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By Ben Enos
Friday, October 9th, 2009 at 4:15 pm in East Bay Football.
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By Ben Enos
Friday, October 9th, 2009 at 4:15 pm in East Bay Football.
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October 9th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
well, De La survives- actually, lots of bad calls, the game could have been 42-21 or more. Can you believe Ward called for face maskings on a straight arm that he went 46 yds.on? The refs continue to call De La for a less than a second set on the line with a rocker Veer call, get off it, Veer teams always do that. Oh well, the Spartans don’t get down on themselves or bad calls, pound the ball, sooner or later they’ll wear the other team down.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:40 am
This is MV’s year to do something, it all goes downhill from here. FROSH SCORE -DLS 28 MV 7; JV SCORE DLS 32 MV 0
October 10th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Does MV have a Video Scoreboard? I was watching on csn and it looked like they have a video scoreboard.
October 10th, 2009 at 11:50 am
BIG JOE Watch the game on TV and you will see that every call was correct against DLS (even the facemask which by the way was 5yds not a big deal MV stuffed them after that)they really big blown call was to the block in the back on MV taking a first down catch back. The game was what is was suppose to be GREAT!!! Can’t wait for them to meet in the playoffs.
EBAL Fan: Relax it is one game MV goes undefeated the rest of the way
Groundskeeper:Yes they have a video scoreboard
October 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Instead of dreaming of a DLS rematch, MV better concentrate on getting by SRV, AV and Cal -no easy task based on how the mustangs play defense. When your defense gives up 1,400 yds rushing in 5 games-you have problems. MV was exposed again as a soft, pass first team. Berkely would give MV fits in NCS as well.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Wow, I wonder how much that cost? Looked like a top notch fascility for high school football. I can’t imagine it being any better.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
MV may have a soft defense but their running back is really strong. Granted the Spartans were displaying horrible tackling skills in the first half but he was repeatedly getting yards after one or two hits sometimes. Let’s also not forget DLS has one of the top O-lines in the East Bay. I’m not sure Berkeley’s line is at the level. I do agree though that MV needs to be focused on the rest of their games rather then a rematch because last year they got caught two games in a row by SRV. The same goes for DLS however, as Cal is a game that will be tough especially if they tackle the way they did last night. I do think Lad’s gameplan was that the best defense against Nottingham was just to keep the ball out of his hands and they did a great job at it.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Renegades10 Berkeley has a nice size, solid line, with a good o-line coach ,in Vince Bordelon,who came from Mack, and stresses fundementals, mechanics, and have developed a great zone blocking scheme for the jackets offense. Isaiah, Henderson Jr, 6’4 300, Mark Harden Jr, 6’3 280, Myles Grace Jr, 6’1 275, Kyle Hamilton Sr, 6’1 260 Robert Roseman Sr, 6’4 280 anchor the huge offensive line, Run Rickey Run Go Jackets.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
SRV only beat MV last year because Southwick and the senior playmakers were way moer experienced than MV’s group of guys. They had just won NCS a year before and most of those guys were extremeley talented. MV had a new year with Nottingham and a couple other areas. The first time SRV was under-rated because they lost 3 in a row, but aside from DLS, SRV had winable games at home against Cal High 21-24 turnovers killed them and leroy green ran incredible, at Foothill 35-40 SRV scored three times in the fourth quarter to tie and almost upset before Foothill came back after a INT.
The second time in NCS SRV was on fire like never before shutting down San Leandro 42-14 in the first round after a non league game came close 38-34 escaping with a W. Then MV had all week to prepare and showed up in the score 43-36, but Southwick and company got out early and in a shoutout scored last and held on to prevent MV getting revenge. So MV season was done after the rivaly games, but some said they had hangovers from DLS which was an excuse since SRV came out from losing bad 44-7 to DLS on comcast to finish strong. SRV was better than MV against MV but MV played better against DLS because they face them more often than SRV and had better matchups.
That SRV game against Foothill this year had a little more to it because some guys who played at the end last year including then backup QB Comes felt they played better than Foothill on the road in 08 down the stretch, and if they get a good early lead they can play better than Foothill. They showed that, you can’t doubt SRV. Especially at home, Foothill came in 07 couldn’t get an early lead and lost a messy game to a more determined SRV squad.
This year I dont think MV looks back on DLS game unless they meet DLS again, but will be focusing on Amador, Cal, and San Ramon each week when they play them so they don’t get caught up like they were last year.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
also MV is the most talented team overall this year in EBAL. Best linebackers, 2 way guys on the line(although DLS has the best D-line), QB, and WR’s. DLS has the top backs this year, but MV RB Johnson is the most underated player you dont hear about. for EBAL standards he is doing as good as Roy Helu was in his senior year at SRV. Because MV has such a good passing game they dont need him to run for 200 yds a game, but still averages over 100 because they balance the offense and play extremely well.
MV’s going to run all over SRV this year if they keep it up and use the pass to set up the run. One of the most fun teams to watch out of the EBAL in last couple years. SRV defense not as good as it looks on paper, but against certain teams they can exploit their defenciency. i dont think they’ll be able to do that this year against MV or esp. DLS
October 11th, 2009 at 12:27 am
i will agree that MV has the best linebacker in the EBAL in Wilkerson but i’m not sure about the best linebackers. MV did a great job of game planning against Blake Renaud but he is a very good player. Plus I’m not sure that giving up over 400 yards of rushing qualifies as having a great group of linebackers especially when you know DLS will run the ball.
October 12th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Renegades10, I agree with you wholeheartedly about how good Wilkerson is but is he the best? I don’t know. Your reflections were dead on for the most part. I also agree that giving up more like 520 total rushing yards to DLS is nothing to brag about. And Renegades10,… that isn’t a stellar D by any stretch of the imagination. Ward would have been close to that figure himself disregarding some of the questionable penalties. Furthermore, I didn’t notice Wilkerson anywhere near Terron at the end of his runs, maybe that’s because he was blown away by the great blocking of a talented OL.
High school teams are not the Pros or even college but sometimes I wonder if the good ones couldn’t beat some college teams. Many of the HS teams now train like pros, strategize like pros, and are in some respects more conditioned than pros so the level of competition has really picked up in the last 20 years. Lad has been very generous in sharing his coaching philosophy in the media, so it’s no wonder the local teams are improving. The one salient difference and competitive edge that he knows he holds is the mental, moral, and spiritual development he and his staff teach. You can’t copy that very easily and I believe that’s the main reason why DLS teams, (not just football) consistently excel.
The Spartan warriors of old were mentally tough (read committed), morally sound, and supremely conditioned and trained for battle. These are still the hallmarks of a DLS Spartan athlete.
Now all they have to do is focus on the next opponent and preparing mentally for what could become more of a contest than the “big” game was hyped to be.
P.S.
Chase, thanks for that Two Geeks and a Pigskin interview where you went out to MV to interviw their top guns and wish them “good luck” in breaking the streak. You laid the groundwork for a reverse Karma boomerang that certainly worked on MV. Who was responsible for the “lights out” reoccurring phenomenom and the rediculous MV announcer’s antics?
I’ve never heard of such nonsense. The EBAL league should investigate these “strange occurences;” they were not coincidental as they seem to mysteriously happen each time an opposing team is starting to gain momentum.
October 12th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Porque, you missed the recruiting aspect for DLS. Duh. They recruit from an area that covers at least 50 high schools. The amazing thing is the coaching staff gets a geographically diverse group to consistently perform at a high level, except for the rash of penalties this year. Did I mention the recruiting?
October 12th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
porque coming from a monte vista fan you know their announcer is a flamer and they pull the lights out stunt every time they are about to lose a big game.
against Cal High in 07, they were losing and in the third quarter as well the lights went out. Cal HIgh beat MV on their turf for the first time in like 33 years and people were going nuts because MV tried to steal momentum by that BS.
MV is a suspect program because of that and aside from their athelets and abilitity to consistently own Cal, AV, and Foothill over the past 5 years, they have nowhere near had the sucess SRV has had running through NCS much more consistently than Bergman.
That is why MV is an overhyped program. When was the last time they made it all the way through to an NCS final?
2002.
AV has since made an NCS final in 04
Foothill NCS final in 06
SRV NCS championship win in 07, second since NCS championship in 04, semifinal loss to Las Lomas 05, semifinals loss to DLS in 06, semifinals loss to Pittsburg in 08
Cal High’s very first NCS final in 07, semis loss to Foothill in 05
MV.. first round loss to San Leandro at home in 05.
First round loss to SRV away in 06.
semifinal loss to DLS away in 07.
first round loss to SRV at home in 08.
where are you Mustangs? they dont show up in NCS at all. What I don’t get is they are always seeded very high #2 or #3 so they should never meet DLS until a final. But that has never happened! the mustangs aren’t even the best team in Danville, head to head NCS records prove that! Since MV beat SRV in NCS finals in 02 and 03 they have not faired well at all. Those were the Kyle Wright days.. long over.
IF they are as good as they continue to “pride themselves” on being, they will never make an NCS final again. They boast too much to lose so early, but they definitely are chokers in my opinion. They beat Pittsburg 2 years in a row, stack their schedule for NCS, but can’t even earn their seed by winning a first round playoff game. How Horrible!
If SRV can do it after years of humiliation to MV and moving between 3A and 4A.. if Foothill isn’t a threat anymore.. if Cal High can get it done for the first time in school history.. when Amador is down and still can’t challenge… Blame De La Salle.
LOL DLS isn’t to blame, your own history is. Here’s a hint, although MV has played DLS more times than any EBAL team, regular season home game in 2006 (35-14), playoffs at DLS in 2007 (50-15), regular season at DLS 2008 (45-35), regular season at home 2009 (28-21).
They are getting closer the more they meet, however MV is still nowhere near DLS speed and athleticism and discipline. still a half level behind I’d say. gotta improve MV. and actually back your game up with some post season achievements to point to. it dont mean nothing if you cant win when it counts. – Mike exposing MV weaknesses
October 12th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Renegade: Agree Wilkerson is the best LB. MV LB’s as a group are excellent, but they have a new and developing D-Line. They also played straight-up most of the game.
The rushing statistics are a bit misleading, because MV was in the game until the end, and had missed scoring opportunities. Overall, it was a great effort from both teams.
The DLS O-line was outstanding and Ward was his old explosive self. DLS clearly remain the standard bearer in Nor Cal.
Johnson is the best-kept secret in the EBAL. Good rb’s make the other team look like poor tacklers. And McGovern is the real deal on both sides of the ball. He had one of the hardest hits in a hard hitting game.
Big Joe and Porque:
You guys are quick to point out other teams behavior, yet it seems you can’t be gracious winners. How does all the whining about penalties and your inability to credit a worthy opponent fit in with the DLS philosophy?
Porque:
Contrary to what DLS (De Lu Sional) fans think, there are several excellent coaches in the EBAL and I’m sure they do not have to learn how to win from Coach Lad.
Sorry to burst your conspiracy theory, but the lights are on a timer and go off at 9:00PM, just like the Cal game before. Mistake? Yes. Conspiracy? No.
October 12th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Porque, yes I do think Wilkerson is the best LB in the EBAL. DLS just took him out of the game much like MV did to Wynn and Renaud. The only problem for Wilkerson is that the MV defense has no real other playmakers to step up whereas DLS had someone like Marre to have a big game. DLS knew how good Wilkerson is and did a great job of gameplanning. Thats what happens when you have a good O-line and you can execute. I do have to be honest though only two calls in my mind against DLS were questionable and only one was on a Ward run. I think the refs did a good job and the DLS coaches know this.
October 12th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Mike, you may honestly be the biggest idiot I’ve ever seen on the internet, and that’s quite a statement. To bring in to question the sexuality of MV’s announcer just shows how much of tool you are. If you want your wolfs to get a more respect in the rankings maybe they should try to schedule out of league games with teams that are at least half way decent.
October 12th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
I will tell you, after watching the game twice, I can say Wilkerson honestly is the lone person worth a darn on the defense.
Man, that was pathetic what the De La Salle offense did running the ball. I am sure DLS is the class of NCS again, but I think everyone will agree, they are down some this year. But to go out and rush for over 500 yards, shows how bad the MV defense actually is.
Then take in MV only lost by seven — crazy
October 12th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Not whining about the officials, just pointing out that De La gets flagged all the time for quick sets on the o-line. The refs want at least a second to set, they run that Veer so fast that I think some refs can’t follow it. If you follow a Veer offense, most of those flags on the o-line are not penalities. We’re not talking about jumping and off sides. It usually happens when refs who are not working league games or see De La a lot. Bye the way, the recruiting comment, have you seen in person the size of their players? Doesn’t look like recruiting here. Team speed and relentless getting after the ball are the keys. Could it be that they have a strong work ethic, including the coaching staff, their main coaches are all teachers, better communication with students and they see them in school every day. They must allow them to take easy classes like weight training, typing , home economics, basket weaving and PE. That must be why they grad 99 % to college and over 80 % to 4 year schools. Could it be that hard work pays off in the classroom and the field? Seems all their sports reflect this. They must draw from the Oregon border to Frenso, no wonder they have won 20 plus NCS titles.
October 12th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Big O says: ” The rushing statistics are a bit misleading”
How in the world is over 500 yds rushing in one game misleading? MV’s defense is soft, plain and simple.
October 12th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Big O: MV was in the game at the end thanks to DLS penalties. Yes DLS came up with some stops but I don’t really remember MV having any real great scoring opportunities in the second half. But really the score should have ended up 42-21. And yes I really don’t think as a group the LB’s are excellent. Without Wilkerson the defense would really struggle. Nobody else stepped up on that defense. McGovern isn’t bad as a safety but you can’t say a group is excellent unless they have more then one person who can make a play. I just don’t see that as the case this year with MV. Johnson is a good back and he was a secret although I don’t think he is anymore after the game. And while he runs hard it was very poor tackling on the part of DLS that allowed him some of those extra yards. It was a different story in the second half as DLS D stepped up and focused on wrapping up the player rather then going for the big play or turnover. again the game was great and MV played well but they need to figure something out on D because AV and Cal both can run the ball.
October 12th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
To All: MV does have some very good defensive players if you watch the game they missed alot of tackles just like DLS I think that the defense they ran is what killed them you put a 6 man front and DLS goes no where (watch the game and you will see when they were in that front minimum yrds) also McGovern plays corner not safety and I MV did have a couple of chances in the second half go to the 19 and 26 but stalled out lastly I am going to say this in the nices way possible but DLS are CHEAPSHOT artist they hit late after the guy is on the ground and try to intimidate they have done it that way for years I was at the NCS game 2 years ago and Amack killed Rich Aprial out of the backfield about 15yrds down field then this last game Wynn hit Wilkerson in the back of the legs after a play watch the game you will see…
October 12th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
they also have a flamer for an announcer… =(
October 12th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
really cheap shot artists? they hit hard and yes they do it to get inside the opponent’s head an wear them down but they are not cheapshots. any defender wants to hit hard and DLS is known for hitting hard. when they do hit late they get called for it and did as you will see by watching the game. i will not say they didn’t hit hard to send a msg because that is what they do. it’s tough physical D. when they can they are gonna try and hit someone. the tv guys were talking about it. They both talked about DLS sending a msg. never a mention about it being cheap. football is a contact sport.
ok MV had chances to get into the redzone but were nvr in the redzone the entire second half. the redzone is what i consider a great scoring chance.
October 12th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Litleman-MV’s defense has given up 1,400 yds rushing in 5 games. Good defense starts with stopping the run. If it was as easy as changing the front-it would have been done (AV tried the front you mentioned much of their game vs DLS and it didnt work)
It’s simple, MV’s front 7 got pushed all over the yard friday night by a more physical, better conditioned team.
October 12th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Junior: I’m not saying that MV’s run defense is the best. But if someone said a rb gets 400 yards, you’d expect a blowout and not a game that was one possession away from being tied.
You can’t assume that the play would have worked without the help of the penalty. If you want to play what if: If not for a last minute first half touchdown Pass by DLS and MV not converting from 1st and goal, MV goes in 28-14 at the half.
October 12th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Big Joe: Size isn’t the only attribute as you point out. That said, DLS has some very large linemen and a lot of team speed. Since they can draw athletes from a wide area, they have a lot of depth that public schools can’t compete with.
DLS has a great program, no doubt. But comparing them to public schools is comparing apples to oranges. In the EBAL there are a lot of great programs too, with dedicated, hard working kids and coaches. Any given year one of the teams can rise and compete at the highest level, but they ebb and flow with the talent pool in their local community. DLS (and the WCAL) can reload from its wider base. At least in the WCAL the catholic teams compete with each other.
October 13th, 2009 at 1:20 am
DLS doesn’t really have a choice on who they compete with when it comes to catholic schools. they would blow out St. Mary’s, SPSV, Berean Christian. In terms of large DLS lineman mmm I have to disagree with you there. Lawrence has some decent size but compared to the schools they play nationally and even locally the overall size is small they just happen to be stronger and better conditioned.
October 13th, 2009 at 7:50 am
This game was won by DLS simply because of their strength and conditioning, which showed up big time in the second half. This was a great game. Each team has great players, but as a whole, the offensive line of MV was no match for the DLS line in the second half. You could see they were tired. The DLS D-line was pushing the MV O-line back on most plays and Nottingham, due to pressure, was sacked 3 times in the 2nd half. MV was shut out in the second half. Yes, they had their opportunities, but failed. The one play that stood out to me was when the game was tied 21-21, and DLS had 4th and 15. Houston completed the pass of the year to Shapiro. That one pass was big time – he was calm in pocket, the O-line gave him time, and Shapiro ran the perfect route. It lead to the winning touchdown. Houston is no Nottingham, but Houston lead his team to the win, when Nottingham failed.
October 13th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Mike, come on, it this political retoric or an honest discussion of teams and schools. I’m frankly tired of the old lame accusation that DLS recruits. I agree with the one comment from Renegades10, if they are recruiting then why aren’t these kids averaging 30 lbs. over their opponents, the DLS JV running back, Frankie S. is about 5’5″ and 140 lbs soaking wet. The V running backs are not much bigger. If DLS was actively recruiting, wouldn’t they average at least 5’11″ and 210?
I am not an MV fan but I do recognize and appreciate great talent and MV certainly has that in Nottingham, Wilkerson, McGovern and several others and yes, they did play a fantastic first half. their passing attack was pure precision. It seems that MV has been blessed by more than talented QB’s for many years but just a few blue chip athletes don’t necessarily make a dominant football program. I hadn’t been aware of how few times MV has been in the championship hunt but thanks to one forum member who pointed that out, I now know.
Also Mike, I am not whining about the refs because calls go both ways. I was merely stating that the total yards for Terron Ward, were a bit misleading, they would have been even more spectacular had those penalties not been accessed. What I was complaining about was the MV students before and after the game who felt it necessary to obscenely harrass DLS fans, especially women and their children while entering and leaving the stadium. I will always point out poor behaviour since it’s totally reprehensible. If an adult condones these behaviours… well then, maybe that’s why it occurs in the first place. I don’t subscribe to the kids will be kids mantra.
Timer problem with the lights, give me a break. When’s the last time a high school football game ended before 9 PM on a Friday night in the fall? For it to happen repeatedly when the other team has the momentum, inexcusable. I’d love to hear another lame excuse for the lights going out from the school administration themselves, mistake or coincidence, not!
October 13th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Renegade: DLS is the dirtiest team in EBAL. Which goes against their “classy reputation.” Without naming names, my brother is on MV’s line starting both ways and from personal statements from him and other players from the MV team I can back this up. Watching replays on the TV coverage also backs this up. One of the most obvious is a DLS jumping on the quarterback after being down and throwing a punch to his hip while wearing a cast.
October 13th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Thats funny because I think were this true you would hear more about it. and if it was so obvious on the tv coverage you would think that the guys in the booth would notice it. again wynn had the late hit when johnson was on the ground and barton had the roughing the passer penalty. both were called. and i have to be honest looking at the tv coverage i don’t see anyone jumping on nottingham and throwing a punch. have you ever thought that maybe the players are looking for an excuse as to why they were physically beat in the second half?
October 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
I’m just going by personal accounts, which is probably the best one can do. I dont think any of them would deny they were worn out by DLS’s quick ground attack.