- East Bay Prep CornerEast Bay FB Poll – 10/19
By cbryson
Monday, October 19th, 2009 at 5:21 pm in East Bay Football, East Bay Prep Sports, East Bay Rankings.
Here’s the football poll for this week. Enjoy.
FOOTBALL
| Team | Record | Points | Last week |
| 1. De La Salle (8) | 4-2 | 120 | 1 |
| 2. Deer Valley | 6-0 | 109 | 3 |
| 3. Berkeley | 7-0 | 103 | 4 |
| 4. Amador Valley | 5-1 | 96 | 7 |
| 5. Encinal | 5-1 | 88 | 5 |
| 6. Monte Vista | 4-2 | 83 | 2 |
| 7. Clayton Valley | 6-0 | 68 | 6 |
| 8. California | 4-2 | 61 | 8 |
| 9. Pittsburg | 3-3 | 58 | 9 |
| 10. Granada | 3-3 | 35 | 10 |
| 11. San Ramon Val. | 4-2 | 33 | 11 |
| 12. Washington | 4-2 | 32 | 14 |
| 13. James Logan | 4-3 | 31 | 13 |
| 14. Foothill | 4-2 | 25 | 12 |
| 15. Concord | 5-1 | 12 | 15 |
Also receiving votes: Oakland Tech (5-1, 4 points), San Leandro (4-2, 2). The East Bay poll is voted upon by the prep sports staff of Bay Area News Group-East Bay.
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October 19th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Where can one find statistics for EBAL football teams earlier in the season? Looking for individual games and player stats.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
You can email me at kbonagura@bayareanewsgroup.com — I can send you the excel file I use to keep the season stats.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Once again Washington getting no love. There two losses came against teams combined 11-0. When can they get some respect anyone who has watched them play knows the D.V game they flat out got beat but the tracy game up by 7 at half and an injury to all league qb David Ross was what lost that game. Well I guess we can wait for the showdown against Logan before we start getting some love.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
just be happy theyre ranked above james logan… who is going to absolutely pulverize washington eventually
October 19th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
I think it’s gonna be a slugfest should be one too remember. Good thing it’s gonna be televised so everyone in the Bay can see that last years smack down was no joke and the huskies are a team not too sleep on in the div 1 playoffs.
October 19th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
I wonder how 7 Clayton Valley would fare if they played the 7 teams directly underneath them in this poll? 2-5 or maybe 3-4?
October 19th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
I don’t know if the Washington – Logan game will result in a smack down or pulverization, but it ought to be a pretty good game. Who is televising it? What channel?
October 19th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Clayton valley should have lost friday night, they were completely outplayed, out hit, and out coached by Mt diablo. They won because they were literally handed the game by the officials at the end. I do not believe they are a top 10 team, and would probably lose to every team in this poll
October 19th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
SOUZ,
WOW pulverize washington based on what. Really dumb comment. Logan is a great team but pulverize.Last I checked Logan has NO quality wins this years (almosts dont count).Washington beat CAL who has logan beat. Not saying logan wont win but pulverize. Oh and by the way they just gave up 37 points to a horrible and i mean horrible Balboa team.
October 20th, 2009 at 3:41 am
Where is Oakland Tech in the Polls 1-15 ?
Castlemont pride !!!
October 20th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Who has Tech beat or played to deserve to be ranked? I think they should be ranked right behind Pinole Valley.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:47 am
The EBAL has 7 teams in the top 15 poll. This is an amazing league.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Not sure how Foothill can be ranked below Logan after win against them.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:21 am
And remember, Pinole Valley got handled by Alameda.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Shhh….watch out for Alhambra. Its not just Calhoun.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:04 am
perkins as if u dont knw tech as played it beat two teams that were both rank and undefeated. MT.Diablo and ygnacio valley who are both good teams. they only gave up 12 points to both teams and held mt.diablo to under 100 total yards. and shut down patrone wood to just 53 yards rushing. and they also just shut down a good oakland high team and gave up 46 yards…. so y arent they not rank
October 20th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
My East Bay Top 20 as of Today:
1. Deer Valley: Speed is awesome and strength of schedule tough
2. Berkeley: Speed, size, talent and hard-nosed, nasty.
3. De La Salle: Got blown out once and lost a heartbreaker, still the team to beat in the EBAL, but this league is shakier a bit than previous years.
4. Amador: Loss to DLS no shame, Dons better than previous 5 years
5. Encinal: Biggest team in D-III with speed to burn, but ripe for an upset when St. Mary’s comes knocking on their door in league title match up Friday night.
6. Monte Vista: Two hard losses to excellent teams, but those losses count, one more loss and MV tumbles out of the top 12.
7. Washington: Lost to Deer Valley and Tracy, both powerhouses in 2009. They beat Cal high, so no way Cal gets ranked ahead of Huskies.
8. Clayton Valley: Undefeated. Very good but must beat Concord, YV, CP and NG
9. Cal High: Bellici doing a good job, but next 4 games are the real test. Cal could be 4-0 or 0 – 4 after these next four weeks. Probably 2-2 is best bet though.
10. San Ramon: Kessler doing a good job, only two losses to higher ranked teams.
11. Concord: High flying Minutemen like to chuck the ball and blitz. Should finish at least 8-2, might go 9-1.
12. Granada: At 3-3, they crushed Foothill, but the baby Mats are still too young and costly mistakes have hurt them. Watch out for Granada in 2010.
13. Pittsburg: 3-3 with hard losses to some very good teams, but when you lose to very good teams, that means your team is good, but not very good.
14. Foothill: 4-2, but nasty remaining schedule. 5-5 possible, 4-6 is quite doable, and 6-4 or 7-3, would be considered very good year based on brutal schedule and being out-manned across the board other than Mannion.
15. Alhambra: Dogs rough loss at beginning, but most teams have at least one Mulligan a year. Bulldogs the top team in Division III after Encinal.
16. Oakland Tech: Impressive dominance vs. YV and Mt. Diablo, and heartbreaking loss to Pinole only blemish on their record at 5 – 1.
17. Heritage: 4-2, respectable and will beat you if your team blunders at all.
18. St. Mary’s: After having been down slightly for a few years, the Panthers are loaded with size and speed with victories over: Salesian, Piedmont, Moreau and Acalanes and St Pats. Only loss to Heritage a D-I team no shame in that. If they upset Encinal Friday night they will vault into the Top 12 or 10. Wins count more than losses do.
19. San Leandro: Jekyl and Hyde team, will be unveiled fully vs. San Lorenzo Friday one way or another.
20. El Cerrito: 4-2 but real test comes vs. Berkeley. EC has a couple of athletes that could break the game in their favor but if they win, it will be 55 – 54 or such score, because no way they can stop Galvin of the YellowJackets.
October 20th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
I think KillerD’s rankings are pretty legit. I think Washington beats up on Logan. Huskies can move the ball on most anyone, although I don’t think they would beat Cal again if they line up in the playoffs. Seeing San Leandro last Sat, they definately have a few weaknesses. Arroyo’s running backs ran hard against them. San Leandro’s strength is that the QB never gets pressured, at least not yet. Congrats to San Lorenzo, definately the surprise team of the HAAL,
running for over 300 yards on O’Dowd must have had Perenon screaming at his guys.
October 20th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
who can come up with a bay area top 25? or top 12 or 16 by ncs divison?
October 20th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I agree with Matt. Washington would not beat Cal again if they played now, or later. They beat Cal by three points in Cal’s first game of the season with a new coach who was just getting to know his team. It was a fluke. I am getting tired of hearing,”but they beat Cal so they should be ranked higher than Cal. Once again, it was a fluke. Compare the leagues they play in.
October 20th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Wins count more than losses do or there is no reason to show up and play the game.
Fluke, fumble, bad call by refs, interception, ’sun was in my eyes’, when you lose, you lose.
Washington beat Cal, end of story unless they see each other again in playoffs.
October 20th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
It was also Washington’s first game of the season and I don’t think they were projected to do that well since they lost all 3 of there starting receivers to graduation. Huskies just played mistake free football almost the whole game. It was no fluke they just caught Cal the right time… no need to cry about it. =(
October 20th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Who is crying. Just stating my opinon.
October 20th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Killer D – thanks for the props to St. Mary’s, but beating Encinal would be a HUGE upset for the Panthers.
While I agree that we may be worthy of a top 20 ranking, beating the Jets will be a tall order. They are big, strong, fast and very well coached. So far, we have been the upset specialists. However, their will be no more “sneaking” up on people. Encinal has been at almost all of our games scouting us. No doubt, Coach T will have his boys well prepared as always. That being said, I also know Coach Minor and his boys will show up. Hopefully, the bright lights of such a big game won’t be too much. Encinal has been there before, St. Mary’s hasn’t been on a stage like this yet. We will see – that’s why they play the games, right?
Either way it’s been a special year – Go Panthers!
October 20th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
hitstick everyone knows berkeley & encinal handled alameda those games where over at the half. u guys tied o’dowd & celebrated did u guys tear down the goal post when u guys beat pinole?
October 20th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
St. Mary’s vs. Encinal, Berkeley vs. EC, upstart San Lorenzo vs. San Leandro some nice games for the bayside of the East Bay tunnel this week.
Concord vs. Clayton Valley is huge out East, DV vs. Pitt, and the usual EBAL slate.
Good week for East Bay prep football!
October 20th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
You have to give Wash. credit for winning that game, but winning a head to head isn’t always justification for being ranked ahead of the team you beat. Wash. was soundly beat by Tracy High, too bad the MVAL is such a stinky league, but at least the Huskies play 4 pretty good teams before league play. Teams like American and Irvington have to play bad teams in non-league to have a chance at winning one of them.
October 20th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Who would have thought that Amador can run the table and be De La Salle’s second banana in the EBAL? Well, Cal High & SRV are up and down, Livermore is Livermore, and Foothill has been a disappointment. It’s there for AV to be among the four best in the entire Eastbay. After all, Logan almost beat Deer Valley, Pittsburg is still finding itself, and Berkeley is still too unpredictable. Way to go, Dons! Good luck with the next two games and of course, the attempt to end 12 futile road years against the always-hungry-in-Ptown Falcons!
October 20th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
hitstick when was the last time alameda ever won a playoff game?
October 20th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
If Encinal gets the #1 seed over Alhambra in the D3 NCS I would be very surprised-if both finish with one loss. Strength of schedule will come into play, and if there’s any doubt to that, check out how many one-loss teams came at the hands of Alhambra. Plus, I wont even bring up the scrimmage.
Cant wait to hear what “Old meddling” has to say about this. I wonder if Encinal is still using the “fake” offense they used in the scrimmage vs. Alhambra (which AHS drubbed the field with them) Dogs Pride!
October 20th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Wow! If Alhambra is equal or close to Encinal, that means other teams could have a shot at them? St. Mary’s has nothing to loose this weekend. Could be an upset in the making? Panthers have a new field, new coach and are rolling. Encinal then has to play St. Pat’s the following week. Two tough games in a row.
Both private school programs- last game Encinal lost was to a private school- Serra. Still, Encinal is the team to be favored in league and coming off NCS champsionship. It would take a perfect game and some Jet turnovers to keep it close.
October 20th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Alhambra sucks, that league they play in is NO goood either, dubline beat miramonte, that’s sad, I don’t wanna hear that, lol.
October 20th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
I wouldn’t count out Marin Catholic for that #1 seed, either…
October 20th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
KILLER D — That’s classic, you bad mouth the EBAL, calling it ‘’shakier” this year, then proceed to rank 7 teams in the top 15. How do you arrive at the league being shakier this year?? Foothill, who will be lucky to make NCS this year, destroys Logan, one of two schools fighting for the MVAL title. Cal’s loss to Washington aside, where is your hard facts for this asssesment.
October 20th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
If encinal goes 9-1 they get the number one seed marin number 2
October 20th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Who is gonna beat Encinal?? St. Mary’s – please! Encinal will shut down Lovett and Brown-Ryan. There is a reason no one heard of either of ‘em before this year. Encinal D line against St. Mary O-line – Ouch! Look, St. Mary has had a nice run – but all good things come to an end. Encinal – tell the truth – is anyone even worried about SM?? NOT!!!
October 20th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Knights, Do you really think that a scrimmage really means something? To you i guess it does. There is a good Chance that Alhambra and Encinal will see each other in the playoffs. Remember what Iverson said about practice? St.Mary’s will be coming to play and we’ll be waiting. We look past no one and play em’ one at a time. Jet Pride!
October 20th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
And Knights… I think you guys should worry about the rest of your schedule before you worry about the Jets. Jet Pride!
October 20th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
yall better listen to old meddling coach he knows his stuff bout Encinal
October 20th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
How ya doing Camper? How is school treating you? Jet Pride!
October 20th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
I’m not at school right now I got injured on the last day of 3 a days so my coach and I decided tht I won’t start my clock until January..so I’m bak out here in Cali working and rehabing my hamstring so I can be ready for spring ball
October 20th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Yeah my son dislocated his kneecap so i know what you mean. Well i know you’ll be ok You are a hardnosed guy.
Jet Pride!
October 20th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Thanks for the support….Keep fighting them haters off the Jets…I am very impressed with that program…The greatest bay area turnaround in history
October 20th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
You know i gotta talk up for my boys,But their play speaks for it’s self. Jet Pride!
October 20th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Outsider/Killer D,
So Killer D, expanding on your logic, Cal’s loss 28-21 in week 1- and it was THAT close with D.O scoring late in the 4th (Wash “victory” by 2 pts was week 0) to THE (unofficial)NOW NUMBER FOUR RANKED TEAM IN NOR CAL, (Del Oro), without the Grizz’s #1 RB means nada in the discussion??! BTW, Cal’s now leading rusher got zero touches vs Wash and two vs D.O.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/calhisports/0-11-83/New-NorCal—SoCal-Overall-FB-Rankings.html
Got to play ‘em all this year in the EBAL… end of week 10 is “end of story.”
p.s. I still like your predictions tho’.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Safety,
Alhambra sucks? You sound like a Raider fan saying the Broncos suck. You can say you think Encinal and Marin Catholic are better, but to say Alhambra sucks (at 6-1) is ignorant. You are probably an Encinal player.
Old Meddling,
I remember what Iverson said about practice, I also see what he is going through now. What’s your point? His comment virtually turned one the greatest ever into a cautionary tale.
Stay strong in the BSAL, coach…check out the combined W/L record in that league…check out the opponents. I know you cant control that, and must play in the league you are dealt. But I do remember when you said the Encinal offense was a mock offense, which was pathetic in lieu of a whooping. Dogs would put up 500 yars of O against Encinal…cant wait!
October 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
It is fair to describe the EBAL as shakier than some previous years, but it can and is still the best football league in the east bay, and it should be with DLS and schools over 2,000 kids. That is sound and correct, when DLS loses two games in its first three, regardless and then MV drops two, Foothill drops two and Cal high all drop two games, same with San Ramon, then yes it is shakier but still numero uno for leagues.
Glad some of you like my Top 20, and I look forward to reading yours, and those from the detractors too.
I gave it my best shot to dilgently put a Top 20 out.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Wow! Sounds like some good smack talk here between Alhambra and Encinal. 500 yards in offence? Wow! That was a straight shot to good team in Encinal. Alhambra is backing up the talk with the wins. I hope these two teams get to see eachother in the playoffs!
October 20th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Lets remember, this is just two fans (maybe one, if old meddling is STILL coaching), so its not as though the two schools have bad blood. I am sure both teams will have a certain level of respect for each other after/if the game is played.
Its just my opinion. I throw the jabs in there because back in August, when AHS BEAT UP the Jets, Old Meddling said it Encinal was using a “mock offense used to throw off teams that were scouting them.” Which I still think is a chickensh*t response, as opposed to, “yep, we got whipped up on, and we’ll learn from it and get better.”
October 20th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Yea. I remember that blog. That was a lame excuse but as we all know here that the summer means nothing. Yea I don’t know about the jets defence because they did allow Adonis Smith to go over 250! Plus other 100 yard rushers this season.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
maybe mock offense was the wrong choice of wording for him but it is true that teams don’t unveil the whole play book. they use a few basic plays and try to find some chemistry and gauge where they are at. and you can’t base anything on scrimmages otherwise Pitt would have beaten DLS in NCS last year. if serra is not putting 500 yards up on encinal neither will alhambra.
old meddling- quite a role reversal for you guys this year. last year you guys were the upstarts, this year you got the targets on your back. best of luck to encinal this year.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
They might not of had 500 yards but they let one rusher go for 250+! And I remember El Cerritos RB had a big day and so did Alameda Highs boy went for over 100.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
ya Alhambra’s guy is good but he is definitely not Adonis Smith of Serra. El Cerrito’s RB ran for 89 yards but caught for 150 in large part due to two big plays of over 60 yards. Alameda’s guy ran for 123 on 27 carries. Serra is the best team Encinal will play all season by far in all aspects of the game including the line thats make it possible for backs to have huge games.
October 21st, 2009 at 5:16 am
Outsider quit crying
Let me say this if cal played washington again they probably would win. But the bottom line is they lost end of story there are no excuses. I hate when people make excuses like this running back got 0 touches and this player was hurt. Last I checked football is a violent sport and people get hurt. Im sure every team can make excuses like my team had injuries, or so and so was sick, and the list goes on.
People that say CAL should be ranked ahead of Washington because they are playing better as of late well i could understand that if there overall records were different than maybe you could throw head to head out. However they are both 4-2 with the tie breaker going to washington.
Like I said once before game played again cal probably wins but that being said if the ny giants played the patriots again in 2008 superbowl than i’m sure the patriots win. I guess since the patriots had a bad game they should get a free pass and still get the lombardi trophy.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:54 am
You guys are sleeping on Eddie Gillies Jr…Against Ignasio Valley he shut down their bast receiver. Killin fools at shut sown corner. At wide receiver he gets at least 30 to 40 yards a catch when they throw to him…
Don’t Sleep
October 21st, 2009 at 7:13 am
who is cals leading rusher? there fb is the catalyst.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:38 am
ManDown,Yes Cunningham of alameda did get over 100 yrs but did it help? And Knights,Yes your guys did look good at the scrimmage but as i said,Does it mean anything really? That is why you play the game. Alhambra is having a good season after last year but lets wait until we see each other in the playoffs. Yeah we seem to have targets on our backs but as i said Knights,beat the teams you need to beat before you look for us and we’ll see you in the playoffs. Lastly,yeah i said what i said Knights but don’t ride the horse til he’s dead. Jet Pride!
October 21st, 2009 at 8:55 am
Run between the tackles against the jets! Encinals D and special teams are not very good. Do that and you have a chance St. Mary
October 21st, 2009 at 9:27 am
You can look at EBAL results in a different way. Rather than ’shaky’ perhaps all the EBAL teams are getting better so one or two teams no longer dominate. Better competition, better games!
October 21st, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Encinal D is actually pretty good, so stop hating. If you guys are still arguing about a scrimmage that took place between Encinal and Alhambra it is really stupid and I will tell you why. I use to play at Encinal and that year we scrimmaged a Salesian team with a guy you may all know name Jahvid Best. We outscored Salesian and felt pretty good about our self’s going into the season, but that year we went 2-8. While Salesian went on to go 10-3. The main point I am trying to get across is scrimmages do not mean anything, if they did they would be recorded as a game.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Old former meddling coach, Did you use to coach at Encinal?
And always JET PRIDE
October 21st, 2009 at 12:45 pm
No,I first started at Oakland High, Kennedy in richmond, Had a very brief stop with Coach Carter and Coached Woman’s Football. Never At Encinal, I just mentor the kids and i’m a friend to the Coaching Staff.I like what they are doing there and Son was a member of the NCS Team. Jet Pride!
October 21st, 2009 at 1:33 pm
KILLER D –
I agree with your assesment the EBAL is still the best league in the area (and it was before DLS came in), but your logic as to why it’s shakey, is well, shakey.
**De La Salle loses 2 of its first three
Wow, to two top teams from other states – hardly a measuring stick for determining the strength of the league.
**MV drops two and Foothill drops two
They dropped those games in the EBAL, further showing how tough the league is. Had they dropped those games outside of league, your argument would be much stronger.
Cal High — don’t have answer for those losses…..
Keep making your points, it’s always fun to have discussion…..
October 21st, 2009 at 1:58 pm
spartan510
Hey is that you Mike?
October 21st, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Yo Mama – not sure what the private school thing was you were sayin about Encinal St. Pat’s and St. Mary’s are not Serra. The way I see it, those private school boys might be a little scurred (mispelled on purpose) facing us public schoolers. Jet’s are up by 2 scores before the game starts on rep alone.
Herewegonow – run between the tackles? who SM got to run between the tackles?
I watch a lot of bsal games and there is a big gap between St. Pat’s or SM’s. I love an underdog as much as the next guy, but miracles only happen in the bible.
October 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
when your talking #1 seed for d-3 everyone likes to talk strength of schedule. u can’t pick ur league so i base it on non-league not impressed with alhambra so it’s between encinal & marin catholic.
October 21st, 2009 at 3:27 pm
i saw the film with alameda & encinal that kid cunningham got 40 yards of that 120 in the 4th down 34-3! alameda i mean kemp had to get his boy his yards!
October 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Guru (self proclaimed),
I dont care if you are impressed by Alhambra’s non league. Look at the whole 10 games. I am very aware a scrimmage does not factor into any discussion, if you read my posts, it was more of a shot at old meddling.
If you think any team in the BSAL (other than Encinal) would have one win in the DFAL, you are not worth responding to.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:03 pm
guru – how do you compare Encinal rb’s with alameda and st. mary’s? I think the 3 backs for the jets are overlooked. they have to share carries.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
“If you think any team in the BSAL (other than Encinal) would have one win in the DFAL, you are not worth responding to.”
I don’t expect a response based on this sentence, but Piedmont (BSAL) beat Dougherty Valley (DFAL), and St. Mary’s (BSAL) beat Acalanes (DFAL).
October 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
got to jump in on this one….
Good”Knights” – “HS Football Fan Says” got you on this one. I saw the SM’s Acalanes film. Wasn’t ever close. SM (BSAL) smashed Acalanes (DFAL). Piedmont (smashed by Encinal and SM) beat Dougherty Valley. You might want to brush up on your BSAL knowledge before you run that smack.
Acalanes was sloooooww.
While I don’t think anyone will beat Encinal in the bsal – SM and St. Pat’s are good teams – just not good enuff for those supersonic Jets baby!!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 5:49 pm
St. Pat’s would have run away with DFAL teams- I watched them in 2006 and 2007 when they realed off 21 straight.
They had five ( count ‘em) backs over 1000 yds. those 2 years, with 2 over 1700 yds. The DFAL is way too slow for that kind of running back talent, the Veer would have rolled them over. Both years saw the Bruins average over 450 yds. per game. Bye the way, the beat the heck out of a lot of teams out of league.
Encinal in the last 2 years would make a mockery out of some of those DFAL teams.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:00 pm
70, I stand corrected
October 21st, 2009 at 7:18 pm
That is true. The Encinal RBs get over looked because they share carries. I’ve seen about 4 differnt names in the paper that play RB for Encinal.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:00 pm
At least 4 not counting Duckett. Jet Pride!
October 21st, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Yeah it is me. I am guessing its Kamaka?
October 21st, 2009 at 10:24 pm
A comment about Encinal/Alhambra: During the scrimmage, Encinal had at the time only 18-20 players. Their roster now shoes 26. Is it possible that these extra 6 players have turned the team around? Are they linemen, backs, or other positions. (Need this answered by a Knowledgeable Jet Fan)
Cause at the scrimmage, Encinal was easily handled and the line is the line. These positions don’t hold back just because it’s a scrimmage. If the 6 extra players were now a part of the line or back positions, it would be a completely new game situation and would make for pretty good football.
Of course both teams have to get their first and Alhambra doesn’t take any game for granted due to injuries on that team throughout the season. Good luck to both squads!
October 21st, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Hey Whistle: Your words and then my reply…
I agree with your assesment the EBAL is still the best league in the area (and it was before DLS came in), but your logic as to why it’s shakey, is well, shakey.
**De La Salle loses 2 of its first three
Wow, to two top teams from other states – hardly a measuring stick for determining the strength of the league.
**MV drops two and Foothill drops two
They dropped those games in the EBAL, further showing how tough the league is. Had they dropped those games outside of league, your argument would be much stronger.
Cal High — don’t have answer for those losses…..
My Reply on why EBAL STILL best league but shakier 2009
1. DLS is 1-2 after two non-league games, makes them weaker entering the EBAL league play
2. DLS beats MV and AV, which means MV and AV weaker than DLS
3. Cal starts 0-2 non-league then beats West (1-5), wins three in a row vs. EBAL which means those 3 EBAL teams are less strong than Washington and Del Oro (both who beat Cal)
4. Foothill lost to Granada and San Ramon: (Cal high beat both) so that puts Foothill below Cal, who already lost twice outside of league
5. Granada lost to Sierra (Div II team), but crushed Foothill
Again, EBAL still the best league but it is Shakier in 2009, things do happen year to year, nothing is stagnant in high school football.
Stay Tuned on Thursday for My Big Game Overview and Predictions.
KillerD
October 21st, 2009 at 11:30 pm
to DW..agree, way to go Dons! Where did you get that record..12 futile road years…?
to FHSFan..YES, BETTER COMPETITION, BETTER GAMES!
October 21st, 2009 at 11:38 pm
to DW…forgot my first part..”who would have thought that Amador can run the table and be DLS’s second banana in the EBAL?” Not liking that second banana comment. If you kept tabs on AV, you would have known that this year’s team would make a statement!
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:38 am
Lets not forget how encinal beat a goood el cerito team that beat campo, too, that leaugue is wayy down this year knights, and I don’t get how ur soo jucied off a scrimage, win a NCS title, before you can talk to me, or even throw ur name in the number 1 seed race, if anything marin has a good case, not alhambra
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:50 am
cant wait for the playoffs to start, lots of smack talk, div 1 schools watch out b high is ready, too fast and physical for yall, want to see alhambra and encinal meet
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:25 am
KillerD’s…
Big Game Weekend Showdowns League-by-League Predictions:
ACCAL – Berkeley at El Cerrito:
Berkeley’s most impressive win is vs. a Pittsburg team that has some issues, and is obviously not as strong as last year. The win over Ponderosa and a winless Freedom team are not going to earn gold stars, but a solid win vs. a surging Alameda (beat Pinole) earns marks. The trumpeters East of the Tunnel always claim, “Berkeley doesn’t play a tough schedule” yet many larger school foes (not all) from the 680/24 corridor avoid traveling out to the Yellow Jackets to take them on during the regular season.
El Cerrito (1/3 the size of Berkeley) has only one respectable victory (over a subdued Campo), the rest of EC’s wins vs. very troubled programs (again no fault of EC).
How I See It:
The ONLY way El Cerrito defeats the Yellow Jackets is to benefit from at least 3 turnovers (and turn them into scores), and have at least one special teams Touchdown. Berkeley sensation Galvin will have 200 yards on the ground, and EC will have to not fool itself into thinking they can pound the rock on Berkeley’s nasty defense. EC will have to throw the ball to set up the run, and just hope they have more big plays, trick plays and everything else mentioned above to win. If EC wins, it will be a wild-west shootout, and last team with the football wins.
But, Berkeley appears to have re-tooled their offense (a bit more diversified in scheme) and if EC puts ‘8 in the box’ all night long, the Jackets will throw enough to hurt the Gauchos.
Prediction: Berkeley 34 vs. El Cerrito 17
BSAL – St. Mary’s at Encinal:
St. Mary’s opponents’ avg. power rating by CalPreps is (10.55), & Encinal opponents’ (4.65), so there is a strength of schedule in favor of the revitalized St. Mary’s, but not everything can be deciphered by computers and actuarial diligence.
Encinal pummeled a good El Cerrito team, lost to a subdued Serra program. Then they beat Alameda, and struggled in the first half against an injury-riddled Piedmont. St. Mary’s opening loss to Division I (but smallish) Heritage was to be expected. But since then, the Panthers have 5 straight home game wins, over Acalanes (improving fast), Salesian, Piedmont and St. Patrick’s on the last play of the game, and a much better Moreau…destiny maybe?
How I See It:
Both team’s Defensive stats are only 20-yards different, and 8-points apart in scoring. That points to Offensive production & Special Teams as Keys to the Game. On Paper, the Panthers & Jets are nearly identical in Yards per game, BUT Encinal has a serious problem throwing the football with consistency, and they will not be able to run the ball only 5 times in the game to win. St. Mary’s is far more balanced on offense and the Jets cannot load up the box to stop Brown and ignore the pass. Give a special teams touchdown to each side Friday night – and they negate each other.
Prediction: St. Mary’s 30 vs. Encinal 17
BVAL – Deer Valley at Pittsburg
Many people now say Pittsburg is surging and back on its winning ways – Not me.
The Pirates have incredible history (much deserving) but 2009 will not go down as one of their better years, again Wins count more than losses do – and when you lose to Very Good teams, it simply means your team is Not very good – but just good.
Deer Valley whipped Washington and beat Logan (up & down in 2009), and experts looking at this game as the “true test” of DV. Problem is, Deer Valley understands this game is for the League Title – and DV also knows the league title goes through Pittsburg – the Victory train can only be boarded in P-town with a solid win by DV Friday night.
How I See It:
Deer Valley is first in the BVAL in team defense and Pittsburg is last – unusual for the very-well coached Galli program – which means not only have they played very good teams, but talent level overall on Pitt not quite up to Championship caliber.
In their 3 losses to quality teams Pitt is only averaging 20.3 points per game, But it will take a lot more than 21 points for them to beat Deer Valley.
Prediction: Deer Valley 35 vs. Pittsburg 17
DVAL – Concord at Clayton Valley:
The football world is a better place when the once proud Concord Minutemen program is doing well. With the Mt. Diablo district upside down financially, it’s wonderful to see them up again, thanks to the great job of Coach Hamilton and his staff.
No matter where he coaches, Herc Pardi keeps on using his “winning ugly” ways to produce championships and hard fought wins, and the tradition he’s built at Clayton Valley is solid.
How I See It:
When Concord traveled to San Ramon and got beat, it took them two-thirds of the game to realize they could play with the larger Wolves team, and when they played with urgency they moved the ball and scored points – but it was too little to late. They followed that lesson with a resounding win vs. College Park, and the Golden Dome helmets of the Minutemen Offensive players are now blazing into the end zone at a rapid pace. Concord relies on its offense to win games but their defense is overlooked and will provide problems for the Clayton Valley run game offense.
Concord will load the box on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down and short, the only time they will look for the pass is on 3rd and Long or when they get more than 14-points ahead of the vaunted Eagles. Concord will outscore the more limited Eagles offensive squad and the Eagles not built to play catch up.
Prediction: Concord 34 vs. Clayton Valley 18
EBAL – Cal High at Amador Valley:
Anytime a new, young and first-time head coach takes over a program, it is Always difficult to do well out of the gate, and made tougher when viewed through the merciless microscope of the hard EBAL fans, parents, media and coaching wannabees. But, new Cal coach Bellici has done a very good job of re-righting the ship doomsdaylisting after two hard-fought losses vs. established programs, and he has the Grizzlies humming with good wins vs. San Ramon & Granada.
For several years Amador fans have been saying, ‘this is the year we fulfill our potential’ only to be sent home shaking their heads and mumbling themselves to sleep. But, Coach Sira has a good history and was humble enough to dump the Fly offense, switch to a more diverse Spread Option attack that still uses a nibble or two of the Fly. And, the Don defense is stout.
How I See It:
Cal opponents’ avg. power rating is (25.5), while the Don’s enemy avg. is only (17.1). Clearly Cal has played a tough schedule and so has Amador.
Again, wins count more than losses do, so Amador’s loss to DLS was a nice respectable showing on all fronts – but they did not win. Good wins vs. Granada and Monte Vista have put them on track for a possible 2nd place finish in the EBAL, and a very high seed in the playoffs. Amador’s defense did a very good job against Monte Vista’s air raid, and showed flexibility in completely shutting down Lightening Bolt Atkinson III from Granada. Cal has three very hard road games left beginning with Amador, then get their last home game vs. Foothill (whom they should beat this year), followed by closing road games vs. MV and DLS (which will be dogfights all the way).
Prediction: Amador Valley 21 vs. Cal High 17
HAAL – San Lorenzo at San Leandro:
Back in 2003 the Rebels of San Lorenzo took their game to the highest level and played for an NCS title in the Oakland Coliseum…but that was a long time ago, and it has been a horrific stretch for the re-born Rebels since then. Coach Brad Bowers excellent San Leandro Pirates program had a quaky start, but losing against Bellarmine and VC of San Jose was expected, just not with nearly zero production of their offense. However, Bowers has won many HAAL titles, and he knows how to adjust, the Pirates tinkered, got healthier and have routinely spanked their easier opponents since then.
How I See It:
San Lorenzo played a good Mt. Diablo team tough before losing, and their outstanding win vs. Bishop O’Dowd was their biggest since the 2003 storybook season (even though BOD is down compared to their best years by everyone’s account). By overcoming the psychological aspect of winning vs. BOD, it has energized the Rebels, and they are on top of the world, feeling they can beat anybody with their stingy defense & ground chuck running attack.
But, glorious dreams usually end, and luck runs dry when facing a better team 99% of the time.
Prediction: San Leandro 30 vs. San Lorenzo 14
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:36 am
Go KillerD great comments, thanks for the support,and believing in the Jackets, Run Rickey Run, Go Jackets!
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:40 am
Killer D – you are awesome. I don’t know who you are or how you are so knowledgeable about all these high schools, but it is fun.
That being said, even as a Panther fan, I think you are off on our BSAL match up. 30 – 17?? Are you trying to get us killed? Thanks for the bulletin board material for Encinal.
By the way, it’s Brown-Ryan, not Brown.
I don’t think the special teams TD is possible. Since Brown Ryan broke for an 85 yd KR on Salesian, no one has kicked to him or Lovett. Lovett might be able to get a punt return – he is dynamic on PR’s.
I agree they can’t load up the box to stop the run, but the can put pressure on QB and disrupt his chance to get Lovett the rock.
In the end, it comes down to the unsung heros of all football. The linemen! If SM O-line can give Brown-Ryan a little room to get loose, he will get his yards. That’s a big if. If the O-line can keep Torres upright enough to get Lovett the ball – he will get his yards.
But then, if SM O-line can’t stop that devestating Encinal rushing attack – all of this is a mute point. St. Mary’s run D has been under rated all year. The power of Encinal run attach is potent. So much so, that the passing deficiency has not been an issue. Something tells me the passing game of the Jets might surface Friday night.
Anyway, I am hopeful of only one thing. A close contest that shows off the BSAL.
Go Panthers! I hope Killer D is right.
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 am
Killer D – last point on SM for your consideration on future posts:
The Heritage game was interesting. The score was lopsided, but it really was closer than the score indicated. I guarantee you Heritage was concerned at half – knowing they were in a fight. They came out in the 2nd half and put it away.
That was SM’s first game. It was Torres first game as a Varsity starting QB. While he had 3 picks, it was obvious to me as a fan that he was going to be a good QB. He showed a lot of moxy and poise. In that game, he had 3 or 4 impressive3rd and 4th down pass completions for 1st downs. One of his picks was returned for TD. I told my son (SM player to be named later, LOL) that he had a good QB to work with. That has proven to be true.
Heritage is a big school. A good team. I think they would beat SM 6 or 7 times out of 10. However, this SM team has grown up a lot since then. A loss is a loss a loss, but there is no doubt this one made the Panthers much better.
Go Panthers!
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Killer D has left the Blog until Saturday
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:26 am
KillerD that was some good stuff for some great games this weekend.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
Safety,
A good El Cerrito team lost to a BAD SF City team, Lincoln HS. Your logic doesnt add up.
Also, Alhambra has won NCS championshipS (plural, as in multiple). Albeit, it was a while ago. Just want to school you on some facts you may not know.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
This IS the weekend to be a fan of east bay high school football!
Killerd, your breakdown is raw.
I agree with all your picks except for Concord vs. Clayton, my Eagles will physically punish Concord and football is a game of dominance.
Good takes though
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:01 pm
spartan510
nice lol yea its me
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Mike. old former meddling coach is Williams Dad hes on the sideline everygame
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Killer D, BOLD prediction for the St. Marys vs Encinal game
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Oh snap really. That’s pretty tight though.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Yeap lol i didnt know you guys played against Jahved best did he graduate that year? Cuz we played Salesian the next year was kool
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:21 am
Yeah he was class of 2007. He ran it I believe 5 times for over a 100yds and 2tds easy, no surprise. But we did outscore them that year.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:50 am
Down goes the Panthers.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:32 am
Perkin – maybe so….but maybe not…
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
Spartan510
thats tight man, You guys had the squad that year even though you guys went 2-8 no one knows how much talent you guys had that year with You Borbon Stewart VINCE dude you guys were Beasts. You guys made us jv better that year and we went 8-1 because I remember every practice you guys didnt go easy on us and then we went 9-3 to the 2nd roud of the playoffs and then last year they went 13-0
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 am
Headlines tommorrow morning could read: ” Jets Shot Down over the Island by Panther Guns.”
If I were Encinal fans I would respect opponents a little more. It’s one thing to be confident, it’s another to be bragarts.
Bye the way, players should not be on the blog, they should be doing homework and studying for school, unless you want something to happen like the OAL and have all those eligable grade issues.
Old Meddling Coach, you’ve been around, did you allow players to shoot their mouths?
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
Yo Mama
I dont think their are any Jet players on the blog so chill lol
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I’m a Panther fan for life, but it ain’t braggin if you back it up. So far the Jets back up all the smack they blog.
Go Panthers – Shock the World!!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Jet4ever52, The 05 and 06 Vets didn’t go easy on you guys but they were solidly in the corner of the JV and freshman programs. They wanted you guys to do well. I remember Big Vince,Simms and James Knocking Matt around like a pinball but aways encouraging him and the rest of you guys as well. Yes they did have a great impact on the NCS 08-09 team. Yo mama,If u come to a game,You’ll see our guys play hard,help other players up(after they knock them down) and they don’t taunt. The Coaches would skin them alive But at the same time what is wrong with celebrating a good play.I know some players come to look at the blogs to see what people like you have to say but no current Jet Player posts on these blogs. They always tell me they talk with their pads. Yo mama,last week it was Swett,This week St.Mary’s. You just want my guys to lose right? And lastly,Anyone i coached didn’t have to brag,Their play did all the talking like these guys from Alameda. Jet Pride!
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
OFM Coach – I think it’s all fun. That being said I hope you don’t think St. Mary’s is Swett. While I have consistently said beating you all tonight would be a BIG upset – we ain’t Swett.
Last year my son was a junior. You all put it on us pretty good. But you are right. There were NO instances of taunting or unsportsmanship. You all are doing great things at Encinal. Great things. As a public school kid myself (Washington HS in SF) I am very proud of what you all are doing for your kids. Keep being proud and confident. You have certainly earned that.
If you see me there tonight with a red #22 jersey – say hello. I will be rooting for my favorite player on SM – my son.
Go Panthers.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
By the way – I don’t think “unsportsmanship” is a word. You know what I mean… lol. I told you I went to public school!
October 24th, 2009 at 12:13 am
According to my computer clock, it is now Saturday, October 24th, so here goes a look at my predictions for Big Game Weekend Showdowns:
What a Great Friday night it was!
ACCAL – Berkeley at El Cerrito:
Prediction: Berkeley (Yes)
And a dominant win, which in reality is what it should have been too for Yellow Jackets.
BSAL – St. Mary’s at Encinal:
Prediction: St. Mary’s (No)
Encinal physical and fast, just too much for Panthers in the end, but good strong showing for St. Mary’s. Congratulations to Encinal, they earned a hard fought win, and now must regroup for St. Pats.
BVAL – Deer Valley at Pittsburg
Prediction: Deer Valley (Yes)
Pittsburg had a LOT to prove to east bay football fans and they Did Not do it. They did however show they can play hard vs. the top teams, and keep it close. But Coach Galli understands his team is good, but it is not very, very good.
DVAL – Concord at Clayton Valley:
Prediction: Concord (Yes)
The Concord Minutemen DESTROYED a tough Clayton team, and Concord is now the team to beat in Division II.
EBAL – Cal High at Amador Valley:
Prediction: Amador Valley (Yes)
Cal high punched the Dons in the mouth for the entire first half. But, Coach Sira adjusted at half time, and regrouped, this year’s Amador team is solid. And it shows, because Monte Vista lost to Foothill tonight after being pounded physically by AV last week. No breathers in EBAL play.
HAAL – San Lorenzo at San Leandro:
Prediction: San Leandro (Yes)
Rebels dreams of an HAAL league title squashed vs. the far better San Leandro Pirates, who crushed the Rebels from the opening kickoff to the final whistle.
KillerD’s Totals From Big Game Showdown Weekend:
Berkeley – Yes
St. Mary’s – No
Deer Valley – Yes
Concord – Yes
AV – Yes
San Leandro – Yes
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5 picks Correct
1 pick Incorrect
Gotta love high school football!
October 24th, 2009 at 2:43 am
old former meddling coach
Yea great impact. They helped alot knocked us down and picked us back up.
tough win tonight Jets!
October 24th, 2009 at 5:31 am
I was at the Encinal vs St. Mary’s game last night. Never seen a team more have to fight agains the refs then the Jets. I sweat they tried to give them the game. It really wasn’t as close as the score at all. Call after call, & luck after luck went St. Mary’s way. Jets put up 500 yards not counting plays called back which would have put them well over 600 with 2 more TDs.
I’m not hating St. Mary’s fans but damn your O got totally shut down other then the 14 points & 2 good drives you earned. Minor totally abandoned his game plan & went to the same play over & over for not much Quick hitch to a WRs. Run game shut down. 150 yards of O is all they eanred. 77 yards on one of the luckiest plays ever. Some good plays made by St. Mary’s WRs though. QB played a hell of a game. Minor wore his own team out by trying to No Huddle with 20 players. Stupid.
October 24th, 2009 at 7:26 am
We heard Encinal lost their starting Fullback and Middle Linebacker to a major leg injury and he is done for the year.
Who will replace him vs. St. Pats?
If St. Pats beats Encinal, does that mean a three-way tie for first place in BSAL?
October 24th, 2009 at 9:14 am
U heard wrong he’ll be back for the play-offs KillerD. Jets still have more then enough fire power for St. Pats. Last night was a wake up call. That program is know for winning without players. Milton vs Novato. Sashingotn vs Piedmont. Allen & Duckett last year vs Marin Catholic. Amiri last year vs St. Pats. Amiri for all of this year until Piedmont.
I hear that Matt Meno will be back next week. Starting MLB & RB vs EC, Serra, Alameda.
October 24th, 2009 at 9:23 am
That being said about St. Mary’s terrible job by Encinal finishing out the game. Totally self destructed. Fumbles, Picks in the Red Zone(terrible call by their offensive coordinator). Not a lot of discipine on the Jets team. Samething against Piedmont. It ain’t the plays, it ain’t the defense, it ain’t the Special Teams. Executing plays, Not jumping offsides, & unsportsman like penalties. Take care of the ball & shut your mouths or the Jets are 2nd round & out.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I was at the Jets game, very fast and physical, the left tackle Josh is huge, wish him the best, keep hitting the books DBo, and the sky is the limit, just think if he didnt transfer from Berkeley, what an addition he would of been to the current Jackets O-Line. Coach Joe’s Jets are playing well,Duckett needs to get Rickey to the Cougs with him.
October 24th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
yea that game was too close but St.Marys run game was shut down and Nix finally turned around against Lovett and picked it off after about 3 times the ball was thrown to Lovett and Lovett was so close to making a catch that would bring them to the endzone. To me it looked like I was watching the El Cerrito game all over again without the penalties because St.Marys just aired the ball out waiting for Nix to pick it off but Nix wasnt turning his head to see the ball and got lucky Lovett didnt catch it so but St.Marys was shutdown this game only reason it was close was because of stupid stupid penalties
October 24th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
when do the new rankings come out?
October 24th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
New poll comes out in the paper each Tuesday and gets early released here on the blog Monday evening.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
ianyone have a link to the division 2 rankings
November 6th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
lets get things straight here first off the Dfal is a tougher league it has better teams like alhambra, campolindo acalanes miramonte and las lomas with the exception of Dougherty Valley. The BSAL has a few good teams like encinal , st.marys and st pats but teams like swett,piedmont,moreau catholic and kennedy(richmond) and albany are all free wins. encinal is in a league of d4 teams.