NCS Baseball Brackets
By Ben Enos
Sunday, May 17th, 2009 at 1:19 pm in Baseball.
As with softball, I’ll update the post as I get brackets. All brackets are updated.
DIVISION I
Tues., May 19
No. 12 Castro Valley (16-8) at No. 5 California (14-9), 5 p.m.
No. 10 Deer Valley (18-6) at No. 7 Irvington (19-6), 5 p.m.
No. 11 San Ramon Valley (13-11) at No. 6 Newark Memorial (21-5), 5 p.m.
Wed., May 20
No. 9 Foothill (13-11) at No. 8 Amador Valley (15-9), 5 p.m.
Quarterfinals (May 22-23)
Amador Valley/Foothill winner at No. 1 De La Salle (16-8), May 23, 5 p.m.
California/Castro Valley winner at No. 4 Bishop O’Dowd (20-4), May 22, 5 p.m.
Irvington/Deer Valley winner at No. 2 Monte Vista (17-7), May 22, 5 p.m.
Newark Memorial/San Ramon Valley winner at No. 3 Freedom (20-4), 5 p.m.
DIVISION II
Tues., May 19
No. 9 Concord (14-9) at No. 8 Rancho Cotate-Rohnert Park (15-9), 5 p.m.
No. 12 Redwood-Larkspur (14-11) at No. 5 Montgomery-Santa Rosa (20-6), 5 p.m.
Wed., May 20
No. 7 Arroyo (17-7) vs. No. 10 Eureka (15-9) at Arcata Ball Park, 5 p.m.
No. 11 Northgate (16-8) at No. 6 Heritage (12-12), 5 p.m.
Quarterfinals (May 22-23)
Rancho Cotate/Concord winner vs. No. 1 Alameda (20-4) at Lincoln Park, May 22, 5 p.m.
Montgomery/Redwood winner at No. 4 Cardinal Newman-Santa Rosa (21-5), May 22, 5 p.m.
Arroyo/Eureka winner vs. No. 2 Clayton Valley (21-3), date/site/time TBA
Heritage/Northgate winner at No. 3 Casa Grande-Petaluma (18-6), 5 p.m.
DIVISION III
Tues., May 19
No. 8 El Cerrito (15-9) at No. 9 Albany (16-8), 5 p.m.
No. 12 Del Norte (15-11) at No. 5 Analy (21-4), 5 p.m.
Wednesday, May 20
No. 10 Piner-Santa Rosa (11-13) at No. 7 Novato (15-10), 5 p.m.
No. 11 Kennedy-Fremont (9-14) at No. 6 Alhambra (16-8), 5 p.m.
Quarterfinals (May 22-23)
El Cerrito/Albany winner at No. 1 Miramonte (20-3-1), May 22, 5 p.m.
Analy/Del Norte winner at No. 4 Dublin (14-10), May 22, 5 p.m.
Novato/Piner winner at No. 2 Campolindo (20-4), May 23, 5 p.m.
Alhambra/Kennedy winner vs. No. 3 Sir Francis Drake-San Anselmo (20-5) at Albert Field, May 23, 5 p.m.
DIVISION IV
Tuesday, May 19
No. 7 Arcata (14-9) at No. 10 Fort Bragg (17-6-1), 5 p.m.
Wednesday, May 20
No. 9 Kelseyville (16-8) at No. 8 El Molino-Forestville (12-11), 5 p.m.
No. 5 Berean Christian (15-9) at No. 12 Cloverdale (13-9), 5 p.m.
No. 11 Lick-Wilmerding-San Francisco vs. No. 6 St. Joseph Notre Dame (16-7) at Skyline College, 5 p.m.
Quarterfinals (May 22-23)
El Molino/Kelseyville winner vs. No. 1 Marin Catholic-Kentfield (19-5), date/time TBA
Berean Christian/Cloverdale winner at No. 4 Salesian (17-6), May 23, 5 p.m.
Arcata/Fort Bragg winner at No. 2 Justin-Siena-Napa (17-9), May 22, 5 p.m.
Lick-Wilmerding/St. Joseph Notre Dame winner vs. No. 3 St. Mary’s (18-6), date/time TBA
DIVISION V
Tuesday, May 19
No. 10 International-San Francisco (12-10) vs. No. 7 Branson-Ross (7-17) at College of Marin, 5 p.m.
No. 11 Hoopa Valley (9-14) vs. No. 6 Marin Academy (12-8) at Albert Field, 5 p.m.
Wednesday, May 20
No. 9 University-San Francisco (10-11) vs. No. 8 Bay School-San Francisco (14-3-1) at USF, 5 p.m.
No. 12 Calistoga (9-8) vs. No. 5 College Prep (16-7) at North Oakland Sports Complex, 5 p.m.
Quarterfinals (May 22-23)
Bay School/University winner at No. 1 Head-Royce (21-2), May 22, 5 p.m.
College Prep/Calistoga winner vs. No. 4 Valley Christian (13-10), date/time TBA
Branson/International winner vs. No. 2 Redwood Christian (21-3) at San Leandro Ball Park, May 22, 4 p.m.
Marin Academy/Hoopa Valley winner vs. No. 3 St. Vincent-Petaluma (18-6), date/time TBA
DIVISION VI
Tuesday, May 19
No. 7 Waldorf-San Francisco (9-13) at. No. 2 Ferndale (16-8), 5 p.m.
No. 6 Potter Valley (15-5) at No. 3 Tomales (16-4-1), 5 p.m.
Wednesday, May 20
No. 8 California School for the Deaf (15-8) at No. 1 St. Bernard Catholic (18-1), 5 p.m.
No. 4 Fremont Christian (15-4) at. No. 5 Rincon Valley Christian (13-6-1), 5 p.m.
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- East Bay Prep Corner
May 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Alameda should get the #1 seed, due to the road win aaaaaaaat Clayton Valley…John
May 17th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Deer Valley a ten seed with an 18-6 overall record behind Foothill (You have got to be kidding) Amador Valley ( Bill Walton–UUUNNBEILEEAVVVABLE!!!!) Californi (when they couldn’t win a BVAL GAME?)
This whole format is so biased and messed up. NCS offices in San Ramon etc etc etc.
San Ramon loses 6 out of their seven final games, score no runs and gets in over college park?
If this is the way its going to be from here on out, what is the point in having a seeding meeting?
Not only is this completely unfair to many teams, it is WRONG.
Deer Valley at number ten is absolutely WRONG.
The NCS committee members need to wake up. Coaches rankings shouldn’t mean anything to you as coaches from each league back their own!!!!
The system needs and overhall right away. It is who you know. I know of many shady things that went on this year in regards to back door deals with NCS and athletic programs. This system is completely flawed and needs to be righted. Way to make everyone not in the EBAL root against their programs!!!!!
I AM OUT:)))))
May 17th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Division 1-2 is up at ncs site. Heritage with 12-12 record gets 6th seed and home playoff. Arroyo 17-7 gets 7th seed and has to travel to Arcata ball park. Something seems pretty fishy. A 12-12 record gets you a home playoff?
May 17th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
heritage beat arroyo earlier in the season head-to-head
May 17th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Explain to me how O’Dowd gets a #4 seed in the weakest division of all. They went 1-1 against Castro Valley and 1-1 against Arroyo and did not beat any other winning record NCS team. They did not play any EBAL, BVAL teams. Pretty pathetic that you can beat up on Tennyson, Moreau and Mt Eden, play in a panzy Easter tournament and lose 15-0 and still be the #4 seed in D1.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Guest, it doesn’t matter who they beat earlier in the season. A 12-12 record getting a home game is ridiculous. Even if they played every game against a number one ranked team and went 12-12 they don’t deserve a home playoff game. The NCS is definitely BIASED to say the least.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
I agree Groundskeeper. There is some weird stuff to these rankings. How is Newark at 21-5 who beat strong Irvington and league champ if they want to reward that behind 3rd place California High in the seedings?
May 17th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I guess Arroyo is punished for not petitioning up as they would have been able to stay local and pushed out SRV for a spot I would think. Well then again, 6th place in a league might win out.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
A league winner gets a home game vs an at large team I don’t know if this is the case here
May 17th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Order should have been in my opinion:
DLS
Monte Vista
Freedom
Newark
Deer Valley
Irvington
O’Dowd
Cal High
Amador Valley
Foothill
Castro Valley
College Park
May 17th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
No doubt that DV and College Park got hosed.If anyone in the “brilliant comittee” ever watched San Ramon, Foothill or even Cal for that matter they would see two very over rated teams and Cal who should be 10-12
May 17th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
IT’s about time M V got the right seed.
May 17th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
i guess newark is behind cal because they lost to them twice this year…they should be higher though
May 17th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Just curious HSbbguru, have you watched SRV, Foothill or Cal this year? It seems as though you give absolutely no credit for the strength of EBAL pitching….11 pitchers moving on to play Division 1 or 2 baseball and probably another 1 or 2 beyond that. It is no wonder the run production of EBAL is down this year.
May 17th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I have to agree that DV got screwed. DV is much better than a 10 seed, and they surely deserve a home game. College Park (and all we can do is speculate) probably deserved a shot somewhere in the field….BUT, I believe that a) if they were in the EBAL they wouldnt be a 14-10 team, and b) they lost head to head to San Ramon. Hard to argue with the committee picking SRV over CP. SRV probably is the “best of the rest” as there was no clear cut 12 teams in anyones opinion (disregarding “homers” and coaches/parents who post here). Outside of College Park I dont think there is any team even in the discussion for deserving a spot over the 12 teams selected.
I do think the committee butchered the seeding though.
Anyone for predictions on the brackets? Ill likely revise mine…but I’m going Freedom over DLS in the final!
May 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Cal at #5 may be justified based on the NCS criteria. Head to head play carries a lot of weight and Cal Hi beat Newark twice and Amador twice. Newark beat Irvington twice. Only logical reasoning I could come with looking at MaxPreps.
May 17th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Just saw the D2 rankings…I have NO problem with a 7 seed for Arroyo. Though playing in a league that has doesn’t have the depth and consistancy as other leagues in the East Bay, they have quality wins over Albany (9-6 win during Alhambra tourney), West (7-3 win)…note that West was 18-10 this year in the Tracy, CA), and a 5-2 win over Logan. And lets not forget quality league wins over O’Dowd and Castro Valley.
BUT, I have a HUGE problem when the #7 seed is required to drive over 280 miles to their next game. A ROAD GAME!!!! Am I missing something here?
My understanding is that a league champion gets an automatic bid. No problem. Clearly understood. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE AUTOMATIC BID IS A HOME GAME.
The SEEDING determines who gets the home game. And if the seedings are not the reason for determining who gets the home field advantage, then why have them at all????!!!!!!!!!
A TRAVESITY!!! AN ABSOLUTE TRAVESITY!!!
May 17th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
How is any team expected to drive for over 5 hours to play? And Heritage did not win the BVAL with a 12-12 record but they got a 6th seed and a home game. They had a losing record of 7-8 in the BVAL.
May 17th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Erndog has a VERY good point. Regardless of seeding, no team should be required to travel that far for any game. Period. They should flip the 7 and 8 seeds just because Rancho Cotate is somewhat closer, but it is still way too far for them. If they aren’t going to keep the Redwood Empire and East Bay separate like they used to, then they need to redraw the Section lines.
And to No Faith, I’m with you, I just had O’Dowd 2 spots higher. Of course, I played for CP last year so you can understand my bias.
I guess I’ll root for Newark over Bishop O’Dowd. But, as long as the EBAL gets beat up on, I’ll be happy. You remember how CP shut down two “high powered” EBAL offenses last year? Maybe it isn’t so much the pitching in that league, but lousy hitting. But final point, SRV loses something like 6 out of their last 7 while CP wins 7 out of 8 to close the season. Ask me, I’d go with the team that is hot, and the defending champs.
May 17th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
what the point of being 7 seed and having to travel to play the 10 seed. The 7 should have a home game as Irvington does. Maybe Arroyo didn’t get there paperwork in on time. Or maybe they didn’t apply for a home game.
May 17th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
A league champion always gets the home game, regardless of the seeding. Unless 2 league champs are playing, then seedings come into play.
May 17th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Ryan, if what you say is correct, that a league champion is always ENTITLED to a home game, then why have seedings at all??? Lets just put the names in a jar and draw them out two at a time and have a coin-flip for home team.
Can anyone find out what the mitigating reason/factor is that led to this decision??
May 17th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Eureka won their league and even though they are the lower seed, they get home field since Arroyo is an at large entry.
May 17th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Softball Fan, are you saying that ‘regardless of seeding’ that Eureka had a guarantee of a home game??
And I guess that someone will say no, given the possibility of playing yet a different league champion…right???
This decision is so bad on so many different levels!!
May 17th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Arroyo…get the job done on the field and show them East Bay baseball!! It’s a diamond like anywhere else….hope to see you play CV…
May 17th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Guest post #19:
Think the SRV over College Park has anything to do with the NCS offices in SAN RAMON VALLEY. GMAFB
May 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
San Ramon had no business in this field. NCS as usual has no CLUE.
May 17th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Erndog,
Yes, Eureka was going to get a home game unless the played another league champ that was seeded higher.
NCS does it in basketball as well. Even more of an advantage in basketball.
I agree with a post above. I would love to see the sectional boundaries change. Arroyo has to travel too far but they don’t have to travel the farthest. Alahmbra’s softball team has to go 340 miles. At least it is on a Saturday.
Hopefully Arroyo gets the job done and has a fun ride home!
May 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
No matter what sport the NCS finds ways to cheat DV in our seeding positions.
May 17th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
San Ramon and Foothill have no business in the field. It is a travesty but what’s done is done. Unfortunately for everyone involved those EBAL teams can schedule light preseason games to get some wins knowing that they can go 5-9 in league and get in. Who cares about how many division 1 pitchers you have in your league. The only EBAL team that will be left standing is DLS and this is their first year in the EBAL after many years in the BVAL where they actually lost league games when DLS had stronger teams! Wake up!
May 17th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
San Ramon Valley beat College Park head to head…end of discussion. I seriously doubt where the NCs offices are located had anything to do with the final decision.
May 17th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Foothill has wins against Newark and Freedom. Don’t see how that is a light preseason schedule.
May 17th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
San Ramon played College Park first game of the season. Freedom played Foothill in their first game of the season. What is BS is that if this is the criteria NCS is using anything can happen the first four games of the season. A lot of schools have to deal without having their best players due to basketball etc. How can you justify “San Ramon” making NCS by losing 7 out of their last 9 games? Because they beat College Park in their first game of the season? This selection process is wrong and completely biased towards the EBAL. The proof is in black and white. The EBAL gets all the local print and now with DLS in their league they get even more! Six teams in NCS and three of them having woeful league records is an injustice to everyone playing HS sports in the North Coast Section.
May 18th, 2009 at 12:58 am
DSL at 16-8
MV at 17-7 I’ll take MV at 17-7 they played serra,liberty,st.francis,clayton valley,st.marys in pre season(4 wins,1 loss) In EBAL there only losses were to DSL(3-0),Foothill(2-1),CAL(2-1)&DSL(2-1)
May 18th, 2009 at 8:26 am
HSbbguru….
You are so riled up about the EBAL getting schools in that may or may not be deserving, yet you haven’t said who you think should have been in over them? Somebody had to get in to fill out the 12 team bracket. Who SHOULD it have been??
Im looking around at the rest of the “options” and there is NOBODY!
May 18th, 2009 at 8:30 am
NCS is all about the AD policting
Berean Christian in the NCS Div IV has NO quality wins! Period!!! It beat College Park by a flute when CP had a flood of injuries and later in the season, lost to the same team.If it wasn’t for the fact it beat YV and Mt. Diablo each twice, Berean would of had a losing season. This is a joke to be in the NCS
May 18th, 2009 at 9:56 am
hsbbguru you should be president of ncs with all your well thought out brilliant responses. get a life.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:02 am
San Ramon (13-11) beat College Park (14-10). With similar records, it’s a no brainer that SRV gets in over CP.
Comparing the ends of the season for both teams just doesn’t make sense. CP got hot enough to get two wins over Mt. Diablo (0-23), a win over Ygnacio Valley (4-20), D4 Berean Christian (CP also lost to BC), D4 St. Joes, D2 Northgate and D2 Concord (who they also lost to).
SRV finished the year against Monte Vista, DLS, Cal and Foothill. Aside from Northgate, none of the teams College Park finished with are on the same level as SRV.
SRV would have won a lot more games than 14 if it had CPs schedule.
The right team got in.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Ben:
Can you update the NCS Baseball scores on Twitter for us? Thanks,
May 18th, 2009 at 10:19 am
These seeds are never fair. O’Dowd beat both College Park and Cardinal Newman on the road, and spanked Arroyo 11-1. SRV has NO hitting…Newark will smoke them. DV has to go through MV at some point anyway. They match up well.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:26 am
[quote]NCS is all about the AD policting
Berean Christian in the NCS Div IV has NO quality wins! Period!!! It beat College Park by a flute when CP had a flood of injuries and later in the season, lost to the same team.If it wasn’t for the fact it beat YV and Mt. Diablo each twice, Berean would of had a losing season. This is a joke to be in the NCS[/quote]
What? BC is a D4 team playing in a league with D1, D2 and D3 schools and finshed 5-7, not great but not bad for a first year. They are the only D4 team with a D1 school in their league (CP) and the most D2 schools, four (CV, C, NG & MD) in their league. All other D4 schools are in leagues with 1-2 D2 schools, mostly D3-D4 schools or all D4 schools. Look at the D2 schools they played in league also, CV, C and NG all of which made D2 playoffs. Every league has weak teams, don’t blame BC for beating them. You have to remember, BC has 441 students, D4 is 411-999. In league, the school closest to them in size is YV which has 1445 students according to the NCS website, that’s 1004 more students. Then there’s CP which has 2165 students, they’re a small school in a big school league. Now BC’s wins. They beat a D1 team from Reno, a D1 team in league (CP) and the loss to CP was only 5-2. They are 4-1 against D4 teams with wins over Salesian (BSAL) league champs and Cloverdale (NCL-1) league champs both of which made D4 playoffs. They beat Victory Christian (D5) from Sacramento who won their league in the SJS and finished 22-2, and beat St. Thomas More (D5) from San Jose who also won their league in the CCS. They are 10-2 in none league games, 9-2 against schools their size or smaller. So in non-league games they have beaten four league champions and don’t have a single loss to a team with a losing record. No quality wins? You’re entitled to your opinion but I believe it’s very uniformed.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Jimbo – on the other hand, Berean is a D4 school playing in a D1-D2 league. The win over Salesian was quality. Sure, not as good as a win over Clayton Valley, but CV has like 5 times the enrollment of BC. If BC were in D1 or D2 they wouldn’t belong in the playoffs, but against schools their own size they’ve beat almost all of them.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Exactly! That’s why they have divisions.
May 18th, 2009 at 11:57 am
I am happy that DLS received the #1 seed. Shows that their preseason schedule and Easter tourny was taken in consideration. However, I think that Deer Valley got screwed at number 10. Cal did not deserve the number 5, they had too many bad loses. CP didn’t have any big wins, but taking a 7th place team in San Ramon??? Although, I wouldn’t want to play SR in the first round with Griggs and Palsha.
In DII-CV should have received the #1 seed, if you look at all the quality wins. Don’t know how Heritage is 6, they were no better than a 11 or 12 seed. Arroyo having to travel to Eureka is tough.
In DIII-Analy should have been the 4 if not higher. Dublin is too high.
Should be intesting. Let’s start the predictions.
May 18th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Only way to explain Cal at No. 5 is its two wins against Newark. Trying to make sense of it any other way would be tough to do…
May 18th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
I agree with Pick and Bay Area Watcher’s responses to Jimbo… BC’s wins against CP and Salesian were quality, and they’ve beaten four league champs (Salesian and Cloverdale in D4 NCS and VC and More in D5 SJ and CCS) and D5 NCS qualifiers (College Prep and University). They could have been more competitive in DVAL, but you need to compare enrollment, too; so for their size, they’ve beaten some quality teams. Hopefully, they can prove the skeptics wrong this week.
May 18th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Cal at #5 may be justified based on the NCS criteria. Head to head play carries a lot of weight and Cal Hi beat Newark twice and Amador twice. Newark beat Irvington twice. Only logical reasoning I could come with looking at MaxPreps.
May 18th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
There was almost zero chance Clayton Valley would get the No. 1 in Division II. Their SOS may have been higher and they may have ahd more quality victories, but the head-to-head loss to Alameda was going to be a no-brainer for the committee. Then factor in that Alameda beat Concord, a team that has a win (and a loss) to Clayton Valley, and there’s no way the committee would put Clayton Valley ahead. If anything, it proves the committee doesn’t let polls or outside opinion sway them. The thing about polls is that we can factor in the fact that neither team threw their ace in the Alameda-CV game and so we can say that you can’t put full weight into that. But a committee will always judge those head-to-head games in black and white.
May 18th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
I agree with Kyle’s statement as to how Cal got such a high seed. That and the win over Monte vista had to help them a lot. They’re a good team when they play well, however its really hard to ride a four game losing streak into NCS and to expect results…
May 18th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
And Heritage wins! The Baseball team goes 12-12 and 7-8 in league and gets the #6 seed and a home game. The Softball team goes 8-16 and gets the #10 seed and a home game. It seems like any way I look at it they have some serious pull on the Commitee.
May 18th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I also think higher seeded teams need to host a game, through out the league champ stuff. Only 2 of 5 D4 league champs got a 1-4 seed, the others got #10, #11 and #12 yet they all get to host a game. Why should the higher seeded teams have to travel, the lower seeded team should travel.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
EVERYTHING in baseball is arbitrary, beginning with 3 strikes and 4 balls…thus seeds and home field, not surprisingly are arbitrary as well. Play Ball
May 18th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
FRANKIE I say RELAX!! Wasn’t that a song from the 80′s? You really shouldn’t get all butt hurt over an opinion! It is what it is. I will not change my opinion on the EBAL. Congratulations to Foothill and San Ramon for getting into the playoffs. Hopefully they do well. The new system is completely flawed and needs to be corrected before next season. Teams should have to finish at least 500 in league to be considered. Who knows with the system the way it is next year all 8 EBAL teams could get in because DLS is in their league. To have teams make the playoffs with records below 500 in league is a travesty to NCS. College Park had a winning record in league and overall but are left out because the EBAL has 100 or so Division 1 players! Heritage finishes 4th in their league and are below 500 in league and at 500 overall yet gets a home game and is the 6th seed? Hmmmm don’t get that either. So prepbbfan I am not all about the BVAL. Deer Valley should be in the top 8 and in front of three of those EBAL teams. That is a fact. Why would they get a number 10 seed? If anyone has a good explanation I would love to hear it.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
HSbbguru- Creating a rule that states that teams should have to finish at least .500 in league to be considered to make NCS does not make sense at all. It simply rewards the teams in weaker leagues. EBAL is the strongest league around. Get over it. I’m not a SRV guy and I understand their inclusion in NCS has caused some controversy, but as a experienced coach (now retired) in the East Bay (not the EBAL), I would be much happier facing College Park than SRV in the first round of NCS.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
100 D I players? you’ve got to be kidding
May 18th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
I believe that Cal got a higher seed than they deserved. They did have 2 wins against NM, 2 wins against Amador and Foothill, a win against Monte Vista and a win against Castro Valley. 3rd Place in EBAL probably had something to do with the seeding. If they play in NCS like they played earlier in the season, look for them to get past Castro Valley and O’Dowd..
May 18th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
bunch of my team this and my team that going on in here, I am sure of 1 thing ya gotta win in the NCS playoffs to be champ and seeds are seeds JUST WIN BABY the best teams will make it to the final and then it is decided on the field. I am sure someone will say the umpiring is fixed for this team or that team once the games begin.. I can see it now the NCS offices are in San Ramon and the umpire must have had to drive through San Ramon to get to the game so he will make sure he gets home safe by calling the game for any team in his path home…..
May 18th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
The Aces will be out in full force tomorrow. Play ball!
May 19th, 2009 at 8:27 am
HSbbguru,
Whats funny to me is I never said anything about any league in particular. I referenced “homers” and coaches/parents. Pretty quick to defend yourself as “not all about the BVAL”. And if you ARE BVAL, there isnt another team who qualifies under your “must be .500 in league” logic. Heritage is obviously D2, Antioch couldn’t hit their way out of a paper bag (and also under .500 in league and overall vs. D1), Pittsburg is Pittsburg (again, also under .500 in league). I agree with the 12 teams who made it, but can we at least agree that there isnt another BVAL team and rule them out?
May 19th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Hsbbguru, You have mentioned the Ebal numerous times. Lets hear some opinions how College Park would end up in the Ebal. Seems to me that San Ramon in College Parks league would be above .500
May 19th, 2009 at 9:38 am
I have mentioned the EBAL because San Ramon and Foothill do not deserve to be in the playoffs. I am also concerned that because of the EBAL bias that continues year in and out! Sure Foothill beat Freedom first game of the season, but freedom beats cal twice and the 5th place team in the BVAL shuts cal out 6-0 what I’m trying to say is the head to head logic that some of you are trying to use is asinine. Its all about who knows who etc. College Park got hosed and that is a fact. Prepbbfan you clearly stated that college park should get in during an earlier post yet now you seem to have succumbed to the popular EBAL opinion.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Hsbbguru – Read your last two posts and you talk out of both sides of your both
quotes I agree with the 12 teams who made it,
quotes I have mentioned the EBAL because San Ramon and Foothill do not deserve to be in the playoffs.
College Park needs to play all the Ebal teams next year in the preseason. Period. That will answer some questions. So get on it.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:42 am
I agree with the DIV-I seedings but the DIV-II? wow 12-12 heritage home game and Arroyo 17-6 and a HAAL 2nd place position gets to travel over 288 miles tay a game? hmmmm not cool. I think there should be a destination area between both San Lorenzo and Arcata so both teams travel equal. WHo cares about a league title for Eureka. They have 4 teams in there league and all have the same ability as a tennyson in HAAL. i bet if Arroyo played Tennyson 12 times, Arroyo would be sittin on a bye for the first round. Once again Arroyo not getting any respect who beats CV and O Dowd respectivly and not getting any credit.I remember last year me being at the Livermore game, Arroyo was probably the best teeam we played all year around. I know that was last year but they still need to get the respect. This seeding is all horrible.Its to see the better and higher team and Arroyo loosing to heritage but a better record gets put under them? and Arroyo beating a #4 seed DIV-I team o dowd hmmmm kinda weird.
May 19th, 2009 at 11:21 am
HSbbguru,
That isn’t what I said, and if i did (im not going to take the time to review old posts) it isn’t what I meant. What I said (or meant to say) is that College Park should be the ONLY team with a gripe. I guessed that they may get in, based on overall record and being defending champs. I said that it is very tough to argue with the selection of San Ramon based on two things. 1. It is a fact that the EBAL is tougher than the DVAL and 2) San Ramon BEAT CP! Do we need more evidence? If you aren’t going to take “strength of schedule” into consideration why do you not vehemently disagree with De La Salle being awarded the #1 seed? If it isnt based on that a 16-8 team shouldn’t be rated so highly. But because of their brutal schedule and incredible finish…they are worthy.
Do we agree that there are really only 13 teams in the debate? The 12 that got in and CP? That’s my stance anyway.
May 19th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
And the post at 938 am wasn’t me. That was you.
May 19th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
prepbbfan- it doesn’t really matter now. In my humble opinion college park should have made it and DV should be a higher seed. I just do not believe that san ramon and foothill are worthy just because they play in the EBAL or Foothill beat freedom early in the season. If you go by who beat who do you think granada gets in because they beat the number 1 seed DLS? I guess there is really no fair way to do this. Maybe they should consider going back to 16 teams or stay at 12 and not let a team like BO petition up. Enough from me about who should or shouldn’t make it. I just hope all division 1 teams that are in NCS play good baseball an may the best team win..
May 20th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Don’t really know too much about baseball, but I do know it is wrong on so many levels for any high school team, no matter what the sport, having to travel hundreds of miles, duing the school week to play. Especially, if they got seeded higher, but didn’t win their league. What is the point of seeding you higher if you get the greatest disadvantage anyway?
May 22nd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
BOD should not petition up. They play (check maxpreps) one of the weakest schedules in all of NCS and go one and out for the 3rd straight year. I guess the baseball coach learns from their pathetic football coach on how to pad a record.
CAL HI 10 BOD 5 SEE YA
May 22nd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Low Blow…LOL
May 28th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
I think it’s very wrong that EVERY OTHER DIVISION EXCEPT IV gets to play at the Oakland Coloseum while Salesian & St.M’s Get sent to a San Rafael City Park…
Even Div. V is playing in Oakland. Way to go, NCS.