Piedmont (17-9), St. Helena (23-1), St. Mary’s (23-4), St. Patrick-St. Vincent (15-12), Ursuline (19-8), Willits (21-15).
Locks: Fortuna, Justin-Siena, Marin Catholic, McKinleyville, Middletown, Moreau Catholic, Piedmont, St. Helena, St. Mary’s, St. Patrick-St. Vincent, Ursuline, Willits..
Bubble teams: My locks add up to 12, so I’m going to say that’s going to be the field and Arcata, Healdsburg, Kelseyville and Lower Lake (if even eligible) are all out. That seems simple enough. Let’s see if I’m right
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February 20th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Are we going to have another bracket challenge? Winner gets a Logan Linguisa sandwich
February 20th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Sounds good to me. We certainly will have our predictions up here. We will try to set something up next week.
February 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
looks like all blowouts the first round in d-1 except pitt and logan if cv loses tonite pitt might jump them but the head to head will probably not allow that to happen
February 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
TENNYSON LOST IN THE LAST MINUTE AND FOR THE SECOND YEAR STRAIGHT SLZ WILL BE IN THE FIELD!!!!
February 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Ouch. Thanks for the update, Dez.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Hayward vs CV score??
February 20th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
I dont remember the score. But Castro Valley won by double digets.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
If that’s true, that is a huge victory for Castro Valley. The Trojans needed some sort of boost going into the playoffs and a win over a pretty hot Hayward team is a good one.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
still a sixth seed still a 30 pt blowout in the first round lets just hope they don’t match them up with granada for the 4th time this season
February 20th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
CV won 50-36. I would love to see CV at Monte Vista in the second round. Castro Valley coach Nick Jones used to be an assistant at Monte Vista before going to the Trojans last year. If the Trojans can ever get going like they were earlier this year, that can be a good game.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
What was the Tennyson-San Lorenzo score? I’ve gotten two calls in the last 5 minutes at the Tribune asking for it. I keep telling them to call the Review. Is anyone there?
February 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Tony G is there. I don’t know what the final was.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
CV got a huge win tonight. We been struggling but the den and our team stayed strong to dominate hayward tonight. our d was legit, 21 points allowed after 3 quarters. we should still be very competitive in NCS, hopefully taking this momentum from this huge win.
We just havent been ourselves the last 4 weeks, but tonight we showed the team we were before. Den will be there in full strength, looks like we got deer valley according to this prediction should be easy.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Does anyone know the score of the Concord VS college Park game??? thanks
February 20th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Micheal I cant see SL being anything lower than a 2.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
the team you were before what you only have three good wins all year Cv has the lowest strenght of schedule out of all the div -1 teams that is a joke but you are right the first round will be a blowout for all the higher seeds get a win in the 2nd round before you start talking again and play a tougher schedule
February 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I don’t see San Leandro being lower than a 2 either, but Monte Vista has a case for No. 2 as well. It really doesn’t matter because San Leandro is a league champion and will host Monte Vista should the two meet in the semifinals anyway.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Final score was San Lorenzo 55, Tennyson 50. Tennyson had a 9-point lead in the 4th quarter.
February 20th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
My crown (as Hoop Fan) from last year’s Pick ‘Em challenge is up for grabs this year, but the Eternal Glory I was granted can never be taken away. Too bad glory doesn’t pay the bills. That was fun last year. I’m glad to see you guys are going to do it again this year.
February 21st, 2009 at 12:13 am
Concord won 57-54 in OT. The times has Alameda over Concord in the predictions. If its based on head to head Concord beat Alameda by 27 at Alameda in Jan.
February 21st, 2009 at 12:35 am
good call. Then Concord should get the call and not Alameda or maybe both!
February 21st, 2009 at 12:42 am
well we WERE a different team dverdin. when we were 17-1, we had beaten SL and ODowd on their courts, and then the last four weeks we lost to those teams at home, and lost to hayward. tonight we slaughter hayward, meaning we look more like the 17-1 team, not the last four weeks team.
point is, for about four weeks we were not ourselves and we dug ourselves in a hole. The team that got us to 17-1 was not playing up to full potential. Hopefully that 17-1 team shows up to NCS cuz we bout to f sh*t up.
February 21st, 2009 at 12:57 am
everyone plays bad teams throughout the year but not 19 out of 26 like i said earlier trojan den win in the 2nd round against a quality team before you start talking again you played seven quality games and won 3 lost 4 Good luck too all in the playoffs
February 21st, 2009 at 1:06 am
Be careful of only using the Cal Preps Rankings. Despite being a great source for results and records, their rankings seem flawed. I would love to see a public explanation for their rankings. Just a few examples.
(Note, I do not know the results of tonights PV vs
Alameda, but these rankings are prior)
Pinole Valley sits at #5 and Alameda at #9 despite, Alameda’s 8 point victory over PV a week ago, similar overall records)
Carrillo sits at #6 and Ukiah at #7 despite, Ukiah beating Carrillo twice, and finishing ahead of them in league. Ukiah also has a 19-8 overall record to Carrillo’s 16-11.
From what I know NCS qualifications are based on three categories; Overall Record, League Record and Divisional Record. You must be above .500 in one of these three categories. 9 teams in Division II have qualified in all three. Hayward, Northgate, Las Lomas, Heritage, Pinole or Alameda, (pending tonight), Carrillo, Ukiah, Redwood and Concord.
February 21st, 2009 at 1:33 am
who is using the cal prep rankings?
February 21st, 2009 at 1:39 am
To qualify for NCS you must be above .500 in one of the following three categories; Overall record, League Record, or Division Record. Something should be said for qualifying in all three categories.
For example Div I. DLS, SL, MV, Berk, New, CV, Pitt, Logan, SRV, DV and Granada.
Also in Div II, Hay, LL, NG, Her, PV or Ala (pending tonight), Carillo, Ukiah, CV, Redwood, and Concord
Shouldn’t all those teams then have a leg up?
Side note, what are calpreps rankings based on? I got all record info from that site, and it seems their rankings are off. How can Div II PV be ranked #5 and Alamdea #9 if they have similar records and Alameda won head to head. And Ukiah below Carrillo (#7 and #6 respectively) despite Ukiah having a better overall record, as well as 2 head to head victories and a 2nd place NBAL record.
Are these rankings factored into selection? It would be hard to ignore, given they are the only ones around, but they seem to be flawed. Head to Head and recent records should carry much more weight.
February 21st, 2009 at 3:15 am
cifncs.org defines winning record in one of the three categories as a team “having MORE wins than losses” a team with a .500 record in one of the categories such as Marin Catholic is therefore NOT eligible. (This is different than the rules for football)
February 21st, 2009 at 7:58 am
When are you going to finish your predictions i’m looking for girls D-1?
February 21st, 2009 at 8:54 am
DIII Predictions:
1. Miramonte
2. ODowd
3. Piner (beat EC, Analy, Novato)
4. Drake (beat EC, Analy, lost to Novato)
5. ElCerrito (lost to Piner, Drake, beat Pinole Valley)
6. Analy (lost to Piner, Drake and PV, beat Campo)
7. Terra Linda (split with Drake, beat Dublin)
8. Kennedy (beat Acalanes)
9. Acalanes (beat Piner, split with Campo and Dublin)
10. Campo (split with Acalanes, beat Dublin 2x)
11. Dublin (lost to EC, Drake, Campo 2x,split with Aca)
12. Eureka, San Marin or Hercules
February 21st, 2009 at 9:25 am
WHEN IS OAL CHAMPIONSHIP Jimmy???
February 21st, 2009 at 9:26 am
Hey Prepfan I was on your heels last year and left a few games off by mistake in the 2nd round so you better do your studying because Da Junkie is looking for the crown…..
February 21st, 2009 at 10:08 am
I’ve done my due diligence and am ready for the test. Should be fun.
February 21st, 2009 at 11:44 am
Should have them all up except D-V and D-VI, which we aren’t doing, by tonight.
February 21st, 2009 at 11:46 am
Any rankings done by cal preps or the newspapers or max preps or anybody can’t be factored into the equation at the seeding meeting. Also, injuries and players missing due to football early in the season cannot be factored into the equation.
February 21st, 2009 at 3:04 pm
You say that rankings can’t be factored in, but how can they not be? I would hope that the representatives of each league at the meeting tomorrow have been following local basketball closely enough to have at least read the rankings. They may not be able to cite the rankings in their discussions, but they would almost certainly be factored in subconsciously. They might remember seeing a team that was in the rankings, and that could carry at least some weight in the haggling that goes on.
February 21st, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Kyle, I heard that Monte Vista drew the higher card in the preseason draw and that they would be considered the league champions for NCS purposes, and Carondelet would then be an at large team and subject to travel to face a league champ such as Petaluma. Maybe you heard the official version, but that is what I heard?
A correction: Cal beat Antioch by 20 at the beginning of the season, and Antioch avenged it on their home court in the finals of the Jamboree tournament in December. You had it the other way around.
February 21st, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Well of course subconsciously anything can be factored in. And the people on the committee are supposed to be following the season.
February 21st, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Hey Michael,
When are preseason rankings for baseball coming out?
February 21st, 2009 at 4:06 pm
baseball and softball rankings probably won’t be out until at least NCS basketball is over. So probably two to three weeks.
February 21st, 2009 at 4:14 pm
The Ebal breaks a tie for the league title with whoever won the second head to head game. Since Carondelet beat MV in the second game, it is the designated league champ and MV is an at large team. That means MV would have to travel if they play the MVAL champion in the semis.
February 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Why aren’t the Ukiah girls making playoffs, from my understanding they had a better record than Maria Carrillo?
February 21st, 2009 at 6:04 pm
you are correct nbl fan. Ukiah does qualify with a 9-5 league record. I am going to change that right now. They are 13-14 overall and split against Carrillo though.
February 21st, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Dez,
The OAL championship game is March 5 at Laney College.
February 21st, 2009 at 9:04 pm
isn’t jfk-fremont eligible and in consideration for a trip to the dance
February 21st, 2009 at 9:09 pm
No, JFK-fremont is not eligible. Titans don’t have over .500 record overall, in league or against D-III opponents. The coach needs to learn to schedule some more D-III cupcakes.
February 21st, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Okay Micheal, knowing the NCS commitee and the fact that the commisioner did everything he could not to allow Brittany Boyd to play you are right they will probably get the #3 seed but honestly they should be #2. What is Deer Valley’s record vs. D-1 schools? You missed one of Berkeley’s key wins there opener against Kennedy NORCAL finals rep. last year and probably #4 team in NORCAL in D-1 and yeah the Encinal loss was a god awful loss, but big wins and ugly losses early really dont have that much effect does it? And really I’m fussing becasue I dont want to drive all the way to Antioch to see that game. And Deer Valley last REAL basketball game was at the West Coast Jamboree, at least Berkely did play Carondelet, Piedmont and Pinole twice, and Alameda twice (they probably will be in the NCS).
February 21st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Didn’t Bower say Hoose is buying the Logan Linguisa sandwich for the winner of the NCS Tourney Bracket Challenge
February 21st, 2009 at 9:20 pm
The following is from todays Argus.. “Domelle hopes there is a 29th game. He’ll fax his paperwork to the North Coast Section offices and cross his fingers that he earns one of the Division III at-large berths. He’ll find out Sunday.
“I’m going to apply,” he said. “It’s going to be close.”
If the committee saw any of Friday night’s game, they would probably give the Titans an at-large spot”.
February 21st, 2009 at 9:22 pm
E_culb,
Gil Lemmon has nothing to do with the seeding selections besides overseeing them. He doesn’t have any say in who gets what seed so there is no bias going on if that’s what you are hinting at.
As far as Deer Valley getting the No. 2 seed, I think that can go either way. But I have to go with Kyle and think the committee will give it to Deer Valley simply because the Wolverines have no bad losses and Berkeley has the one to Encinal. Other than that, both teams are very similar in record and both have won league titles. The Encinal loss probably will be the deciding factor.
I still would take Berkeley if the two played. I just think the Encinal loss is going to put them behind Deer Valley in the seedings. Deer Valley has no losses to NCS schools.
February 21st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
High school junkie,
I am sure the coach didn’t have it figured out by then that his team didn’t qualify. Unless my records are wrong, then Kennedy-Fremont does not qualify.
Kennedy is 13-15 overall and 6-6 in MVAL play. The Titans’ record against D-III schools is 4-6 and 5-6 at best if Redding Christian is considered Division III by NCS standards.
February 21st, 2009 at 9:35 pm
We can blame it on Steve the last sentence was him… Dang my wife is calling me to come to bed lets see sports or nookie…..HMMMMMM I told her if I am not there in 20 min to start without me
February 21st, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Blaming it on Steve is always the best option … haha.
February 21st, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Do they have to be OVER .500 in league or just .500
February 21st, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Have to have “more wins than losses,” according to the NCS website.
February 21st, 2009 at 9:41 pm
it’s a shame, too, because Kennedy deserves to be in that field
February 21st, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Last question on Kennedy… did they win 2 playoff games and loose 1 if so would that put them over .500
February 21st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Kennedy went 1-1 in the mval playoffs.
February 21st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Ok it’s Steves fault
February 21st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
hahaha
February 21st, 2009 at 9:53 pm
No Girls D-3 predictions
February 21st, 2009 at 9:54 pm
At least the Newark boys soccer team won in PK’s against Amador Valley tonight and will be in the semifinals against DLS.
February 21st, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Thats great go Cougars.. How about finals from MVAL Boys and Girls hoops
February 21st, 2009 at 10:02 pm
That Win avenged Newark’s only loss of the year, Like Matt and I said earlier Don’t want to play a team that feels it was disrespected by the seeding committee
February 21st, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Newark Memorial won Boys and Girls basketball as well as in a great boys soccer game.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Ha, give me a break on the D-III girls. I can only get to so much. Seeding meeting is tomorrow and I will get it up late late tonight when I gather the strength to do one more division.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:07 pm
and Kyle predicted an American victory tonite… Great nite for Cougar Country sports
February 21st, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Oh Mike just pencil in BOD as champs and say no more (even if I am still pissed at the coaches for the Guerra blunder)
February 21st, 2009 at 10:14 pm
ha, well that isn’t the coaches fault. Trust me, the coaches and AD did all they could in that situation. It is the interpretation of the rule by the NCS commissioner that did Guerra in this year.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Oh I could rant for a while on that one but I won’t. Hmmm wife fell asleep maybe I will BBQ me some linguisa and put it in sourdough garlic bread with Parmesean cheese
February 21st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
haha, don’t ruin your prize for winning the pick ‘em title!
February 21st, 2009 at 10:24 pm
At my age I spoil myself, I got kids older than all you guys at ANG, and been going to MVAL sporting events since 1963 when I was 6 yrs old
February 21st, 2009 at 10:25 pm
oh man, you must remember when Mission was good at football.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:26 pm
and Swift was undeafeted
February 21st, 2009 at 10:27 pm
ha, I think he won the MVAL wrestling title at some weight at some time.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:28 pm
hoose knows more about that than I do.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:29 pm
and Newark played in the TOC and was beat by Ansley Truit in the semi’s
February 21st, 2009 at 10:30 pm
oh man, now you are pulling out some knowledge.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:31 pm
You have Ukiah boys way too low in D2.
-Beat Maria twice with Justin Harold (who is now gone, which makes Maria average at best).
-Beat Piner once.
-Second in the North Bay League
-Killed San Lorenzo
-Was up on Pinole Valley until late in the game.
I say 6, 7 at the lowest.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
So who decides how the teams are seeded if the commish doesnt?
February 21st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Thanks for that Ukiahsportsfan. I wasn’t exactly sure how good Ukiah is since I haven’t seen them. These predictions are up there just for people to get an idea of how things will play out … we do it to the best of our knowledge in such a short time.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
I have newspaper articles from “The News Register” which was the name of the paper before it became “The Argus” well I better call it a night and just want all of you guys at ANG to know you do a great job especially in today’s difficult newspaper times
February 21st, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Ukiah,
I didn’t even seed D-II. I just put who I predicted would get in the field. That isn’t the seeding order … I never finished that part of D-II boys.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Eculb,
There is a committee for each division that decides how the teams are seeded and who is selected into the field.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:39 pm
It really is a shame Kennedy-Fremont won’t even get considered for NCS. They play hard and that game on Friday against Newark was a heartbreaker for them.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:43 pm
It really is a shame Kennedy-Fremont won’t even get considered for NCS. They play hard and that game on Friday against Newark was a heartbreaker for them.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Thanks, sports junkie. We appreciate that.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Thanks Mike. My mistake.
Maria lost their stud center to suspension, so their record is going to primarily reflect when he was on the team. Without him, they aren’t going to get past the first round.
I think that Casa gets blasted in the first round if they make it. I think that Petaluma is dangerous to a higher seed if they make it. Analy can shoot the hell out of the ball, but has played a horribly easy league schedule. Eureka is in the midst of a nightmare with personnel and will probably get drilled in the first round.
I think Cardinal Newman could beat St. Mary’s, but probably not Salesian. Underrated and very deep team. Arcata could nail someone. Everyone else (Fort Bragg, Clear Lake, Kelseyville, McKinleyville) won’t go far.
February 21st, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Thanks for all the great information, Ukiah. We obviously don’t get to see any of those squads until NCS starts so we aren’t very familiar with them except for the records. That’s some good insider information! Make sure to be up by 9 a.m. and watch the seeding meeting unfold live right here on the blog!
February 21st, 2009 at 10:52 pm
A commitee made up of who?
February 21st, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Committee made up of people from different regions of the North Coast Section. These people are selected before the season starts so they can follow the teams.
February 21st, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Thanks!
February 22nd, 2009 at 3:32 am
Why isn’t there Division 5 seedings up there??
February 22nd, 2009 at 7:21 am
Hoop Guy,
There are just so many teams with NCS having six divisions and us having so much other work to do, that we didn’t have time to break down all five divisions. Sorry. Luckily, chances are Div. V will be one of the first done today, so the wait won’t be as long. We’ll certainly keep you posted and I’ll talk about D V during the live blog beginning around 8:45.
February 22nd, 2009 at 8:51 am
Hi, how do you think Miramonte will do in D3 playoffs this year? 12-0 in league and 22 wins. They have the smoooth Holy Cross bound center they ride on and have beaten Salesian and played Stm Marys close. When they play well they look awesome but they also look shaky some games
February 22nd, 2009 at 9:29 am
In div. 4 girls, if St. Mary’s is seeded #1, who in your opinion, will be seeded 2nd & 3rd?
February 24th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
well seems to me for the Division Three prediction you were partially wrong, yes Analy won the league championship for the SCL but Piner beat an undefeated team Cardinal Newman (27-0) to make them (27-1) for the league championships, I think the team that has the best chance of going to state and winning
Division III Championships is Piner.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Piner lost to acalanes, a team that miramonte beat twice. None of these teams can beat sac high or Sacred heart, but bishop o’dowd or miramonte should win ncs. Piner has Lucas Devenny, the best player in D3 NCS, but he could get neutralised by the two bigs from miramonte, and the rest of thier team isn’t as strong or as deep as needed for a championship.
February 22nd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Willits is 21-7 thank you very much:)GO WILLITS!!!