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Oakland’s Damante Horton commits to Wash State
By Jimmy Durkin
Monday, June 15th, 2009 at 10:07 pm in Uncategorized.
UPDATED: Here’s my story for tomorrow’s paper.
By Jimmy Durkin
STAFF WRITER
Oakland High football player Damante Horton can enter his senior season with a free and clear mind.
The talented playmaker gave his oral commitment to Washington State on Monday and will join the Cougars in the fall of 2010.
“I think it helps set him up for a great senior year,” Oakland coach Desmond Gumbs said. “He knows he’s going up to play Division I football in the Pac-10.”
Horton had more than a dozen offers and decided on a school that, according to Gumbs, had Horton listed as their top choice to play defensive back.
“(Washington State) is very excited about him playing DB,” Gumbs said. “He was No. 1 on their board. He’s a great find for them.”
Horton had a breakout junior season for Oakland, which went 8-3 and earned a share of the Oakland Athletic League’s regular-season title with a 4-1 league mark. That came just a year removed from an 0-10 overall record.
“I’m glad we were able to turn (the program) around,” Horton said. “Since I’ve been getting scholarship offers, everybody else has been trying to get scholarships, too. It feels real good to be part of something like that.”
In 11 games, he caught a league-leading 39 passes for 570 yards and also had 60 carries for 578 yards. Defensively, he was a shutdown corner with game-breaking ability, returning two interceptions for touchdowns.
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June 15th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Are you telling me this guys was better then Aaron Horne last year?
June 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
He and Horne were pretty close this year. His advantage going into his senior year is having a full junior season under his belt. Horne missed the first five games of his junior year. I’d definitely say to keep your eye on him this year. He’s a talent.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:58 am
What college is aaron horne headed to jimmy or roeper?
June 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Aaron is going to do a semester at CCSF and play there this fall. After that, he’ll likely head to a Div. I school.
June 16th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Yeah, my brother is better then Aaron Horne. YOu need to see him play.
June 17th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Both were VERY good football players, but if you had to really choose yeah Horton was better. He was a little bit taller, and a year younger and that is probably what was hurting Horne the most his size, but he is still a D1 ball player I just hate he choose to go over to City when Laney is doing REALLY big things!
June 18th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
E_Culb, the word is that Castlemont is black balling Laney because Beam never let him play a game on the main field at last years Passing tourney at Laney. The word is that Laney was jocking Palma & DLS & let them play all their games on the main field when Castle never lost a game. And at last years Passing League Beam had Castlemont always playing at 8pm.
Thats just what I heard.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
That Laney tourney was three years ago now and I was there and I remember DLS and Palma both playing games on the upper field. Palma beat O-high on the upper field at that tourney so if that the reason it sure is a poor one, and Castle must have lost a game because the played in the consolation bracket against Jessie Bethel after they beat us and Palma and DLS where in the championship game. And I made the schedule for the passing league that year so I guess its my fault they played at 8 LOL. But in the end wether or not they send there kids to Laney the Eagles are rolling and the kids are getting out so if they dont want to be apart of that then thats too bad!
June 20th, 2009 at 1:21 am
I agree with you eculb, becasue of course I was coaching at that passing league for Oakland High. Plus that would be stupid to do something like that over a passing league game which means absolutely nothing. Pklus I would hope a coach would not get that high and mighty after having a few winning seasons. Anfd to add to eculb, Laney is rolling but as you know Eculb everyone can’t play there either, if you know what I mean! You have to be ready mentally, and be mature. next question is is Horne a partial qualifier or what, since they were talking about him doing 1 year?
June 20th, 2009 at 7:52 am
Horne actually is fully qualified, but found out a little bit too late in the game that he was and that complicated the recruiting process. That’s why he’s looking to just do the one semester and then move on.
June 21st, 2009 at 9:58 am
Haven’t heard of Castlemont being at any Laney functions since then & don’t know of any of their players that have gone to Laney so I guess Barnes took it more serious then you guys. Pretty stupid on Laney’s part. They should always be catering to the schools closest to them.
Laney’s done in the Richmond, Oakland, Berkely, & Alameda after this year anyway. When Carter gets the job at Contra Costa he’s gonna be easily out recruiting Beam & Uchiumi. Only school Laney will get any players out is Skyline & maybe Fremont High. He’s got much better relationships with Coaches in those cities & Richmond will be his area. So you know Richmond will be wrapped up.
June 21st, 2009 at 2:31 pm
sounds like were bout to have recruiting war when coach carter gets to c.c!
June 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
yeah carter proved he was a good recruiter when he recruited Eliiot Dorsey out of Tennyson a few years back.
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:04 am
You saying it like recruiting a kids from one public school to the next is actually legal. Thats funny
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:47 am
cant blame dorsey for gettin out of tennyson though!
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
you really can’t blame Dorsey either he left tennyson and made the playoffs…to where tennyson finished prolly 4-6
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 am
Yeah, it doesn’t take much to leave that place.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:02 am
He would of did better staying at tennyson. His name was brought up all over the league his junior year.
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:12 am
He did better at Tennyson then at Berkeley
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
You guys sound crazy, this is a whole different level and I guarantee Laney will not have a problem getting kids to attend. First of all it will be a big adjustment for Zo coaching the college level, he will have to adjust plus it will take alot of time to build that up. Laney is like a D1 school, they are organized and have things working for them, and their is no way that Zo will hurt that, trust me! You guys are too caught up on hype instead of facts. I have seen what CC is working with already, they have a long way to go! and it’s not like they are going to be full of divsion 1 players, becasue everyone is not a d1 player so alot of players are going their just becasue Zo is going to be there next season and they think he can get them to a D1 school, but they kids has to get himself to that level, plus that’s the wrong reason to go to a school just becasue a certain coach is going to be there, persoanlly I think he should stay at Berkeley and keep working to develop these kids. but I don’t mind seeing him advance to the next level, but it will be an adjustment for him and his staff.
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:49 am
I think Danny Calcogno was one of the best High School coaches in the area when he was at San Leandro. But the bottom line is that he just can’t recruit well & hasn’t had the success he should. Take Laney middle of the pack team when Peters was in his last years. What was the difference? Beam got there and started doing what he does recruiting his ass off. Basically the same coaching staff Beam brang some flavor but same guys. Laney started getting plasyers from every where & what do you know they startd going 10-1 9-2. JC ball is about gathering athletes. Period. Carter can do it better then Beam but I think Beam’s a lil better with his X’s & O’s.
Some of the recruits Carter got from other schools while he was a Mack was astonishing. Mario Cox from EC Tatum from St. Mary’s he even got some kids to come to Mack from Pittsburg. He was getting the best kids from the flatlands in Oakland he even got that kid Island who’s brother was a raw RB for Skyline. This is in HIGH SCHOOL where recruitng varsity players is illegal but he was still getting kids to come to a lil hood school in West Oakland. At a JC with recruitng totally legal you smoking Grimmies BigGreen if you don’t think CC would get turned out by Carter.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 am
Not an expert by any means, still learning, but don’t some kids who don’t immediately attend a D1 school after highschool pick the JC based on what they run, how their position will fit in and the odds of getting them into a D1 school? Although CCSF didn’t do as well this last season, I heard they have a pretty good program. I am sure if I am wrong someone will correct me, which I welcome, because again, I am still learning. Also, why does it seem that everyone knows about the “illegal” high school recruiting, yet it continues?
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
it continues because no one is speaking up and most people dont wanna speak up and snitch on a certain school because not only it hurts the coach, it also stops the kid from playing. nobody wants to be the reason why a kid cant play the whole season and if that kid is a senior then his high school football career is over
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Okay, I can understand that and in a way I can see two sides to that. If the Coach is recruiting illegally, the kid and his parents are probably aware, then not playing is a consequence, on the other hand, sometimes the school you are supposed to go to has a horrible program, coaching etc and unlike basketball where you still have the AAU season, you really have nothing other than your high school football season. I don’t know, it just all seems really unfair.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Yea that is true and it is unfair. some coaches are gonna keep on recruiting til someone gets in huge trouble for it.
June 23rd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Roeper, I’ll just put it like this when it comes to JC football kids want to see results, they go to JC with the continued hope that they will be able to go D1, many do but many also dont. Will Zo get kids there? No doubt! But to say “Laney’s done in the Richmond, Oakland, Berkely, & Alameda after this year anyway” is a little nieve, first off if you live in Oakland and are a resonable 25-30 minute bus ride from any corner of Oakland away from Laney or if you bart it you are dropped off right at the campus why would you then turn your day into a 1.5 to 2 hour commute per day? Trust me that makes a big difference when your in college and broke! Secondly, lets be brutly honest and let me start this off by saying I am a GIANT inner-city football fan, but the fact is Laney isnt rolling now off the backs of those players so not getting them would not look good for there program but it wont kill it either. For Laney and CC to be most effective on the field the battle must be won in the Antioch, Pittsburg, Danville, Fremont, and Hayward area’s. For the most part this is where the best football is played at in the Bay Area.
And lastly Roeper you must understand that the biggest recuriting tool any school can and will have is former players. When kids from Hayward high hear about how Chuck Walker, and Troy Evans blew up at Laney makes them look at Laney really closely. And on a side not the players must realize this ultimately your getting a schollie will depend mostly on you, what you do in the off-season, what you do on the field, and most importantly what you do in the classrom! (Laney promo time!LOL) Laney has a counselour specifically for athelets, and the players get registration priority and anybody that has ever took a college course you know those classes fill up really quick!
But alas I think you said it best Green, everybody cant play at Laney. Discipline comes first, and second, then all the other stuff.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Laney has without a doubt the 1st or 2nd established program in the Bay Area….not only because of Coach Beam but because Coach Jackson is out all everyday visiting High School players at practices everyday building relationships with many of the East Bay’s Elite Players…that is very very hard nearly impossible to compete with….Chabot will stay at the bottom of the barrel because Coach Cal doesn’t do any recruiting of any kind and has trouble pushing players on Laney,City and San Mateo don’t have that problem….CC will take some years to get on the elite level but Carter can possibly make tht happpen within 6 years I wouldn’t doubt it…
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
when carter lands at c.c. will laney be on there schedule? does anyone know what carter & beams record are head 2 head?
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Thats good for Horton to get this offer and play at a good school. I’m happy for him and he is one of the best in the bay. Good Luck! All this talk about Laney and CCC is crazy. Zo will bring in some boys when get gets there trust that. He will turn that program around and have these kids looking at CCC as the JC to go to.
June 24th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Why would it take anybody 6 years to rebuild a JC? You only get players you recruit for 2 years of eligibility then you gotta find someone else. Why recruiting is the name of JC ball. Laney gotta lot of cats for 3 by having players Gray shirt a year(practice no play) props to Beam on that did his thing with recruiting.
Fremont, Hayward, Antioch, Culberson?? Your tripping homie. What good football players or NCS championships have come out of there. You’re not gonna say Concord? Pittsburg got boys can’t deny it they had the best athletes in the bay area last year(don’t know why they can’t beat De La).
BY far the best athletes (size, speed, strength, aggressiveness is my definition of athlete) come out of Oakland then Richmond. Not teams. ATHLETES. The best teams & the best developed athletes come outta the valley & thats props to the kids out there they just want it a lil more then the kids in the East Bay. Schools administration does to though. Every school has multiple Strength & conditioning classes & athletic hour PE classes for year arond football that the East Bay don’t have school to school.
I firmly believe that Carter will be in all those cities too he got kids at Mack from Pittsburg. The majority of the best athletes from Oakland area, Berkely, & Richmond will be at CC a lot of them Gray shirting. So give it 2-3 years. He won’t run the best scheme but his boys will be developed discipline & I believe have more scholorships year to year then Laney & that E. Culb is what sells your school. I’m sure thats what Laney sold you on when they got you there right? Told you how many kids they got to the next level year to year.
June 24th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Roeper I might have to agree with you on the Valley players. My nephew played a couple of years in the East Bay and then in the Valley. It was way more serious out there. It seems like the whole town comes out for the games and it is all about football all year around, you are working with trainers, attending camps, running track, always something to do with your football season, which I am sure happens out here, too, but it was definitely more intense.The kids have very little in the way of entertainment, so you train. By the way, depending on what you’re gonna get, you may travel a little further to a good JC. He went where the offense was going to highlight his skills and get him to that D1 school and that happened to be 1.5 hours away.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Who is the head coach right now at CCC? i know that they fired Coach Mac after the last season…They should give the job to Dave Johnson he’s been there for 30 years and he’s a great coach!!!
June 24th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
No, actually that did not get me there I just went I was a bounce back. (Oh yeah forgot about those)
June 24th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
“Fremont, Hayward, Antioch, Culberson?? Your tripping homie. What good football players or NCS championships have come out of there. You’re not gonna say Concord? Pittsburg got boys can’t deny it they had the best athletes in the bay area last year(don’t know why they can’t beat De La).”
At first I was a little unsure of what you meant by this comment, but just so you know I named those cities to highlight the areas that it takes to build your teams. Yeah, I would agree some of the best athelets come from the Oakland, and Richmond areas. But dont get it twisted a lot of families moved out to the areas I named so a great amount of athelets come from out that way also. Oh and by the way here is a list of players that signed out of Laney this past season play close attention to where they are from. And in order to get to Deer Valley you gotta pass through Concord correct??
TRAVIS FORD – CLAYTON VALLEY – COLORADO ST.
STERLING MOORE – DEER VALLEY – SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIV. (SMU)
OMAR JACOBS – SKYLINE – HOFSTRA
MARVIN JONES – JESSE BETHEL – ABELINE CHRISTIAN
LeROY JOHNSON – SAINEHA (TONGA) – OLD DOMINIION, UNLV, WASHINGTON ST.
JASON MENDIETA – NEWARK – CITADEL
CAMERON BROWN – OAKLAND HIGH – HENDERSON ST.
CHIZZY DIMUDE – MT. EDEN – HAWAII
TROY EVANS – HAYWARD – MARSHALL
CHARLES GATLIN – OAKLAND TECH – NORTH CAROLINA ST.
WILLIAM TAYLOR – OAKLAND HIGH – HENDERSON ST.
MARK TAYLOR – LOGAN – UNIV. NEVADA-RENO
L.J. HUGHES – DEER VALLEY – UNIV. OF SAN DIEGO
June 25th, 2009 at 1:31 am
Okay first of all gentlemen let’s get a few things straight! This article was supposed to be about the young man Damantae Horton committing to Wash St. so I have no idea how my name is even a topic but since you speaking on me let’s make sure you know what you are talking about. All this talk about me and Coach Beam the last time I checked Coach Uch is the Head Coach of Laney College and I have all the up most respect for him! As far as me recruiting kids in High School I don’t have to recruit because when you are good at what you do and run a good program people take notice of that so I wish you guys would stop affiliating my name with recruiting because I didn’t and I don’t have to! As far as Elliot Dorsey the last time I checked he’s a Pre-Season All State Div 1 prospect at Safety not QB which I moved him to his Sr year at Berk Hs and He made first team all league so who ever made that comment about him being better at Tennyson your dead wrong!!!!! He was a QB on a last place team in the HAAL? so come on give me a break! he’s not a QB!! and as far as your comments Mr Green i’m not sure what you and my good friend E-Culb is talking about both of you guys sound very Laney byassed because both of yaw played their and Laney was not to HOT!! 5-5 or 4-6 something like that so as you can see with your Troy Evans, your Frank Summers etc. you can flip your program with some good players and yaw both NO if and when I get the CC job there is going to be some problems because like they said from Pittsburg, Antioch, Richmond, Vallejo, and of course Oakland it’s a wrap so will see if they can stand on there feet and don’t count me out the Hayward and Pleasanton/Livermore area I got peeps out their also so Green do me a favor keep my name out your mouth unless it’s about something positive because the last I checked you are not qualified to comment on my credentials as a Head Coach and kinda sound like you’re taking a bite at my heels and now I gotta watch you because you sound a little suspect!! So Love me or Hate and whether some of yaw like me or not? I gets the job done and the job is to give these young men chances to win games and go to the NEXT LEVEL and that’s what this damn article was suppose to be about anyway Damantae Horton not Alonzo Carter! Congrads young man and Go Cougs!!
June 25th, 2009 at 5:41 am
Wow!!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:47 am
“Some of the recruits Carter got from other schools while he was a Mack was astonishing. … He was getting the best kids from the flatlands.”
C’mon now. I’m not going to name names, but how many kids from the flatlands (esp. East Oakland) went up the hill to play for Skyline over the years? What about the safety from Hayward a few years back who did pretty well for himself after HS at Cal? Or the QB in the mid-90s from Pitt?
It’s Oakland. It happens all the time. No biggie. You have a good program, kids go there.
Besides, how many of Zo’s “illegal” recruits were just West Oakland kids who decided to come back?
* Correct me if I’m wrong, but the only 2 times Zo beat Beam head-to-head was 2001, snapping Skyline’s 40-something-game OAL unbeaten streak and then again in the Silver Bowl.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:06 am
The HAAL is stronger than the ACCL. The HAAL has more D1 and D2 high schools than the ACCL. Berkeley is the only D1 school in the league. Yea dorsey did his thing at B-High being name all league, but he did the same thing at tennyson in a harder league. Yea B-High rolled over Castro and Castro rolled over Tennyson but the kid did really good at both schools. Just saying more people knew about him at Tennyson. Its really good to see him wheres at now being a D1 prospect and yes its all about Damante Horton. No more “Cater Talk” cuz Carter is also making moves and moving up. Congrats on that and congrats to Horton. Turn the program around and give us fans more teams to watch other than CAL and USC. GOOD LUCK!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:09 am
And when I say Castro rolled over Tennyson, I am speaking about this past season not when Dorsey was at Tennyson
June 25th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Now Zo (this is the last of the Carter talk! LOL) you and I both know I’m biased! LOL
June 25th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I thought Tennyson beat CV the year Dorsey was at Berkeley….In fact they did because Max Carmona Torched CV for 300 and sumthin yards
June 25th, 2009 at 11:08 am
The HAAL has bigger schools then the ACCAL but since 2005 definetly not better then the ACCAL. 3 out of 4 years O’dowd could not beat the 3rd or 4th best team in the ACCAL Alameda. Since Haagenson & Moreno left SLZ & Hayward have done nothing & are middle to lower pack teams(a shame whats happening at SLZ same athletes). Tennyson, Castro Valley, Mt. Eden are all jokes O’dowd easily puts 50 shots up on all these teams but can barely get out of the 1st round of d-111. When O’dowd does play a good team like a Y.V. or Marin Catholic they get 28-0 or S.L. they get handled.
Pinole down year last year but 8 or 9 win team every year 3rd round of d-11 in 2007. EC strong d-111 team play-offs every year finals against Miramonte in 2006 with one of the most potent offenses I’ve ever seen.
Alameda down last year 4 staright 7-3 win teams & play-offs. Encinal gone now but 9-3 in 2007 2nd round of play-offs. B-high doing just as good as S.L. play-offs & lose 1st round. Don’t know why S.L. vs B-High isn’t an annual game.
Definetely ACCAL way more speed too.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:11 am
e_culb you heard from zo if & when he takes over it’s gonna be a problem!laney better b ready!
June 25th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I’m sure they will be! Wont it be fun! Cant wait to see them on each others schedule!
June 25th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Richmond, De Anza and Hercules are more of a joke than Tennyson Castro and MT.Eden. 4 wins combine for the ACCL weakest teams. Yea ill give props to B High, El Cerrito and Pinole Valley. They got good players..but the other schools..gotta win more than 3 games and cash flow..i said this past season like last season when tennyson lost 49 to 14 against castro
June 25th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Yeah..I read about that Castro let their anger out on a talent less tennyson..I seen them play against San Leandro and I felt bad because Tennyson had a decent quarterback where if he had some talent around him he woulda really showed out and a defensive line that was a above average guy.I don’t understand how those two kids could deal with that situation.
June 25th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
just gotta play football and good athletes and leaders. Learn how to play harder and fight harder when you know everyone is depending on them to make a difference
June 25th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
forgot the word “be” haha
June 25th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Beam is cool. But question is who will be the better JC recruiter? I got Zo on the recruits but Beam on the scheme. Beam always competes.
June 25th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Laney and CCC will always have to compete against the CCSF boys
June 25th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Yea City is the Mac Daddy in the Bay’s JC football scene..City gets a lot of Bounce Backs…San Mateo does a good job too
June 25th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Yeah City gets what Laney, or CC (as of now) dont get, guys from out of state. And not just anybodies but guys who were getting SEC, Big 12 looks.
June 25th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Laney and CC probably wil never get those guys either
June 25th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
WHo takes over at Berk and Pinole after this year????
June 25th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Now that I wouldnt put pass Coach Carter (dang mentioned him again) that man know people everywhere!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
He may know people everywhere but City has an established reputation for winning and pushing players on to big time div 1 schools…Carter has been doin a fabulous job in the high school ranks but Junior College Football is a whole different ball game..
June 26th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Both Zo and Beam are Great coaches. They both have put kids into to college. That is what is all about, the kids going to college and getting and education. Those Skyline Teams Beam Coached and the McClymonds Teams ZO had could have competed against anybody. ZO is right, he does not have to recruit and the article is about Damonte HOrton, Congrat Damante. Kids want to play for him. He wins, he is honest, and he runs a great program and most of all, the kids go on to four year schools. I would of loved to play for either coach
June 26th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Alot of those kids Zo had where from West Oakland. ZO inspired those kids to get there mind right, and you see the result. The ones who came over to Mack from other school, could you blame them. They wanted an oppurtunity to go to the next level. He provided that oppurtunity for them.
June 26th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Lets really look at this…Yes Laney has been on a nice roll back winning and getting top area players and moving them on…Now with Contra Costa its a place where if a coach like Coach Carter is the head man…Top kids from the east bay and north bay will want to play at CCC and will win and move players on… There is so much talent in the east bay that I can see both teams doing well which is good for East bay football and great for the kids/young men … Green we both know its not always about the X’s and O’s Sometime its about the jimmy’s and joe’s…
Now to get back to Mr.Damante Horton I am so happy for him along with being a great talent he has a head on him…That is ready to be a D1 football player.. Both Mr.Horton and Aaron Horne were great last year but I have to give the nod to Damante Horton being he was a JR…
June 26th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Man….. Carter will bring in lots of talent and he will win games because simply the kids love and respect his game, his resume speaks for its self and so there for why wouldnt players follow him to a JC? Just because CCC is in richmond means nothin…. Its the same thing where all the richmond kids and hayward kids traveling to Laney to play ball. For some of yall to say that he cant compete with Laney is crazy…. Carter got boys coming up there no matter what you haters have to say. Laney better watch out.
June 26th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Cant wait for the season to start..Taking too long!!
June 26th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Bottom line, Both are Great Coaches. And the main thing is they put young men in position to earn a free education. I like both coaches, they both have different styles. No one said anything about skyline in their glory years when all the boys from the flat land went up on the hill. MOst of the boys who went to mack were from the area. ZO did an excellent job. He made those boys believe.
June 26th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
in the End City will always be King Of The Bay plain and simple….no matter what type of talent Carter brings Contra Costa….And I don’t know wat talent from the Hayward area u guys are talking about because I don’t see any speed besides Roberson,Brown and the returner from CV that’s it…Arroyo,Mt Eden,Hayward,SLZ and Tennyson all will have terrible season due to lack of talent….and again the HAAL is Coach Jackson’s territory he bring the Best the East Bay has to offer to Laney….Carter won’t get any of the Hayward,Mt Eden,Tennyson,or Bishop Odowd players because of the Strong hold Laney and Coach Jackson have on the Hayward Area and Beams strong strong hold on most of the OAL schools…City and San Mateo have the strong hold on the pennisula…so Carter will have some work to do to get guys in there
June 29th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Who won more games when Zo went up against Beam?
June 29th, 2009 at 10:56 am
before zo moves on hope he can win a ncs playoff game!i think he’s a good motivator & does a great job gettin kids to hit the books but on the field not impressed with his offense or defense scheme. which is y i don’t see berkeley competing in d-1 playoffs even though he has the talent & 3500 kids to choose from. i’ll take bergman from monte vista or sweeney from foothill on game day to coach my team.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Just a side note to all of those this article was about Damonte Horton posters, guess what this article has been up since the 15th of June and the posts werent flowing, subject evolved and now everyone wants to go back to the article topic.
June 29th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Horton will go on to the Pac 10 and represent the the OAL very well! As for Zo, no other coach in history has put the OAL on the national map like he has. You should keep in mind Bill Johnson Zo has won back to back ACCL titles in just two years.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Ooooh, careful there about “no other coach in history has put OAL on the national map…” Not taking anything away from Zo and the good things he’s done, but remember the OAL is one of the most historic leagues in the nation. While neither were coaches during their time in the OAL, two athletes from the OAL did become the first African-American coaches in the history of their respective sports (Bill Russell, basketball and Frank Robinson, baseball). And any conversation of OAL coaches probably has to begin with George Powles, http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/ci_12596677
June 30th, 2009 at 10:35 am
oak fan he better win the accal when he’s the only d-1 team in that league. he’ll win this year too no doubt but i need to see a win in ncs cuz that’s what seperates contenders from the pretenders. he still in my eyes hasnt really had a significant win at berkeley. he has played monte vista, foothill, pitt, de la,& deer valley twice no wins my friend.
June 30th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Oak Fan,
See the end of Comment No. 37 to answer your earlier question about Zo vs. Beam head-to-head.
June 30th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Ok, Jimmy your are right… Maybe I went a little bit to far about saying Zo was the only coach in history to put the OAL on the map on a national level… No one can compare to the impact that George Powles had in Oakland. However when it comes to getting D1 scholarships for kids there is no one in the whole Bay Area that can compare to Zo not the Coaches from De La salle, Monte Vista, Foothill, San Leandro, or Bishop O’Dowd. Bill Johnson even though Berkeley may the only D1 school in the ACCL they were not winning championships until Zo got there (Don’t Hate).
June 30th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Ok, I’ve been quiet on this subject for too long now… Here’s my two cents… First off before I give my opinion Congrats and Good Luck to my fellow Wildcat Mr. Horton… Makes us proud and always remember the legacy at Jackie Jensen Field. We’ll be rooting you on bruh.
Now, on to the good stuff. Beam vs. Carter!!!! Both coaches are tremendous MEN first off and exceptional coaches second. I had the pleasure of playing for Beam in an All-Star game back in 2000 and it was an experience I’ll never forget. I almost had the chance to play for Carter in high school, but Moms wouldn’t let me transfer(NO, I wasn’t recruited)… Which brings me to my first point… What do we consider recruiting??? I highly doubt any of these coaches are sending letters/text messages to athletes. Call me naive, but I highly doubt that. What I will say is this… There is a very popular/successful high school coach that is a very close family friend, he/she comes to my house(or my parents house) quite often. They were doing so even before I was in high school. I played for them in AAU ball… Is him coming to my house and talking to me about his/hers respective school recruiting???? I don’t think so. I think there are many situations like that. These are local coaches who mostly grew up in the area they coach and they kno a lot of people with kids/nieces/nephews/cousins who are in high school. That’s it.
As far as Carter going to Contra Costa… The man is a businessman, salesman, and a good coach. Why wouldn’t kids wanna play for him? The man sold Cal, we’re talking CAL here on a player who’s ONLY offer was from Portland State!!!!!! Do you hear what I’m saying? I WISH I would’ve played for him. His strength training abilities are second to none(see Nnamdi Asomugha and Courtney Anderson)… To me, he only loses to Beam in longevity and number of players in the NFL. Beam has been doing this for a VERY long time. He’s starting to coach the kids of players he originally coached. He’s littered kids all over the NFL… Marvel Smith, Gerris Bowers-Wilkinson, Frank Summers, Davone Bess, and I’m sure there are more that might’ve been before my time. He’s coached numerous high school/college All-Americans as well. Not sure Carter has that type of resume. Carter will also need to graduate his kids like Laney does… Coach Peters set a standard there that continues to this day. He’ll also need to surround himself w/ assistants like Beam and coach Jackson. One thing I do know about Zo is that he is smart and he is competitive. Contra Costa will not be a power ovenight, but I don’t see it taking longer than 2 years for him to change the culture over there. Laney and CCC will battle for years to come… It’ll be fun and attendance will be large!!!! Both schools will get their athletes… The only schools that are in trouble are Chabot and DVC. Laney and CCC will be Texas and Oklahoma… Chabot and DVC will be UTEP and SMU. Good luck to Beam and Zo, and gimme some free tix!!!!
June 30th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
GREAT POV MR. EDWARDS!
July 1st, 2009 at 6:33 am
Who’s Jackson? Whatdoes he coach & how long has he been at Laney? People are talking a lot about him & I’ve never heard of him. I know of Beam, Uch, Dillion, Gifford, Ramirez(I think his name is), Peters Son(might be gone now), Piedmont coach I thnk coaches d-line, Kevin Evans is there to I heard. Don’t know Jackson what high school did he come from? Everybody says this guy has Hayward area locked up??
July 1st, 2009 at 6:49 am
Jackson’s been coaching in this area since he started at his alma mater Tennyson in 2000. Then he went to Hayward with Moreno when he left Tennyson to go there and eventually moved on to Chabot and now Laney for the last few years.
July 1st, 2009 at 10:27 am
oak fan tell me this if he’s got all these d-1 players y hasnt he won a playoff game? i believe he is a good motivator & gets kids to committe but he’s scheme is vanilla. berkeley last headcoach was terrible anyone thats organized could have come to berkeley & won against that competition. he better win league or no playoffs. thats a fact not hatin! tell me who berkeley best win was? please don’t say logan thought i was watchin a jv game the way neither team could complete a pass that game.
July 1st, 2009 at 10:36 am
kenny edwards who is the favorite to win oal this year?
July 1st, 2009 at 10:49 am
Billjohnson… So what your saying is everybody in ACCL are JV players? I don’t think the players and coaches at PV and EL would be happy with that comment. How can you discredit the James Logan win? James Logan has been a powerhouse in the Bay Area for years. It is a FACT that Zo came in and change the way they do things at Berkeley and they WON! Now he is going to do the same thing at CC.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:58 am
logan has been a good program in da past but last year they were way down. logan beat know one last year & got trounced in da playoffs. as for da accal last year they were down look at wat those teams did in non-league el cerrito & p.v got there hats handed 2 them. e.c made da playoffs lost 2 jfk fremont who went on to give up a 50 burger in the next round! oal fan tell me than wats zo’s most significant win at berkeley & y hasnt he got it done come playoff time?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:33 pm
i believe zo does a great job with these kids. i just dont believe he has the sceme to beat good teams when they have equal size & talent. I blast is hard to run when the other team is just as big & talented as you. yes it’s won him some league titles at mack & berkeley but that won’t cut it against the studs you face in ncs d-1. in the end you wanna be ncs champ not just league champs!
July 1st, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Bill Johnson… Zo has been at Berkeley for two years and won two championships period… It is easy to say that he dose not play anybody but the FACT still remains the he did win wether the last coach was terrible or not the FACT is that he still won. I don’t know if you remember but Zo was suspended for the playoffs the first year when they played De La Salle. I also want to say that I am not on Zo’s … at all I just want to let everyone know that Zo has done more than anyone around here for our kids and he dose not get a fraction of the respect that other coaches at De La Salle or Bishop O’Dowd get.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Berkeley beat OAL Silver Bowl champs I hate to say but that was a big pre-season win.
July 1st, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Any information on that High School all star game coming up….Date/Time…Rosters…Coaches…Players to watch for?
July 1st, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Here is the web site for the All star game.
http://www.highschoolballistics.com/
July 1st, 2009 at 8:29 pm
BillJohnson, I haven’t done my homework quite yet, but I believe the early favorite is Castlemont… If I’m not mistaken they return a lot of players from last year’s championship team. I’d be exiled from Park Blvd and MacArthur if I didn’t include my alma mater in the mix as well. Fremont is going to have to replace Coach Denard who did a terrific job last year… Skyline is the new Nebraska(once a powerhouse w/ a legendary coach, now a dud with a rotating door)… Tech has Coach D and a nice field, thats about it… Mack has a good coach, a new weight room, and a new scoreboard they might be able to restore the glory. That’s my summer rundown. Who do you have?
July 1st, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Quick question for us sports bloggers… Has the CIF become the NCAA??? Since when did winning “bowl/playoff” games become more important than graduating players and making them better men??? Zo does that with his kids… He graduates them and makes them better men. Who cares how many playoff games he’s won! Let’s focus on how many LIVES he’s changed!
July 1st, 2009 at 8:51 pm
I seen Castlemont a few weeks back at James Logan’s Full Contact Camp including Castle,Logan,Mt Eden and Tennyson…..Castle has a very strong running game led by Oakland Raider Running Back Darren McFadden’s lil brother and a very strong defense with big defensive linemen….Then I seen O High play Tennyson in a scrimmage last Thursday and The Oakland defense had a little trouble stopping the Teejay Ner-less Lancer running game and gave up a touchdown pass but The Wildcat offense picked up the slack with big run and a few big pass plays but Castlemont has a better D-Line and O-Line and a few more athletes thn O High
July 1st, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Welcome back Kenny Boy!
July 1st, 2009 at 11:59 pm
kenny i like castle-fremont-o high-mack-tech-skyline in that order. whats become of skyline is sad just shows you how good of a coach beam is. cuz when he left most of the staff stayed but couldnt get it done with out the brains of the operation.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:00 am
MACK IS BACK!
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:06 am
oal fan i believe de la salle won the championship for d-1 football. berkeley won a league title. let me get this right OAL FAN castlemont is berkeley best win in 2 years? they had a good team but come on they tied concord at home & concord was alright middle of the pack type team.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 am
i hope mack is back cuz losin to salesian at home last year had 2 be embarassing!
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:15 am
“Zo Hater”… I mean Bill Johnson lol… PLEASE will just break- down and give the Zo some credit! Zo cannot change the ACCL schedule nor can he coach a playoff game where is not able to go on the field. Let’s keep it real, Zo and his staff have made a huge impact on both schools.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:27 am
oal fan why was he not allowed to coach? i’m sure he would have made a difference in that 59-0 nail bitter! forget the accal who’s he beat in non-league? at mack in non-league played dorsey 3 times no wins valley christian twice 0-2 bellarmine,san leandro,logan you guessed it 0-3 tied liberty who went 0-9-1 that season. played crenshaw 4 times he went 1-3. at berkeley lost to pitt, de la, foothill & split with logan not to mention the 2 loses to deer valley who seem to have his number. no hatin here homie just facts! he’s a good coach already said many times but his scheme dont cut the mustard against good teams.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:32 am
Okay Bill Johnson the feud is over… You win, I don’t have a come back. Just don’t let B-high win the state title this year because if they do I will be letting you have it on this blog.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 am
oal fan if berkeley can avoid pitt or any team from the ebal they just might win ncs!
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 am
Bill Johnson… I have two words for you, RICKY GALVIN. Not to mention Berkeley High O-Line averages about 290lbs
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 am
e_culb wat happen last year against skyline? saw them play last year they were horrible.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:44 am
oal fan two words for you DE LA!
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 am
oal fan doesnt matter berkeley will neva eva win ncs as long as the spartans are around. if berkeley beats pitt that should be enough for you cuz winning d-1 is a pipe dream.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:49 am
Bill Johnson why are you jockin the valley so much?
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:50 am
By the way that was a very funny come back with the DE LA comment.
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 am
oal fan i already told you facts my friend.you dont think de la is gonna win it?
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 am
oal fan don’t you think it’s funny how o’dowd is playin skyline now but when beam was there perenon was ducking him?
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:57 am
I know that Zo is going to go out with a bang! Besides I know that he has a few recruits coming from out of state that will put him and over the top. Watch out DE LA
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:59 am
sh*t i just hope he wins a playoff forget a bang. hope those recruits dont cost him not coach’n in da playoffs again.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:02 am
We finally agree! Perenon is over-rated! He will duck anyone who has a slim chance of beating his team. He will always play a last place OAL team. He used to play fremont but the last time they played the game was to close so he never scheduled them again. Now he thinks that he can beat up on a weak Skyline team. I hope they beat him.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:03 am
oal fan is galvin better than smith from ’07?
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:05 am
CIF rules state that if a player has a valid move everything is okay. So if these kids are coming from out of state I am sure they will get cleared.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 am
wats up with martin from o’dowd? heard he’s outta there.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:09 am
Galvin is the best I have seen in a few years great vision super quick! Zo always seems to find good backs has one starting for Washington.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:12 am
oal fan no doubt carter finds good backs but how’s there q.b? thats wats gonna get berkeley over the hump if they want 2 make some noise come playoff time against the ebal or pitt.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:14 am
He has a young QB tall and strong but has a little ways to go.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:16 am
oal fan you know teams will try and stack the box eventually so there will be a time where he’s gonna have to make a play with his arm. defensively how is b-high lookin?
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:15 am
“e_culb wat happen last year against skyline? saw them play last year they were horrible.”
I could give you the long version of what happened but I dont want to sound like I’m making excuses, we were just as horrible and they made the plays in the 2nd half to win.
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Thanks E_Culb, it’s good to be back talking high school sports. Spring sports dont really tickle my fancy… already spoke my peace on Zo and Beam, that’s as dead as Brett Favre right now… Right now I’m wishing I’ve ever heard of at least 3 players on the Alameda-Contra Costa All Star game roster… Guess I’ll go to the game and try to walk away impressed. My early favorite for Offensive MVP… Max Carmona, the QB from Tennyson… The guy is a solid juco qb that played on a pretty bad high school team. If he gets a solid position coach, he’ll be okay. Plus, he’s one of the three I’ve heard of. LOL
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Full disclosure, I’m a closet Mack fan and a wishful alumni… But why all the hatin on what Zo did there… Let’s not forget Mack was NEVER good before he got there and they haven’t been good since!!!! They were a sub 500 team that Silver Bowl year against the Castle(Sorry cousin, had to say it). It’s only a school of like 500 students, half of which are probably girls, and he was able to make chicken salad out of chicken $h!t… Give the man some credit!!!!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 pm
I like the Running Back Green from Cal but Carmona should be the Off. Mvp of the Game with the weapons he has on The South Team….The Defense I don’t know about who is on the Defense tht made some noise during the season??
July 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Correction Kenny Boy Mack won the first ever Silver Bowl if I’m not mistaken. Ike Keefer was the coach I believe.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
The rosters of the All Star game took a hit with most of the players who will be on scholarship to D1 schools dropping out. Which QB from the South will do better Carmona or Gardner? I hear they are both going to Laney this year. I think Rodriguez, the QB from Freedom, will be the North MVP.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 pm
I Just looked at the rosters and this game has only a few SF Chronicle ALL-Metro Players
For The North
Roman Runner Freedom
Nick LaHaye DLS
Morgan Breslin Las Lomas
Joey Levine Cl Vly
Emeka Williams Pitt
For The South
Jeff Ferrier CAL
LeRoy Green CAL(PROJECTED O MVP)
Aaron Horne Castle
Demertirus Moore Berk
Desmond Camper Tennyson
Green will probably get a ton of carries so i figure he will be the offensive MVP.. Not Sure about the Defensive MVP..Lets see who shows up ready to play.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 am
Dang I remember whe there was really no question of who would show up. You counted it an honor to be selected.
July 3rd, 2009 at 4:27 am
Yeah I hear a lot of kids aren’t playing D-1 or not just because they don’t want to. Pretty stupid. Great way to get in shape for next season & compete against a lot of the athletes that you heard or read about all year. Maybe the game will just take a year or 2 before these kids realize how tight it is to be an All-Star.
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 am
It was an honor when I played in it. And there were many Cream of the Crop players in the game that year too(Kirk Morrison, Marviel Underwood and Mike Smith(San Leandro), Gino Vital(Fremont), Wallace Dixon and Rashad Dodd-Masters(De Anza), Will Smith and Sione(Ygnacio Valley), Robert Knox(Foothill;East Bay player of the Year), Chris Dixon(Richmond), Joe McBride(El Cerrito), Connor Banks(St. Marys), etc. The list goes on. Point being, no one was too big for the game. The only exemptions were the guys who signed w/ Fresno State, Pat Hill wasn’t having it. And DJ Williams already committed to 2 other all star games(WHEW). It was fun and I still remember the game. Good luck to the ones playing this year.
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 am
E_Culb, I thought Keefer coached at Oakland High… I know he did during the Wildcat glory days w/ Jayce Goree and Robert Sasser… I think that was around the same time as the Parker Brothers, maybe 94-97??? And I thought Zo won the 1st Silver Bowl championship for MACK? Someone come w/ the facts and settle this… Where’s Josh Suchon when you need him? HAHAHAHA
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Here you go folks, the scores of every Silver Bowl.
1980: Oakland 13, Skyline 8
1981: Skyline 33, Oakland 14
1982: Oakland 18, Skyline 15
1983: Oakland 6, Skyline 2
1984: Skyline 34, Oakland 0
1985: Skyline 13, Oakland 12
1986: Skyline 30, Oakland 15
1987: McClymonds 32, Oakland 7
1988: Skyline 34, Oakland 6
*1989: Skyline 19, Oakland 0
1990: Skyline 35, McClymonds 12
1991: Skyline 20, McClymonds 0
1992: Oakland 24, Skyline 20
1993: Oakland 27, Skyline 14
1994: Skyline 14, Oakland 6
1995: Skyline 7, Fremont 2
1996: Skyline 21, McClymonds 0
1997: Skyline 41, Oakland Tech 6
1998: no winner, game ppd. due to fighting
1999: Skyline 18, Fremont 14
2000: Skyline 27, Fremont 18
2001: McClymonds 46, Skyline 29
2002: Skyline 47, McClymonds 0
2003: Oakland Tech 55, Skyline 47
2004: Skyline 14, McClymonds 13
2005: McClymonds 49, Oakland Tech 7
2006: McClymonds 22, Skyline 8
2007: McClymonds 8, Castlemont 7
2008: Castlemont 13, Fremont 0
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Damn, looks like O-High was doing big things from mid 80′s to the mid 90′s. What the hell has the problem been the past 13 years? I remember Jayce Goree QB he was a baller. O-High has over 1800 kids they should always be pretty good. I think Desmond Gumbs is gonna bring them all the way back. They only lost 2 games on the field last year & that was to Fremont High. Pretty good after 1-9 & 0-10 years.
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Jimmy D, you the man for that… THANKS!!!!
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Roeper, coaches can make a big difference in high school sports. The Jimmy and Joes count too, but in high school Xs and Os count more than at any other level. De La Salle was not producing A LOT of over the top athletes during its unbeaten streak(there were some sprinkled here and there)but Ladoceur knows football and knows how to get the best out of his kids. Not all high school coaches can do that. In the early 80′s, Oakland High was coached by Dan Hagan and from what I’ve heard from his past players, he was a no-nonsense coach that demanded you give 100% EVERY down or you sit next to him. The early to mid 90s, Coach Keefer took over and he was the same way. But ever since he left it’s never been the same. The athletes are definitely there, they just need a coach to put it together.
July 3rd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
I stand corrected! And Kenny Boy Keefer was at Mack before he went to O-High.
July 3rd, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Yeah i coached JV Line under Dan Hagan at O-high in 86′ I was sitting out my soph year injured at Laney And Coach Peters Set me up with the Job. Hagan was hard nosed and he wanted you to coach his way! I remember the Kids used to call him Barney Rubble behind his back!
July 3rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Jimmy,If you are having a slow day,come out and see Castlemont at the Encinal Football camp. Contact drills starts at 4pm. Tuesday 7-7-09
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Has anyone seen Skyline this Summer?
July 4th, 2009 at 12:49 am
yoou guys should start talking about that quarterback they have over at el cerrito…andre williams i think…….the guys has lightning quick speed and his vision and on-field smarts incredible…
July 4th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
u guys should check out that qb they have at el cerrito…i got a chance to see him play last year and he is something special
July 4th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I noticed their kicker who was great but I don’t remember the QB. They are going to need a lot to beat B- High this year.
July 4th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
accalfan, I heard that the starter from last year is playing RB now?
July 4th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Quick question for us sports bloggers… Has the CIF become the NCAA??? Since when did winning “bowl/playoff” games become more important than graduating players and making them better men??? Zo does that with his kids… He graduates them and makes them better men. Who cares how many playoff games he’s won! Let’s focus on how many LIVES he’s changed!
I am with you on that one Kenny Edwards OAL fan!!! Unfortunately, nobody wants to focus on that
July 4th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
yeah i heard that he’s gonna play rb as well….his brother was a talented rb also a few years back…jequerie proctor
July 4th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
accalfan: come on buddy U just lying to get his name out there or what? Was he playing QB or RB?? Where’d you see him play at?
July 4th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
no…he really is a talented player….i saw him play against pinole valley and herculese….he was playing qb
July 4th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
and why would i have to lie
July 4th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Geez I obviously thought you had seen him this year. Do you even know what their team looks like this year? Is he even enrolled at EC?
July 4th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
if he played there last year then why wouldnt he be enrolled now?..their team has a good core of skill position players and their line could use some work…
July 4th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
he was also one of the players ranked among the top 100 in the nation among all non-seniors who were SPARQ tested at one of the various Nike combines during the spring….here is the link:
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/calhisports/0-0-50/Top-Underclass-SPARQ-Testers.html
July 5th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Let’s get the topic back to where the real “Physical football” is played the OAL!!!!
Has anyone seen Skyline this summer?
July 5th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Saw Skyline in May at NFLPD camp. Looked like a JV team. Crazy how things have changed up there. Beam was there you saw size, athletes, atleast 5 or 6 studs. They are going to get stomped this year. Their coached looked pretty cocky too. I hope he knows some serious football.
July 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Thanks Perkin? Did you get a chance to see any other OAL Teams?
July 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Fremont High looks nice. Everyone saying they’re done but they probably had the best looking team there athlete wise. A lot of Samoans & Tongans (every polynesian will be trying to go to Fremont with their all polynesian coaching staff). Not as much speed as last year but big line & nice MLB. Might surpirse people in the OAL.
July 5th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
As far as the OAL being the league where Physical Football played only the OAL teams & fans would know cause they only play each other. I think that the OAL seriously dropped the ball by not coming to NCS this year. League probably has 6 of the most talented teams in the East Bay but never gets it to the Bay Area. They potentially could win the NCS D-I, d-II, D-III, & D-IV championship every year. As it is now teams have trouble getting good teams to schedule them but if theyu were in NCS you couldn’t avoid them. It would make there one game a year against each other really mean something not just a tune up for the 4 team play-off. Could even make the league bigger put Berkeley or even Piedmont & BOD(their schools are in city limits) in the league.
July 5th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
berkeley should be taken out of the accal…they r just too strong for the rest of the accal even though el cerrito gave them a run for their money…as for oal teams potentially contending fot ncs titles…aint gonna happen…dls will be the d-1 winner year after year. and if anyone is to beat them it wont be a team from the oal.
July 5th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Berkeley wouldve been a perfect fit for the HAAL but NCS denied then Admission into that league along wit Alameda
July 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Accalfan… When was the last time DLS played an OAL team? Never…. My point is how come DLS never played MACK or Skyline during their hey day? DLS instead schedule Long Beach Poly once where they almost lost and some school in Washington State,
July 5th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Perkin, “Could even make the league bigger put Berkeley or even Piedmont & BOD(their schools are in city limits) in the league.”
If Berkeley came it wouldn’t be the OAKLAND Athletic League… Piedmont sucks and would NEVER go to MACK or Castlemont for a night game… BOD is a private school and the OAL is all public schools. The OAL is just fine as it is. I personally think the OAL has plenty of individual talent but not a lot of good teams. DLS would for sure win NCS D1, I don’t care who is in that division. Not sure how the other OAL teams would line up in enrollment based divisions. I’m sure MACK would be D5 and destroy those teams. I don’t see the OAL ducking anyone… We seem to play most of the local teams except DLS. Who do you wanna see us play?
July 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Kenny Edwards… I am sure that MACK team with D, Hill N, Ward K, Reed would have gave DLS all they could handle.
July 5th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
oal fan wat year was that? ’04 they lost to valley christian 24-6 if your losing by 3 td’s or ’05 get donuted 31-0 to dorsey you aint beating DE LA!
July 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
bbfan2 wat schools are talkin bout that dont graduate players but happen to win a playoff a game from time 2 time?
July 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
it’s too bad the oal is not ncs. unless the top teams in da oal can get non-league games with some of the top teams from other leagues.other than that will never know. wat year was beams best team at skyline?
July 5th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
oal fan…if de la salle played a school from the oal, how will it look in their bid to got to a state title game, not so good…anyway they will trounce any team from the oal and accal…we saw that against berkeley..
July 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Kenny??? Castor Vallley, BOD are in the Hayward league its still the HAAL. You should say we want Berkeley in our league cause they’re a big ass school with raw athletes that is a natural rival to O-high, Tech & Mack & they’ll make our league that much better. I want to see the OAL play SL, El Cerrito, BOD, Hayward any good team thats close. Thank God Steve Alameda from Pinole Valley will play the OAL but the bottom line is no team wants to schedule the OAL cause it doesn’t get you no where play-off wise. OAL use to be considered a quality win when Beam was playing Foothill, Logan, ST. Francis, Serra, De La Salle, Dorsey, now there isn’t that one team in the league that really makes the OAL legitimate. In 2007 the OAL went 3-27 in the non-league.
July 5th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Bill Johnson, you took the words right out of my mouth… That Valley Christian game was against Jeff Schweigert and I believe Steve Mariucci’s son at QB. Umm, I believe De La Salle played Skyline in 1999(Omar Nazel, Dominique Shaw, etc.) and the Titans were blanked if I’m not mistaken. I’m an OAL FANATIC and there is NO WAY any OAL football team is beating DLS while Ladoceur is there. Our ONLY shot at DLS is basketball.
July 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Perkin, it’s the Hayward AREA Athletic League… It’s not the Oakland AREA Athletic League, it’s the Oakland Athletic League… We(I) only want Oakland Public Schools, too much tradition/pride to break up. I don’t know if you played in the OAL or not, but most people that have will say that half the fun of the OAL is playing against the same guys you played with/against from Dynamites/Saints/Warriors/Babe Ruth/ONBL/AAU… That would all be lost if we added teams from outside the city. Bishop O’Dowd is a private school that can get kids from anywhere, so that wouldn’t be fair. Like I said, the OAL is fine the way it is. Football might be down in the OAL right now, but it cycles and we’ll reload… Basketball wise, it would not make sense to expand the league. And let’s be honest… When Beam was on the hill the OAL was a top notch league… Beam just had a top notch team. It was Skyline and the also rans… Basketball has always been and will always be where the OAL makes its name. Baseball could do better too. The OAL used to be pretty formidable on the diamond too, but that seems to not be the case anymore. It all starts at Greenman Field. We need the OG coaches to come back.
July 5th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Kenny Edwards… I agree with most of your comments up until now . I hope there are not any 8th graders entering high school in the Oakland Unified School district reading this blog.. Never beating DLS. Give me a break, I don’t care how good of a coach Ladoceur any team can be beat. The OAL is on the rise just watch what happens in the pre-season with all of the OAL schools.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:16 am
OAL FAN, who’s the OAL playing? Berkeley dropped Castlemont (kinda cowardly they should get their home game) because that win did nothing for them D-I play-off wise. Castlemont’s best game is against Concord their also playing St. Elizabeth. O-High playing San Ramon & I hear that San Ramon feels like they’re gonna stomp them. O-High is also playing Campolindo should beat them they graduated their whole team. Fremont has 3 quality games Pittsburg, Lincoln Stockton & Logan( they should handle Logan). Thats it. Skyline playing BOD BOD is gonna stomp them. The OAL is gonna get a win against a down Logan & a down Campolindo maybe Lincoln Stockton but who’s knows how good Lincoln will be this year. WOW. The Silver Bowl champion best game is against Concord who they couldn’t beat last year. I’m sure that Pinole Valley will play Tech again but they haven’t beat them in 7 years. 7 quality games out of 30 that the OAL will probably go 2-5 or 3-4 at best & it ain’t like the OAL is going undefeated in the other 23 games.
The OAL will never get quality games 3 or 4 per team as long as they stay their own section. Come on buddy no team in Norther Cali has beat De La in the last 17 years. Keep it real. The best OAL team in the last 17 years wouldn’t beat the worse De La SAlle team in the last 17 years.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:51 am
DLS gets a lot of credit for not losing in nor cal 17 years but who cares NorCal football is JUNIOR VARSITY FOOTBALL compared to the big dog states Texas,Ohio,FLA…Also DLS needs to play PUBLIC powers if thy call themselves playing national powers …St Thomas Aquinas is gonna whopp De La Salles ass.
July 6th, 2009 at 1:05 am
Wow now we’re JV football? How many times has De La Salle won the National Chamipionship Jerk-off I know they won one in 2007?
July 6th, 2009 at 3:11 am
Yeah Cash Flow. We are definitely not JV Football. We have teams in the area that are nationally ranked. WCAL is considered one of the toughest leagues in the state and nation. The NCS itself considered one of the toughest sections. Read about it anywhere. You are a quality team if you win in Florida, Texas, Ohio or … California. I’m not saying other states don’t play quality ball. But we certainly do.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Hey Roper, is San Ramon Down too this year? Will the OAL get the credit if O-high beats San Ramon? Take a look at Castlemont schedule it is pretty tough. What happens if Fremont beats Pitt or if Skyline beats BOD… When dose the OAL get Respect???
July 6th, 2009 at 7:04 am
OAL Fan, I hope no 8th graders are reading this blog either, but the truth is the truth. I’ve always said that if the OAL combined into two or three schools instead of six then it would be the best league in football and basketball. But leaving it at six schools spreads out the top talent. It’s like MLB with all of its expansion… It would take a miracle for an OAL team to beat DLS. I just don’t see it happening.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:10 am
Cash Flow, you are trippin dude. NCS is junior varsity???? Are you serious or trying to get a rise out of us? LOL De La Salle beat the top team from Louisianna, they beat the top team from Hawaii, they beat Poly numerous times(home and away), they beat a top team from Ohio, and now they’re gonna beat St. Thomas Aquinas. And didn’t they beat St. John Bosco last year, or did they lose? Now don’t get me wrong, I dislike(hate is the word I wanted to use) DLS as much as any other Oakland native, but here on the blog I stick to the truth. DLS football is GOOD! I don’t think they’ve lost to a NorCal team since Regan Upshaw was at Pitt… That’s a looooonnnnnnggggggg time.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:17 am
DLS LOST to Don Bosco.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:18 am
oal fan early prediction just for you srv 31 – o-high 6.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:38 am
OAL FAN: San Ramon may not be down in talent but they’re transitioning over to a new head coach. Just pointing it out. I will admit that there are quality teams in the OAL and that Kenny Edwards is right, if the talent in the area wasn’t spread out so thin it would make the league a powerhouse. But, giving them their due respect isn’t the same as declaring them as some kind of force when they’re not. Fact of the matter is that Castlemont beat a 9-3 Salesian team, McClymonds beat a 6-3 Pinole Valley team and Fremont beat a 8-5 St. Elizabeth team. Those are good wins. However, outside of league play last year, the OAL beat 3 out of 16 teams with better than a .500 record (tying Concord). Want respect? Earn it. And if you get it. How much is enough?
July 6th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Y is everybody counting us out to win the Oal. We have the best player and best OB in the league. Damonte Horton and Charles Cobb. We had five preseason cream of the crop players. Just like my OAL Back to back Silver bowl championships team, we have two things in common? Coach Ike Keifer Philosophy and Oakland Dynamite Players.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:24 am
It was not a fluke we won last year. OUr boys are used to winning from Dynamites. Just like when i played at O-High. Me jayce, KP, sass, allof us played Babe Ruth together and before we got to high school won 5 state championships for the Dynamites
July 6th, 2009 at 11:27 am
De La Played Skyline in 97 and beat them 19-0.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:35 am
coach murph no doubt you got players at the skill positions but games are won in da trenches. how is your line play? coach murph i love your non-league if you beat srv or campo it will silence some of the critics. plus fremont did sweep you guys!
July 6th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Powder Puff Football….My nephew plays at Miami Northwestern and DLS would go 0-10 in ther league
July 6th, 2009 at 11:54 am
coach murph you guys are turning it around but you only beat castlemont last year the rest were sub-.500 teams. you got to at least beat either srv or campo don’t get swept!
July 6th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Yes they did sweep us. I am just saying how can they cout us out. You are right. Games are won in the trenches. Our line will be good. But we beat castlemont. Fremont has had our number the past couple of years. THats why we put them on the schedule to silence some of the critics.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
I agree wit you. I knew we would win last year. I coached Cobb, Horton and all those guys since Dynamites. They are used to winning. Our schedule last year was not that good. chavez was good. but 9-2 is 9-2, now we have our confidence. Thats the key. This team reminds me of when i was at O-high under Kiefer
July 6th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Castlemonts playing Saleasian fake team who’s made up his own league cause he’s scared to play an Encinal or St.Pat or Piedmont when they’re good. Concord so so team. I think got 2 more wins last year when they got Nick PIca transfered in. St. Liz 170 kids but I heard that Barnes couldn’t find another game & will not have mercy on them look for a blow out. Rancho Cotate good team last year but how much clout will that carry. Eureka who know’s. They should be playing SL, BOD, Foothill, Cal HI, Las Lomas, 3 or 4 of these local teams. These teams won’t schedule the OAL as long as its their own section. Now if Castle won D-II NCS they would get all the top games they want but I hear they have trouble gettin teams to play them.
That guy Dez Camper said that O-high was having trouble at a scrimmage with Tennyson without Tennyson’s top RB. I saw Tennyson at Skyline camp they looked terrible. Coach Bowers from SL was there the last day watching them run plays & I swear he was laughing them. If O-high is having trouble with them they’re not doing nothing.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
We scored like 6 offensive touchdowns and three defensive touchdowns against tennyson, and when they move the ball on us, our jv team was playing against them
July 6th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
cash flow: why don’t you move there. The new Skyline Coach got the job based on Coaching at that school so lets se how he puts it down. I think he goes 3-7 probably 2-8 with one win in the OAL.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
we need to get some basketball talks now… preseason previews… haal, oal etc…. lets start… what do you think about mack next year
July 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
For Basketball in the HAAL……San Leandro has the best player in the HAAL now a Pirate…Hameed Ali is now at SL leaving Tennyson….CV has some guys…..Hayward,SLZ,Arroyo,Mt Eden,Moreau and Tennyson will all be below par….BOD has a great group comin back.
Preseason
1.San Leandro
2.Bishop O’Dowd
3.Castro Valley
4.San Lorenzo
5.Hayward
6.Moreau
7.Mt.Eden
8.Tennyson
9.Arroyo
MVP Canidate:Hameed Ali SL
Bobbit CV…Ashley BOD
Playoff Teams:SL,CV,BOD,Hayward
July 6th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
LOL @ Basketball… plz, the only sport that matters is starting in the fall.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Just like last year the bottom five or six in the haal are a joke and cannot and will not compete, as for the ebal it besides De la it is a joke eastbay basketball is way way down as a whole the worst it has been in twenty-five years especially D-1 Oal will have maybe two quality teams
July 6th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
james i totally agree with you
July 7th, 2009 at 5:16 am
Hey man, I am so tired of cats getting upset with me because I give my opinion. So if ZO reads this message you gonna have to tell me what I said that was so wrong to where you say I’m suspect. I did not say anything bad about you, why would I do that. My comment was based on Laney having a problem getting kids to attend once you took over. I never said you could not coach, nor did I say you would not do a good job, all I said was that it would be an adjustment for you and ur staff, and that I would love to see you stay at berkeley and build there, so come on don’t start trippin on me. And secondly I am not worried about being on ur level, HAVING CERTAIN CREDENTIALS or anything like that, I’M ME AND I’M NOT COMPETING WITH YOU OR ANYONE ELSE!This is just a blog, we should not be taking things all personal like this, get real!Today was my first time getting back on here in a few weeks so please lets not even have an attack Green moment!You know I respect you as a coach and all that so come on man, don’t you start trippin on me too! AS YOU SAID YOU KNOW I’M GOING TO TALK UP MY JC,WHY WOULD I NOT? BUT YOU REALLY TOOK THAT WHOLE THING WHICH WAS ABOUT 2 OR 3 WEEKS AGO WAY OVER THE TOP. AND WHY YOU ONLY SAYING SOMETHING TO ME, WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? WE NEED TO HAVE A REFOCUS OR SOMETHING, I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE, BUT IF I WANT TO BLOG I DEFINTIELEY HAVE THAT RIGHT, AND I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOU, SO WHY ARE YOU TRIPPIN! BE COOL BRO!!!!!
July 7th, 2009 at 5:22 am
JUST DO YOUR THING AS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ZO, AND WHEN I CALL YOU, YOU BETTER NOT BE TRIPPIN DUDE! I’M JUST GOING TO BE QUIET FROM NOW ON AND GET UP OUT OF THIS COACHING THANG CUZ IT’S DANGEROUS. I’M DONE COACHING!
July 7th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
I saw Fremont and Castlemont. I believe the OAL is going to do very well in the pre-season.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Hey Green, How are you going to quit on the Kids? I know you do not teach your players to quit when things get tough. Just because Zo said that you are not qualified to comment on his credentials dose not mean that you should stop coaching. Prove him wrong!
July 8th, 2009 at 4:13 am
Naw I was just messing around bro, I talked to Zo today, I wasnt tripping, I was just surprised at his reaction, and we worked it out, he took what I said the wrong way, and he knew that so it wasn’t nothing. He has been a bit upset about people speaking on him, and I totally understood that! but Man you know I can’t stop coaching! I was being a bit sarcastic!
July 8th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Everyone’s always giving the private school’s grief about being able to get players, but I just read some kid from Tennyson is now at San Leandro, both being public schools, how does that happen? Did the kid move, even if he did, doesn’t he have to wait a year? Just curious. I swear no more bb if someone can answer that question.
July 8th, 2009 at 10:07 am
bbfan2 don’t know how that happen’d but can’t blame da kid for gettin out of that program if you can call tennyson a program.
July 8th, 2009 at 10:19 am
billjohnson,
I agree with a kid wanting to get out of a horrible program, it’s no different than a kid going to private school to get a better education, right? It just seems everyone always attibutes any private school success to “recruiting” when in fact, the public school coaches may or may not do the same thing, but it’s okay? Now the kids on the Tennyson team have an even worse team, right? Seems wrong, but I am learning how highschool sports works, I guess.
July 8th, 2009 at 10:33 am
bbfan2 maybe it’s time for a coaching change at tennyson cuz they seem to lose a player or 2 every year. can’t blame the kid just wants a chance to compete for a league title & a chance at ncs playoffs. we know that aint possible at tennyson!
July 8th, 2009 at 10:42 am
talk to a coach from alameda high he was real confident that they would win the accal this year. he said they did real good against b-high at the laney passing league tournament. they drove the field relatively easily throw’n slants & b-high had trouble with there combo routes. they claim there runnig back is as good as galvin.
July 8th, 2009 at 10:47 am
I definitely don’t blame the kid, especially if he wants to get a look from colleges. Still feel bad for the players left behind.
July 8th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Coach Murphy, good enough for me. Scrimmages aren’t so much about TD’s though they’re about exectuing on O being in the right place on D and geting all your guys experience. A game is so much more. If you guys know you’d handle them in a game then thats all you need to know. If coaches are going to camps/scrimmages/Passing Leagues playing all their starters just trying to win a scrimmage so they can say that they won a scrimmage then their whole team doesn’t get better. Only games that matter start in September. Everthing until then is just a means to win game one.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
the most important thing is how your lineman are playing.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Guru-Black,As long as you’ve been around Football you know that all the completed passes in a passing league don’t mean much. Lets see how they do with a pass rush comin’ at em’.
July 8th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
I know I’m a little late on this, but I believe De La Salle played Skyline 4 times. The closest game was 28-0. JimmyD, there used to be a file with every game of the DLS streak in sptprep and sports1 that would have all the results of the Skyline games. Any chance it’s still alive?
Oh and CashFlow, Long Beach Poly drilled Northwestern 29-7 IN MIAMI last year. There is no way that DLS goes 0-10 in that league. I don’t care what anyone says about DLS now, but those teams from like 99-03 or so (DJ, Simon, Williams, Tucker, Landri, Gutierrez, Drew et al) were the best in the country. Period.
July 8th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
dez i like that.. and sanleandro will be good and win league.. but league mvp hameed ali?? he is in the top 5 conversation though. its either bobbit, ashley, longrus, ali and i think daniel almonte. he is finally on the san leandro team. and he didnt transfer so they will be even better. daniel almonte might be my choice, the sleeper of the year for the haal
July 8th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
well, the haal will point blank suck next year. O dowd will be decent with ashley and capiti, and cv is ok. ALso san leandro is decent with hameed ali, nick armas, daniel almonte, jermaine gaines but still fairly weak league next year.. my league mvp will be nick capiti and two behind him should be hameed ali and daniel almonte or bobbit from cv.
July 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Yes i agree, the haal will be terrible except o dowd sl and cv O’dowd should win it sl and cv are good but not very good for that league in comparison to the last ten years they are just average and the ebal without Dls would be terrible as well Dls will win all league games by 25+ pts very below average basketball for the eastbay next year especially D-1 very weak from top to bottom
July 8th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Man Alameda High is a big joke! If there coach really said that about berkeley and the accal then they are crazy. I seen that team and they didnt have much but a tall WR that cant catch and maybe 2 okay backs. Berkeley looks okay but passing league means nothing to them because they dont even pass the ball.
July 8th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
I seen the whole play OAL this summer and if the season started now then i see it in this order.
1 Fremont
2/3 O-High
2/3 Castlemont
4 Mack
5 Tech
6 Skyline
July 9th, 2009 at 7:51 am
ManDown, I don’t know O-High got some nice skill position athletes I haven’t seen Fremont High in action yet but at the Skyline Camp they had no real great skill athletes. Nice Line, TE, & MLB though.
July 9th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Who has the best tail back in the OAL
July 9th, 2009 at 10:14 am
does anyone know wat piedmont’s gonna run this year?
July 9th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
yep bhouse i agree.. but i dont think o dowd will win… because hameed ali transfered to san leandro and brings a solid pg. Also a nationally ranked sophmore devin moss who might play varsity. look him up… but they also have nick armas, of course daniel almonte and also some other young talent. Sl has to use its young talent for once.
July 9th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
If it’s out of Fremont and Oakland High, I’m taking the Wildcats all the way. Haven’t seen any teams though. Please fellas, don’t put much stock into passing league… It has NO bearing on what’ll happen in a real game. That’s like trying to compare basketball teams on a slam dunk contest.
July 9th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Has anyone seen Mack?
July 9th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Hey I have a few things to add, first of all tennyson does not have a horrible program, I think Terry Smith does a great job there. One of the things you have to rememeber is that they have to deal with the kids they get and do the best they can do in a very competitive league. In the 07-08 season the beat hayward that year, and Castro valley for the first time in a long time and went 5-5 their best season in about 20 years or so, so it takes time to build up a program, look how long it has taken Castlemont to do something in the OAL, they used to be an automatic win. O-high was the same way for a good amount of years, having a decent preseason here and there. Now they have some good athletes and great asst coaches who know the game and know how to teach it. Fremont was a joke the last few years too unitl last season they matured and had a great season, changed the offense and made it work.
And I agree that passing league and even full contact scrimmages don’t count for anything, alot of teams don’t have all there players, some play bball and do the AAU stuff,some play baseball and do summer league for that as well, some guys work, so you never know if ur really going against a teams best. and most teams are very vanilla just looking to work on the fundamentals of game play recognition, they may run the same 3 plays over again trying to get perfect plays accomplished, so if anyone wants to boats about how they do in full contact scrimmages then they have to get real about the season. And thats not saying my boy coach murph does not have the right to pump up his team and believe in wehat they can do. The kids there expect to win and they have waited for a long time. At the same time full contact scrimmages don’t mean that much in my opinion.
July 9th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Personally I think O-high’s Earl Harris will be one of the best RB’s in the OAL this year, and Tech’s RB is a great hard runner, not sure of his name. Earl has come a long way and I think he is ready to step up and do what needs to be done! Next question,who has the best WR in the OAL. I say Deandre Cambpell from Tech, just committed to Washington Huskies.
July 9th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
I have only seen Mack at the Laney passing league, they will be cool I’m sure but how good, I don’t know!
July 9th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
biggreen put down the green! terry smith does a great job?! yeah ’07 he went 5-5 he beat 1-9 mission s.j, 0-10 san lorenzo,beat 2-8 hayward by 1 & 5-5 castro valley. lost 31-0 to washington fremont but got forfeit win. the rest of the games they got blown out!
July 9th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
good to see tennyson stepped up there non-league with 4-5-1 overfelt, 1-9 american & come on you know he aint gonna stop playin 1-9 mission san jose. step it up terry smith!
July 10th, 2009 at 5:59 am
Thanks Green, I think that “Mack’s” new coach will turn it around over there. He did a great job at Castlemont and from what I hear he as brought back the fire. He was part of Zo’s Silver Bowl Championship staff.
July 10th, 2009 at 8:01 am
McCauley seems like a good coach but wasn’t he at O-high a year before last after Thorton? WHat the hell happend there 0-10.
July 10th, 2009 at 8:31 am
DLS beat Oakland Hi in 1983 (21-12) and 1984 (31-14).
DLS lost to Skyline in 1984 (22-21)
DLS beat Skyline in 1985 (42-18), 1996 (28-0), 1998 (41-7), 1999 (47-0)
July 10th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Earl Harris is the will be the Best Running Back in the league this year. Norris from Skyline is Pretty good, If Ryan murphy from tech plays RB he will be one of the best. Castle has a good young back from Dynamites in McFadden, Fremont has some good backs. Mack has a good Running back. The Oal is a running backs league, but Hands down Earl Harris. He has the experience and he had a great game against the Number one Defense in the OAL Last year in castlemont.
As Far as WR, Damonte HOrton Hands Down. Campbell from Tech is good too. The OAL always has ballers and i feel we dont get enough credit. This is going to be a hella of a season for OAL football.
As Far as McCauley, he is a good coach and he knows his stuff. We went 0-10 that year due to young and inexperienced players. Horton, Cobb, Ryan and all those guys were sophmores and thats y we were good last year. We took our lumps the year before and the kids learned alot. McCauley will do a great job wit mack.We were in every game that 0-10 season and i feel we should at least won six games. Without that season, we would not be where we are at now
July 10th, 2009 at 10:13 am
The Rumor at James Logan Football Camp is tht Castlemont Running Back McFadden is the little brother of Darren McFadden…I believe it is true because Castle was fitted in Raider Gear
July 10th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Coach Omarri I believe you are right… A team is only as good as it players. Taking away Kobe and Jordan means that Phil Jackson in LA or Chicago dosen’t win any championships! I don’t care how good a coach is, if you don’t have the players you don’t win..
July 10th, 2009 at 11:05 am
I dont think that is True. McFadden played for Dynamites and Alameda Pirates. We would have known that by now. He is a good young back tho.
July 10th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Coach Omarri, can we get an unbiased preseason OAL football prediction?
July 10th, 2009 at 11:15 am
You are right OAL Fan. You have to have the players. Look at all the players around the Bay Area. Most of the top players came from Dynamites. Dynamites program has produced some of the best players in the area to name of few:
Ricky Galvin RB, Dynamites/Cougars B-High
Logan Murdock QB B-high
Charles Cobb QB o-high
Damonte Horton WR/CB o-High
Aaron Horne WR/CB Castle
Dave Douglas RB/SS Liz
Jamar SMith RB/CB b-High
Chris Little DB/WR Castle
Tahoe Brothers who went to Fremont
Edward Davis Rb/DB O-high
July 10th, 2009 at 11:16 am
The players mentioned, made the programs better, on top of good coaching
July 10th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Coach Omarri, are you afraid to give a prediction???
July 10th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
coach murph if the oal wants credit it has go get it in the non-league. o-high has to beat either srv or campo, castle has concord, ranco cotate. fremont has 2 atleast be competitve against pitt & logan. outta those 6 games i hope the oal can go .500 if not don’t know if you’ll get the credit you seek.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
As far as Best OAL Running Back its going to come down to Oakland’s Earl Harris or Tech’s Ryan Murphy if he plays Running Back a good amount of time.
Best Wide Receiver Mr.Horton also one of the best CB’S in the East Bay or Tech’s Deandre Cambpell can’t wait to the game WSU vs UW..Also Mack’s WR.
Now with Coach McCauley like Murph said He is a good coach…Old school and knows the game..The year he was at Oakland high the 0-10 did not show what really was going on..Young team with 5 10th graders starting on O and D…Along with changing a team into a program…Coach McCauley will get Mack going…
July 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
I’m just happy O-High has some alumni back coaching… Thanks Omarri, I tried to coax Jayce a little bit back in the day but he didnt budge. If I could find a job w/ a flexible schedule I’d be right there in the trenches. I heard that was McFadden’s little brother too… but if he was around before last year then I’m sure it’s not. And as much as I LOVE the OAL, I agree w/ BillJohnson that we HAVE to get some quality wins against non-conference teams. We do have plenty of individual talent… We just don’t have many(if any) top notch teams.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Here’s a question… Since the OAL isnt part of the NCS… What would it take to setup a TransBay Championship in football like there is for baseball/soccer? And who would dominate the series? My answer is Oakland b/c we destroyed SF in the brief Oakland/San Francisco All-Star game… But I wanna hear what you guys think
July 10th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Stop lying you would not coach!!! LOL
July 10th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Kenny Edwards, Oakland would when the series.. When we had the series I think we won every time. I would love to see an East Bay South Bay Series.
July 10th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
I will just chime in on this point, I’ve been laughing at reading all the “get Mack going” comments, a lot of making it seem like stuff wasnt moving forward. I’ll just say this you say O-high had 5 10th graders playing O and D try playing with 4 10th graders starting and another 10 players that never played a down of varsity football and a team of 25 total players. Not an excuse just the facts, but I will I am very proud of my time at Mack and every kid I coached they never quit playing for me and in the OAL games (except Castlemont) we were there until the end. So when you say “get it going” you sound like your saying resurrect something that was dead, and that it wasnt. Did you expect four Silver Bowls in a row? That was only done once! But I digress I hope I’m like Matt Dougherty at UNC the buffer in between Dean Smith (and Gunther) and Roy Williams I will always go down as the goat but thats fine I got big enough shoulders to carry that title. A lot of good work went on these past two years, wish I could have seen it through. But I hope Maculley can “get it going” as many of you have said! I’m still a Mack Warriors through and through and if ANYBODY that reads these blogs regularly knows I bleed orange and black!
P.S.- Coach Carter (and i know you read these) you where right it was not as easy as I thought!!
July 10th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
E_Culb, You did a great job at Mack! Please don’t take my earlier comment the wrong way. I was only talking about how I thought McCulley is a good coach.
You will always have my respect. I love reading you blogs, don’t let these “haters” get you down. You are a WINNER… “MACK FAMILY” !!!!!
July 10th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
I would too coach!!!! LOL And E_Culb, you’re no Matt Dougherty(he got a job somewhere else)… You’re more like Steve Lavin and this is your ESPN… See you in the booth! HAHAHAHA
I pose another question… Who’s the best OAL Football player of ALL-Time? Not who had the best pro career or who was drafted the highest… In high school, who is the best of all time?
July 10th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
CIF does not allow extra postseason games now that there are bowl games. That’s why there was only one TransBay game.
July 10th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
E_Culb…You you took that the wrong way…When I said “get things going” I was speaking as picking up on the work you put in E… You are a good coach and I saw everything you said about kids not quiting and young kids along with first timers trust me I know…E_Culb I was shocked when I was told you stepped down because I know the work you put in…
We both know its more about help these young men grow and become men and W’s and L’s don’t always show that…We all know you bleed orange and black..And me a hater never that lol…
And no your not Matt Dougherty like Ken said Steve Lavin lol.
July 10th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Maybe I did take it wrong. It’s just that getting something going sounds like the something was broke down that’s all, no worries or hard feelings. Steve Lavin that’s classic!!!!!!!!! And I guess your right because I have turned down offers like Lavin and I am trying to get into the Blog game! LOL
July 10th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
who are the players to watch in the accal?
July 10th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
RICKY GALVIN… Former OAL Mack player. He followed Zo to shhh. I mean, he moved to Berkeley.
July 11th, 2009 at 11:55 am
I cant understand why everyone is jumping the gun between laney and ccc, coach carter is the head coach at bhigh for 2009. and no one is giving any respect to the staff at ccc for 2009.if you call yourself a coach,or a person in the know, respect the players in the programs these coachs have to teach and perpare.if those of you who feel the Haal is the place to be, why fight the relignment of berkeley into th haal.
Attn: coach omari, there are some other impact players you coach on b-high varsity that played on the Dynamites don’t forget them.
July 11th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
has anyone seen o’dowd this summer? must have high expectations with senior back mario brown back 4 another season.
July 11th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
i think peronon would retire if berkeley came 2 the haal. no matter what though i feel berkeley & san leandro should get it on every year.
July 11th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
we all know that ricky galvin is a player to watch, but who are the others?
July 11th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
andre williams rb from el cerrito.
July 11th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Jacketfan: The Berkeley proposal for the HAAL was fought tooth and nail, you are correct. But, it wasn’t because we were scared. At the time, the HAAL was an 8 team league! Mt. Eden, Hayward, Tennyson, Moreau, San Leandro, San Lorenzo, Castro Valley, and O’Dowd. Now, I do understand that Moreau Catholic no longer competes in the HAAL in football, but that was undetermined at the time and I’ve been informed they’ve actually been reconsidering the transfer and are due back for the upcoming reallignment. Also, the proposal was to add not just Berkeley to the HAAL but also Alameda High. From there, the committee suggested a 10 team league with two 5 team divisions. You would play all 4 opposing teams in your division and then 3 from the other division in rotating years. 7 league games and 3 out of league. That kind of arrangement would have messed up league titles, home and home contracts, further scrutinized NCS playoff contention, compromised out of league game scheduling, etc. It was just asking too much of our schools in order to let two teams in.
July 11th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Mack is Back!!!
July 11th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
I highly disagree if berkeley came to the HAAL they would just automatically be in the running with SL last time I checked football wasn’t written in stone..I mean I can speak on this because we played berkeley at the Cal camp and they didn’t score nt one touchdown and take in consideration they had a renegade team with rickey galvin,mario brown,and damonte horton at running back…in my opinion berkeley high is over rated but do have bright spots and good players not gonna knock’em tho
July 12th, 2009 at 8:22 am
I predict the Oal will finish above 500 in the preseason. I know people say scrimmages and passing league does not matter, but you guys should of seen marin catholic and serra yesterday when they could not move the ball against us. We shut them down and they could not stop the offense. I apologize Jacket fan, there are some other player ive coached on Dynamites who made impacts for that Berkeley team and i have not forgot them. Just mentioned the ones i could remember off hand.
Bill johnson, you are absolutely correct, if the league wants the respect we havet to compete against the top teams in the area.
July 12th, 2009 at 8:24 am
I predict the Oal will finish above 500 in the preseason. I know people say scrimmages and passing league does not matter, but you guys should of seen marin catholic and serra yesterday when they could not move the ball against us. We shut them down and they could not stop the offense.
Bill johnson, you are absolutely correct, if the league wants the respect we havet to compete against the top teams in the area.
July 12th, 2009 at 8:27 am
I apoligize, Jacket fan, there are some other players on that berkeley team that ive coached on dynamites that made a huge impact on that berkeley team.
July 12th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Kenny Edwards,
The transbay series would suck. The OAL needs to be a NCS team. Shit they could keep their league. Or if they get split then they should be mandated to play eachother in the non-league. I mean they send four teams to their playoffs to compete for the silver bowl. Why not get into the NCS Im sure 2or 3 OAL teams with winning records would make NCS playoffs anyway. If NCS tries any funny buisness then leave NCS.
July 12th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Oakland and Castlemont will meet up in the Silver Bowl.
July 12th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Fremont and Castle in Silver Bowl
July 12th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
trust me it will be out of fremont and ohigh…
July 12th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
You don’t just join and leave NCS whenever you want. The main reason the OAL was opposed to joining was because of their rich history, if I’m not mistaken. I can’t say I blame them. Going from always having Oakland schools playing against each other in a playoff system and a Silver Bowl game to competing for a possibility in the playoffs is asking a lot of a league.
July 12th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
HAAL Fan, thats a cowardly ass attitude. OAL bring your show to the Bay! I’m hearing big things about Castlemont, O-high, & Fremont High. But you’re telling me that they have to prove it before week 6? Thats dumb as f**k. Every good team should be playing their best football by week 11. How big would it be for the OAL if in D-II O-High vs Fremont High for the NCS cahmpionship & in D-III Castlemont won it? Your saying in D-II the OAL has the best team for 1401-1975 enrollment out of 25 schools & in D-III 701-1400 enrollment out of 32 schools.
That covers what Alameda, Contra Costa, Solano, Humbolt, Sonoma COUNTIES. That has to be respected. Not we are the champions of the town of Oakland & we played so & so school week 1,2,3,4,5 & beat them so we’re top in the area.
July 12th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Omarri, you’re a fellow Wildcat and Oakland Babe Ruth legend so I love you(although I never met you)… But you HAVE to stop getting juiced about these passing league games. Yes, be excited about your team playing well and having success. I, more than anyone, want to see O-High play well. Trust me… The spring/summer seasons can build tons of confidence for your team… But let’s be honest Marin Catholic runs the ball 99.9% of the time… I can’t speak on Serra, don’t know much about them other than Barry Bonds and Tom Brady. I believe there coach is Steve Walsh… or something Walsh… He came from De La Salle which means he probably runs the veer, thus doesnt place a huge emphasis on the passing game. I was a passing league All-American back in the day, but you put me w/ no running back and a porous offensive line and I looked like I should’ve been the water boy. What time you guys practice, I want to come see my alma mater in person.
July 12th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
The Camp, not sure how I feel about the OAL joining NCS. There are pros and cons to both sides of the argument. If I had to vote today, I would vote to stay our own section. Joining NCS would affect other sports besides football and I definitely am against joining NCS in basketball. I do like the idea of joining NCS for baseball… In fact, when I was at Oakland High I always wished we were a part of NCS for baseball. The allure of the Transbay Series never really tickled my fancy. Seeing as there isn’t a “real” State Tourney(like bball) I dont have an issue with keeping the OAL as is for now. We have our own section champ in football just like NCS, CCS, etc.
July 12th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
My preseason prediction is Oakland High vs. Castlemont in the Silver Bowl(WOW, had someone said that when I was in high school they would have been stoned)LOL… Saw Fremont twice last year and never could grasp how they made it to the Silver Bowl(they ran the SAME play on offense EVERY PLAY!!!!)… From what I remember Castle has a lot coming back this year and I like their coaching staff. That’s my pick and I’m sticking to it. Come on Wildcats, don’t let me down…
July 12th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Perkin: I never said it was the right decision, I just said that that was why it went the way it did. Serra is coached by Patrick Walsh. He was the running back from De La Salle and was the starter and captain of the first team to begin “The Streak”. I can’t speak much of his strategy but I do know he uses his athletes in whichever offense benefits them.
July 12th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I keep hearing all this talk about O-High Fremont and Castlemont. What about MACK?
July 12th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
What about MACK???? Do they have anything worth talking about other than a new weight room and scoreboard?
July 12th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Curtis Mculley and Coach Pooh have been the true legacy of “Zo” and the silver bowls and I feel that they will bring MACK back to where the had that fire!
July 12th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
They also have a huge offensive line and a good with lot of guys returning.
July 12th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
They return starting QB (who I believe is the best in the league) Rob Brigham, 3 of 5 olineman and one of the top recruits in 2011 Wendell Taiese 6’6 300+, first team Wr Mikal Hardy, and RB Denzell Johnson. Oh trust me Mack got some heat comming back, (THAT’S WHY I HATE I HAD TO STEP DOWN!!!!) They will be right there in the end. And dont sleep on Tech they also played a VERY young team last year with some BIG young WR’s and lineman.
July 12th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Tech??? I think Tech might bring up the rear… It is either Tech or Skyline to take last place.
July 13th, 2009 at 5:08 am
Tech mark my words!
July 13th, 2009 at 8:40 am
Mr. Kenny Edwards i am not speaking about passing league, We played Serra and Marin Catholic in full contact scrimmage and gave them the business. We practice at 4 o clock, come check us out. Our defense shut them down, and i have it on tape if you dont believe it “Film Dont Lie” We moved the ball at will
July 13th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Marin Catholic, played in the NCS finals last year against Encinal and Serra went into OT wit DE la. Patrick Walsh is their coach, and he is an Ex De LA star. They could not match our speed. Yea it does not count but it was fully padded scrimmage and they could not see us. I believe we can compete wit anybody. E Culb is right, Mack got some heat. OAL Football will be good this season. Marin Catholic coach afterwords was like wow, you guys have a good team. We are very confident right now and we WILL be hard to beat.
July 13th, 2009 at 8:51 am
The OAL will be good. Mack Has Pooh and McCauley coaching. So i know mack will be ready, Big rob the QB already has a silver bowl ring. Tech has heat too, big fred on the line, those twins, Campbell ar WR and Stud Ryan Murphy. Fremont is good, my Laney Teammate Samu is the coach adn they are physical. Skyline is coached by Will Blackwell, Kizzy, and Kahil Jones. So they will compete. Castlemont is defending champs and had #1 defense in the Bay, and we got some heat coming back too. So it will be interesting
July 13th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Whats so good about Serra
July 13th, 2009 at 9:23 am
What is Serra’s base offense? I hear they got a cool RB.
July 13th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Is the Alameda County Allstar Team going to win. 1997 we won. Contra Costa had Antwon Lacey, Lamont Thompson, De La RB, Ken Simonton and they were crushed. We had 2Bob, Dante Marsh, JB, B. Ford, Joe Gray, Pierre Crosby. Alameda gave Contra Costa the buisness.
July 13th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Marin Catholic wasn’t in the NCS finals against Encinal, it was Novato. And Serra didn’t go to OT against DLS, DLS had the botched PAT that they converted for 2 to win in regulation.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
However it went those two teams were good last season and they both have good programs. Marin Catholic beat odowd in the playoffs. and serra is a good team.
Nobody in this area has come close to beatin De La.
July 13th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Im Predictig the Contra Costa Allstars will beat the Alameda Allstars in the 1st game in 10 years
July 13th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
@ Reggie Hammond who was Joe gray what school did he go to I’m trying to remember him.
July 13th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Joe Gray went to Berkeley High with James Barnes.
July 13th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Oh yeah I know who you taling about played LB?
July 13th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
When are there going to be night games in the OAL??? I think it is about time that they try it again! It has been at least five years since the big fight at Tech.( WE are not Barbarians). I do not think that it is right that most parents don’t get to see their kids play because the games are at three when most parents are still working. WE WANT OAL LEAGUE GAMES AT NIGHT. Who is going to lead the Charge?
July 13th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Hey Jimmy Durkin, Why don’t you do a story on that?
July 13th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
coach murph sounds good wat your tellin but don’t you wish come november you guys where playin 4 the ncs d-2 title? don’t you feel your players deserve that shot? oal tradition is important but come on would you rather claim 2 be the best in the bay or just city champs.
July 13th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Man do i wish we were playin for the NCS D2 title. When i was in high school we had one of the greatest football and baseball team around. My Junior year in baseball we went 27-3 in baseball and only got to play NCS Champs Bishop O Dowd in preseason in which we beat them. We went 11-1 in Football my senior season and was ranked #2 in D2 in the State but never got to play any NCS teams. Somethin has to be done so Our league can compete for a bigger title
July 13th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
coach murph it’s just too bad because it sounds like you guys got a team this season that could make a run in ncs d-2. if you guys take care of srv & campo i don’t see anyone in the oal stoppin u guys.i don’t like castlemont or fremonts q.b’s can’t throw.too 1 dimensional those teams.
July 14th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Coach Murph your talking your team up big time I hope you guys take care of business or you will hear about it. Having a good scrimmage against Marin Catholic & Serra is something to get excited about but Damn you are basically saying your going to run through every team you play. Which is cool you should believe that but you can’t do it in July. I hope you guys aren’t peaking. I’m sure Marin Catholic & Serra will be a lot better in 2 months hope you plan on being.
July 14th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Thanks You Perkin… You took the words right out of my mouth…
July 14th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Anyways been a lot of OAL talk some HAAL talk with a lot more too come but anyone hear whats going on in the BSAL or ACCAL? We all know Berkeley should be solid probably win league unless Pinole is back to form. I hear that El Cerrito is lookin nice new QB with a nice couple of RBs & Alameda is going to be a lot better I hear that they going to contend. Anything on Pinole? Never know whats going on there they don’t do any Camps or Passing Leagues just lift.
In the BSAL Pre-season front runner is St. Pats new QB(converted WR) great backs & their D is shut-down. Piedmont has a lot comig back but I have heard nothing about their offense hope he’s not starting over. Encinal total rebuilding lost everything last year 4-5 sophs starting (we all know what happend to E. Culb) but some good returners should be a play-off team but won’t contend for a league title. Albany has a nice QB & a pretty solid RB with a lot of returners could finish ahead of Encinal.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Yup he was a LB. I think, if Im not mistaken, you was supposed to be on that team as well. I think Dewey Hale was supposed to be on that team too or maybe that was the year before 97. Anyways, Alameda County should win this game. I got my tickets and I will be there
July 14th, 2009 at 11:06 am
I hear St. Pats wants to be in Salesians league because they are a small school. Didn’t they win the BSAL like 3 years in a row or something before finally losing last year now they want to change. Wow.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Kyle,
who is Grant playing this year? They just don’t play any East Bay teams do they. Im a big De La fan and I know this maybe a little pre-mature but Im sensing De La just dont want to play Grant. Money shouldnt be a problem. But I mean who is De La’s rival? Long Beach Poly, Serra or Pittsburgh. De La dont always play Pitt so..? Grant would be a great rival for them especially these days dont you think? Its a shame that all the great things Ladocuer has been able to do he cant get a game with Grant. Coach Al has been very open about wanting to beat De La for years. Kyle maybe the media can get it done. I know you and Jimmy do great things.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Reggie, St Pat’s ain’t trying To see my Jets again and the same goes for salesian.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Perkin,Where do you get your information? Encinal is returning a solid core on Defense as well as Offense and should repeat as BSAL champs.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Oakland looks good. WR’s catch everything. But Oakland’s running game needs some work. Castle has a strong bend but dont break defense and I think JB has some hitters on his team.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:24 am
I don’t know Old School. Encinal is small and out of shape looking this year. 1 hit wonder type I think.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:33 am
No,The year before they won BSAL and NCS they went 9-3 to 2nd round Div 2 playoff so they are not a 1 hit wonder.
July 14th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
it’s time for de la stop playin serra & get it on wit grant.
July 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
De La Salle often schedules their games years in advance. It’s not as easy as picking up a phone and giving somebody a call. Word has it, they tried to set up a game with Grant but things fell through when it came to the financial side of things. Which side backed out is still unclear. Also, there’s nothing wrong with playing Serra. Serra is a talented team with a head coach who knows what he’s doing. They nearly beat the Spartans last year. This season DLS plays Serra, Lakeland of Florida, and Don Bosco Prep in New Jersey. Anyone of those teams have a viable shot at a victory. Lakeland and DBP being national powerhouses at that. Not to mention, afterwards they head into league play with arguably one of the toughest leagues in the state and in a section with so much talent that it’s mind boggling at times. DLS has proved, time and time again, that they step up to the plate whenever possible. If the game can happen, 99% of the time it will.
July 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
nothing wrong with playin serra but i want to know who the best in norcal is! i believe de la would have trouble with grants size & athletism. de la is the best around here we all know that but grant won state that should make de la wanna play them.
July 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Well Im pushing 30 and never seen De La Salle play Grant ever. Not saying it never happened but there seems to be some hiding.
July 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
I think its easier to play a team in Sacramento then in New Jersey
July 14th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
yea, DLS is certainly hiding from Grant. they appear to be very afraid of those Pacers. They are so afraid, they go out and schedule 2 perennial top 10 nationally ranked teams for 2009. Sure sounds like they are very afraid.
July 14th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Why schedule “2 perennial top 10 nationally ranked teams” when you can play California’s best, Grant? Maybe they are afraid… Sure seems like it. =p
July 14th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Like I stated earlier, they tried to hook up for a game and both sides couldn’t agree on the financial side of things. Everyone in the world of Northern California Prep Football knows that Grant is a worthy opponent and we all want this to happen. All I’m saying is, why does someone have to be ducking someone else? Why is that the only possible circumstance for which these two powerhouses have not met? It’s not like Grant has been calling out DLS for the last thirty years either Reggie Hammond so let’s give the guys adequate time to schedule the game before labeling one a coward.
July 14th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Ducking Grant? You gotta be crappin me. DLS never ducked anyone….and I’m not really a fan of the program. Just reality. Grant has a really good year and suddenly everyone is afraid. Sure buddy.
July 14th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
I also read there were some financial issues that prevented Grant from playing De La Salle, and I kinda agree with HAAL. De La Salle seems to have a pretty solid program yet everyone can’t wait to pounce on them and why is it De La’s fault that they haven’t played, what if Grant is scared to play them? Between the two, De La represents the Bay and I will take the Bay over Sac anytime.
July 14th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Don’t really have a fav football team, but I do admire the fact that De La plays teams from out of state. I know they have more options than some other programs, but I still think it’s cool and right or wrong, they do represent the Bay.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
How come De La Salle never plays teams from Florida or Texas? We all know outside of California that is where the real football is played.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:02 am
HAAL Fan,
Financial issues ya right. What, did De La want to keep all of the money. Anybody ever been to that Sacramento area. Its not the richest place in the world. De La dont want to play organized Bra’s and Poly’s is what I fear. For a Catholic private school money should never be an issue. Financial issues huh.
Football is a man’s sport so dont be so sensitive. De La is supposed to be the best but they wont even schedule the best team in California. Dont get me wrong Lakeland and DBP are perennial top 10 nationally but what does that mean for Grant. All they are doing is sinking their own ship. Whoever De La beats, Grant would beat too and by a bigger margin and without kicking field goals.
Grant is bigger, faster, stronger, meaner than De La, Lakeland, DBP. Stop ducking.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:08 am
BBfan2,
I would be right there with you cheering for De La. But as a fan you have to be pretty upset that they cant get this game done. I mean that financial issues argument happened like 4 or 5 years ago I believe (?). They need to be a little more open. Grant looked mean last year too aint that the truth. Why don’t De La go and kick their butts.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:06 am
all i got 2 say is they both went state & only one team got it done! you saw wat cenntinel did 2 de la. that’s wat happens when you put great athletes in a system,the old de la teams wit d.j williams or m.drew’s team could compete with anyone but know de la aint gettin the top flight players it use too. everyone knows at the end of the season it will be between de la-grant thats y they should play decide it on the field!
July 15th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
What’s Grant’s record in past seasons? Just curious. Have they been to state before? What about their coaching staff? Just wonderin. I need a little more facts before I go all GA GA over Grant, and when I don’t particularly care for either team, I will always go with the closest to me, in this case De La. If someone could enlighten me, I sure would appreciate it. Not even being sarcarstic.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
OAL FAN: Lakeland is from Florida. I doubt that anyone they schedule would ever be enough for you anyway.
MURDOC: We may be talking about a private Catholic school but we’re still talking about prep sports. Not everyone at De La is one of the rich white kids from over the hill. Besides, “Grant is bigger, faster, stronger, meaner than De La, Lakeland, DBP. Stop ducking.” It seems like you’re not as impartial as you may think. I remember hearing this kind off talk before, oh yeah that’s right. It was from the folks at Poly and St. Louis.
Billjohnson: You’re 100% right. I hope we can get this game going. We need to see it happen.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Bbfan DeLa has to beat the best to be the best. By the way
DeLa lost to Don Bosco last year and almost lost to Serra so please stop talking about them like they can’t be beat.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Bbfan. Who in the HAAL can beat Mack or any OAL school for that matter?
July 15th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Sorry Bbfan…I meant to send this out to HAAL fan.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
DLS has beaten the best. People said they were only a local powerhouse and couldn’t beat teams from a tougher Southern Section. They go down to LBP and Mater Dei and hand it to them. They beat a powerful St. Louis team in Aloha Stadium. They beat Evangel Christian of Louisiana. Elder of Ohio got handed a loss. They even blanked one of your beloved Coach Beam’s Skyline teams before playing them two years later and beating them 48 – 7. So before we just say they don’t step up to the competition let’s take a second to look at the data. I’m sure they will eventually schedule Grant.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
On another note, there are teams who can match up with the OAL teams. Football is a game of match ups. I’ve always thought, personnel wise, the OAL has the cream of the crop when it comes to athletic ability. It’s just spread so thin amongst the schools in the league. I can’t even begin to imagine the potential of a team with all those playmakers. However, the HAAL has their fair share of athletes as well and when coupled with the right system they can do some damage. Sadly, the state of coaching in the HAAL is on the decline. The golden age of HAAL football was in the 90′s to early 2000′s. Perenon was, and still is, winning with the zone up on the hill. Brennan was running Wing-T in the valley. Roberts at Arroyo. Hagenson at San Lorenzo. San Leandro has been, well, San Leandro. But now, all the old timers are out of the game and it’s time for a new batch of coaches to prove their mettle. It seems like this is the story for all of prep sports. To answer your question, the OAL as of recent, hasn’t shown much in the way of out of league games. Win there, then talk trash.
July 15th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Not talking trash HAAL just asking questions of which you still haven’t answered… Instead you choose to talk about how the glory years of the HAAL are gone and the coaching is bad.. Okay the coaching is bad at what school?
July 15th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
The OAL will be above 500 in the preseason! How many leagues beside the EBAL can say that?
July 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
HAAL fan,
Poly and St. Louis havent won state recently. I havent mentioned them, De La beat them. I was at Poly game. De La hasnt beat Grant. Why are so much against Grant. You still want to be patient about this. Why cant De La get this done man
If you ever go to the blogs on the Sacramento Bee you may want to think differently.
July 16th, 2009 at 9:41 am
oal fan that will be tough cuz last year the oal went 14-15-1 in non-league. this seasons on paper the oal has some tougher games in non-league so it wont be easy. as for haal fan your league was weak all u have san leandro. bod is a joke anytime the play a good team they lose y do think peronon doesnt play good teams till he’s force too.you saw wat marin catholic did to them 28-0 at half.
July 16th, 2009 at 9:50 am
haal fan san leandro is good no doubt but when you compare them 2 other d-1 they cant hang. they lost twice at home 2 srv. who did o’dowd beat last year? there best win was hayward & hayward beat no quality team last year. san leandro will probably go 7-0 again in haal & bod 6-1. so predictable.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Mack, Tech, O-HIgh, Castle, and Fremont should do good in the pre-season. Skyline will go 0 and 5….
July 16th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
But I am still pulling for Skyline!
July 16th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
skyline is a joke! coach evans should be ashamed of what he let that program turn in too. the best thing he did at skyline was resign. now he’s back with beam at laney. i guess somebody’s gotta go get the coffee & donuts cuz i know he aint involved in the game plan.
July 16th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Bill Johnson, I know the truth hurts but do you have to hit below the waste? I know that coach evans did the best that he could.
July 16th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Coaching on the OAL is not the easiest thing to do Coach Evans did the best with what he had lest we forget he did make some silver boawl apperances and even won one when he was the heavy underdog!
July 17th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Yea, but that was Beams team.
July 17th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
e_culb wat r u saying he had no players? beam left the well went dry? skyline went from penthouse to 1-9 bottom of the barrel in wat 2 seasons! he must have had something he beat u!
July 17th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Billy that was below the belt. Coach Evans is a good guy just not Head Coach material. Showed a lot of class by stepping down obviously feeling he was part of what went wrong. Beam & Carter jus made it look easy when in reality it takes a lot & a lot more then just coaching on the field. Most coaches I’ve talked to say that just dealing with equipment & travel is enough to make you go crazy not even talking fundraising.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:36 am
Hey This si for my boy murph, now you know you are my boy but you cannot go off of these contact camps simply because you guys are very talneted but really you guys are trying to win scrimmages instead of looking to get better on the small things. Like against us you guys sent 9 guys on defense in a scrimmage, I mean blitzed every down against us in a scrimmage,but when you guys played us straight up and the other teams there you were able to see where the corrections needed to happen. Not too many teams have even went over blitz pick-up this early, remeber this is July. Then on offense you guys pretty much showing the majority of ur playbook it seems to me, you ran everything that you ran last season in just one day at a scrimmage,so believe me serra did not show much and to me their RB did very well against u guys even Coop said that, and Marin did well against you guys, and We did not do a sbad as it may have seemed. But trust me I am not complaining but just saying that u guys are going into these scrimmages trying to say whether you won or lost, thats not the point! it should be to get a look from another team and help the other teams as well. So I just think there is alot of football to be played by everyone. Just like us at Albany, We did not play that well against you guys blitzing us but we did well at times aginst you, against Serra and marin, but we can’t feel like we have done anything becasue of that, it was a scrimmage in July. we use this to go back and look at how we can improve on what we have done. There was not suppose to be any blitzing anyway according to coach peralta but nobody complained because it was not that important. You guys needs to stay humble and not get to excited about a scrimmage. but you know you still my boy, just my opinion.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:46 am
You kow I think you guys need to stop sleeping on Tech! For one they have the longest tenured coach in the OAL to date in Coach Edwards, and he knows the game, this year will probably be his most stacked year with D1 talent since 2005 when we had Anthony McCrady and Jameel Banks, and Seth Smith and Godfrey Smith. they have some big time players in Big Defensive Tackle Fred, Ryan Murphy,Diandre Campbell, and others. I believe they will be a force in the OAL again, after a few down years the last 3 seasons. Plus I am a Bulldog for life and would never ever count out my Boys from the Tech House.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Skyline is still trying to find themselves I’m sure. It will take Coach Kizzee a few years. Fremont will have to show us that last year was not a fluke with the wing T Set, and the same for Oakland High who probably has one of the most explosive players in the league in Horton and they have to answer some eligibility issues, and that will be the key for them becasue they will not have alot of depth. Mack will have to prove that they can return to their past form of dominance, but I am not sure if they have that same type of attitude. Castlemont seems to have a good amount of returners but does have to answer a few questions offensively. Defense is their strength! BUT SINCE I’M NO LONGER COACHING IN THE OAL I HAVE TO TAKE MY TECH BOYS TO MAKE A BIG STATEMENT THIS SEASON.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:57 am
BUT AS FOR MY BOYS AT ALBANY, WE ARE YOUNG AND ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE IN THE BSAL. WE WILL HAVE A NICE TEAM THIS YEAR, AND HANDS DOWN WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST DEFENSIVE LINEMAN IN THE BAY AREA. ANDREW REGGI! PLEASE REMEMBER THE NAME!!!!!
AND WE HAVE A NICE QB IN ANDREW SPIVEY WHO HAS BEEN UNDERRATED THE PAST FEW YEARS, BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE A LITTLE NOISE THIS YEAR.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:40 am
Green, didn’t even know you were at the scrimmage nobody mentioned it. You’re not suppose to blitz at scimmages like you’re not suppose to hit QBs but it always happens. If O-High is playing th same D they did last year then its a Gap 8 so stacking the box & firing is what they do so it would be wrong to tell a team that they can’t do what they do. Murph is a little fired up cuz his team was shinning nothing wrong with that but he’s putting an X on his chest. Couldn’t tell you I wasn’t there. Anybody at that scrimmage other then 2 probably biased coaches?
Somebody has seemed to take notice of you Perkins said that you’re gonna finish 3 in the BSAL & beat Encinal. You willing to stand by that? You gonna have the first winning season in the last 20 years for Albany? You guys had an traditional El Cerrito like team last year maybe the best athletes I’ve ever seen at Albany your freesafety, TE, RB, Sweeper, & QB were nice. But I saw you hang with Encinal for a quarter then get ran through. Then lose to St. Pats without Meeshack by a lot.
July 18th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Big Green did I hear you correctly? Albany did good against Serra and Marin Catholic? If that is true, you should win the BSAL with know problem!
July 18th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Well Green we are not going into contact Camps/Scrimmages trying to win them lol..Yes we have some talented guys but we coach them up including the small things…Its about getting better and working on things and seeing returners/young guys and new guys..
We played teams both ways “straight up” and blitzing THATS WHAT WE DO… and we still did not give up much of nothing?
And when I said “Serra RB did okay against us” Thats because we peach give up nothing…So most people would be like dam you guys look great out there..But in are eyes on D it was okay… And no it was not all the same plays from last year on O lol
July 18th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Oh yea last time I checked 9-2 Co league Champs and one game away from the Sliver Bowl is not a fluke…But yea thats just opinion.
July 18th, 2009 at 9:25 am
creme de la creme one game away? come on oal playoffs mean nothing. tech was 1 game away from silver bowl wats that prove? silver bowl is a glorified league championship nothing more. castle won it last year when the season was over the where still rank only 15 in east bay. can’t wait 2 see you guys play srv u got any predictions 4 that game?
July 18th, 2009 at 9:28 am
big green so u must be the favorites with best q.b & def. lineman to win the bsal. is it your year? how do u see d the bsal standings break’n down this year?
July 18th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Green your acting like blitzing is unfair. I was at the Castlemont vs O-High game last year & these guys will do it the whole game! So what are you gonna say they can’t blitz the whole game? You gonna whine in Baseball if you get a first pitch curve cuz thats not suppose to happen? If you got CBs that can hold up in man the whole game why not just blitz everyone else? If you got a pitcher that can throw a first pitch curve for a strike. Do it baby. Coach Murphy will appreciate the Baseball talk cuz I heard he was a pretty good pitcher.
Green I hope you don’t go against a good Doublewing team cuz they will run the same play the WHOLE DAMN GAME! If you can’t stop it then why not?
July 18th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Don’t sleep on MACK!!!
July 18th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
who does mack play n non-league?
July 18th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Mckinnlyville pinole deanza hogan
July 18th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
“Cal Preps” just posted their predictions.
1. Castlemont
2. Oakland High
3. Fremont
4. MACK
5. Tech
6. Skyline
July 18th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
oal fan i saw that on cal preps. they got san ramon valley 5th in ebal.hope o-high can beat the 5th ranked team out of the ebal.
July 18th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Tough game for O-High!
July 18th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
oal fan i seen all the teams in oal not impressed with the q.b play expect the kid from o-high. i would say mack has the 2nd best q.b after that the others can’t be relied on 2 win a game.
July 18th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I agree, I think both MACK and O-High have good QB’s but I also feel that Fremont Tech and Castlemont will be tough with their running games.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
It proves a lot for a team that had been 0-10 the season before to 9-2 and Co League Chapms… To you the Silver Bowl is a glorified league championship in your eyes but for the players/coaches/schools and city its a big deal…Plus I was talking OAL football…Predictions sorry I don’t do them.
July 18th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Lets be honest OAL football isnt what it used to be. Oakland high just doesnt stand a chance against SRV. And realistically if the OAL ever does join NCS like they keep talking about they will only get 1 team into the playoffs a year and thats because league champs get automatic bid.
July 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
creme de la creme don’t get me wrong it’s great 2 win league(silver bowl) but no more than berkeley winning accal or salesian winnig there’s same difference league champs. if o-high wins the oal this season great but ultimately you’ll be judged by the srv & campo game. also how castle & fremont due in non-league?
July 18th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
And I hear you on that…
July 19th, 2009 at 4:25 am
You are right E-Culb I do read these blogs and once again I think it’s funny how this blog originally was suppose to be about Damantae Horton going to Washington St. not all this other madness!! As far as the young man that keeps questioning my Offensive and Defensive schemes as a Coach? Check the ’05 11-1 team that Beat Crenshaw(LA) that won the LA City Championship which they beat Dorsey(LA) twice and buy the way that team had 9 D-1 cats including Derrick Hill (CAL) the first and only U.S. Army All American to come out of the OAL and he was the ANG Defensive Player of the Year and #1 Cream of the Crop Prospect and he currently starts at Nose Tackle for Cal. As far as my success at Berk Hs no I haven’t won as many Div 1 games as I would like but we did beat Logan last year and Castro Valley from the rough and tough HAAL? LOL!!!! Berk Hs was 4-6 before I took over with a total of about 90 kids in the program and in two years ’07 (6-4-1), ’08 (9-2) both years ACCAL Champs and we’ve added a Freshmen program and now the total amount of kids in the program is 150 plus!! And as far as my schemes being to Vanilla alot of people predicted the Contra Costa All Star Team winning the game but I’m sorry because I’m fresh of winning that game 13-0 with my Vanilla scheme coaching the Alameda All Star Team. So excuse me for believing in old school smash mouth football on offense and Fast & Physical punch you in the mouth style on Defense. That never wins??? Last but not least my predictions for my be-loved OAL (Real Football) is 1) Castlemont (Defending Champs) 2) Oak Tech 3) Mack) 4) Oak Hs 5) Fremont 6) Skyline (But Watch Mack and Tech they both could move up!!) and in closing I would like to wish all my HATERS to keep doing what you do because all you do is motivate me to do is work harder and to keep giving you a reason to keep my name ringing out you mouth! Thank You and May God Bless You all. PS E-Culb keep your head up and give me a call anytime Lil Bro
July 19th, 2009 at 5:36 am
hey Perkin.I was not talking about the plays they ran were bad, I was saying it seemed like they were showing alot of their offense in the scrimmage, but I could be run, thats what i meant. And I would never cry about a team blitzing just like I did not care about it at the scrimmage, but what i am saying is that it is july and many teams have not eve went over their full blitz pick up scheme, so to get over excited about a scrimmage to me would be a bit premature, thats all i’m saying. And the coach creme, you know I know you guys coach them up thats not what I was saying, I just feel there is no real reason to talk after a few scrimmages, when you are going their and blitzing the entire time, that’s all i’m saying. And yes we did very well against Marin and Serra on both days, and that was just running a few simple plays over and over again, we may have ran 3 runn plays and 3 passing plays on both days and had success with just those 6 plays, because we were just starting out and it was the first time Albany has ever participated in a contact camp, and to answer ur question i defenitely believe we can be a top team in the BSAL and have a chance to win the league this season, but we have alot of work to do, so stay posted, and we will just see what happens. i will start with my Oal predictions first.
1-Castlemont
2-Tech
3-Mack
4-O-High
5-Fremont
6-Skyline
BSAL-wise I will go with this. Leaving Albany out!
1-St Pat’s-ST Vincent
2-Piedmont- they still running the A-11
3-Encinal
4-St Mary’s
5-John Swett
6-Kennedy
7-Moreau Catholic
I believe we have a great chance to win the league and be in the top 3 as early as this year.
July 19th, 2009 at 6:49 am
And I really do agree with you Coop, you gys have a great team ad you kn ow I believe that cause we always tlak about it, my whole thing is making it sound like becaue you did well against a certain team in a scrimmage means other teams need to watch out for you, and to me others teams should wtach out for you regardless because it’s football.And you should not have to change people’s mind by saying that we served so on and so on in a scrimmage so give me my respect, you know as well as I do, that it does not work like that! Even the year were at O-High. We served the teams that came to our scrimmage that year, but we did not do the things we needed to do to win the games in the season. So thats all I am saying, i would not waste my breath trying to convince others that we will be good, I would just show them when the time came.
July 19th, 2009 at 8:13 am
I think that alot of people are sleeping on O-high but after hearing there coach on here makes me wonder how good are they gonna allow themselfs to be. O-high you guys sound a lil cocky on here and i was pulling for you. Good luck because all you did was wake up the OAL and put a target on your back. Big Green do you really think that St. Pat’s will re-take the BSAL?
July 19th, 2009 at 8:15 am
How does Encinal and Piedmont look this year? Anybody seen them in any action?
July 19th, 2009 at 9:43 am
coach carter i wanna see old school smash mouth football win in november! forget november how bout beat’n pittsburg?
July 19th, 2009 at 9:55 am
big green didnt encinal & piedmont beat st.pats last year? they lose there q.b & both running backs you got them as the favorites? encinal 3rd didnt they run through that league blow everyone out? big green you lost 2 john swett now you think you’ll contend? keep it real.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:11 am
coach carter checked out the ’05 team that beat crenshaw who went on to beat dorsey twice. the same dorsey that beat you 31-0. let’s keep it local in your games against valley christian u lost 26-0, 24-6 against bellarmine 37-0. all i know is when you play a good team smash mouth aint been working 6 points in 3 games. doesnt seem like it’s gonna work this year in ncs better hope you avoid the ebal or pitt come november.i would hate 2 see de la put another 59 burger on u. oh yeah another game smash mouth football didnt score in.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Wow Green you really went out on a limb you just picked the same as Carter in the OAL & Perkin in the BSAL. You picked St. Pats first have you even seen them? I know they lost a lot from last year whole starting backfield. Encinal is gonna be down just lost too much. QB, top 2 WRs, best Talilback, best O-linemen, both OLBs, FS, CB, DE almost starting over. So you gonna beat them Green? Make a call you talking bout some DT & QB way too much playboy. Who’s gonna give you a game & who do you expect to beat? O-High guys have no trouble letting their opinion be known. If you’re not willing to make a call then don’t talk your team up cuz it don’t matter how good you think your player are you play for W’s.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Bill Johnson, Coach Carter did not coach against the 59-0 lost to DE LA!!!! Or did you forget that.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:38 am
oal fan you think the score would have been different? oal fan please explain 2 me y he did’nt coach that game?
July 19th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Did Encinal really lose that much? Thats the whole team. But Thats the coaches fault for playing all seniors. Have to prepare for the future even though you have a loaded squad and play your juniors players so they are ready the next year. I been hearing bad things about Encinal this summer. I havent heard anything from St.Pats but I wont be surprised if they make a come back this year. Piedmont is always going to be well coached and ready to compete but i wonder what they will run this year without the A-11.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Why he didn’t coach that game is not the point the point…. Where were the Niner’s before Walsh got there or the Colt’s before Dungy ? The fact is Carter is a good coach and you cnnot “Hate” his record!
July 19th, 2009 at 10:55 am
oal fan from ’02 till ’08 he’s played dorsey,crenshaw,valley christian,bellarmine,san leandro,logan,foothill,de la,deer valley & pitt he’s record is ……2-17. i guess i’m hating even though it’s a fact. smash mouth works when your the big dog until another big dog comes along then wat 2-17!
July 19th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Bill Johnson, Carter also knows how to manage a his coaches and his players. Trust me, if he was there the score would not have been 59-0.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:05 am
oal fan trust me carter don’t want no part of de la. he needs 2 manage his way out the 1st round of ncs!
July 19th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Bill Johnson I guess you forgot to mention all of his wins and the players he sent to D-1 schools.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Bill Johnson,Read Carter’s statement at blog #360 I think he is talking to you.. His record speaks for itself. The famous coach at De La hasn’t put more kids in college than Carter.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Coach Carter congrats for getting picked to coach the All-Star game thats the real honor. I don’t think that winning it or losing it is that big of a deal but that probably all changes when the game starts. Tech #2?? Fremont High #5??? I know that Tech always has boys but the organization just isn’t there. As much as the OAL supporters & longtimers hate to believe it the Head Coachh at Fremont High right now was the Head Coach at Fremont High last year Dennard pretty much turned the team over too them props to him cuz they got it done. They beat the heavily talked about O-High twice last year handling them pretty good in one of those games. They are no worse then 2 in the OAL.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Roeper, I know you just didn’t take a shot at coach Delton….
July 19th, 2009 at 11:17 am
oal fan you ever heard of d.j williams,maurice drew,aaron taylor,gutierriez from new england all in the nfl.the famous coach at de la hasnt lost in the bay area since ’91. i know his record speaks 4 it’s self 2-17 against good teams!
July 19th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Ladoceur and Carter are the top two active coaches in the Bay, there’s no disputing that. Lad’s been at it longer, but Zo’s impact of late has been remarkable. I don’t know a young man in Oakland/Richmond/Hayward that doesn’t want to play for him. If I had a son in high school he’d be at Berkeley High or Oakland High no matter where I lived. Congrats to Alameda County, you’ll remember that game forever… And for the players going to local jucos you now have bragging rights over some of your teammates.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Bill Johnson, Give coach Carter the money and school suppurt and De La and trust me he would have more kids in college and the NFL… No one ever wants to talk about the advantages that De La has with the MONEY SUPPORT and being able to legally RECRUIT….
July 19th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Zo… How you drop my Wildcats in the predictions like that???? Anyways, if you do take the CCC job in the future… I know you’re going to be looking for a QB coach! (hint, hint)… I’ll call you about that when the time comes.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:44 am
AARON HORNE WON MVP ACC COUNTY ALL STAR GAME! Is Damonte Horton the better player now?
July 19th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Will someone please explain the theory that Laney is rolling and sending kids to D1 Schools…please state which D1 school are we referring to.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:52 am
kenny edwards any predictions 4 o-high against campo & srv?
July 19th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Delton Edwards is an underachiever. Lets not even talk so much about the past even though he peaked in 03 and hasn’t won since 05. This year he’s got a nice squad but he’ll get handled by Castlemont & Fremont. You OAL guys seemd to be hating on Fremont High why? Cuz they have an al Samoan & Hawaiin coaching staff? They’re are going to handle Tech & beat O-high period lets just leave it at that. Castlemont is gonna handle Tech. The game has passed Edwards by new coaches like Barnes & Falevai are running things in this league now.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Roeper…Let’s keep race out of it!!! When you line up eleven that’s all that counts. I have noticed a change over at Fremont the last couple of years and it looks like most of the Samoan’s are going there now. Is that because of coach Dennard or the new guy.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
oal fan castlemont was the best the oal had to offer lost 2 berkeley tied concord both who couldnt get out the 1st round of ncs. really how good is the oal?
July 19th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Bill Johnson, funny how you didn’t respond to my comment about De La having an advantage… but anyway, I have seen all the teams in the OAL and like I said before the Skyline is the only weak spot. The OAL will be above 500 in pre-season.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
oal fan hell yeah they have an advantage but in the end they take care of business. oal fan tell me y carter is 2-17
July 19th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Valley Christian, Private… De La, Private… Bellermaine, Private. All of the schools can legally recruit.
July 19th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
And they all have money… Give coach Carter just a little of what they would call him a football GOD!
July 19th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
oal fan o.k he was 0-4 against those private schools. wat bout the other 13 loses?
July 19th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
News guy’s plural. Falevai has a whole staff that came on board last year with him & took over. What do you think?
July 19th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Coach Carter is the best Coach in the East Bay he doesn’t have to recruit b/c players see the intensity and the emotion he brings to games and wants to be apart of that….Coach Carter coached our All Star team like we were getting ready for a game against one of our rivals…i greatly appreciate the opportunity to get the chance to play for a Bay Area Legend and lol the chance to see him break it down after the game lol!!!!
July 19th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
oal fan in his 17 loses the average score was 32-9 my bad take away those private school games the avg.is 31-11. the 2 wins he did get avg. score was 13-8. remember stats don’t lie 2-17.
July 19th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
BillJohnson, I hate to throw out uneducated predictions… I haven’t seen any of those three teams this summer(srv, campo, or O-high)… Off pure fanaticism I’m going w/ O-High to win both, but we’ll see. Still trying to workout time to see my Wildcats practice.
July 19th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
First how did this go from Damantae Horton to all this other stuff???
Second we were not over excited about that scrimmage? its was the end of a long 5 day week of contact camp..passing league.. and that scrimmage….We were just getting work just like everybody else..And I never said other teams need to watch out for us…change people’s minds and saying that saying we served????
On a positive note loved seeing the All Star game great that its back it was nice look and turn out…Thanks to all the people who help to make happen…All the OAL players looked nice out there also..
July 19th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Bill Johnson, I mean “Coach Carter Hater” You may be right about the win and lost stats but if you have seen Berkeley High this year you will see the work coach Carter has done in just three years! Bring on De La and the Blankin EBAL..
July 19th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Hey Roper, how can you say that coach Delton is an underachiever?
July 19th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Everybody is obviously just using this as a forum to talk about whatever they want. Whats wrong with that?
I don’t want to get into this with you OAL Fan but its a slow Sunday. You already lost the Carter argument & its the same with Delton but worse. He’s had NFL & D-1 players on his teams He always has boys but what has he done? Won the Silver Bowl once wow. You’re already into with the Bill Johnson on what that means. Plays Pinole Valley every year & loses. He has a losing record every year damn near. Who has he ever really beat St. Mary’s, Albany? Obviously all we have to gauge what kind of team ha has is his non-league. Go on CalPreps OAL Fan its pretty bad.
July 19th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
First of all I feel Castlemont has a few good players Deandre Ward, Jordan Green, William Stream, Jakari Johnson and more on the rise.
Also:
Brandon Davis SDSU starting FS
Roy Hurst Utah ST started 2yr CB
Tyrone Radford head to Univ Oregon #1 FS
Ishan Sheed South Carolina ST 3year start
Chris little CAL
10 more players are in D-1, D-2 throughout academics .
Now for all you coaches out there that think you know why I dont’t send my kids to Laney is because:
1) 1997 Peters cost me a year of Ju-Co ball because he lied to the commissioner and stated DVC paid me and bought me dinner on my recruiting trip. That forced me to play at fresno city for 1 year because I was banned to play for any team in the bay area.
2)What the Laney coaches don’t know is that we heard from past Castlemont players that went to Laney all the Sh__t talking about our players and coaching staff going back to the Denny days may he rest in peace.
3)Castlemont player John Uno was 1st team all league and still couldn’t break the starting line up.
4)Laney coaches went up to Castlemont behind my back and spoke to my AD about my players when I told him not to and he spoke on me and my action agaisnt Laney.
5)Passing League tour yes I didn’t like playing 4 of my five games on the grass and having a 3 to 4 hr window before each game.
Now with that said since I have been coaching each year Laney has had a Castlemont player on there team they didn’t get Aaron but they got Paul “best d-linemen in the bay area”
July 19th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
oal fan i am right about the win-lose record aint no maybe’s. will see wat berkeley does against pitt & in the playoffs they should win there league but if he doesnt no playoffs! didnt berkeley only score on special teams against pitt last year? vanilla offense won’t get it done against the big boys!
July 19th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Big green,Encinal will repeat as BSAL champs. The O-line just got bigger,Skill players are returning still got the killer inside backers and the backs got speed.
July 19th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
oal fan let me correct myself cuz b-high did score an offensive touchdown against pitt. perfect example to show you guys wat smash football does when it meets someone just as big or athletic. berkeley 34 rushes for 68 yds that’s 2 yds a carry. pitt 26 carries for 199 yds.
July 19th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Encinal doesnt have their three best players aymore( brown,milton, sashington) and some on the lineman also grdauated. so who do they have now?
July 19th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Big Green “LOL”
It’s funny how you can say I think I am all that because I don’t send my players to Laney because I had a few good seasons. But like I tell any other coach put up or shut up and put me on your schedule 2010. I’m not afraid to play anyone anywhere, thats something me and Pat Hill have in common. I have to go up north to get teams to play me. I was the frist person on the North coast section to ask for games and no one called me then when I called them I got the cold shouder. “I called you” and i know for sure Albany had a couple of weeks open. lol
As for Horne and Horton they are both good players but I feel and I know Horne is a better player from the numbers at KOR, PR, WR, RB, QB, CB he scored twice at all these positions and locked down Horton when they matched up.
Now his JR year he scored five TD in five Oal Games where was Horton? Who was Horton? So until I see him do it agianst top teams then we will see. “A player is judged by wins and games meaning you must perform all 10-12 games and win at least %80 of them because of there proformance” .
For the record we do not have Mcfadden’s brother on our team, he is not Mcfadden’s brother but he will be the best back in the OAL in 2009, 2010, 2011.
Victims:
OAL RECORD: HEAD COACH 12-3 .800 winning per
Prese Teams
Tam 5-6
Concord 7-3-1
SAL- 9-3 “BEAT U BY 50″
Windsor 4-6
Berkeley 9-2 lost “kickoff called back final sec”
-Com Rec: 34-21-1 .607 winng per
-”10 of the 12 teams made there section playoffs ”
-#1 or #2 ranked DEF in the bayarea in the past four. years.
-Back to Back Silver Bowl apperance winning one.
July 19th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
oal fan the 3 wins tech had last year there opponents had a combined 5 WINS! they STILL made the oal playoffs wow! tech’s best year in ’03 the lost to 4-6 pinole valley had to be one of the weakest teams pinole’s ever had!
July 19th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I will always stand up for the OAL and it’s coaches. Coach Carter is not a part of the OAL anymore but i still give him the respect that you guys are not giving him. If you read his two Blogs #35 and 360 he address you “Haters” .
July 19th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
oal fan i guess it’s like jack said “you can’t handle the truth” cuz all i’ve said are facts guess that makes me a “hater” so coach carter can address me anyway he wants. he’s still 2-17!
July 19th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
ACCALfan, nothing on this blog is a lie we lost all those players & we are starting 4 sophs. Mark let these guys say whatever they want we will do our talking on the field. We have nothing coming back. EC you guys have a nice looking squad. Kenny my QB is real fired about you saying he got knocked out against Marin(you gotta deal with him now) & we gave them the game. None of these seniors forgot about 06 they were all Freshmen. Alameda High you and you coaches can talk all the sh*t you want my players will do my talking on the field in the BigGame. We’ll see who’harder then not at Passing League. Serra can’t wait. You’re the team we’re focused on you gotta a nice Tailback & a tough team.
Coach Carter congratulations on the win & for getting selected to Coach you deserve for all you’ve done. St. Pats #1 alright we’ll see what time it is. Blanton the way you shitted all over Jon Brown at that coaches
meeting & your town shitted all over my team afer this year we can’t wait to get to Vallejo homeboy. Zo I tried to call it cool like you called it cool with Steve Alameda in 07 at our meeting but this guy has not stopped complaining or trying to bring my kids down so I can’t be the bigger man. Ain’t no calling it cool this is personal & trust me Blanton every kid on this teams loves Jon & are just as pissed off as I am. Big Green & Albany your gonna beat us too huh? I guess you picked us 3rd & you 3rd or first. Alright Green we love it. So you got a raw DT & QB good, good. I will do all my talking on the field homeboy. Thats good Green we don’t want any respect we will earn it. JFK I’m sure is still talking sh*t after last year but you & Piedmont have to come to the Nail. We’ll see you all at the top.
July 19th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Coach Tenorio win are you going to schedule a OAL game? Bill Johnson, make sure you come on this blog the night that Berkeley destroys Pitt this year.
July 19th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Well I guess Coach Tenario Just said it all. Jet pride!
July 19th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
OAL Fan the same reason why B-High isn’t playing Castlemont this year. I like the OAL I think they have talent best in the bay. We work-out with Castlemont, O-high, Fremont high. They’re all looking good this year. Just those games don’t get you anywhere NCS wise. We’re way better scheduling a NCS team the panel just gives it a lot more respect. A d-III El Cerrito even if they weren’t beter then Fremont High will get you way further then a Fremont High in NCS eyes. Saying you played a OAL play-off team doesn’t help much cause 4 have to make it. Saying you played a Fremont High who’s a D-II play-off team means more to them remember when we seed OAL play-offs haven’t even happened so there’s no Silver Bowl Champ yet. You guys gotta come to NCS so we can be in the same league. Alameda probably bitch out though we’ll take B-High or O’Dowd in. There’s no reason why we should drive past 6 teams to play Hercules or Pinole, St.Pats. Our league should be the teams closest to us.
Carter thanks for playing my DT only 3 plays! He almost gets a sack & you take him out. Nice.
July 19th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Coach Tenorio, it is good that you respect the OAL. I hope someday they will allow us to play in the NCS playoffs. I saw Albany at the passing league they look very good! I know that Coach Green will have those boys ready.
July 19th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
the reason the OAL isnt in NCS yet is because of the open enrollment policy the Oakland school district has. Kids can go anywhere they want and transfer and play right away. When they change this, and the OAL decided to get in line with NCS regulations, then i think they will join NCS. I think everybody wants this to happen. I know i do, it will open up more playoff spots in at least the D-2 bracket
July 19th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Well personally it’s my opinion and as far as seeing these school, i have not seen that many school in the Bsal, only the tapes from last season in which I was not at Albany, but at the same time, I feel we have a chance to make some noise in the League because nobody respects us, and of course we have to prove it all on the field. So coach Tenorio, don’t all bent out of shape, I gave my own personal predictions and thats exactly what they are predictions, you guys got to remember something this is all fun for me so if a blog gets you fired up, then so be it! And I did not even add the team I coach into the predicitons. And for the record Piedmont is still running the A-11 they just have to change the numbering system and make non eligible guys wear non eligible numbers, but they are still running the A-11. And you know Coach Tenorio, I’m new to the BSAL and really we will see what happens when the season starts, but if ur going to use this to fire up ur kids, please its really not that important, plus we’re picked to go 2-8 on calpreps.com and it really doesn’t matter to me. And yeah we do have a good DT and QB and if i want to point that out I can, don’t get al sensitive about it, it’s a blog so get over it. I respect you and what you have done, but I’m not going to kiss ur butt Coach and say I expect you to win the league, I’ll say great job and keep it moving.
**And one last thing, all sensitive people need to stay off theses blogs, and thats real. People got more important things to do that get into arguments over a blog, So if you can’t handle anothers opinion, go to yahoo.com and park it there homie!!!!!
July 19th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
enough with the coach carter is the best talk… come on. He is an excellent speaker, recruiter, and great at getting his kids out. But he is not a great football coach. He has D-1 kids every year but still doesnt do much, especially now that he is in NCS
He will be in the playoffs every year, but they will never make it past the second round with him. Which is sad because with the enrollment size berkeley has and the type of athletes they have, they should go deep into playoffs every year. But they do have a guaranteed trip to playoffs every year, thats because they play in possibly the worst footbal league in the bay area. And it ranges from D-1 to D-3 schools. They can beat up on teams with less than half their enrollment
July 19th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Aaron Horne is a very good player but like I said before Damante Horton did all what he did as a Jr..So I would have go with Mr Horton the two are game breakers and game changers.
July 19th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
attn: Mr. bill johnson,I don’t know how you from afar can come to the conclusion that a teams success is determinded by how they finish, and if they don’t win ncs they are a failure. We at B-high wanted the best person for our kids. b-high is a school that expects success in every sport. mr.johnson i don’t know you, but i cant remember a team at d1 or a d1 team in the playoffs coached by you.it is easy to coach from the stands or the blog, like all things success comes one step at a time. the success dela has must be respected, until a local team beats them, show some respect.i believe that coach carter and his staff are on the right track taking one game at a time. we at b-high know one thing for berkeley to get through the d1 playoffs that road go’s through dela. Mr Johnson b-high has to win leaque to even get into d1 playoffs so that is pressure all into itself. can you remember when b-high went 9and1 and didn’t get in. can you take that pressure? carter has too. THERE IS NO AT-LARGE FOR BERKELEY HIGH. we need chain crew
help and you need to apply by application for it. should we send you one?
July 19th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Speak the truth Jacketfan!
July 19th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Wow! Coach Tenorio you sound a little scared to me. It looks like you got all upset and had to fire back because you know your team isnt what is was last year. Haha it sounds like the BSAL dont respect you and your team.
July 19th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
There is a lot of HATERS on this blog!
July 19th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Coach Tenerio you sound scared to me. Haha you had to come on here and defend your team because you know this years team is a very big drop off from last years team. Dont get your panties in a bunch.
July 19th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Why is there a lot of HATERS on this blog!
July 19th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
mandown: this is not hating, if you are in the coaching business, the reason you do it is to teach the game. when was the last time the coaches in this area of competition oal, accal,bsal,haal helped another team prepare. the coaches over the hill do. trust me they have lunch together
discussing what it would take to have success against bay teams. the one thing that is important is this, coaches remember that your players must follow the example of your leadership, and if they have been following this blog. don’t get upset if it cost you game time.
July 19th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
I mostly disagree with everything Bill Johnson said but he always makes good points so I have to respect that.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
jacketfan tell me when was the last time b-high won a playoff game? as big as your school is you guys underachieve in every sport. lucky you got girls hoop cuz come playoff time the boys football & baseball team if they can get in go BELLY UP!
July 19th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
jacketfan de anza,richmond,hercules,el cerrito, alameda, pinole valley just gave you 6 reasons why you have 2 win league there all d-2 & d-3. no one’s even close 2 your enrollment you better win league!
July 19th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
why is anyone from albany talk’n? who’s albany? i see you guys are playin mission san jose r u seriuos big green this is gonna get you ready 2 win league & compete in ncs? u lost 2 swett how does that translate to a winning season this year?
July 19th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
B-high won a playoff game 1995,1996, 1997, 1998, 1999
I’m not up set Green just stating the truth !!
Also castlemont has only lost to one ACCL team in 6 years thats why teamS don’t play us, a lost will make them look bad.
OAL -ACCL CASTLEMONT 6-1
LOL if you look at it OAL schools have killed ACCL teams in the past 5 years check the records.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Big Green is the new coach of Albany I have seen them in passing league and they look pretty good!
July 19th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
oal fan it’s alot different with a pass rush! albany’s biggest school in bsal & they’ve let st.pats run it 4 years now wonder he’s hatin on encinal first season they blew everyone out. sounds like sour grapes.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Big Green is bringing in a whole new scheme. He knows what he is doing.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
From what “Big Green” writes Albany hung with O=high, Serra and Marin Catholic in a scrimmage last week.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
oal fan he also wrote that terry smith is doin a good job at tennyson so there goes his credability
July 19th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
coach murph can you confirm that albany hung wit u guys?
July 20th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Berkeley high plays in the the worst football league in all of NCS so dont say “they have to win league” they SHOULD win league. If they dont win league they should be embarassed. Berkeley wouldnt have a chance of winning the EBAL or BVAL, and i honestly dont think they would win the DFAL or DVAl either and those are D-2 leagues.
July 20th, 2009 at 12:20 am
lol
July 20th, 2009 at 1:04 am
First of all Mr. Bill, I have not hated on encinal once since we have been talking, if I did you tell me where, Secondly Mission was already on the schedule from last year I just got there in March, we also had emery on the schedule and I changed that, next thing is I am not the head coach but I am running the offense and we have a new D coordinator as well, so we are trying to build this thing up right. And we open up with Campolindo and then we play and nother team Bradshaw Christian as a late plaug in because thats all i could find so late, but they were decent last yea they went 10-2 up in the Sac league. So come on Bill don’t put words in my mouth, cause as you know in the past when people say Albany you think soft and a non physical team, and to set the record straight Oakland High did pretty much handle us in the scrimmage but at the same time I have to say that they did blitz us 90% of the time, and truthfully the times they didn’t we were able to do so good things, and as I said before we had not put in any blitz pick up things yet but no excuses, they did get the best of us, at the same time we played well against Marin and Serra which is the truth. Oakland stacked that boz and they brought it, but at thesame time I am glad to see them doing well because I was there a couple yrs ago, so I really love the kids there. And to add Bill teery Smith has done a good job there and you have to think that he has to compete wth hayard high and Mt eden, on gettingtalent as well and San Leandro, and castro valley, so I think he has done well, no metter what you have to say, cuz really who are you and where is ur credibility?
And second of all like I said I don’t care about all this talk on other coaches and all that, cuz first of all I come from the OAL, played in the OAL so I know what Physical football is. And thats what I am trying to help bring at Albany so with all that said i believe we can make some noise in the BSAL and shock some people, especially if teams don’t take us seriously. just like ohigh was down for some year castlemont was down for some time fremont was down, even Tech was down in the early 90′s, and they were able to turn it around, and I know that we can do the same at Albany. But I see coach Creme laughing, cuz he knows how I am and that i will find a way to look at thing from apositive place with our team. but like I said O-High played well, but we did some decent things too! and only those who were their will know so it really does not matter, so Bill you better come and see us this year and we will see what that mouth is doing then,hahaha! it’s all good though bro!
July 20th, 2009 at 1:55 am
I am sorry, just cause your bringing a NEW scheme. Doesn’t prove anything, pleasee, second you guys will be 5th in that league if you call that making noise, I don’t wanna hear a coach from one of the weakest teams in the bsal coming on here talking about how good his team might possibly be. Let the players do the talking, maybe will find out then you can come on here, and talk your mess. Other then that you have ZERO credablity. And you can shut it with the crap talking. Cause queit frankly marin, o high, serra, st pats, encinal, all these teams in the regular season, will handle you pretty dam hard
July 20th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Creme De La Creme-
Are you serious when you say Damonte Horton is better than Aaron Horne ?? You obviously haven’t watched much football. Aaron scored 18 TD’s with only about 60 touches total (catches, runs, punt & kickoff rtns).
He scored a TD something like every 3.7 times he touched the ball in what was probably the most conservative offense in the OAL. He had at least 6 TD’s called back because of a penalties (O-High game included up & go route against Damonte if you remember). He was MVP of the league and MVP of the ACC/County All-Star Game (which by-the-way he had a 90yd punt return for a TD called back). Damonte is a good player and will have a fine career but do your homework before spouting off such statements. I compared Aaron’s numbers to other triple threat players not only around the Bay but also around the country and the only players who had “on average” similar numbers is this kid out of Florida who is going to play for Urban Meyer and the Gators and believe it or not Xavier Milton from Encinal. If Aaron Horne had played in an offense that gets their best player the ball more often than not; he would have put up some un-godly numbers, nevertheless; he still put up better numbers than any OAL player that’s for sure.
July 20th, 2009 at 8:10 am
You know what the wanna be truth, maybe they would maybe they wouldn’t but you talking is only going to make me talk more especially to you! And as far as my credibiity, you don’t need to worry about that because obviously you don’t have any because I could care less who you are or what you think you have done. Plus I don’t need ur approval to say anything,you stick to being a bandwagon cat who likes to run their mouth,a dn you stick with the teams you feel are ood and we can go from their. and if you feel we will be 5th thats fine,what is that suppose to hurt my feelings, nope, don’t think so, do you even coach or do you just talk? Are you just a high school flunkie or what? And I could care less what you want to hear because ur a nobody, the tuth, yeah right! more like the big mouth! Please spare my bro! And stop talking about credibility crap especially if I don’t even know you, and if you don’t know me come see me and find out what I’m about bro, unitl then deal with my comments or don’t get on, and wehre is ur credibility? what have you done? just come to some games then you can holla at me, as for now ur just a Goon with a big mouth!!
July 20th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Your a joke. Look at everything I said, it makes sense. Everything you said was complete gargbage, and you talking out you ass.
July 20th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Yeah yeah! sounds great, and why such foul languge, you really got a problem with me? because man you really need to change the way ur talking bro cuz it aint that serious, so either you have a problem or u don’t if you don’t then you need to chill out, and stop being a punk! If you do have a real problem then I suggest u find another way to handle it! other than that, you can reply to someone else! I’m a footballl coach, and I don’t have time for bluffs like yourself!!!
July 20th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Come on Big Green, I tried to give you your props earlier but now you are sounding a little bit “small”. Did you coach at Emery last year? 0-10 ?????
July 20th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Did you run the offense or were you the Head Coach?
July 20th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Aint nobody trying to win a scrimmage. I am confident not cocky. We only ran three offensive plays against albany. we ran a lead on the first play and our running back was untouched all the way to the end zone. Y not be confident. If you of you guys known me as a player should know. I was a confident player and a competitor. My boys at ohigh have won championships for me for Dynamites. X on our chest. I feel my team is good what wrong wit dat. Im feel like Zo, all this trash talkin makes me want to coach harder.
Im not worried about an X on our chest. I am used to winning. Ive been on Babe ruth World Series championship teams as well as Oakland Dynamites Championship teams as a player and a coach. And Played on TWO Back to bACK silver bowl and Transbay teams. So what do you expexct. Yes MY BOYS ARE CONFIDENT. and they expect to win.
Yes i want to execute in a scrimmage.What team does not want to execute. Like the saying goes<” what you do in practice you will do in a game” So if we ballin in practice, i.e. PAssing League, Scrimmages, chances are we gonna Ballin the game. The little things that people say we need to work on are worked on before we get to passing league and scrimmages. And the things we missed, we see on film. All our passing league, and scrimmages are taped.
To answer your question Mr. Bill Johnson, Albany didnt come close to hanging with us. If you want to check out the film i have it. Just like Coach P told us at Laney, “ThE FILM DONT LIE”
July 20th, 2009 at 10:06 am
I ran the offense and yes I did coach at Emery last year with 13 guys who never played football before, and I had a great time coaching, man that was small potatoes it was a good experience, so what are you trying to say, yeah we did not not win any games but it was bigger than that for thise kids, the school did not even want football and we still made it through the season, we started out with almost 30 kids and we got stripped down to 13. Plus I was aksed to do that job because the coach was fired right before the season started so I just walked into some mess! And even with no wins I had a Qb who never played before throw for 1200 plus yards and 11 TDS. I did one year and got out of there because they would not allow me to do things the way they should have been done. We could not even get practices in half the time because our AD was just finding ways to kill the program. Hey it’s all good thanks for the props, but if you want to renigg on them thats cool too, but for those who know me they know there aint nothing small about me! I’m just me, and the good thing is I’ve been on both sides of this game, the winning and the losing which in the end always makes you better. So OALfan you can trust that my boys at Albany will be ready, and you can also trust that we were no push overs at the marin camp! But like thetruth said even though he’s a goon, the kids will do the talking.
July 20th, 2009 at 11:08 am
big green wats wrong with you terry smith has done nothing. there only 1 good team in that league san leandro. every year smith schedules cupcake non-league then he his league & gets blown out. 0-10 is 0-10 don’t make no excuses u shoulda stay’d on da couch you would’ve won the same amount of games! you’ll be lucky if u guys sniff .500 but just like smith ur playin cupcake m.san jo & that sac school ur play’n is d-7 real small school.albany always plays weak a$$ teams in non-league last year they played emery!
July 20th, 2009 at 11:20 am
big green they hired u as o.c? why? 4 times last year u got a big donut! 70 pts in 10 games against that weak competition. how bout a little defense you guys gave up a 50 burger every week. i know u probably didnt call the defense right? even the school of the deaf put it on you.
July 20th, 2009 at 11:36 am
coach murph you should put that film on youtube so we can laugh at big green! hey big green if they stacked the box y not throw it with the best q.b in da bsal?
July 20th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Big Green,
Sounds like your the one getting a little fired up baby. Chill out with the long paragraphs. The School Of the Death scoreda 50 spot on you? Thats not true? Is it?
July 20th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
First starting off with you Big Green. Stat’s dont lie. If you or any of your teams you coach were any good the records would show. Either show us some statistic or SHUT UP! Stop being a hatter. Lets put the focus back on the boys its not about you or any of these other coaches blogging on here. Stop being childdish and lets focus on something positive. Like getting these boys to COLLEGE. Keep up the hard work Damante this article is still all about you.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Secondly find another blog to do your hatterism on. This is for the supporters of Damante Horton. Not for a Oakland / Emery High re-ject Coach name Green. Go DAMANTE help OAKLAND HIGH bring back home the Silver
July 20th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
First starting off with you Big Green. Stat’s dont lie. If you or any of your teams you coach were any good the records would show. Either show us some statistic or SHUT UP! Stop being a hatter. Lets put the focus back on the boys its not about you or any of these other coaches blogging on here. Stop being childdish and lets focus on something positive. Like getting these boys to COLLEGE. Keep up the hard work Damante this article is still all about you.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
“Will someone please explain the theory that Laney is rolling and sending kids to D1 Schools…please state which D1 school are we referring to.”
To Coach Green here is that list you where asking about when you posed this question that I have reposted above:
TRAVIS FORD – CLAYTON VALLEY – COLORADO ST.
STERLING MOORE – DEER VALLEY – SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIV. (SMU)
OMAR JACOBS – SKYLINE – HOFSTRA
LeROY JOHNSON – SAINEHA (TONGA) – OLD DOMINIION, UNLV, WASHINGTON ST.
JASON MENDIETA – NEWARK – CITADEL
CHIZZY DIMUDE – MT. EDEN – HAWAII
TROY EVANS – HAYWARD – MARSHALL
CHARLES GATLIN – OAKLAND TECH – NORTH CAROLINA ST.
MARK TAYLOR – LOGAN – UNIV. NEVADA-RENO
L.J. HUGHES – DEER VALLEY – UNIV. OF SAN DIEGO 1-AA
And this is off last years team. The year before you had 2 go to UNLV, 1 to Marshall, 1 to Bowling Green, 2 to Stoney Brook (1AA) and that was off the top of my head. And lastly within the last 3 years 2 to Minnesota, another to UNLV (and the NFL), New Mexico St., Idaho…the list goes on!
So I was hoping that question wasnt posed in a manner to say they where sending them to low rated or inferior schools because truth be told for a kid with D1 aspirations they usually dont care how good the school is as long as its D1.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Yes your right about that, players will do the talking, I have a ring. My parts been done, I’ve been playing this game foraslong as I remember I know my xs and os, and ill tell you, that O high, serra, encinal, are real teams. All them teams will win their leagues, and respected sections,
July 20th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
How’s Laney looking this year talent wise?
July 20th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
cali ball can’t go wrong with horne he’s big time. if you asking me to chose give me xavier milton! he went both ways returned punts & kicks i believe he scored 26 td’s. plus he did his damage when it matter’d the most playoff time ask ken peralta. the thing that seperate’s horne ,horton, & milton is what matters the most milton walks around wit a ring!
July 20th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Yeah, you guys are right, stats don’t lie bros, the only thing is that you guys know nothing about me and using the emery season is a waste of time, but anyway u Guys are all right! I am a nobody! Last year I got my butt whipped every week and guess what that don’t mean anything to me as for right now, so like I said to all you haters come see us play and then you can talk. SO with that said all of ur comments are respected but they don’t mount to nothing. Plus i’ve played in the championship and coached in them so please know that Emery and Albany are not the only places I’ve coached! But again. And do da real coach, aint nobody said anything about damante since comments in the 100′s so you shut up and quit band-wagoning, you have’t even been apart of the convo.
July 20th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
And Murph ur right we did not hang with u guys at all, it was a true slobber knocker!!!! We should not have even been on the field! SO everyone, please bet on Encinal for the BSAL they are very talented as well and should mop the floor with us! Ur right again the film don’t lie!
July 20th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Bill Johnson ur funny bro! very very funny!
July 20th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Horne walks around with a ring to !!!
July 20th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
and two win verse Milton !!
July 20th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
OAL STANDING: 2009
1) TECH
2) O-HIGH
3) CASTLE “GRADES”
4) FREMONT
5) MACK
6) SKYLINE
July 20th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
“Grades” JB I know the feeling…
July 20th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
JB bring your show to NCS! Then you’ll get games with whoever you want. Carter dogged you out your home game who’d you get instead St. Liz, Eureka? I thought he was your boy he could have atleast gave you your home game. What really is the problem? Winning an NCS championship is the only way that you’ll get to state. Push all your AD’s to get it done or nobody will ever really take you seriously. Since Beam left & gave your league credibility playing & beating the Logans, St, Francis Foothills, Serra, Monte Vistas, Dorsey, OAL has no crediblity.
July 20th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Hey Green, Keep your head up! I Know it must of been a tough year losing all those games at Emery… Maybe with your new offense you can put enough points on the board to hold of Encinal, Piedmont and St. Marys. I know that you are running the offense who is running the Defense?
July 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
i didnt know they give out rings 4 winning league? come on tech was in the oal plyoffs last year wats that say?
July 20th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
True that i will bring my show to NCS in due time but like a good coach i am learning on the job one most learn how to biuld a program before running a program.
Yes i did lose the game to Berkeley by 8 with only 23 players and i didn’t get a home game but whats new in East Oakland things change each day. We keep moving and getting better each day.
CASTLEMONT PRIDE !!!
July 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
DOES ANYONE HAVE LAS LOMAS HEAD COACH #
July 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
coach jb wat r u doin play’n st.liz? i hope u slap up salesian. knightgale has no balls! i don’t know who ducks more good teams him or peronon. u ever tried 2 get a game against o’dowd?
July 20th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
DLongero@acalanes.k12.ca.us or (925)280-3920 ext.2219
July 21st, 2009 at 12:28 am
My guy Calhoun! We will be fine though, and honestly it was very tough at Emery but still had a great time.
And JB you’re doing a great job bro! Much respect to ya! I have that film you needed too!plus we’re at marin tomorrow with Mack, Berkeley, Serra, Marin, and St.Liz. Should be a good one!!!
July 21st, 2009 at 12:28 am
And coach Creme, you the best bro!
July 21st, 2009 at 1:29 am
Caliball……Yes I have watched/played and coach lol..And the game from last year that catch was called back and that was the only catch he had all game and Mr Horton was locked up on him all game…So now lets look at the numbers?
Receiving
1ST Damante Horton G.10 REC.37 YARDS.571 AVG.15.4 TDS 8
4TH Aaron Horne G.10 REC.21 YARDS.483 AVG.23.0 TDS.9
Scoring
1ST Aaron Horne G.10 Tds.18 Fg.0 2PT.3 PAT.0 TOT.114
2ND Damante Horton G.10 TDS.13 FG.0 2PT.3 PAT.0 TOT.84
Rushing
8TH Damante Horton G.10 RUSH.54 YARDS.452 AVG.8.4 TDS.3
10TH Aaron Horne G.10 RUSH.29 YARDS.385 AVG.13.3 TDS.4
Number wise they are not to far a part from each other but Damante was a junior and did what he did ..You can’t go wrong with either like I said they are both very special players.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:17 am
I have to agree here people! Both players are very good, and have bright futures!
July 21st, 2009 at 3:26 am
Hey da real coach, your just as much of a reject coach if ur responding to me! And when was I Hatin! Thats what I never do. Disagreeing does not mean u hate. But ur right I am a reject! Good at it too!!!
July 21st, 2009 at 9:38 am
I coached both Horne and Damonte. Both are great players and i dont think you can say who is the best. Damonte still has one more year, and his stats this year will be alot better than last year. As far as kick returns, teams did not even kick the ball in the direction of Damonte. JB is right, horne is very explosive and with more touches, aint no tellin what his numbers would have been. I am grateful to have coached both players. JB you are doign a great job at Castlemont.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:12 am
any news on HAAL teams?
I graduated from San Lorenzo in 05, just wanting to know how the team gonna look dis year
July 21st, 2009 at 12:40 pm
listen up anyone from b-high,mack or st.liz that were at the scrimmage 2day blog in let us know wat happen. cuz big green gonna be on here lyin like he did bout they hung wit o-high then back peddle no we hung wit serra n marin. i can’t wait 4 albany-campo game will seen then my spinless friend. hope u guys can make it a game!
July 21st, 2009 at 12:49 pm
big green cal preps got u guys as a 37 point underdog against campo damn! i just bet my buddy from campo $50 you guys would cover don’t let me down. i’m thinking 31-6 campo
July 21st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Giant Green, oh my bad BIG GREEN. Back to me band-wagoning. I’ve been reading your non-sense comments since the begining. Lets not take this back to commemnt 100. Let take it to the top of the article, dont the name reads Damante, nothing else. So commments 1-400′s should be about him and not how good you think weak *** Albany is gonna be or how other coaches in the area do their job. Say what, Now you SHUT-UP!
July 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
HAAL FAN THIS IS MY FIRST FOOTBALL POST SINCE NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT BASKEBALL. BUT SL FOOTBALL IS LOOKING GOOD WITH LENNY JONES COMING BACK FOR A 5TH YEAR. CHRIS MUSNI IS THE STARTING QB HE IS OK. BUT HAAL IS FAIRLY WEAK THIS YEAR IN MY OPINION FOR FOOTBALL.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Hey BJ we couldn’t get anyone to play us so St.Liz stepped up to the plate..no one want’s to come to Castle because they know it’s a hornet’s nest..as for the school on the hill above Castle we tried “too many” times to no avail but Salesian did give us a home and away we split with them Nightingale say’s he’ll go anywhere, anyplace like Coach Hill at FSU he meant that too!! So he has my respect, he also played at Mack last year.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Hey E_Culb that’s an impressive list I didn’t mean anything by that questioned I posed it was more curiosity. If you look on any NFL roster at least 30% of the colleges are small or un-recognizable so I understand…have you preached any sermons lately let know for the next one i’ll come.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
you would think after almost five hundred postings, i might learn some more about Damante Horton. All I have really learned is that if you are a private school or HAAL you either “legally” recruit or you suck. Oh and that OAL is the God of football, probably the other sports, too. Congrats Damante and good luck. Although I am not part of OAL I am still proud to see a bay kid make it to the next level.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
It’s all good Coach Green, I actually did this past Sunday but I will keep you posted in the future.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:54 pm
OAL STANDING: 2009
1) TECH
2) O-HIGH
3) CASTLE “GRADES”
4) FREMONT
5) MACK
6) SKYLINE
JB you funny!! LOL remember the OAL really heats up after game to of the league cause that’s when the “grades” go in!! But Mack 5th huh? Remember what I said to you after you killed us, and I’m not there but my theory still stands!
July 21st, 2009 at 6:13 pm
why no love for fremont? they only lost to castle in the oal. did they lose alot of talent? every prediction has them no better than 4th. tech must have been young last year cause they stunk it up last year now there preseason favorite.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:24 pm
coach jb you say you’ll bring your show to ncs does that mean if carter leaves for c.c you’ll apply at your alma mater? or you got your eyes on another school?
July 21st, 2009 at 7:05 pm
fremont has good players also.. robert allen, and his brother rahshawn plus they have a samoan guy who can play. give some respect
July 21st, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Mr. bill
I think the albany did a find job on the first day. if you want to know more ,come
to marin for the second day and witness “king of the mountain”
July 21st, 2009 at 9:01 pm
jacketfan rank the teams at the camp. who look good? wat where teams runnin?
July 21st, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Bill it is very hard to rank them on the bases of the first day.
each one of them found something positive on offense and d. marin runs a wing flying veer. the others power formations {split/I}
spread. what are you looking for?
July 21st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
jacketfan how did b-high & serra match up?
July 21st, 2009 at 9:14 pm
bill: serra no show
July 21st, 2009 at 9:17 pm
jacketfan wat bout b-high & marin who got the better of each other or did both offense’s dominate?
July 21st, 2009 at 9:23 pm
bill: it is not about who got the better over the other. B-high staff is more interested in player evaluations and looking at the back ups progress.
July 21st, 2009 at 9:27 pm
jacketfan i understand that somethings will look good some not just asking wat worked? wat did u see that u like? did marin run effective against u guys?
July 21st, 2009 at 9:33 pm
bill: I liked the effort the projected starters brought to the table, new guys have not seen to many teams that run the veer, so it is great prep for them to understand and defend (Dela)
July 21st, 2009 at 9:34 pm
jaketfan who you guys got in non-league besides pitt & freedom?
July 21st, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Bill: the jackets have been invited to play in the nike classic 9-5-09 in sac. and castro valley
July 21st, 2009 at 9:47 pm
jacketfan who would be your opponent in sac.? you should beat castro valley but if pitt comes in 3-0 against you guys u have no chance . u seen there non-league?
July 21st, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Coach Murphy, I get off work early tomorrow(Wednesday)… I want to check out your practice… You guys gonna practice at O-High at 4p??? I heard you guys practice at that school on 29th by the Fruitvale Station mini shopping center. Is that true? Let me know.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Bill: the name of the team has slip my mind, but they were 2007 leauge champs that beat Grant in 2007. Bill,some back ground on on the Jackets, pitt has 3,000 students, berkeley also. pitt has a proud football tradition, berkeley too.
pitt has to prepare,
berkeley too. pitt could be 0-3 they are a true test for the jackets.
the jackets are preparing for their first game,and will not worry about pitt until it is time for pitt.Bill don’t you expect your pro team to get to the super bowl every year? that is why the game is played!!!!
July 21st, 2009 at 10:17 pm
jacketfan your right they could be 0-3 & still be a very good team just say’n if there 3-0 they’ll be pretty damn good. keep it real though jacketfan it’s time for berkeley 2 step up & beat a team the caliber of pitt.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:30 pm
bill: you sound like a pitt fan.
berkeley has been taken growth
steps every time they meet. if they give there best (players/coaches)they should have a good season. If you need to see b-high, come to marin on wed, to answer all your questions.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:39 pm
jacketfan if you dont beat pitt your whole season is on the line when u play pinole. if b-high wants respect it’s gonna have to earn it by beating a good d-1 team! know cares if u beat castro valley. it’s been 10 years since b-high has won in ncs. so when your talkin berkeley football tradition u must be talkn bout a long time ago.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Bill:yes 10 has been a long time, but i think they are a lot closer now then they were 10 yrs ago, even one year. b-high tradition is in the ncs record books
the only team that has won more championships that dela is berkeley.what might it be if ncs didn’t suspened the games.bill you have to play one game at a time, why are you looking so far ahead?
do you coach or looking for black board material? Bhigh is preparing to do there best,and that will determind how well they play.to answer your d1 remark. freedom, pitt,o-week game to replace j-logan.like cal and stanford berkeley has to respect the teams in the accal. ec and pinole can beat some teams that are d1 schools. we will know in a few more weeks when all teams line up for kick off.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:17 pm
why does b-high’s season have to be on the line against pinole if they dont beat pitt? EC gave them a great game last,(they were winning with three minutes to go) year so we should expect nothing less from them.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:24 pm
jacketfan you guys aint won ncs since 1930 come on u can’t compare yourselves with de la salle.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:44 pm
“493″ My eye is on biulding Castlemont to a strong program that can put a winning team on the field every year.
Castlemont pride !!
July 21st, 2009 at 11:51 pm
“491″ I heard you but you said it as if you where going to be there and I told you my team comes back also and we will no longer be step on by any one.
Mack has good coaching and I respect them over there but we will not be scared when we come to the West !!
P.S I wish you was there so i can even the score !!!
CASTLEMONT PRIDE !!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:01 am
coach jb so your not bring your show to ncs? ncs playoffs is where it’s at. u play the bay’s best in ncs playoffs not a 3-7 oakland tech team. silver bowl is nothing more than a league championship. anyways carter claims he still runs the oal cause he beat you guess that makes b-high the silver bowl champs!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 am
How did Albany do against Mack? Big Green where you at???
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:15 am
I heard Mack was not there!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:16 am
JB stop responding to this foolishness, these cats are cowards!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:48 am
I can fall into that but i won’t but you no what if thats the case i Beat Skyline and Mack 1996 so that makes me the only person to win one as a player and a coach. And beat the to kings of the Oal.
For the record O-high and Fremont had 8 or more wins !!
Everyone moves on in time I can say I won’t be coaching High School for 10 or more years. I’m young and like every young coach we have dream.
Castlemont Pride !!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:49 am
Bill: berkeley does not have to compare themseleves with dela.berkeley is the most hated high school in the bay. so berkeley only compares itself with its self.
bill you don’t seem to know b-high very well. football is the only program that had more changes than any other sport,
3 coach’s in the last 10yrs. current coach
has transformed the additude of the school,
has had his weight program in for the last three yrs. (current team). has a team with a high football I.Q.,they spent more time with X.s and O.s, they don’t have to spent time teaching how to get in a 3 pt-stand.
bill, b-high will give their best that is expected. bill come to marin see for yourself, the game is played by the kids not the coaches. so i look forward to meeting you and talk football eye to eye.
marin 4:00pm. oh if need transportation to marin hit the site sos . and I will come and get you. you can answer all your questions by coming to marin. se ya
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:57 am
jb: you are doing a good job at cast.
don,t let these people drag you into
defending your program.they need to do some push up ha ha ha ha.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 am
hey coach jb oakland played know one last year & fremont played a weak non-league except for pittsburg. they lost 41-0! it’s obvious that the oal’s best just don’t match up with other top programs in the bay. alota questions will be answered in non-league just hope the oal is up 4 the challenge.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:09 am
jacketfan every year berkeley talks it but never walks it. no way a school like berkeley should be in a 10 year drought. when was the last time berkeley beat a quality opponent in non-league?
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:20 am
jacketfan since ’01 here’s berkeley’s record against foothill,logan,hayward,pitt,monte vista,deer valley & de la 1-16 that includes wat was probably your best team recently the ’02 team but they got beat 24-0 to hayward in ncs at HOME.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:17 am
Hey Bill Johnson, watch out for MACK!! The have a new coach that is going to bring back that MACK Fire. His name is Curtis McCulley he was the OC at the Castle last year and used to be the head coach at O-high.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:27 am
oal fan when was he head coach at o-high? cuz they had some lean years til last season.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
He was there when Big Green was the OC I think it was the year before last.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:33 am
oal fan how many 0-10 seasons has big green been a part of?! how many seasons where they at o-high?
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:38 am
One year..
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:40 am
From what I hear Mc Culley is the “truth”. He was part of the coaching staff when MACK won the silver bowls with Alonzo Carter. Also he turned help turn around Castlemont’s offense.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:43 am
oal fan u mean 2 tell me big green is 0-20 the last 2 years? y did mcCulley leave o-high? hope mack can beat skyline that had 2 be embarassing losin 2 them. skyline was terrible plus mack got shutout at home to weaka$$ salesian
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:48 am
Yes… Big Green hasn’t won a game in two years! As you know he runs the offense for Albany and he says they might have a chance to win the league. MACK WILL BEAT skyline.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:57 am
oal fan big green has alota nerve talk’n bout winning league when he’s 0-20. why would albany hire this yahoo? his offense averages 9 pts a game the last 2 years.
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:04 pm
big green the streak should end at 21 but if u lose to mission san jo you should retire. call me when the streak is over will pop the champagne!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Did anyone see the scrimmage with B-high Albany, Marin Caltholic, Serra and MACK?
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
“527″ Curtis was the DC of Castlemont Coach JB was the OC.
CASTLEMONT PRIDE !!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
“524″ Take a look at all the OAL schools and are records verse the teams in are level then come holla at me because all the teams you pointed pointed out are bigger D-1 teams. But ha no excuses !! The OAL plays 4 to five d-1 power teams a year now if we combin three teams and make it a two team league and join the NCS then the Power teams in the area would be up shi… creek.
CASTLE D-2 berkeley,
MACK D-4 PINOLE
SKY D-2 FOOTHILL
FREMONT D-3 PITT
O-HIGH D-2 SAN RAMON
tech d-1
P.s The Zo Mack teams would have won state back,back,back if he played all d-4 teams .
CASTLMONT PRIDE !!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
y saint liz back out the camp !!
CASTLMONT PRIDE !!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Coach JB, My mistake I thought he was the DC.. Do you think that you will have a chance against MACK without Coach Mc Culley?
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Sorry again mean I thought he was the OC!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I think we have a good chance they have a good team and a coaching staff that knows what there doin.
But we play with a 20 year chep and we are still tring to prove are self and that what makes us.
p.s I won the OAL in 2007 and 30 sec from a second silver bowl.
Castlemont Pride!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
516. Yeah it would have been nice to get it on with an experienced team! And it was a pleasure to play with you, against you, and to coach against you we thought a lot alike.
By the way congrats I spoke to Payton he told me the news. Thats great bruh make it work!
July 22nd, 2009 at 5:11 pm
ha ha ha is st. liz is hella scary just like st. pats
July 22nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
JB no way Zo was beating that loaded school from LA that had like 11 D-1 with the QB that went to Notre Dame. I don’t think he would beat any of the Cardinal Newman teams. Not beating that team last year that beat Cardinal Newman they only lost to Long Beach Poly there has already been a lot of talk on Carter’s record against LA teams. In reality (& I definitely support Northern Cali I’m from here) we haven’t held it down against the South. We’re 2-9 in Bowl games & that includes De La only 1-2. We gotta get it done on the field.
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
What other programs are making a turn around? It sounds like the OAL has took a complete U-turn but what other schools (that are not in the OAL) are starting to make a name?
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
coach jb when beam was at skyline he was beat’n foothill,logan,monte vista, & other top programs. you can’t compare ncs playoffs to a bunch of rematches in the oal playoffs. tech couldnt even beat mt. diablo last year. jb you do a good job keep it up but like zo til you prove it in ncs playoffs the jury is out.
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
i see a bunch of oakland people, and Berkeley people arguing and talking on here. These are the facts
the oal is horrible, it was good a while ago but last 4-5 years have been down. Maybe not horrible, thats too strong, but the OAL isnt good.
and B high, just stop talking, you play in the worst league in Northern CA, have a giant enrollment, tons of athletes and still cant beat anybody
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Are you serious don’t talk about the quarterback from notre dame like he was the truth, the mack teams was way more talented, they had about 11 d1 players them selfs, and remeber cardinal newman almost beat them too, in state, so please, get that fact straight, nor cals been picking some horrible teams to go down their,
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Keep it real man. I’ll tell you the TRUTH! The Mac team in 2005 before there was a State play-off got zeroed to 31 for Dorsey that your talking about. The 06 team got zeroed to 42 for Crenshaw & beat by Madera another team from South who was only the 3rd best team in their league. I’m not trying to sound like BillJohnson but keep it real. De La is the best team we have in the North nobodies disputing that they haven’t lost to a team in the Northern Cali in 17 years & they haven’t gotten it done in the Bowl game. Those De La teams in the late 90′s with NFL players wouldn’t have lost to any Southern team but they aren’t gettin those kind of boys any more.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Yeah in 05, they did get beat 31 zero by dorsey BUT they beat crenshaw that year and crenshaw beat dorsey that year, so theirs the TRUth! For u, and name one good team in d4 that year in the 06 year that could of beat em? Get your facts straight ur a joke to me too lol which gets to my point the north never gets its righttt, when it comes to picking teams
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:50 am
There was no D4 that year Jerk Off they started that last year. OAKS Christin or Cardinal Newman are easily beating that MAC team. WE GOT ZEROED BUT WE BEAT A TEAM THAT BEAT THEM BY 6?? What a loser attitude. Getting zeroed is like being hung. Like they weren’t even there. Never should happen to any dominant team.
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:39 am
Thanks E
CASTLMONT PRIDE !!
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:44 am
the truth mack tied liberty in ’06 & they were 0-9-1.
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
the truth the best team mack beat in ’06 was skyline. skyline got whopped by logan 42-20. guess who beat logan that year yup cardinal newman 31-13! in ’06 o-hig made the playoffs at 1-9-1 that tells all you need 2 know bout oal playoffs.
July 23rd, 2009 at 12:17 pm
All great points, but what I am trying to say is, what if they were division 4? They easily would of got state titles, that’s my arguement, and perkins yes your a joke I can’t belive u said that, yess they lost to dorsey, but they beat a team that beat dorsey, so I really don’t wanna hear it, u need to go research. I can hella tell you did, that year dorsey beat mack, is when usc running back stafaon johnson had one of his greatest showings, and mack wasn’t fired up (don’t get me wronf I still thing the oal, aint got jack on ncs, that’s where the TRUE test is at)
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
the truth well wat happen in ’04 when dorsey beat mack? along with the donut doresy gave mack in ’05 crenshaw came back with 42-0 of there own in ’06. in ’03 bellarmine & valley christian gave mack 2 more donuts. that’s alot donuts 4 a so called dominate teams.you would think with all these d-1 athletes mack had they would be competitive in every game but like i said avg. score was 32-9. u tell me scheme or players?
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Mr. Bill Johnson…. Did you go to the scrimmage in Marin yesterday and see the new OAL powerhouse MACK and the ACCL Division champs Berkeley High? I don’t know why you don’t their coaches Props. Both Coach Carter and Coach Mc Culley have won many championships in the OAL and the ACCL. Watch what happens this year.
MACK FAMILY!
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Bill Johnson, what point are you trying to make when you say scheme or players? I got a question for you. What coach won the All Star Game last week? I rest my case…
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Like I been saying all along, all those teams you mentioned don’t play d4, mack would of beat any d4 schools , and secondly, mack for sure had the most talent, just not a good coach, a lot of teams have good talent just not a good coaach, just look at the accal, or haal. And the oal, with the exception of castlemont and o high and fremont,
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:26 pm
if teams from the accal and haal played, would berkeley vs san leandro be a tight game? I would be interested in that matchup
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
what’s SL gotta do to make it to NCS, and would they be seeded above berkeley because their league is stronger?
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:28 pm
I guess maybe not, since their nonleauge is all out of section. but the pirates should do fairly well? i dont think they surprise bellarmine or valley christian-san jose, but you never know
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
didn’t srv beat skyline a few years ago? what was the score. how well will ohs’ receivers do since they’re on the road for srv’s home opener
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:26 pm
carter gets too much credit for being a good coach. His entire career he has had much better talent than the competition. He isnt a very good coach and hasnt done anything really, even with the D-1 kids he has had. he is a great recruiter (even though it is illegal and he got BUSTED for it his first year at Berkeley)
having MJ and Kobe makes Phill jackson look like a great coach too…
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Hey I just found out about this blog! What’s the big issue going on here.I have seen football in the Oal for a while now and it seems like this year is wide open! What do you guys think about this kids Horton, and big congrats to him, do you guys feel he is the best skill player in the OAL? It seems like it!
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 pm
the truth in’06 there was no d-4 state so mack would have 2 play d-3 state. they aint beat’n dat cardnial newman team that q.b was a stud. oal fan you tell me why they weren’t competitive in those games i mentioned scheme or players?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:02 am
oal fan i did not go tell me wat happend at marin? oal fan tell me if u had to win a game who’s coach’n ur team carter or beam?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Bill Johnson, four of the five games that you mentioned were away games two of which were in Los angeles. Try riding a bus for eight hours stay up until 3:30am and then try and play a football game.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Bill Johnson how come you didn’t respond to my question? What coach won the Contra Costa Alameda All Star game??? I rest my case!
July 24th, 2009 at 12:10 am
That’s easy, Coach Carter!!!! Take away the “Flat Land” East Oakland, out of district kids that Beam got every year and he would be lucky to win two games a season.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:18 am
oal fan more excuses u can’t run away from 2-17. either u get it done or u don’t thats life. early prediction pitt 23 berkeley 7
July 24th, 2009 at 12:24 am
oal fan your NUTS! beam beat dorsey foothill monte vista logan st.francis come on carter never came close to beat’n those teams he beat crenshaw once 14-8 & logan last year the rest he got molly whopped! didnt beam win like 40 in a row n da oal?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:25 am
hello!
July 24th, 2009 at 12:26 am
Beam getting kids that are not in is district is not an excuses it’s a fact. Since you won’t answer me, COACH CARTER WON THE ALL STAR GAME. Early prediction berkeley 28 pitt 14 . RICKY GALVIN!!!
July 24th, 2009 at 12:36 am
oal fan u ever heard of mario cox 3 years at el cerrito senior year at mack. come on the kid didnt move from e.c if you wanna talk outta district. i.ve seen b-high q.b he wont get it done when teams stack the box plus there’s nothing special at wr either. hope 2 play san leandro logan washington of fremont or college park in ncs cuz b-high aint got wat it takes 2 beat any school from da ebal or pitt.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:42 am
I noticed you failed two mentioned The 295lbs average offensive line that berkeley has nor did you mention the best running back in the Bay Area. I know that the QB is young but Coach Carter has that “smash mouth football” working! ( watch the all star) tape and you will get the idea of what berkeley is going to do this year.
July 24th, 2009 at 12:44 am
Wouldn’t you leave el cerrito and go to MACK for football. If I am not mistaken Mario got a full football scholarship to Hawaii. Coach Carter dose it again!
July 24th, 2009 at 12:52 am
oal fan they ran the ball 34 for 91 thats less than 3 yds a carry!smash mouth? horne busted early an zo sat on the ball & milk’t it thats wat i saw a real boring game. so wats ur complaint bout beam gettin outta district kids when you know mack did too?
July 24th, 2009 at 12:56 am
oal fan u said an “idea of wat berkeley’s gonna do” yeah right berkeley couldn’t complete a slant 2 save the lives or stop one saw slow a$$ alameda runnin slants on them in the laney tournament in june.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:08 am
oal fan aint kids play’n outta district an oal tradition like the silver bowl?
July 24th, 2009 at 4:55 am
Bill: june was early,what is your read on b-high in july since you feel they can’t throw the ball. explain to me what you like or dislike about the wr’s(speed,hands,patterns,scheme) what would you like to see? talk to me coach!!!!!
July 24th, 2009 at 9:52 am
jacketfan i didnt say they couldn’t throw i said they aint throw’n no slant! no real burners at wr plus not much height. can’t be 1 dimensional if you want 2 advance in ncs d-1. wats been goin on at the marin scrimmage?
July 25th, 2009 at 12:18 am
HAAL Prediction
1 San Leandro
2 Hayward High
3 Bishop Odowd
4 Arroyo
5 San Lorenzo
6 Castro Valley
7 Mt. Eden
8 Tennyson
July 25th, 2009 at 9:21 am
i hope this season o’dowd fans wait till playoffs before they pop off. last year all they did was talk & wat happen in the playoffs…28-0 at halftime 2 marin catholic at HOME! big green u jacka$$ u don’t even know where 2 blog! i heard berkeley shreded albany at the scrimmage!
July 25th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Berkeley and Mack look good at the camp !!
July 26th, 2009 at 12:47 am
That’s what I heard too Billyboy! Man you care about me so much don’t you? Thanks for the attention! Now get off my jock if I’m that bad,otherwise make sure you come to the games and root for me!
July 26th, 2009 at 12:50 am
Bill Johnson please since u’ve become the ultimate hater,make sure you come to the campo game sir, and we can talk then. Wait! Do you have a car? Or a job? Do you need me to pay ur way into the game? I gotcha, cuz ur my number 1 fan bro!
July 26th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Hey Mr Johnson, why are you on this cat so much? you guys are suppose to be talking about the kid from Oakland High.
July 26th, 2009 at 12:59 am
It does seem like you are hating on alot of people on here Bill Johnson from ur past comments, and I just got on here, what’s up with you? Ur hatin on the coach from Berkeley, from the OAL and others. Do you lack self confidence or what?
July 26th, 2009 at 1:21 am
Hey brandon ouch!! that one hurts right in the gut…hey you got to call them as you see them…hey billy it seems b-beard has a point come out to any oal school to see what we have to work with then you will lighten up a little bit…it’s real easy to shoot at cars from an overpass or dissing inner-city coaches in other words anyone can pop off when you’re looking at something from a distance.
July 26th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
big green u have no chance against campo! coach green, brandon beard wat i’ve said are facts! u can’t dispute it if so wats your arguement? tell me where i’m wrong? big green the streak will reach 21! book it 0-21.
July 26th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Big Green,
How did you do against MACK and B-High?
July 26th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Forget campo, I can’t wait till what encinal does to those lil kids in albany, man if I was coaching the pirates crusaiders, or danamites of pop warner, I’d be soo happy if I played albany haha, I honesly think a really good jv team can beat you guys. (Sorry that it hurts)
July 26th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
coach green wat do u mean “come see wat we have to work with”. that u have no talent? sh1t! oal is loaded with talent but some how coach beam was the only one who could mold talent to compete with the bay’s best. i’m i wrong? oal hasn’t been gettin it done in non-league lately. castlemont won league & wasnt even ranked in the top 10 east bay.
July 26th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
oal fan where did big green coach in ’07? i’m pretty sure that team lost it’s last game so the streak may already be at 21!
July 26th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
oal fan i meant ’06.
July 26th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
BillJohnson, come on man… Beam did an excellent job at Skyline… Coach Carter did an excellent job at MACK… Let’s not forget though, I would be surprised if MACK’s actual enrollment is larger than 1,000 students. What Zo did with that is remarkable. He turned a perenial basketball school into a football hotbed. Give credit where credit is due. There’s enough negativity about Oakland on the news… We don’t need you too.
July 26th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Now… My theory on OAL football is this: The talent in Oakland is spread so thin between 6 public schools and O’Dowd that it’s going to be awfully hard to have multiple OAL schools dominant in the area. Once one school starts to lead the pack all the pop warner talent tends to migrate towards that school… It’s cyclical… Skyline and Oakland High had their run, Fremont had a mini run in the late 90′s to mid 2000′s… MACK did their thing, then Tech had the Marshawn era… Now it looks like Castlemont is head of the class. We wouldn’t be having this convo if the OAL was combined into 2 or 3 schools… And trust me, if there were TWO schools; one coached by Zo, the other by Beam… There would be no De La! But it’s not so pessimist like you BillJohnson get to talk trash. At least you bring the facts though. I appreciate that at least.
July 26th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Ken Edwards, you said it best! I agree if there were only two schools in OAL they would be unbeatable.
July 26th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Bill Johnson, I don’t know how long Big Green has been coaching but I think he was only at Emery for One year. He seems to think that he is going to turn around the Albany program.
July 27th, 2009 at 12:21 am
So is that suppose to hurt my feelings? it’s not working bro I coach for the kids man, not for recognition, and yes i do believe that we can turn it around at Albany, and why is that so worng to you, get off it and do you! And don’t worry about where i was in 07′ you will know one day. Plus coach Beam did a great job at Skyline, one of the best coaches around, but there are other good coaches who have done grt jobs as well, so stop the hatin on here and get real. it’s easy to criticize from a far, but what are you a kid or something? who cares, I lost games as a coach, and guess what bro, i won alot as well, so don’t even talk like you know me bro, cuz you have no idea.
July 27th, 2009 at 12:29 am
And to the truth, once again how old are you cuz you talking like ur 7 or something. I’m a grown man bruh and ur 2 cent comments mean nothing, and once again ur talking pop warner shows that ur very immature. And I guess it’s too bad u arent coaching cuz obviously all you do is talk, pop warner, give me a break man! And make sure you come to the Encinal game please! It will be a great game, Coach Tenorio has a great team! Unlike you. And stop jocking me bro, remember i am a bad coach so why even speak on me right! you need me to buy ur ticket too Thetruth, can u pay ur way in! if not let me know!
July 27th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Honest to god BIGGREEN even tho I think your a jerk. I have nothing BUT respect for u. I mean what’s wrong with a coach having some confidence. Now of days? I mean I took a chance to read some of the things you wrote. I don’t think u were ever hating, I HONESTLY hope u guys doo good. Really I doo.
July 27th, 2009 at 2:18 am
It’s all good. And we do have our hands full over at Albany, but somebody has to step to the challenge and try to build a program that will help the kids. And trust me I know it’s important to win football games, but one thing I can say about being at Emery last season is that all my seniors graduated and are enrolled in college for this fall, all 8 of them. So as long as I can help a kid stay off the streets and do something with their life I win and they win.
July 27th, 2009 at 2:23 am
And to OAL FAN, we competed against Berkeley and Mack, but they got the best of us for the most part, but we were able to do some good things at times though, we have alot of work to do. But that’s what the camp was for, to work on the little things and go back and take at look and find ways to correct the mistakes. But we are farther along than we were last season, so it will take some time, but I think by the time we get to league we will have things on point. The first day we did alot better against both teams, but you know we are not that deep so the second day we were a little tired it seemed.
July 27th, 2009 at 2:34 am
Man and I never said we would win the league I said I thought we could make some noise in the league and shock some people, and I stand by that! What coach wouldn’t say their team would be able to compete. Man I’m just trying to get better like everyone else!
July 27th, 2009 at 5:09 am
Just for the record to the O.A.L. having two schools and then being super powers, just know that it would not be the O.A.L. then. It would probably be in the NCS. But remember its not the schools or the talent being spread thin, there was a time when all six was flooded with talent, when you had to go to school in the area you stayed in. Meaning all kids that stayed in West Oakland went to the Mack house!! One of the few problems is charter schools, hoop dreams, and a lack of youth playing sports starting at a young age. Thats where you learn discipline and to accept coaching.
July 27th, 2009 at 9:55 am
DVAL has 0 speed. The only thing the DVAL has is a good home field advantage. They hire terrible ref’s and get all the calls.
July 27th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Big Green,
You guys going to win a game this year. St. Pats, Encinal, Piedmont might score 30+ against you. Thats a lot of points brotha.
How do you plan on stopping Piedmonts new and improved A-11 offense.
July 27th, 2009 at 10:49 am
E_Culb: I feel the same way about charter schools, hoop dreams, and a lack of youth playing sports. Starting at a young age learning discipline and to accept coaching. I can remember when youth sports was a big deal in Oakland Babe Ruth Baseball, Dynamites, Cougars Football and Running Rebels, Nor Cal Basketball…. Along with Oakland Park and Rec sports.
Team sports at a early age are very important….
July 27th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Culberson,
You and I need to be the head (directors)of Oakland Park and Recreation Department.
July 27th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
kenny edwards i respect ur opinion i’ve made my point with facts i’ll chill on the oal unless someone wants 2 dispute the facts!. big green wat does turn around mean? .500, above .500, wat playoffs? u gonna beat those catholic schools in ur league? u are the biggest school in da league so y no league titles?
July 27th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Reggie Hammond, man all I can say is that we are going to do what we can to make the team better than we were last season. Against Piedmont we will have to worry about that when the week comes up.
Bill you make a great point we are the biggest school in the league, and we have to do a better job of getting the players to compete on a high level, and like I said I’m just getting there so improving from last year to me is turn it around for this year. I think being above .500 would be a great accomplishment for the fact that Albany has not had a winning season in over 20 years. And it takes time to turn a program around. Alot of guys know what I mean!
July 27th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
kenny edwards zo did a helluva job at mack but beam not only competed against the bay’s best he beat most of them & that’s the difference between beam & carter. the oal should combine tech & mack – fremont & o-high – skyline & castle bring in berkeley & o’dowd and there’s your 5 team league. who would be the favorite?
July 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
hey murdoc
the DVAL doesnt have as much speed as oakland but their are some fast kids, but the OAL lines cant compete with the DVAL OL/DL and the coaching is an absolute joke compared to the DVAL. The top 5 DVAL teams would win the OAL easy. Concord came in 4th in league last year and beat the OAL champs in castlemont
and Mt. Diablo has just as much speed as anyone from the OAL. I saw them scrimmage Castlemont and absolutely man handle them the second day of their scrimmage and that was without multiple starters. The MD DL and Lbs were coming in almost untouched and making plays in the backfield. And when MD got on O , not even castlemont could handle the speed of the devils ground game. MDs sweeper/WR is one of the fastest kids in all of CA
July 27th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
correction the concord castlemont game ended in a tie
July 27th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
“The coaching is an absolute joke compared to the DVAL” lol okay
July 27th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Big Green. I wish you nothing but success. High school Football is all about building Young Men. Having said that,My advice to you is To just continue building your program and help the student athletes progress to the next stage of their lives. Lastly. Believe in the kids but it might be a good idea not to make any statements that they might not be able live up to. Just let the pads do the talking on the field. Jet Pride is Bay area wide!
July 27th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Has anyone heard anything on the status of the athletics in the MDUSD? The last I heard they were talking about going to a pay to play format and had already lost some good athletes to moves or transfers.
July 27th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Yea Buddy: what happened the first day of your scrimmage? I bet they handled you right? Get off these camps they mean nothing win your first game. Your schedule is pathetic you should easily go 4-1 non-league & 7-3 overall if you have the players you claim If Mt. Diablo has athletes anything like Castlemont or any OAL school they shoud win that league every year or atleast have a winning record.
July 27th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
MD has athletes but from what i have seen in the past has problems getting kids to come to practice and grade issues. Everyone in the OAL is eligible so you dont really have that problem, thats why you arent in NCS cuz pretty much anyone can play anywhere they want
oh and the first day of the camp it was closer, MD was just a little better, but the second day flat out dominated Castlemont on both sides of the ball. Castlemont isnt bad, but you cant really compare the OAL to any actual real football leagues, 5 years ago you had an argument, now you have nothing.
And winning takes much more than having athletes, (ask coach carter) , if it came down to just the kids then the oakland schools would be great, im not doubting your athleticism. I saw the Tech -MD game last year and Tech looked like a D-1 team, but their coaching lost them the game.
Go Red Devils!
MD Alumni Class of ’74
July 27th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
and yes MDUSD will be doing an optional pay to play for its athletes. They can not make it mandatory because of title 9. And i do not know your sources but as far as i can tell from the threads on this site and local buzz around concord/clayton/pleasant hill, none of the star players have moved or transfered
July 27th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Yeabuddy,
Just because Tech had a down year last year means nothing… If I were you I wouldn’t be poppin off about a team that wasn’t very good last year either! As far as the coaches in the OAL, it takes much more than X’s and O’s to make a great coach. Look at Coach Carter and Coach Beam both coaches are known nationwide. Besides that famous coach from DELA and Pardi there are no coaches out that way that have amounted to anything.
July 27th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Yeabuddy, What do you mean that everybody in the OAL is eligible?
July 27th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
I second that question OAL FAN… How is everybody eligible in the OAL… Yeabuddy, you obviously have spent ZERO minutes in OAL athletics… Report card day is an OAL coaches’ worst nightmare.
July 27th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
BillJohnson, I take nothing away from Beam… He did a tremendous job at Skyline and like I said before I played for him in an All Star game and the man can motivate! However, ask anyone familiar w/ Oakland and they’ll tell you it’s easier to get parents to allow their children to attend school on a hill in the richest parts of Oakland than it is to allow their children to attend a small school in West Oakland like McClymonds. Hats off to Coach Carter, he did what noone else could do at MACK… Win Silver Bowls! If he was in the same league as schools w/ the same enrollment(CSD, Emery, Berean Christian, etc.) he’d be undefeated EVERY year.
July 27th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
BillJohnson, now we’re talking… As much as I hate splitting the OAL, I like your proposal. In your proposed league I like Tech/MACK for sure in basketball, O-High/Fremont in football… But that all implies that students are going to school within their districts. But I do like that idea. Now you’re seeing things through a clear lens. LOL What do we name this league? EAL??? Elite Athletic League!
July 27th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Yeabuddy, For the record Concord DID NOT BEAT Castlemont!
July 27th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Tech will beat YV and Mt Diablo!
July 27th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Talking about splitting the OAL is BLASPHEMY! Watch what the OAL teams do this preseason. I am sure all the critics will be silenced.
July 27th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Everyone in the OAL is eligible…I wish lol
Report card day is an OAL coaches worst nightmare….YES!
July 27th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
oal fan watch out 4 y.v if they still run that offense. patrone woods is still around! ask coach jb that offense can be a nightmare.
July 27th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
If you have not seen him you need to You tube him or go watch him Patrone Woods….He can even play baseball and basketball…
July 27th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
kenny edwards if mack played those d-4 schools u talk about know one would care. mack won 1987 silver bowl.
July 27th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
creme de la creme i got u guys as the favorite but i think u guys need to open up the offense. love ur q.b & wr’s i think not opening it up cost u guys the playoff game vs. fremont.how do you honestly feel bout the running game & ur o-line?
July 27th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
I saw Oakland High their very fast but the O-line needs work. Not sure about the Defense with their crazy scheme.
July 27th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
oal fan good enough 2 beat srv or campo? keep it real.
July 27th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Crazy scheme huh lol…
July 27th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Bill Johnson, You must remember I am an OAL FAN across the board!
July 27th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
MACK will go 5- 0 in the preseason!
July 27th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
oal fan tell it like it is! but ur silence speaks volumes cuz u would be braggin
July 27th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
If you read my comments you will know I am not the bragging type. JUST FACTS! Watch out for MACK!
July 27th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Berkeley High prediction: 10 -0
July 27th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Tech wont beat YV or MD
Not sure of the OAL schools enrollment numbers but i know that NO OAL team would make the D-1 or D-2 NCS playoffs
July 27th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Well running game is coming along and will be okay along with the o-line….But as most know the strength of are team is skilled positions.
July 27th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
oal fan o-high gonna get it done against srv or campo? who does mack play? anyone that will mean something?
July 27th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
DVAL fan, how dare you speak about the OAL in such negative terms! Watch what happens in the preseason this year with the OAL and then come back on this blog in October and apologize,
July 27th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
O-High plays SRV on the road so you never know what is going to happen with the ref’s. I am still ridin with O-High to win! O-High plays Campo at home they will blow them out!
July 27th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Bill Johnson, two words….. Alonzo Carter!!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 1:29 am
You know I’m not sure about who is really the top dog in the OAL. Castlemont has had a great defense for the past few years, and defense is what wins championships. Tech is talented but has not had a winning season since 05, O-High has a new attitude and they want to win. Mack has been under the radar for the most of the offseason. Skyline I’m not really sure about, and Fremont has to prove last year was not a fluke. So it will be a great season.
July 28th, 2009 at 8:51 am
oal fan will since u have b-high goin 10-0 how far do u see them goin? they’ve got pitt at home this year so u better not lose or that will make carter 2-18. who b-high playin sept.4 in sac.?
July 28th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
campo will beat o high by 2 TDs. ive seen o high this summer, no line. thats why they will lose
July 28th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Wow… 654 posts.. Football must be in the air…lol
July 28th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Yes its that time of the year…Football season.
July 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
BillJohnson, you are right Pitt is coming into the “Jacket Hive” and they are going to get stung!
July 28th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Im excited… should be a great season.. Kinda bothered me when i saw Calpreps pick O’Dowd to win our league (haal) for the 4th time in a row, when they havent beat us (san Leandro) sine 04… wat’s that all about???.. a lil private school favoritism? Gues they feel if they pick them often enough they’ll get it right 1 of these yrs… jus more motivation as if we needed it..
July 28th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
O’dowd has a lot coming back but man they lost maybe their second on first best player in Chris Martin & do they have a QB? Every O’Dowd team that I’ve seen in the recent year just hasn’t been able to throw the Rock so they consiquently can’t beat good teams.
Well, well, well an SL guy. I saw you guys last year in the first round against SRV & it just doesn’t look like you guys are getting the athletes that you use to. I also saw Castlemont last year & they look exactly like SL use to during the good days. Seems like those East Oakland boys are staying home now. You guys are pretty disciplined & work hard but I don’t know if you have the boys to compete with elite teams. If the Filipino guy I saw you use this summer is your QB he will not get it done 0-3 in non-league. Its maybe too late this year but you definitely need to update & change your system. You guys don’t have the boys any more to play kick ass & system never really could throw the ball at all. Other then Dennis DIxon but man he is an NFL player you ain’t gettin that any more.
July 28th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Even with SL having a down year I still see them beating every OAL team. From what I seen this summer those OAL teams look like a bunch of unorignized JV squads. =p
July 28th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Roeper–Lol–yea im a sl guy, i read these blogs from time to time while at work and usually stay quiet.. But come on man,they alway’s find a reason to put o’dowd infront of us… everyone’s intitled to there opinon but dont they use sum computer or sumthin and if so??, wat’s the formula??..doesnt really matter tho..
And for our system, It’s fine..We’ve averaged 35 to 42 points a game every season sense 05..This yr will be no different… our challenges have been on def were we’ve had 4 d.c’s in 4 yrs. ..while i’ve been the oc sense 05..thats playes a hugh factor in things which im sure alot of schools go through but probably gets over looked…
July 28th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Saw O’dowd at a 7 on 7 @ foothill..I was impressed, they do have alot of great athletes no question.. not to mention Kena Turner from the 49ers coachin the lb’s… There qb’s a 6’5 guy who got hurt when we played them last yr..I think he’s good…Pocket passer.. but my point was if you picked a team 4 yrs in a row at wat point do u give the respect to the team that won the lge 4 out of the ppast 5 yrs…Enough bout odowd tho… were getting rdy for bellermane prep Sept 4th, thats the focus…
July 28th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
“From what I seen this summer those OAL teams look like a bunch of unorganized JV squads”…lol
Really come on now…Why must you bash OAL teams like that? I guess all the D-1 talent in the OAL is not really D-1 also now huh??? lol I know people who really are watching the OAL can see that its on the rise..
If you don’t mind me asking which OAL teams are you speaking of???
July 28th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Whoever said that OAL teams is unorganized JV is crazy as hell. The teams I saw run fast and hit hard. Oakland football is as real as it gets. OAL plays anybody they dont run from competition like the DVAL leagues. DVAL your high seeds are over buddy. Might get 1 high shouldnt get 2.
July 28th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
I dont know if Patrone Woods can be a pro formation running back. Too big I think.
However he does move well and is very agile. I hope he worked hard on his conditioning. He is very talented hope he doesnt waste that.
Lucky DVAL has Y.V.
July 28th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Patrone has lost some weight and looks like the new coach will be moving him to FB, but he will still get a ton of carries.
I want to say one thing, i have never doubted the talent in the OAL. The teams should be the best around, half the kids look like D-1 kids already. They have as much size and speed as anybody. Their problem comes from the coaches, organization and work ethic. Talent wise Tech shouldnt lose a game all year, but MD and YV will both beat Tech because of the little things. I will never bash the talent in the OAL, there are some studs. But overall the teams just arent that good.
July 28th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
coach trot wats goin on over there? haven’t been able 2 get out of the 1st round lately why? is true wat roeper said aint gettin the boys from east oakland? watever it is time to step it up. can’t be losin at home in the playoffs my friend. that wing-t wont get it done & your record will show it after your 1st 2 games but be patience cuz when u hit league it will be a party cuz haal stinks!
July 28th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
yea buddy u can’t be serious with that non-league? cupcakes! how is that gonna get you ready 4 clayton valley or even concord? u lost 2 irvington last year barely beat weaka$$ northgate almost lost to san lorenzo their coach is an idiot.6 home games this year hope u can back it up. all this talent u claim to have will see if the results back up wat u say.
July 28th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
“Their problem comes from the coaches, organization and work ethic” Have you every talked football to some of the coaches of the OAL? Or know what college or pro programs they come from? We know the game just or if not better than other coaches..When it comes to teams its other factors that you deal with coaching kids in Oakland…
And just some inofo Tech last year was very young…
I am just curious how did you up with “Their problem comes from the coaches, organization and work ethic”
July 28th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
creme de la creme like i’ve been sayin u wanna lose the perception the oal has around the bay u better prove it when u play srv & campo! that’s they only way 2 change it. beaten those frisco schools & winning league won’t prove nothing it’s all bout those 2 games 4 you guys to get the respect u want!
July 28th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Coach Trot: hope you don’t believe I backed O’dowd as the favorite in your league if you read that into my blog. You guys have beat them 8-9 years or something like that. It really isn’t much of a rivalry. You should definitley be favored & you should win the league. Your D. What the hell? You had that guy Jerome calling your D & you were number 1 in the Bay inh 2005. The next guy should have been his under study & called things exactly the same. Also have to a lot of the blame on Coach Bowers. He’s the Head guy. He should be involve in scheming down to Crossing the T’s & dotting the I’s. If he isn’t then sorry to say that he isn’t much of a Head Coach. If he just oversees & lets guys do things that he doesn’t understand or can’t duplicate then he will only be as good as people he hires. He should be working with you on every play you call or atleast know why you’re doing certain things. Was Coach Calcagno the same way? I also believe that you aren’t geting the athletes you use to. One of my buddies coaches & he told me that scouts have no interest any anybody at SL D-1 wise. Any truth to that?
July 28th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
And I hear you 100% thats why I do not do all that talking games speak for them self…But to just down a whole league of coaches come on now? Thats what I have a problem with.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
No town team can touch the BVAL top dogs
July 28th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
beating the teams from frisco dont prove a thing because those teams suck!!!! all the teams over there are overrated, like the sf champs lincoln. they lost to el cerrito last year and have a way higher rating than el cerrito according to calpreps.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
“O-High/Fremont in football… But that all implies that students are going to school within their districts.”
Kenny Edwards Jr talk about a homer! That combo will win it in football!?
Fact- over 60% of the kids that stay in West Oakland dont attend Mack
Fact- if the combo did happen Castlemont would be that much better.
Fact- The Tech Mack combo would run football and basketball!
July 28th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
e_culb if you can’t get your kids to stay who’s fault is that? u lost 2 skyline unbelievable! got shutout at home to salesian! those are facts too.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
e_culb your sayin tech mack combo would beat berkeley this season?
July 29th, 2009 at 1:58 am
I am serious enough about the OAL, seriouly, no one really pays attention to the teams just the players, lets talk about other leaugues, jeez, the oal will do baad in non league every team except for castlemont
July 29th, 2009 at 2:31 am
Creme de la Creme: What you hear from The Truth is just that, “The Truth.” That is the common conception of what OAL football is all about. Stereotypically speaking, the Oakland athlete is out for himself, he has the potential to be something great, a star even. However, he is undisciplined and lazy. If you do everything right, he will eventually screw himself over with his lack of commitment to excellence. THAT is where The Truth is coming from. THAT is what a lot of people in the bay think. THAT is wrong! That’s where Billjohnson is right, no matter how much of a douche he’s appearing to be. To get the facts straight, some people need to be force fed. Beat them and show them. If they don’t listen the first time, come back next year and tie on the bib. But until then, THAT is what you’re going to have to deal with.
July 29th, 2009 at 3:28 am
I feel like I must reiterate that I do not think this way, nor do I condone it, before the effigies start showing up in the front lawn.
July 29th, 2009 at 4:21 am
Thanks for clearing that up HAAL Fan b/c you were about to get the BIZNESS!!!!
E_Culb… “Fact- over 60% of the kids that stay in West Oakland dont attend Mack” show me where you got that “fact.” And maybe not to that same extreme, but I know other schools go through the same thing. Before JB got to the Castle kids in deep ESO were not going to Castle… I didnt attend school in my district… And I know for a FACT that most OAL championship teams(in the 3 major sports) have players out of district. It’s not just a MACK problem.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:56 am
BillJohnson never will I get into your TOMFOOLAREY, Kenny all I did was go off of your own words “if kids go to the schools in there district”, and Its like around the horn I got “inside information”. LOL!!
P.S. Kenny Boy 4:21am!!!??? Go to bed! ROFL!
July 29th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Roeper- The d.c in 05 was Barney Zuber, now the head coach @ Logan.. Jerome was in 06 who’s now the d.c @ chabot college…i wasnt referring to you or any other blogger in regards to pickin O’dowd, i was referring to calpreps..As far as not getting the same athletes,,ummm not sure i agree with that..i will say wiothout a doubt that lately we havent had kidz with the same work ethic as far as wieght room and conditioning on there own to get better..At the high school level we get so little time with these kidz that alot the D1 prospects end up being the ones who put the most in on there own time…Sorry to say but most kidz now days rather play madden @ the house then go catch passes when they get free time..makes a difference in the end..
July 29th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Roeper–Bowers and Calcagno are both Great head coaches.. I dont envy anyone having to put up with the things they have too.. or any high school head coach in an urban area for that matter..It’s a different beast….We should consider these guys hero’s fa real cause the truth is if sum of these kidz wernt on the football field, they’d be in your livin room while your sleep…
July 29th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Bill Johnson- Wat’s goin on over here?
where working hard to get better…true we hav not gotten out the 1st rd of the offs in a couple yrs and didnt even get in 06 season…Actually i think teams in the east bay league are better prepared come playoff times b/c of the level of competition they see wkend and wk out… but that is no excuse..We do need to step it up, couldnt agree with you more… 0-2 to start “09 ? ouch!! but very possible… I hope Bellermane and Valley Cristian feel the same way you do…
July 29th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Lets see here “stereotype of Oakland athletes selfish..undisciplined and lazy… lack of commitment to excellence”
Sad if people really view a whole city of kids that way… Just look at this story about Damante Horton who is just as nice of a young off the field than he is on the field…All I can do is laugh at ignorance..Yes there are kids who do have issues but thats where us “unorganized and lack of work ethic” OAL coaches who want to help these young men come in to play…Giving back trying to make a difference “You must be the change you want to see in the world.”
Mahatma Gandhi
I really don’t care what people think cause no matter how bad or times you beat a team their will be a % that will find something to pick at…Thats why I love this time of the year football season…Games speak for them self.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:51 am
“you must be the change you se in the world” I like that “Creme”. Keep doing. what your doing.
July 29th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Coach Trot: Pretty sure his name is George Zuber unless thats his nickname.
July 29th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Didn’t answer my question about them being involved with the scheming or just turning it over to Coordinators.
July 29th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Lol- yea Barney’s his nickname..never hav called him george in my life…we went to school together since 7th grade…
There both involved with Scheming..but i would say they have differnet philosphy’s.. Bowers give’s his input throughout the week and will speak on things during the game that he wants to get done, but allows his cordinators to call there game while he manages the overall game..I think he does that cause he understand that play callin is about rhythm and setting things up..Danny was the oc and head coach while at sl.and would pretty much trust his brother and d coaching staff to run that side of the ball.. But i wasnt on the varsity staff while danny was there.. his last yr i was the jv head guy..Wat a headache that was..I think being a head coach and trying to me overally involved in O and the d is a recipe for disater…Gotta have trust and put people in those spot who can execute your vision..
July 29th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
DVAL FAN,
“Their problem comes from the coaches, organization and work ethic. Talent wise Tech shouldnt lose a game all year, but MD and YV will both beat Tech because of the little things”
Thats bull. Work ethic is there trust that. Organization is definetly there. And, all I saw was good coaching for the last 3 season. I dont want to say your sterotyping but you should check yourself. You will definitlety will see this preseason. Watch out for Fremont High.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
e_culb u may call it wat u want but i’ll call it facts. haal fan i speak the truth some can take it some can’t. coach trot u guys do a good job but i feel to get back to level u guys were at u my need to open up the offense.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
e_culb “tomfoolarey”? that’s wat you was doin at mack. come on ur non-league record was 2-8 against sub par teams. NO WINS in the oal last season it’s like u guys weren’t even there. winning 32% of your games that sounds like “tomfoolarey”. silver bowl champs then zero wins! damn that was quick. coach mcculley good luck i know u won’t get sweep by skyline & salesian 2 years in row.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
coach trot tell bowers call carter. berkeley & san leandro should be playin every year!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
DVAL sucks, sorry to break it to you buddy boy, its the truth, get out of here. With the dval. Your the only one I know that talks like that
July 29th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
“634″ yea ask me but play me now and ask me. Then I had all 10th grade players that year and still won the OAL !!! That was there best year in 10 years !!
Caslemont Pride!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
“623″ You must have miss the 1st day because it wasn’t close at all and plus i had 13 kids and all back ups on def. And when i coach my kids play i don’t run behind them and put the in the write position ever play not taking nothing from MD but i Opened up a invite to come to Castle but i have not heard back from anyone.
Castlemont Pride !!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Bill Johnson please don’t be so hard on E-Culb.. He explained why he lost check post #238
July 29th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
For the record Castlemont only had one player from the last two silver bowl team with a kid that moved into are district. “Aaron Horne” Everyone else deep East Oakland”
Castlemont Pride !!!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Im heard Tam has a new coach does anyone have his number because i think he is trying to drop us week# 5. LOL “It’s always something new” I called the AD five time and no call back.
Castlemont Pride !!
July 30th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Come on Coach JB if were that young when YV brang it to y’all & you won it last year then you should have a pretty damn good team this year. You can’t tell me that that many kids didn’t make grades.
July 30th, 2009 at 9:00 am
it’s amazing how everytime an oal team plays the dval & looses their young. can’t wait to see wat castle & skyline do against concord. plus i believe tech plays mt.diablo & y.v so will see who gets it done on the field. coach jb concord came to ur house got a tie. u gonna take care of business up in concord?
July 30th, 2009 at 9:36 am
coach jb all those 10th graders are seniors now so u should be the team to beat right? patrone woods was a sophmore that year too. still no excuse for gettin skinned 51-0!
July 30th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I think Castle will get with them this season. Supposedly MD has the fastest sweeper in Northern Cali but I doubt it. MD hasnt been very competitive since I moved to Northern California. JB you should have no problems.
What ever happens do not lose to MD just dont let it happen. Town Bizzness
July 30th, 2009 at 9:47 am
JB,
You need to be concerned with Fremonts line play. They are the biggest in OAL and that line seems to be fast. Like how your line was last season. They might have 3-4 D1 talents.
Castle, O-High, Fremont top 3 and not in that order.
July 30th, 2009 at 9:49 am
DVAL fan,
You sound like a MARK. Shut your slow trap.
July 30th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Fremont will have a legit line this year
July 30th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
I can tell you that and i am !!!
Castlemont is thinking about Castlemont and no one else !! One week at a time. My o-line will be ready for who ever we play 4 out of five of them return and they work.
CASTLEMONT PRIDE
July 30th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Coach JB, did you really get beat 51-0 that year?
July 30th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Hey every team has been beaten before, u guys be putting too much on things. So what if the castle was beat that year 51-0. It only makes a team better and more hungry to get better. And just like that Castlemont used that game to get them ready for league. That non league does not mean anything becasue they do not allow OAL team to compete in NCS and thats not the coaches fault it is up to the commissioner.
July 30th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
True but the OAL should not be gettin beat by that large of a margin. But anyway that won’t happen this year. The OAL teams will be way over 500 in preseason.
July 30th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
“True but the OAL should not be gettin beat by that large of a margin.”
Who the hell do you guys think you are? If you are undisciplined, inexperienced, missing key personnel, plagued by injuries, lacking talent, etc. YOU SHOULD BE GETTING BEAT! Regardless of where you’re from. Like Brandon Beard said, “Every team loses.” Now, I’m well aware that the majority of the posters here are OAL fans and its tremendous that all of you have such pride. But, good lord. Talk about delusions of grandeur. Everyone loses! The majority of everyone loses by a large margin eventually as well. Foothill High, always an elite program even by EBAL standards, went 9-3 last year. They lost a very close game to Monte Vista by 10 points. They also lost a playoff game and regular season game against none other than DLS … by a combined score of 14 – 105. One touchdown a game, and it probably came on the second string. Now, I know it’s DLS but the point is still the same, even the best lose. To just blatantly state that an OAL school shouldn’t lose by that large a margin is insane. Sorry if I read too much into your statement but let’s just take the blinders off for a second. As I stated in #173, “The OAL has won 3 out of 16 games against an out of league opponent with a better than .500 record last year.”
July 31st, 2009 at 12:59 am
well you know I would have to agree. Alot of OAL schools have been plagued by having kids who are not dedicated, only want to come out for football in august and only have a few kids that are really dedicated. This makes a big difference. Now OAL teams have programs where they are able to have year around football, but not every school had that happen for them in the OAl, therefore they went into non league games unprepared and unable to compete at a high level. So to me a coach can only do so much, but the kids have to be dedicated to the program and learning the game.
July 31st, 2009 at 6:48 am
But I do believe that now it is a bit different. Many OAL teams are able to compete with the teams during the non-league schedule. Either way it goes the OAL has always been known for being a very physical league and that has remained consistent. Sometimes too physical!!!! I would love for the OAL to get involved with the NCS show they can show what they are about in the playoffs.
July 31st, 2009 at 10:28 am
Yea I did that was the end of the old Castlemont Era !!
CASTLEMONT PRIDE !!
July 31st, 2009 at 11:26 am
the OAL will probably join NCS within the next 5 years. I think both sides want this to happen, the OAL just has to be willing to change some of their eligibility rules to fall in line with NCS’s rules. Namely the open enrollment that the oakland school district has where kids can transfer and play right away. If they make a couple changes i think NCS will vote them in for sure
August 1st, 2009 at 4:41 pm
OAL follows CIF rules the same as NCS.
August 1st, 2009 at 5:24 pm
I OAL fan
I have been told their eligibility rules are different than NCS. In NCS if a kid transfers without a legit documented move, then he has to sit out an entire year of varsity sports. He can play JV, but cant play varsity for an entire year. I was under the impression that in the OAL kids can transfer schools and be eligible to play right away
August 1st, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Answers… I don’t think that’s the case. I believe the rules are the same in the OAL… We have to have legit reasons for a move as well… I believe it’s called a “hardship.” Someone else might have more knowledge on the subject. JB, Creme, E_Culb this should be your specialty.
August 1st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Wasnt Concord able to tie Castle without its best player and starting RB… cuz he’s still there and they have even more weapons this year!
August 1st, 2009 at 10:37 pm
By the way, most ref’s suck for the most part, so you never want to be in a position where they determine the game!… I’m not the smartest guy in the world, so, just score more points than the other team!
August 1st, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Man you got me, people like to talk that NCS has different rules as far as transfers go, but from my experience they pick and choose which transfers they want to investigate and which ones the dont. The OAL is the same, pretty much if enough noise is made the matter is investigated, if not then it wont be. They do call it a hardship though. But the tranfer rules are the same across the board its a CIF rule not a section one.
August 1st, 2009 at 11:23 pm
You have to fill out a form showing that you moved. You can’t just transfer schools whenever and play
August 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
I have to admit nobodys team is more tenacious than Castlemonts.
August 2nd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong, I just thought that Concord started Pica at RB, who’s no slocuh, instead of Hightower, who is a very special back and was still able to tie Casltemont. Castlemont had one of the sickest D lines I saw that year and put minimal pressure on the QB. I happened to make it to Pitt Camp to see Concord as well as Mt Diablo camp and watch Castlemont. With Castle traveling to Concords house this should make for a very intriguing matchup because both teams are very physically imposing…even Concord has a little speed for a “DVAL team”(wink,wink). Both teams have VERY impressive players at the QB, RB and WR positions, only thing is Concord is working with 2 starting 6’4″ WR’s and Castlemonts got some speed! I will definitely make the trip to go watch this one!
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Devanei Hampton had to sit out a year after transfering to Tech from Berkeley because her hardship was denied.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm
E CUlb,
I think you said it best. Just from reading these blogs the past year I am finding that the rules are there, but they pick and choose who to enforce them on.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
I saw Pitt and DeLa might be in trouble
August 6th, 2009 at 12:05 am
“Devanei Hampton had to sit out a year after transfering to Tech from Berkeley because her hardship was denied.”
XTOWER from what I have heared from people close to that situation was that there was a lot of noise made from the Berkeley high way to which it had to be investigated and ultimatley denied, and looking back she needed that freshman transfer rule back then, even though that still is no automatic.
August 6th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Bill Johnson where you at?
August 6th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
In September of 2008 the OAL had the opportunity to join the NCS but the status quo was maintained.
I’m a huge East Bay high school football fan and I would love to see the OAL join the NCS just for their participation in the playoffs. It’s a shame that the OAL’s 6 schools only participate in series of rematches for their football playoffs instead of showcasing Oakland’s talent in NCS Playoffs where 100+ schools are eligible.
Sure the OAL gets the same number of headlines and a perception of equality is created, but what’s really going on? Again… 6 SCHOOLS ELIGIBLE FOR PLAYOFFS INSTEAD OF 118!!!
When the buzz around this possible merger was at it’s height, the misconception that the OAL as league was going to disband so the popular oppinion was against the merger. That’s what I was hearing on the streets and reading in the paper. But the reality was that only it’s “section” status was at stake. The league Would remain intact and possibly include some others schools.
It seemed like the biggest opponent of the merger was the OAL Commissioner which makes sense because his job may have been at stake (seems like a great job too and I’m not for anyone losing their job if they do it well). His reasons were mostly financial, which doesn’t make throretical sense to me. If it made bad financial sense to be in the NCS, why do 100+ schools participate… most of which are in better financial shape than OUSD? Hell, even the Richmond schools are in NCS. Here is a link to his proposal by the OAL Commissioner to the OUSD of why the merger should not take place… You be the judge.
http://boe-webextender.ousd.k12.ca.us/attachments/10910.pdf
Also, here are the blogs that were posted about this topic…
http://www.ibabuzz.com/prepcorner/2008/08/18/public-hearing-on-future-of-oal-set-for-thursday/
http://www.ibabuzz.com/prepcorner/2008/09/24/its-official-oal-wont-join-ncs/
I’ve worked at both NCS and OAL schools for 12 years and I really would love this for the kids. Oakland kids will get to see what else is out there and the surrounding communities can see what’s inside of Oakland.
NCS schools really don’t play OAL schools because it doesn’t help much in the seeding criteria. The most important criteria for NCS Playoffs is the teams record against other schools in the NCS of the same size or bigger.
My questions are these…
How can the OAL participate in the NCS playoffs?
Can it be done without being part of the NCS?
Does the OAL want this?
Does the NCS want this?
August 6th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
EBFOOTBALL, I agree with you on every point!
August 6th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Another team backed out playing the Castle this year so if anyone is looking for a week 5 let me no.
barnesjc_009@yahoo.com
August 7th, 2009 at 10:57 am
EBFootball’s question should be answered or asked or whatever
August 7th, 2009 at 11:38 am
oal fan my friend i aint gone nowhere. just laughn’ that o’dowd is the favorite 2 win haal! all the sudden peronon is playin’ skyline wat a coward! he ducked beam all those years know he’s ducking castle also heard miramonte & encinal wanted 2 play him.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:51 am
BOD is not the favorite to win the HAAL…The Defending Champs are…They have the most talent in the HAAL coming back and I wont be surprised to see CV win more then 7 games…and y isnt Peronon playing Coach Carter?
August 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
castro valley should have beat bod last year. the last drive bod had they had 12 in the huddle every play check the film but no one said sh1t then c.v falls 4 a toss pass on 4th & 13 come on why would someone bite on that must be terrible coachn’!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
cv has new coachin this year and the player there r excited to get the season rollin….BOD shouldve lost 3 haal games last year…Thy almost fell to Hayward…i don’t see luck this year besides a few whoopings to the bottom teams in the HAAL
August 7th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Sorry to say no one cares about the cv and bod rivalrey. But I hate to say this from what I hear 12 player for a whole drive! On the final possesion!. Something needs to be said
August 7th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
who said they cared on here
August 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
when did this turn into OAL only blog? some people wanna hear about all bay football not just rivalry between OAL.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
yeah, I’ll pass on that JV league.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
lol y do u think thy have thr own Section because they suck in evrything expt for Basketball and track
August 7th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Ok, for all those who say that the OAL is overrated, I’d have to agree. Their players are legit. They have some big, fast, strong, athletic D-1 type athletes.
However, I’ve been at too many games where teams with inferior athletes outplayed them or more disciplined players outworked them or outhustled them. A few cases in point.
1. In 2006, Mack played Liberty High School to a tie (liberty missed an extra point with little time left). That Liberty team went 0-9 playing BVAL/EBAL teams. Mack went on to win 9 games including the Silver Bowl. That’s OAL football??
2. Castlemont tied a Concord football team that lost in the first round of the playoffs. However, that Castlemont team won the Silver Bowl. Again, that’s OAL football??
3. In 07-08 season MACK lost to an Arroyo team that lost in the first round of playoffs. Yet, MACK won the Silver Bowl that year. OAL football, really??
4. Finally, Oakland High played Liberty last year and beat them in a close game, 35-25. This is a Liberty team that went on to score zero points against Heritage, Deer Valley and Pittsburg. In fact, the only team Liberty scored more points against was Hogan of Vallejo. Liberty’s record: 2-8. Oakland’s record 8-3. This can’t be the vaunted OAL.
I submit that the OAL stay as it is, because letting them into NCS and making their league champion a mandatory playoff team will water down the NCS playoffs.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
yeah i’ve had my fill on oal football…
August 8th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Hey “EastBay Coach”, Have you ever heard of playing down to your opponents level?
1. Mack played Liberty their first game at Liberty… I am sure the officials played a roll in that one.
2. Castlemont played Concord at Concord… I am sure the officials had nothing to do with that one.
3. Mack lost a close game to a playoff team in San leandro. I am sure the officials had nothing to do with that one either.
4. Oakland High was 0-10 the year before and came out and beat Liberty a NCS team on their field with “their officials” by two scores.
Let’s see what happens this year because the OAL teams have scheduled a lot of NCS teams in it’s pre-season.
August 8th, 2009 at 11:43 am
no one cares. =p
August 8th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Hey OAL fan when did Mack play SL? It must have been at least 5 years ago.
August 8th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
I think OAL FAN meant when they lost to Arroyo 33-12 a San Lorenzo team(sometimes confused for San Leandro, cities are located close and have the same initials).
August 8th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
As for the officiating, I’ve seen terrible biased called games that sometimes caused losses more than I’ve seen good ones(including baseball). The only way to get around that is to take it out of they’re hands by dominating like De La Salle, SRV…etc.
August 8th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I hate wen people get on here, and say s***, and don’t know what they are saying EX(eastbay coach) I am not a fan of the oal, but if You acually WATCHED some of the games, the scores don’t reallt resmble. The games. So you ofically go down as a JOKE. In my book, BUT, you do make a lot of great points, its just that your using stats, and you never acually seen some of these games, which gives you no creditablity. I bet athelete for athlete, every single team in the oal, is better then your team. Once the coaching cathces up, their no longer push overs,
August 8th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
1 Dela
2 MV
3 .Foothill
4 .San Ramon
5 Cal
6 Amador
7Granada
8Livermore
August 8th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Groundskepper, If OAL fan meant the Mack loss to Arroyo instead on SL, how can he call a 33-12 loss a close loss?
August 8th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Okay maybe it wasn’t so close… Well you can’t judge what league is better than the other.. Just keep an eye out for the OAL this year.
August 9th, 2009 at 8:33 am
The OAL plays anybody who makes the call. Cant say that about a lot of NCS teams. And a lot of these NCS teams wont go into Oakland. Say what you want but
Willie Stargell, Rickey Henderson, Jimmy Rollins, Curt Muton, Marshawn Lynch, etc. Oakland Baby.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Please don’t for get Bill Russell, Frank Robinson, and Brian Shaw. OAL Baby!
August 9th, 2009 at 10:08 am
How can I forget CURT FLOOD!
August 11th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Bill Russell, Frank Robinson = MACK
August 12th, 2009 at 12:39 am
jimmy rollins played in alameda
August 12th, 2009 at 12:44 am
(encinal)
August 12th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Rollins played for the Oakland Dynamites (QB)
August 12th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Ok, but he succeeded as a baseball player, not football.
August 12th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
HAAL Player,
You a player hating sucka
August 12th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
nawww, just tired of OAL gettin hyped up year in year out, and yet they still dont join NCS and play with everyone else.
August 12th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
i am certainly not doubting the talent that OAL has, i just hate that whenever anyone brings up any players or teams outside of OAL there’s bound to be numerous negative blogs. I just wanna see what’s goin on with all the football. My kid doesn’t play football, so it’s nice to get feedback on games, players etc.
August 12th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
HAAL player,
your right they should join ncs
August 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Al Davis is taking over the OAL.Hes the new comissioner.
August 24th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
It all starts this week. Watch out for MACK!