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Fearless predictions
By Jimmy Durkin
Thursday, October 22nd, 2009 at 6:13 pm in Uncategorized.
You Alameda County folks are in for a treat this week as I’m going to try to give a little breakdown of all the games in my primary coverage area, which is basically the ACCAL, BSAL and OAL. I’ll toss in a note on the St. Elizabeth-Salesian game and try to give a little breakdown on the HAAL and MVAL, although since I haven’t seen any teams from those leagues, I won’t be able to provide as much info. But I’ll throw out my score predictions just for the heck of it.
ACCAL
Berkeley (7-0, 3-0) at El Cerrito (4-2, 2-0), 5 p.m. Friday
It’s the Game of the Week and the Game of the Year in the ACCAL. El Cerrito figures to be the team with the best chance to give No. 3 ranked Berkeley a run for its money, although I still have to consider the Yellowjackets a heavy favorite. The X-factor is the health of the East Bay’s leading rusher Rickey Galvin. He sat out last week against Richmond with a sore ankle and is expected to play. If the conditions are sloppy at El Cerrito, that could slow him down and give the Gauchos a chance. Andre Williams needs to have a huge game for El Cerrito also to keep it close. Still, considering what I saw from El Cerrito when they played Encinal, I have to think they’ll be overmatched in this game. Score: Berkeley 31, El Cerrito 17.
Actual score: Berkeley 50, El Cerrito 0.
De Anza (0-7, 0-3) at Richmond (2-5, 1-2), 7 p.m. Friday
De Anza has minus-38 rushing yards this season. ‘Nuff said. Oilers pick up their third win of the year. Score: Richmond 22, De Anza 6.
Actual score: Richmond 22, De Anza 17.
Hercules (2-4, 0-2) at Pinole Valley (4-1, 1-1), 7 p.m. Friday
Think the Spartans will be a little upset after they came out flat in a loss to Alameda? They’ll get their revenge in this one. Score: Pinole Valley 31, Hercules 6.
Actual score: Pinole Valley 47, Hercules 22.
BSAL
St. Patrick-St. Vincent (4-2, 2-1) vs. Albany (1-5, 0-3) at Cougar Field, 5:30 p.m. Friday
Bruins are coming off an unexpected bye thanks to Kennedy’s forfeit and subsequent cancelling of their season. They won’t have a problem in this one against the team with the league’s last ranked offense and defense. Score: St. Pat’s 48, Albany 13.
Actual score: St. Pat’s 41, Albany 7. (Pretty darn close)
St. Mary’s (5-1, 3-0) at Encinal (5-1, 3-0), 7 p.m. Friday
Another huge game for this area as this game will likely decide the BSAL title. My hunch is that this St. Mary’s team is better than last year’s st. Pat’s team (which until about this point of last season was the other major contender with Encinal). I don’t expect a repeat of last year’s Halloween game when Encinal routed the Bruins. Instead, I’d expect something closer to Encinal’s game with Piedmont last year where the Highlanders kept it close before Encinal pulled away in the fourth quarter. The Jets have a huge advantage playing in “The Swamp” and if the field is wet (it’s been known to have puddles even if it hasn’t rained in a week or so), that could slow down Demetrius Brown-Ryan and Najee Lovett a bit. The Jets running tandem of Tyrone Duckett, Jon Trodder, Jonathan Allen and others are used to the conditions and shouldn’t be as affected. Score: Encinal 34, St. Mary’s 22.
Actual score: Encinal 34, St. Mary’s 27.
John Swett (3-3, 1-2) at Moreau Catholic (3-3, 2-1), 7 p.m. Friday
I like what the Mariners have going this year, considering they had only won 10 games combined since 2001 prior to this season. While it could be said that they’ve yet to earn a “good win”, the close game against San Lorenzo is looking more impressive as the Rebels are tied for the HAAL lead. Swett’s a funny team because when they’ve been overmatched, they’ve been blown out. When they’ve overmatched a team, they’ve blown them out. The only close game was a 7-6 win over St. Elizabeth. I think this will be another close game and I think Moreau picks up its best win thus far of the year. Score: Moreau Catholic 21, John Swett 20.
Actual score: Moreau Catholic 39, John Swett 29.
OAL
Castlemont (2-3, 1-0) at Skyline (2-4, 0-1), 3:30 p.m. Friday
This is the lone matchup of teams that won last week and the winner can essentially clinch an OAL playoff spot (While it’s mathematically possible, I don’t know if there’s ever been a year where a two-win team didn’t make the four-team OAL playoffs). The Knights earned a solid road win at at Mack last week while Skyline outlasted a Fremont team that’s unlikely to win a game this year. Castlemont has been a polar opposite from the past three years when it won with its defense, but I think as the Knights get back to full strength the defense will improve and the offense — with top-10 rusher Jakari Johnson — will keep rolling. Score: Castlemont 41, Skyline 21.
Actual score: Castlemont 20, Skyline 10.
Fremont (0-6, 0-1) at Oakland Tech (5-1, 1-0), 3: 30 p.m. Friday
This is the mismatch of the week. Nothing has gone right for Fremont this year, from the forfeit of the season opener with Logan (if it had been played, it probably would’ve been REAL ugly) to another forfeit just a few hours after its 0-0 tie with St. Elizabeth. Sione Tupuoata is a real talent, but one guy isn’t enough to net Fremont a win. Tech’s Ryan Murphy is fourth in the East Bay and tops in the OAL in rushing and should be able to add to that and the East Bay’s top-ranked defense could be primed to pitch a second-straight shutout, although I’ll pencil in one touchdown for Tupuoata. Score: Oakland Tech 42, Fremont 6.
Actual score: Fremont 28, Oakland Tech 7. (Wow!!! Did not see this one coming)
McClymonds (3-3, 0-1) at Oakland (2-3-1, 0-1), 3:30 p.m.
This is the most evenly matched game of the week in the league and should be a close one. Oakland is decimated by injuries and if it is forced to go with Damante Horton again at QB, that seriously hurts their chances. That’s not a knock on Horton as a QB, but rather the fact that they’ll lose a lot by not having Horton lined up at receiver. There also figures to be a big emotional boost going for Mack coach Curtis McCauley, who was the head coach at Oakland in 2007 during an 0-10 season. He spent last year as an assistant at Castlemont watching the Wildcats earn a regular-season co-championship (and hand his Knights their only OAL loss), so he’ll certainly bring an edge as he tries to beat his former team. I really think you can toss a coin for this game, but I’ll call on Mack to earn the big road win. Score: McClymonds 20, Oakland 18.
Actual score: McClymonds 20, Oakland 14. (Pretty proud of this pick)
BFL
St. Elizabeth (2-4, 0-2) at Salesian (5-1, 2-0), 1:30 p.m. Saturday
The Mustangs have been a completely up and down team — three times scoring 8 points or fewer and twice scoring 40 or more points. One of their wins was a forfeit of a 0-0 tie with Fremont. Salesian is the class of this league and won’t be all that tested here and they stay in line for a top seed in the NCS Division IV playoffs (behind St. Mary’s however). Score: Salesian 40, St. Elizabeth 14.
Actual score: Salesian 45, St. Elizabeth 26.
HAAL
Arroyo (1-5, 0-3) at Mt. Eden (1-5, 1-2), 3:30 p.m. Friday
Arroyo showed some life against San Leandro last week and that (along with that earlier win against Newark Memorial) shows me the Dons have some potential. It was nice to see the Monarchs get in the win column against Castro Valley, but I don’t think they’ll do it again this week. Score: Arroyo 28, Mt. Eden 12.
Actual score: Arroyo 42, Mt. Eden 8.
Castro Valley (1-5, 1-2) at Tennyson (2-4, 0-3), 3:30 p.m.
These are two teams that haven’t done nearly as well as they would’ve hoped this year. Tennyson’s season went downhill with tough late-game losses to American and San Lorenzo (turn those around and you have a 4-2 team with an eye on the playoffs). The Trojans hit rock bottom with that loss to Mt. Eden. I’ll give the Lancers the home-field edge here in a close one. Score: Tennyson 21, Castro Valley 19.
Actual score: Castro Valley 21, Tennyson 14.
San Lorenzo (4-2, 3-0) vs. San Leandro (4-2, 3-0) at Burrell Field, 7 p.m. Friday
The Rebels have been a nice story so far and their early season success is lining them up for a shot at an NCS playoff berth, but I don’t see them having the firepower to knock off the Pirates. I thought Hayward had a good chance to give San Leandro a game and we all saw what happened there. I may be proven wrong, but I think San Leandro will flex its muscle here. Score: San Leandro 34, San Lorenzo 21.
Actual score: San Leandro 49, San Lorenzo 7.
Hayward (4-2, 2-1) at Bishop O’Dowd (2-3-1, 2-1), 1:45 p.m. Saturday
After losing its showdown with San Leandro in rather embarassing fashion, Hayward won’t want that to happen again. And flat out, this may be the worst year of O’Dowd football in a couple of decades. This is always a heated rivalry game so I expect the Dragons to play inspired, but I don’t think that will be enough. Score: Hayward 34, Bishop O’Dowd 20.
Actual score: Hayward 20, Bishop O’Dowd 18.
MVAL
James Logan (4-3, 2-0) vs. American (3-3, 2-1) at Tak Fudenna Stadium, 7 p.m. Thursday
This game is about to kick off and will be a Colts blowout. American’s three wins are nothing to brag about with the toughest part of their schedule ahead of them. Score: James Logan 41, American 6.
Actual score: James Logan 52, American 0.
Irvington (2-5, 1-2) vs. Kennedy-Fremont (3-3, 1-1) at Tak Fudenna Stadium, 7 p.m. Friday
Neither team has a win over another good team this season, but I’ll go with the squad with the eighth ranked defense in the East Bay. Score: Kennedy 20, Irvington 14.
Actual score: Kennedy 21, Irvington 0.
Mission San Jose (0-6, 0-3) vs. Washington (4-2, 2-0) at Tak Fudenna Stadium, 7 p.m. Saturday
Is this even a real game? Not going to sugar coat it, get the running clock ready. Washington can make the final score be whatever it wants. Score: Washington 61, Mission San Jose 0.
Alright, time for you to start bashing me.
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October 22nd, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Looks pretty even handed to me and you’ve seen most of if not all of these teams. Jet Pride!
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Jimmy, I think it’s a great overall assesment of the Alameda County’s friday night lights.
I would like to know more about playoff possibilities with some of these league games however. If you can tell me what some of these games mean I have a couple questions for you..
Kennedy-Fremont made the Div 3 playoffs last year, so does it look like the Titans have a shot if they beat irvington and american to finish 5-5? They lost to division rival Dougherty Valley in San Ramon on the road so I think that hurts them whether or not DV makes the playoffs in their own right. In turn DV lost to Piedmont, Acalanes, and Campolindo, so it doesn’t look like they’ll be in forecasting a 2-8 or 3-7 season if they beat Dublin the only winable game on their schedule..
Moving along to Div 2, I like Hayward, San Lorenzo, Las Lomas, Pinole Valley as some local teams to get in those last few at large bids. What do you think? Alameda with the PV upset, I dont think has enough to get in, and it’ll be tough with a lot of the Redwood Empire teams strong as well
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
I also think KillerD would agree with these predictions – he’s been making a lot of good picks and I think will be on here soon pointing out the results. Keep it up everybody!
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Great question Mike and great timing with it also. Kyle and I are planning on beginning our weekly looks at each division of the playoffs next week. Kyle will be handling Divisions I and II, I’ll be doing III through V. I’ve already done the legwork so far for my divisions by compiling each team’s record, league record and record within the division to date. I don’t have those notes on me, but as far as Kennedy goes, I believe they are on my list of probables. They will definitely be eligible as they’ll finish with a 2-1 record within the division (beat De Anza and Balboa, which is a Division III-sized school, and lost to Dougherty Valley). The DV loss hurts, but more for seeding than getting in. Last year, there weren’t even enough eligible teams to show up for the meeting to make the 16-team field, so I’m guessing even a 4-6 Kennedy team would have a shot. Although I do think they’ll beat both Irvington and American to get to 5-5 and be a shoe-in. I’ll have much more on the subject next week. Look for it to pop on the blog by Wednesday.
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Nice to see the swamp reference. Get some, Jimmy Durkin!
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Alameda beat San Lorenzo 20-0 and Pinole Valley 23-6 so how do you like San Lorenzo and Pinole Valley but not Alameda, that makes no sense.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Since I see the HAAL quite a bit, I can agree with those predictions. I think Arroyo has a good shot to win its last 4 games and finish 5-5 if they play like they did against San Leandro. Surprise of the league – Without a doubt, San Lorenzo. The Rebels have really turned it up since some non-league losses. O’Dowd, Arroyo, and Castro Valley all have underachieved in my mind.
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
hitstick who has alameda beat? o’dowd is horrible that tie means nothing plus they were 6 inches from losing to BOD. they lost 2 a horrible newark team, got molly whopped against b-high & encinal.it doesnt matter anyways cuz when the hornets do make the playoffs there always one & done!
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Arroyo beat mt Eden 42-8
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Hitstick: I think Alameda has a bad record and that hurts their chances. You have a point, but on the other hand, it all depends how strong the competition is from the RE. a lot of those teams are II III and IV so they get a lot more in than East Bay teams in the same division but with worse records.
Right on Jimmy D. I’ll be looking forward to it can’t believe there’s three weeks left in the season already! lol
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
correction: EB teams with worse records*
idk how alameda finishes but they have 4 losses already and a tie
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Alameda actually only has three losses (3-3-1) and two are to teams in the top five in our poll (Berkeley and Encinal) and teams that will be among the top two or three seeds in their divisions. The other is to a Division I foe in Newark Memorial. What’s big is Alameda is 2-0 against Division II teams and will finish at 3-0 after it beats Richmond. Even with a loss to El Cerrito (no sure thing), worst case scenario is 5-4-1 because they’ll beat De Anza as well. It’s definitely possible that Alameda could win its final three and finish 6-3-1.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
gotcha thanks for checking the facts.
but hey were you at any OAL games this afternoon? looks like that’s no sure thing either?
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I wasn’t at an OAL game, I actually did the Berkeley-El Cerrito blowout. Thought that had a chance to be a decent game but Berkeley is just completely the class of that league.
I thought I was starting to figure out the OAL, but this Fremont-Tech game has me back questioning everything. Fremont’s all of a sudden a contender again and many people’s preseason favorite — Oakland — is the only winless team and sitting in last place. At this point, I have to say all six teams are playoff contenders and I don’t think I could call any particular team the favorite anymore.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:58 pm
that is true.. berkeley likely will go undefeated now as will Deer Valley it seems.
El Cerrito loss doesnt hurt them as much as it would have Berkeley because its upper division.. I think this year is EC’s to make a run Div 3.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
I have been away and I haven’t seen Mike Bower on here in a while Is he still around ( employed by ANG)
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Nope Junkie, Bower isn’t with us anymore. He moved out of the area and is working on getting into teaching.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Did he get the axe like Steve so now there is no one that gives a hoot about Alameda County Prep Sports
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:22 pm
No, his decision to leave.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:23 pm
And you still have me Junkie!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:25 pm
I support all of you guys and know that you wish things could go back to the way they were it is the beast of the print media in todays world
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:27 pm
and I have to remind Kyle that my nephew was the starting (Soph) shortstop for the Newark Memorial baseball team that beat them in the championships
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 pm
b-high was totally dominate, looks like they getting ready for the playoffs,
hey jimmy i still think ur good at picking winners, but oal is hard to judge, castlemont is still the champs until somebody beats them. and jimmy nice of u to throw in the lil guys, st liz and salesian has 2 very good coaches
go jackets
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Who does BHS draw for the 1st round- Deer Valley?
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 pm
I heard Fremont beat Tech- is that right? That’s an 0-6 team coming in and whippin’ on the Bulldogs. Fremont’s got some game.
October 24th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Berkeley will get a first-round bye in NCS, likely as the No. 3 seed behind DLS and Deer Valley. That would have them playing the winner of the 6 vs. 11 game.
October 24th, 2009 at 12:40 am
And yes, Fremont beat Tech 28-7. Shocker of the day easily.
October 24th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Jimmy, who do you anticipate will be the #5 seed for the NCS D1 playoffs? With my SL Pirates most likely seeded 12th would they face the 5th seed?
October 24th, 2009 at 2:32 am
hope b high does play deer valley, last year was a fluke
October 24th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Pantera,
At this point, I think it’s really too hard to make that call. The top four, pretty clearly, is DLS, Deer Valley, Berkeley and Amador Valley. After that, every team has its flaws. Obviously, Monte Vista is scuffling. Cal has a nice 3-1 EBAL record, but has that loss to Washington. Foothill is 5-2, but how do you explain losses to SRV and Granada? And Pittsburg is back below .500 again. The last three weeks are really going to determine how those middle seedings all work out because it’s just so up in the air right now. No. 5 will likely be an EBAL team though, probably whichever team finishes third in the league. Although one possibility is for Washington to run the table and finish 8-2 with an MVAL title. They’d have a win over Cal and losses to Deer Valley and Tracy, which should finish the year a combined 20-0. They would make a very compelling case for that No. 5 seed as they would, at worst, be tied for the best overall record amongst those teams and could really point to that win over Cal.
Also, yes, if San Leandro is the No. 12 seed, they’d play the No. 5 seed, possibly as a home game if they face any team other than Washington because San Leandro will be a league champion.
October 24th, 2009 at 9:00 am
EVEN THOUGH FREMONT BEAT TECH, IT STILL DOESNT MATTER CASTLEMONT IS STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE O.A.L THE HAD THE TOUGHEST PRE-SEASON OUTTA ALL THE O.A.L SCHOOLS AND NOW ARE BACK AT FULL STRENGTH!!!
October 24th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Hey Jimmy D you had your Jacket swag with them clean shades on the sidelines, the entire Jacket family, apprieciate you and Mr. Stewards, coverage. Run Rickey Run Go Jackets!
October 24th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Goodmorning to all b-high nonbelievers it looks like b-high won’t let up on people moving forward stay tuned for more to come cuz that’s yesterday was just the beginning.jimmy D can tell u nonbelievers
October 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am
sl at the 12th seed? are u crazy wit a 8-2 record thats a no-no
October 24th, 2009 at 11:31 am
SL will prob not be the 12th seed but they will be low. the problem is their best win is going to be a hayward team that is DII in NCS. maybe a 10 or 11 seed for the pirates. If Washington beats Logan my guess is Logan is the 12 seed.
October 24th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
First off, thanks Jimmy for your post.
I was just being realistic with the #12 seed. The HAAL has little if any respect and rightfully so. A #10 or #11 seed would be great though.
I give SL a better chance this year, winning does breed confidence even if its against inferior opponents. In their 2 losses to WCAL schools SL was only down 9-7 to Bellarmine at the half and was ahead of Valley Christian 7-3 going into the fourth. In both games they collapsed in cruch time.
October 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
exactly, I think people forget that… and forget that SL is still going to be a VERY dangerous team.
October 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
First things first, congratulations to Encinal on the win.
Second order of business is a shot out to K. Washington. I really hope you are ok. You are a very good player and I hope that your injury is not serious. You are a major factor for your team and SM wishes you a speedy recovery.
Last night’s game unveiled a lot of truths. The size difference between Encinal and SM was striking. The Jets are big, strong and fast. This game was a case of boxing’s old truth – “a good big man usually beats a good little man.” SM fought a great fight, but in the end, the size difference was too much to overcome.
I want to give Mr. Duckett a special shot out. You are a fine football player. You were the best player on the field last night. Keep leading your team. In fact, you were the most composed player on your team. Jets, follow your QB – he will lead you where you want to go.
To the Encinal players: Boys you all are a very good team. A very good team. My advice to you all, however, is that you must learn to be more composed. When you are the bigger and better team, you can’t let your emotions get the better of you. You all came off as an extremely undisciplined and uncomposed group. You almost allowed a smaller, inferior team beat you and upend your season because you could not keep your collective cool. 200 yards of penalties should not be acceptable to you all as players. And my man, #23… you are a really good player. The game is between the white lines – try to keep your attention out of the opposing stands. You might be able to play at the next level, son. If colleges see you acting like that, they could be turned off. Let your play do the talking – your game is good enough to stand on its own.
Coach T: You had a great game plan. It is obvious you were not going to let #22 beat you. You kept him off the field most of the night. When he was on the field, you kept him from going off, besides the TD run. I thought it showed a great deal of class to not put up that last TD. You could have scored on that last possession and you took a knee. Finally, thanks for giving my son words of encouragement after the game. While your players were talking smack to him you tried to express recognition of him as a good player. That is classy. Well done Coach.
Encinal bloggers: You all really should give SM more props and respect. That little team came in and gave you a hell of a fight. It is true, you could have and should have won by 3 or 4 scores. You say it was the ref’s fault. Come on, have higher standards for your team. 12 men in the huddle 3 straight plays. That is not the refs. Countless false starts. Not the refs. Your players jabbing at the refs and your opponents. Again, not the refs. As adults who support your children, you should raise the level of expectations and attempt to persuade your young men to be more mature and level headed. It will serve them well on the field and off the field. One of you said you completely shut down the run game. You certainly slowed it down, but you didn’t shut it down. You call Coach Minor “dumb.” He was trying to beat a team that was better…him and his team almost pulled it off because the Jets played kinda….well…dumb. Don’t be a fanatic. Tell it like it is.
We are very proud of our SM players. They have a tremendous amount of fight. Some of you called all of our success luck. Well, we had some good fortune, but we made a lot of our luck as well. Give up some props. We came in and represented ourselves and our league well. The BSAL has at least 3 good teams (Jets, Panthers and Bruins). I think our top 3 teams would play a lot of leagues top 3 close.
To the NCS – There are teams up north that are undefeated. I wonder if any D4 team would play Encinal so close. SM should be considered for the 1 seed in the playoffs.
Anyway, that our my thoughts post game. What a night.
Go Panthers! We will bounce back.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
hey jimmy whats the score of the salesian game
October 24th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Not sure right now. We don’t always get the quarterly updates for Saturday afternoon games. But I’m manning the main desk tonight so as soon as I get the call with the final score, I’ll get it posted.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
hey jimmy just wondering what gives dv a leg up in the rankings over b high, they have 2 common opponents, what other win is the differnce maker, just curious
October 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
The wins over Washington (which had previously beaten Cal) and Logan are pretty solid wins. Having both of those wins guarantees they’ll have a win over another league’s champion and that will give them the seeding edge over Berkeley.
For the record, I think Berkeley could beat either of those teams, but unfortunately don’t have them on the schedule.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
i can respect that, hope b high plays dv again, need pay back
October 24th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I’d like to see that too. Last year it took Berkeley just a little too long to get going against DV. They turned it on in the fourth quarter and nearly pulled it out. If they could’ve gotten it going just a quarter earlier, I think they would’ve won.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
I think it might happen as a semi-final. both are top 4 if they go 10-0 thats for sure. the order is a toss-up
1. De La Salle
2. Deer Valley
3. Berkeley
4. Amador Valley
5. Washington
6. California
7. Pittsburg
8. Monte Vista
9. San Ramon
10. Foothill
11. Logan
12. San Leandro
October 24th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Panther fan, i agree with you on everything you said, I also believe St.Mary’s is a up and coming program. Our fans just get a bit hyped up but we all must be adults and conduct ourselves in that manner. I guess you missed my blog giving props to the panthers. And I too went to school in the City. Mission High. Good Luck to St.Mary’s the rest of the season and i hope you make the playoffs. And you have been very even and fair in your opinions and i thank you for that. Jet Pride!
October 24th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Panther Fan you have a lot of class. St. Mary’s did play hard. But lets be serious I was at both games. The Var game 22 penalties to 2 with 2 TDs called back for the Jets? JV game 3 TDs called back with penalties somewhere in the teens to single digits for St. Mary’s. That doesn’t seem odd? You can say 12 men but thats an interpretation of the refs. You can say everyone was holding call was holding that was how the refs perceived it. But damn nothing on St. Mary’s??? 6 taunting penalties but none for St. Mary’s??? Man it takes 2 to tango buddy. You can’t seriously beleive that over 2 games that only Encinal was fouling. That was terrible.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
As for Coach Minor. My buddy does the sticks for the Var game & he said the entire Coaching staff was cheering when Washington was down because he deserved it for talking sh*t.
As for Minor as a coach straight Pee-Wee level coach. St. mary’s was loaded from last year by Coach Ferrigno & instilled with discipline. You can see it on JVs they got blown out 40-6 obviously a sign of things to come.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
hey jimmy any saturday score updates
October 24th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Berean Christian 43, Valley Christian 13
Salesian 45, St. Elizabeth 26
College Park 35, Northgate 20
Ygnacio Valley 27, Mt. Diablo 7
Hayward 20, Bishop O’Dowd 18
Serra 17, St. Ignatius 14
CSD 41, CSD-Riverside 6
October 24th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
thanks jimmy, can anybody beat salesian in that league, wow BOD is terrible this year poor mario brown, great kid, real talent
October 24th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
monte vista and pitt should be flipped even with MV’s record right now. MV beat Pitt very handily. Of course if MV loses to Cal and SR well then i don’t know. But as of right now that’s how it should be.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Anybody have any idea how Chris Martin and his Colorado team is doin…..nd I think him leaving had a big effect on y BOD is struggling this year does anybody differ?
October 24th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Berean was the team with the best chance to beat Salesian and they lost 35-25. So no, no one will beat Salesian in the BFL this year.
October 24th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
how come salesian isn’t in the bsal with spsv and st. mary’s? they are division 4 private schools as well… it seems like the bfl is just a relegation league like in primier league soccer.. the underachieving teams get demoted into the lower league while the better teams moved up into higher leagues.. it sure seems that way. i see how it is meant to be fair with enrollment, but salesian is so much better than the competition in that league.. also, anybody know what happened to berean joining the DVAL? they didnt do it for football, but I think they could hold their own against a school like northgate..
Valley Christian looks like the fastest team to join the league and then leave it probably in a year or so.. they are building up and likely will make a jump to bsal or even dfal like dougherty valley..
October 24th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
I wish I had a good answer to that Mike. Flat out, Salesian should be in the BSAL. They are in the BSAL for every other sport and they completely dominate the BFL in football. While they might struggle with Encinal now that the Jets are in the league, they would annually be able to compete with the likes of SPSV, St. Mary’s and Piedmont. I’m sure they would’ve won a couple BSAL titles during the Jahvid days.
As for Berean, they joined the DVAL for everything but football. They aren’t quite as established a program as Salesian, so depth-wise they would be hurting a bit as a smaller school in that league. Plus, the DVAL is all Division II schools with one Division I. To put a Division IV school in there would be a bit of a stretch. They just wouldn’t have the numbers to compete.
October 24th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
sacret heart prep for atherton and kings acadamy was in that bfl a few years ago and shp did beat salesian but i think they lost to st liz and kings, those 2 teams made that league pretty tough, st liz had them the year javid best was a soph, lost in overtime and lost by 5 2 seaxons ago. maybe next year for that league, salesian has a great coaching staff
October 24th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
yeah they should b in the bsal
October 24th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
ncs tried to move b high to the haal but the principles and AD’s from every school n that league is scared of berkeley. i think it would make that league stronger in all sports
October 24th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
DezCamp,
Chris is doing well. Playing the best football he’s ever played. His team is in a league very similar to the EBAL, which is where he would have preferred to transfer into had it been allowed. His team won the state championship 2 years ago, went 11-0 last year before being upset in the playoffs. They have 1 returning starter this year, so, very inexperienced. They are 6-2, having lost last night on TV, 21-10. They play Mullen next week, a team ranked in the top 20 in the nation. He is still commited to ND, although he’s going to do official visits to Cal, USC, Oklahoma, and Florida.
I don’t know if he would be making an impact at BOD or not, as I have’nt been able to check out an O’Dowd game this year. I could’nt begin to tell you what their issues are this time around. Chris does miss the area and is disappointed that O’Dowd has struggled.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Jimmy grades came out in the OAL. I think the Fremont High team that we all might have seen in the summer is finally on the field. Couldn’t say for sure I haven’t gone to any OAL games this year. Don’t know if Tech did or didn’t lose any players though.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Panther fan come to a play-off game & see how many calls like the Encinal vs St. MAry’s game get made.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
oh ok. thanks for the all info Jimmy. I appreciate all your answers and replies. I’m just looking at calpreps and comparing divisions and leagues in anticipation of NCS and possible realignment issues.
I guess there’s some trial and error in the whole process. I didn’t think it made sense for Encinal to leave the ACCAL until their 13-0 season last year, and I think that was an unexpected result of playing more teams in their Division and having an incredible year at the right time in their program with their great coaching and talented student-athletes.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
The new grading period always makes a huge difference in the OAL. Fremont is a team that I, and many other, were VERY high on early in the season. I even had them slotted as No. 15 in my preseason poll and was expecting them to give Logan a game before everything went downhill. It’s nice to see they have a chance to live up to that potential because they were a team on the rise last year. At this point, if they keep playing like they did yesterday, you have to consider them a serious Silver Bowl contender. The OAL is all of a sudden completely wide open.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
I also didn’t know Salesian competes in BSAL in other sports. hmm thats interesting. For Berean, there’s more equity in girl’s volleyball and other sports they do really well in.
Bhsfan, you are correct as well. The league got realigned in 08 and Sacred Heart Prep-Atherton and King’s Academy-Sunnyvale became part of the CCS and compete in one of the Peninsula Athletic League’s divisions. Those two teams definitely made the league stronger. I guess I just pine for a perfect world where teams are placed in appropriate leagues with teams in their division and geographical area, but there’s no perfect solution like that.
It is interesting because I do remember now Berkeley being mentioned to join San Leandro’s league (HAAL) because it would make that league a lot better, but I think the D-2 teams probably didn’t like the idea of that. What if Berkeley had to play Arroyo, Tennyson, San Lorenzo, Mt. Eden, and Bishop O’Dowd this year? that would be as ugly as the 50-60 odd points they put up on Hercules, De Anza, Richmond, El Cerrito… geographically it makes sense to keep Berkeley where it is..
keeping up with the improved scheduling, B-High should play San Leandro instead of Castro Valley for a D-1 non league opponent and at least a home and home with any EBAL team not named livermore or de la salle.
I like the fact they played Pittsburg, and won, and have talked with Logan and other BVAL teams like Freedom among others.
that definitely worked for Washington and Logan. They both played Deer Valley, albeit in what looks like DV’s soon to be 2nd undefeated season since they did it in 06. Washington & College Park had a home and home, that worked out well I’d say. glad to see the coaches and teams putting together big nonleague action. grateful for the great football that comes out of it
October 25th, 2009 at 12:01 am
i can bet my bottom dollar that coach carter would play any of those teams, he has never ran from anybody, i recall when he was at mac the tribune put out an article bout the big time programs not wanting to schedule mcclymonds.
hey jimmy do u guys still have that article, coach carter said he will play anybody anywhere anytime, if i was one of the coaches mentioned n that article i would have taken that as a challenge{to my manhood especially} and a few schools i recal mentioned was san leandro hayward BOD.
October 25th, 2009 at 3:32 am
The HAAL schools didn’t want Berkeley H.S. in their league, you’re right … because we were a 9 league team at the time. We had just lost Moreau Catholic in football, but not other sports. The proposition was to allow both Berkeley and Alameda into the HAAL making us a 10 team league in football. We would then break up into two 5 team divisions. The teams from Division A would play their 4 games in Division A and then play 3 teams from Division B and then be given 3 out of league games. We would then alternate every 2 years. So, in a way, you’re right. If by saying we didn’t want Berkeley in the league, you mean we didn’t want to deal with the BS, then you are correct. These things go so much further than who is or isn’t scared. So just stop already.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Thanks Encinal bloggers for the words of support about my blogs.
Roeper – I need to help you out a little on your SM knowledge. My son is a pretty major contributor to SM success this year. He is pretty talented. Your guy Ferrigno barely gave him any touches last year. He was not smart enough to know his skill set, even though he saw it every day in practice. He only played him on D. He was an all-league CB, but he barely touched the rock. His success this year proves Ferrigno missed big time. In terms of discipline – Ferrigno was a complete joke.I mean complete joke! Our team had many nights like Encinal had on Fri. Dumb penalties and lost composure. It was a big problem. The boys had a tough, frustrating season that wasn’t much fun. Minor has been a blessing to the program. Is he perfect – certainly not. But he has made a huge difference. You bring up the penalties being 1 sided. Roeper that has been the case all season. We are a pretty disciplined team. We just don’t make a lot of penalties. Give Minor that credit. That is a part of coaching. I am actually a BIG fan of Coach T (Encinal). But my 1 comment to him is what I wrote. He HAS to get his boys more composed – even if the refs are wrong. Teach your players to “play the game” with the refs. That Jet pride turned into false pride. Give thos old white men a little Eddie Haskle. Lol. Call them “sir” etc… It doesn’t make you weak or a “sell-out”. It keeps them on your side. That’s game. Try it out Jets and maybe you will not have such a discrepency in calls. Definately stop cussing at the zebras – that usually doesn’t help
Ofm-coach – I must have missed you giving SM props. I will look again. I didn’t see much in that regard.
If anyone can give an update on Mr. Washington I would appreciate it. My son and him collided a few times and my son said he was a load. I really am concerned about him and I would like to know his status.
Thanks guys
Go Panthers!
October 25th, 2009 at 9:19 am
BHsfan those HAAL schools you mentioned, would’nt want a loss, lets make a D1 league from this side of the tunnel. Thank you for your support, Run Rickey Run, Go Jackets!
October 25th, 2009 at 9:23 am
HAALfan deal with Berkeley? I see more problems from your areas, then Berkeley, We would run the table in all 75 sports we offer, do you guys offer crew? Stop dealing with, and play!
October 25th, 2009 at 10:47 am
To back up what Panther Fan said, I’ve definitely heard players say that they’ve seen on film that they know some teams and even particular players can be baited into making stupid penalties…
October 25th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Well good HS Football Fan then you make my point on the St. Mary’s coaching being bush league for teaching or allowing their players to bait other teams & that the St. Mary’s players themselves were obviously doing something. Like you said they were baiting & initiating. Just like in other sports they always catch the 2nd guy.
I’m not mad its a war out there. Gotta do what you gotta do to win. But to believe that St. Mary’s players weren’t saying anything is stupid. Officials did a terrible job of correcting it thats why it kept happening. Why stop if your St. Mary’s?? You haven’t gotten flagged.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:13 am
The oal is wide open based off the pre-season records but both Skyline and Castlemont played tough pre-season schedules..our game against skyline friday was physical we were bigger on the lines but they will be in the playoffs..we know fremont is big and physical but you have to be able to throw, that’s oakland tech’s problem(“9 to 10″) in the box is “very tough” to run against..we have good wr’s but we have to make the throws..2 wins in the oal normally get you 4th place which makes you a 4th seed.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Please don’t put words in my mouth. I don’t know a single St. Mary’s player or coach, so I am definitely not saying that I know that they baited any Encinal players. I’m saying that I’ve heard other players say it. On film, you can usually see the same players getting personal fouls and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties every week.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Coach Green I’m down. Castlemonts probably got the most complete package offesnively in the OAL(actually O-high does but they forgot to develop an O-line). You guys have different sets 5 wide, I, which makes you guys tough. How much throwing have you really done? You buys attempt 7 passes a game? I know you only attempted 2 or 3 against Mac.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Its the head coach over at O-High killed a program on the rise in one year…Last year He lived off other peoples hard work players and coaches….Sorry but that guy is a freaking joke….Oh and who coaches the o-line over there….Yea.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:55 am
get bowers and zo on the phone together, and see what they have to say about a home and home? why not? san leandro needs a better match up than bellarmine/valley christian, and berkeley needs all D-1 non league games to keep up the schedule strength.
b-high vs san leandro, newark, heritage, washington, logan, amador, granada, cal high any would be good games. the ebal teams are running teams and their schedules are going to change non league next year.
tell amador to stop playing del norte and mt. eden. it seems like they constantly play bad teams so they can get easy wins. that doesnt work. they should take a page from berkeley and play all div 1 teams if they are as good as they think. i have a problem with mt. eden because they are a borderline program, listed div 2 this season but have been div 1 in the past. they also have 1 good season it seems out of a decade, so amador needs to stop pretending their comparable and play a washington or a college park type of team.
amador/freedom last year was a good call, because freedom was on fire and amador was just beginning with the current core turray/stancil etc they have now.
the del norte home and home ends, so amador needs to fill with another d-1 game. even if amador thinks its rebuilding or whatever, they can at least play liberty or mission san jose american or irvington that is a better use of “cupcake scheduling” than busing up to eureka to play a div 3 team they’ll beat by 60 anyway.
granada has a good schedule for them. not a traditional competitive ebal team like amador is, they play castro valley and antioch and it works out for them. same division, close by home and homes. great job matadors. no need to leave the east bay like the next guy..
california. ever since 2007, they have been scheduling like crazy to play the best. not because they think themselves high, but because they want to be the best.
so going to seattle to play bellevue, going to sacramento to play del oro, stepping up the local non league from d3 kennedy and d2 las lomas to d1 washington and d1 san leandro is a great job. but..
do they really need to keep showing off their 7 point losses to national and state ranked teams? yes it gives them spotlight, but they haven’t produced anything yet. so some will say let them keep going, but shouldn’t they be playing pittsburg more often? it seems like they get the pirates in ncs a lot now, and could use the additional experience. playing bellevue and del oro might help for playing the rest of the ebal, but they gotta make it back to an ncs final first before they continue this aggressive schedule with teams seemingly out of their league yet who they can lose by 7 points to.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Since there’s been so much predicting of DI, here’s an attempt at predicting DII – DIV.
DII
1. Petaluma
2. Concord
3. Casa Grande
4. Eureka
5. Montgomery
6. Ygnacio Valley
7. Windsor
8. Clayton Valley
9. Rancho Cotate
10. Hayward
11. Cardinal Newman
12. Pinole Valley
I don’t envy the committee some of the decisions they’re going to have to make. Teams like Alameda, Las Lomas and San Lorenzo are hard to exclude. I went back and forth with Alameda vs. Pinole Valley, especially since Alameda won the head-to-head match up, but Pinole Valley’s wins over McClymonds and Oakland Tech could outshine Alameda’s home loss to Newark Memorial and a tie to an underachieving Bishop O’Dowd. It’s probably still too early to make this call…
If this plays out, Petaluma vs. Concord should be an awesome championship…
DIII
1. Encinal
2. Marin Catholic
3. Alhambra
4. Novato
5. Healdsburg
6. Fortuna
7. Acalanes
8. Analy
9. Miramonte
10. El Cerrito
11. Piedmont
12. Tamalpais
13. Campolindo
14. Terra Linda
15. Moreau Catholic
16. Kennedy-Fremont
This looks almost TOO straightforward. The biggest controversy here might be the exclusion of O’Dowd, but if they lose (as expected) to San Leandro next week, that puts them at 2-5-1 with two games to go, and I’m not sure beating CV and Arroyo vaults them above Kennedy or Moreau. An argument can be made for Encinal vs. Marin Catholic for the overall #1, so I went with the defending champions. I expect Alhambra fans to not be thrilled with this seeding, either. If the seeds follow, Novato at Encinal and Alhambra at Marin Catholic should be fantastic.
DIV
1. St. Mary’s
2. Ferndale
3. Salesian
4. Middletown
5. Ft. Bragg
6. St. Patrick/St. Vincent
7. Cloverdale
8. Berean Christian
Still a few things to be decided, so this might be premature. If McKinleyville manages to beat Ferndale, they likely get the automatic berth, but I can’t imagine Ferndale not getting an at-large. Does that bump Berean Christian, Cloverdale or St. Patrick/St. Vincent? Should Ferndale win out, they might pass St. Mary’s for the #1 seed. Is 10-0 vs. a pretty weak schedule more impressive than 8-2 with wins over the 3 seed and two respectable losses? Can the final be a rematch of St. Mary’s vs. Salesian?
Debate away…
October 25th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Please give me your logic on how Encinal gets #1 seed over MC or Alhambra?
Tougher league = MC and Alhambra
Each with one loss = Encinal “lost” to the best of the three to Serra, MC lost to St Ignatius, Alhambra lost to College Park.
Best win? MC over Novato, Alhambra over Las Lomas or Healdsburg..who is Encinal’s best win over, El Cerrito or Alameda?
What else is there to consider? This will be a tough choice, but PLEASE do not award a #1 seed for previous years’ performance.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Let me jump in on the D-3 debate. I have not seen Alhambra or MC, but I would have a tough time believing either team is as big and fast as Encinal. Again, I haven’t seen either team, so I am not that credible. I will say a win over EC is pretty unimpressive. They are over rated. SM whooped them all over the field in a scrimmage. We all have said scrimmages are not gospel – but it was an a#* whippin. 50-0 to BHS backs that up.
I will try to see the other 2 teams to make a more informed judgement.
D-4 debate. I am a Panther fan so I am obviously biased. I don’t know who those northern teams are playing, but East Bay football I’m sure is a lot more challenging than what they are playing
I think St. Pat’s is under rated. They are good and well coached. They should NOT be left out of the playoff picture.
Btw – Roeper. Coach Minor was too busy trying to game plan for the #5 team. His game plan did not include baiting. I’m not saying our players arw angels and never talked smack, but you seem to keep deflecting the culpability of your own team in their poor discipline. It won’t change if you don’t get those good players to stop shooting themselves in the feet with all that “other stuff”.
Go Panthers!
October 25th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
college park got blown out by serra, which alahambra lost too. encinal was fighting the whole game.. (28-13) but it was really 21-13. encinal beat a quality st marys team, alahambra beat a LAS lomas team, not that impressed, so please? think before you come on here hating on teams, alahabra is a good team, but dont hype them up, like they just won a cif title, they havent did nothing to deserve a number one seed, if anything the bsal is a much more tougher league. where do you get your logic from? el cerrtio beat one of the tougher teams in your league too (campo), in which encinal blew out.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Knights get over yourself your only logic is a scrimmage you’ve been saying it all year so shut-up. Healdsburg? Las Lomas? WEAK!!! Your league is the down its been this decade. Las Lomas, Campo, Miramonte your barely beating these teams. We’ve already talked about the dominance that the BSAL has had & continues to have over your league. Barely beat Campo who lost to EC who ENcinal stomped. St. MAry’s beat ACalanes who’ve beaten Las Lomas & Miramonte. We all know St. Mary’s just lost to Encinal. It may be degrees of separation but its what the commitee looks at. You barely beat Acalanes who got stomped by St. Mary’s if I remember correctly.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
the if you want to bring up BHS, lets talk about how they beat alameda 27-14 and encinal beat them 34-16? it dont make a diffrence your talking non sence
October 25th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
i like alahambra alot, but they way the smack talking is going on this i am starting to get off the bandwagon. i am all for public schools, but what has alahambra done to get a number one seed? can some one answer me please lol? marin has beat a good novato team, they should be in the talking
October 25th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I definitely think that a case can be made for all three to get the #1 seed. All three likely win their league. If you use Calpreps as a guide, I think you’d argue Marin Catholic as the #1 seed, based on a higher ranked win (Novato) and a very close loss at St. Ignatius. That same St. Ignatius team lost to Serra (the team that beat Encinal). Encinal’s best win, per Calpreps, is St. Mary’s, who could very well end up the top seed in D-IV and is rated higher than anybody on Alhambra’s schedule. Alhambra’s in the strongest league top to bottom, but that might take a hit when you realize that Las Lomas could end up under .500 and both Campolindo and Miramonte have yet to qualify. If they don’t, the DFAL could end up with only Alhambra and Acalanes in the playoffs. Given this, at this point, I think you have to put Alhambra as the clear #3, and I even mentioned that it’s a tough call between Encinal and Marin Catholic for the overall #1.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I agree with you Panther fan. Jets get your stuff together or you’ll lose in the 2nd round. However the refs are calling the games you need to adjust our play too. That means shutting up. Then you have to do it.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
CalPreps takes scores into account the NCS doesn’t(or scrimmages Knights). I’ve brung up a couple scores but they don’t count at all in the criteria & shouldn’t or you’d get a lot more teams running the score up.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
my running back is the leading rusher in the bay lmao, he had like 400 yards running in our scrimage. hahahah get ouuta here, our we still talking about this!!!?
October 25th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
The coaches rankings will likely play a large role in determining that top seed. Most years, the committee gives a lot of consideration to those rankings. And even though coaches won’t be at this year’s closed seeding meeting, they still will submit their rankings of the teams. My hunch is Encinal will get slotted at No. 1 on a lot of those coach’s rankings and last year’s title could be a factor in why those coaches pick them No. 1. That’s just my hunch. Anyways, I don’t want to go too much into this because I’ll be provided a full posting on the Division III playoff scenarios either Tuesday or Wednesday.
Also, bhsfan, I’ll see what I can do when I get to work tomorrow about finding that Zo article.
October 25th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Alhambra is all smack talk, very little football except for #25. I like that kid. Take him away and theres nothing. Marin Catholic is a far better team.
October 25th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
that b high score against alameda is not how the game was ricky galvin did not play much after mid way thru the 2nd quarter and most starters on both side where taken out 2nd half, so imagine what the score would have been. i think castlemont should win the oal
mr. fast and physical right on go jackets
thanks jimmy
October 25th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Some questions for the idiots responding to my post.
Roeper,
Did I mention the scrimmage in my last post?
Are you still hating on San Lorenzo and Wright…oh wait, now you are trying to bash Coach Minor. Dude, stop being the critic…coward.
Truth,
Where in my post am I hating on either of the three teams? I asked some questions for a healthy debate.
X’s and O,
Which games have you watched? There’s more than just #25, trust me.
October 25th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Minor is doing pretty good with Ferrigono’s team. I’ve seen his Balboa teams for years loaded with talent & underachieving. Your only as good as your first Freshmen class look at Notre Dame & Weiss. He did pretty good coaching a team someone else recruited & built up. Dude. Knights you really are a moron & Alahmbra will get the business in the play-offs. They’ve really shown me a lot beating a barely beating a down league. 2nd round & out for them won’t even see Encinal.
Wrights doing a hell of a job beating mediocre teams. Getting zeroed by Alameda & beat by Mt. Diablo was impressive. They are just sub par teams. How he do against SL. Did he put up a fight or just lay down & play dead?
October 25th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
#78 I think that Alameda will get into the play-offs over Pinole Valley. Head to Head means a lot in the criteria. 3-0 against D-II. I also believe that Pinole will lose to EC so won’t really be in the conversation. Beating Tech isn’t meaning too much right now.
October 25th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Head-to-head is number one criteria considered after winning your league so unless Pinole wins the ACCAL or something else major like that took place, Alameda would be in over ‘em with the head-to-head win. Same goes for Alameda compared to SLZ as Alameda won head up. I think Pinole is ahead of San Lorenzo in any argument between those two if you look at their overall results at this point.
October 25th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Division III
(If teams ranked 1- 8 wins out through regular season)
1. Encinal
2. Alhambra
3. MC
4. Healdsburg
5. Novato
6. Fortuna
7. Analy
8. Piedmont
9. Acalanes
10. El Cerrito
11. Tamalpais
12. Terra Linda
13. Campolindo
14. Miramonte
15. Moreau Catholic
16. JFK Fremont
Division IV (If each team wins out)
1. Ferndale
2. St. Mary’s
3. Salesian
4. St. Patricks
5. Berean Christian
6. Fort Bragg
7. Cloverdale
8. Middletown
October 25th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
caught three quarters of the jets game, i wanted to give sm coach minor support, and check on an ex- jacket, the jets huge o tackle. sm played their hearts out, and never gave up. Out manned by the Jets, they play with that swag that reflects their coach, who has great passion for the game and his kids. Great job both teams, and good luck in the playoffs, Jets!
October 25th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Roeper,
I would pay money for you to identify yourself, you chickens**t coward.
Tell me, what years did you see Minor at Balboa?
You do a lot of “seeing” but very little “doing.” Other than blogging crap behind your computer screen.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Looking at the MCAL, why does Terra Linda not play Novato or Marin Catholic in their own league?
October 25th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Looking closer at remaining schedules, I expect Healdsburg and Analy to both lose at least one game, Healdsburg probably two.
And, since upon further review, Terra Linda does not have to play both Novato and Marin Catholic in their own league then they drop way, way down.
Revised D 3 playoff picture.
1. Encinal
2. Alhambra
3. MC
4. Novato
5. Fortuna
6. Healdsburg
7. Analy
8. Piedmont
9. Acalanes
10. El Cerrito
11. Tamalpais
12. Campolindo
13. Miramonte
14. Moreau
15. JFK Fremont
16. Terra Linda
Looking to break down all divisions in depth later this week.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Jimmy,
I didn’t think that the coaches would be given the opportunity to rank this year? Isn’t the seeding meeting going to be closed and the panel will seed based on the application only?
October 25th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
didnt ferigono only coach st marys for one seson and they was only 5-5, so how do ferigono get so much credit roeper, much props to u coach minor, he is an alumni and his heart is there, he also have some other coaches come back to caoching at sm, a few other alumni. roeper is a big critic of coaches but i bet he could coach a lick. knight dont get bothered by this joke keep castlemont winning, lmao
October 25th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Killer, very good playoff predictions. I slated the same teams for D-IV, because that order is very much determinable now near the end of the season. I didn’t try to go past the top 12 in Div 3 because its such a big amount, but kudos to you for going through and picking likely teams. I agree with all you’ve had to say. I think Terra Linda doesn’t play because it’s not round robin in the MCAL. it is such a big league, it probably rotates every few years who you play. I agree strength of schedule is important, which is why I especially like your top four. The DFAL is top heavy with Alhambra and parity among everybody else, which is why the title hunt isn’t in lamorinda or walnut creek anymore. I like to see Moreau qualifying that;s a building block for them. Ironic former HAAL foe O’Dowd might not qualify because they’ve had down play this year.
I think Alameda may still have a shot if they finish strong but even still Pinole Valley controls their fate in Div 2. Good job. Im interested to see how this all matches up with Jimmy’s break downs coming later.
There’s a lot of good conversation to be had in these last few weeks of the season and seeding grabs
October 25th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Fast and Physical,How was St.Mary’s out manned? We only had maybe 23 or 24 players suited up and i believe they had the same number.But they did play hard and deserved all props for doing so. Jet Pride!
October 25th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
besides encinal st marys has beaten every team that beat them last year, so keep doing ur thing coach minor,
just want to give props and support to all hard working coaches out there, wit all the trash talking its still all about the kids.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
It is possible that either Miramonte or Campolindo may not qualify for NCS this season. Miramonte has only won 3 games so far, and still has to play Alhambra and Los Lomas, while Campo has 4 wins, but has to play LL and Acalanes.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
KNIGHTS your a internet THUG kep it up, you have zero credit on these blogs. Withh all your bS. Ur very bias, lol and wanna call other people out.. Keep it UP internt thug.. What’s your gang. Www. Wankster.com hahahahahha.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:06 am
MC is definitely a 2 seed at the lowest. Alhambra no higher then a 3. EHS 1 or 2. Assuming they all finish without losing which they probably will.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Wow. So much chatter about Coach Minor. I’m glad to see everyone (except Roeper) backing up the coach. Best point is Bhsfan – “sm has beaten ever team, except Encinal, that beat them last year.” Minor has completely changed the program and given us credibility. You are also right about Ferrigno only being at our school for 1 year. He got fired at Cal for being a part of the problem during Cal’s meltdown year when the Bears had a chance to be #1. He basically used SM to get on his feet and bolt for SDSU. As I told you all, it was a mess last year at SM. Minor’s coaching has been tremendous for our school. And my son is gone after this year, so I’m not saying this to get my kid playing time.
Old former meddling coach – You always make fun comments. To respond to your question, “how was st. mary’s outmanned?” I would say we are not talking about number of players, but size and speed. Didn’t you notice how much bigger you all were? Even your skill players were bigger. Compare Duckett, Allen, and Washington to Brown-Ryan and Lovett. They have about 20-30 pounds on them. And the line size difference was staggering. That is why we are all saying SM fought so valiantly and were “outmanned.” Does that make sense?
Yo – everyone let’s improve the tone of these debates. A lot of you are resorting to “ad hominem” arguments. That means arguments against the person as opposed to arguments with salient points. This is turning into a street corner shouting match. This is a blog site about HS FOOTBALL. Are we the adults or the kids? But the “wankster.com” shot was pretty good.
Saw Cal-Hi sports last night. They did a great piece on our game. More props to Mr. Duckett. That kid is a class act! His post game comments were perfect. He ackowledged SM as a tough opponent. Good kid. Great player. Great game!
Cal Hi – thanks for the coverage.
I’m still waiting for an update on K. Washington. Is my man ok??
Go Panthers!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Killer D – what do you know about Ferndale? Do you see them as the #1 seed cuz they will go undefeated? If you have seen them, how do my Panthers match up?
Also, can anyone tell me how the ncs playoffs work? If you go all the way, you play 3 games, correct? Is the NCS final played at the Coliseum?
Finally, this is getting way ahead of ourselves, but if SM was able to run the table in NCS playoffs, would they have a shot at a State title? How do they pick the teams to play against Socal?
Any info would be appreciated… Killer D, HSfootballfan, Jimmy, Ben…lol. Lil’ help please…
Go Panthers!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Coach63a,
Yes, coaches won’t be there to make their arguments this year. It will be a closed meeting and everything will be submitted in an online form (you can actually check it out on the NCS web site). Coaches will still provide their rankings of the teams in their division as well as fill out a section of comments, which will simulate the old two-minute speech they were able to give.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:54 am
jimmy
why the change in format, did the ncs commitee feel some coaches were gaining advantage with their speeches
October 26th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Let be be very clear about my points:
1. I hate it when people talk poorly about HS coaches, especially Roeper who finds a new coach to bad mouth every week.
2. Everyone is biased, and everyone is entitled to their opinion about the 1-4 NCS rankings. But stay away from talking bad about coaches or individual players.
3. I am not bringing up the scrimmage between AHS and Encinal anymore. Moot point. Anyone who saw it knows what’s up.
4. Truth – please define wankster. I went to the website, it does not exist. Did someone use that joke on you and you are now recycling it? Please explain?
October 26th, 2009 at 10:10 am
LOL! KNIGHTS – Lemme help you out… a “wankster” is a wanna be ganster. Someone who talks and acts tough, but is really just a puppy dog.
Man, if Encinal and AHS play and my Panthers are not playing – I will be at that game. Maybe the bloggers can play before the kids do so we can see a bunch of old guys pull groins and hamstrings! LOL
Go Panthers!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:17 am
i have to agree about roeper bad mouthing coaches and players all the times is annoying,most of the time people like roeper had no talent and could not do have of the job these coaches out here are doing. high school coaches are not getting rich coaching, most of them love the kids and football, and thats why i will go to bat for a hard working coach and his staff.
lets give some high praise to these wonderful kids that haave givien us a great season so far, lots of good games.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:20 am
hey panther fan tell coach minor, coach fripp, coach filson and the whole staff to keep up the good work and bring that program back to where it was back in the 90′s
October 26th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Bhsfan – Will do. I like what you said about criticizing HS coaches. Do any of you realize some of them make $2,500 a year if they don’t teach a class??? $2,500 a year!! That proves they are doing it for the kids.
Also Bhsfan – thank Coach Zo for offering to help my son with colleges. He is a good man for offering to help a kid who doesn’t go to his school.
Go Panthers!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am
KillerD’s –
Review of the Top Ten Overall Leagues Into Playoff Stretch: Which groups are Best?
* This ranking is Only based on Strength of the OVERALL League from their Own League’s Top to Bottom (which league has the most solid teams) and Not Which League has the Best team in the North Coast Section, or what team would beat so and so…Top Ten Leagues:
1. EBAL: 6 out of 8 teams in this league have winning records, and only a devastating injury to Granada’s starting QB (torn ACL) has kept the Mats from being at least .500% too. Seems to be no shortage of harsh battles weekly, and having 75% of your teams potentially playoff eligible is impossible to argue with. But, if Monte Vista drops another one vs. Cal high and maybe even San Ramon, then my assessment of a 2009 “shakier” but still the best overall league seems realistic.
2. DVAL: 5 out of 6 Diablo Valley league teams have winning records, and the only one without it, College Park (3-4) spanked Alhambra to open the season. All at (6-1), Concord, Clayton Valley and YV have plenty of reason to puff out their chest, and each team is capable of beating bigger teams. YV crushing loss to Oakland Tech caught them off guard because the Warriors were overwhelmed by Tech’s blazing speed and big play making ability. But, young Coach Turner learned from his throttling, and got things back on track vs. an aggressive Mt. Diablo very good team. Concord Minutemen are the team to beat in Division II, their only loss to a good San Ramon team, and the Golden Domes of Concord can score on anybody in D-2.
3. BVAL: Deer Valley is an incredibly talented team and 2009 proved to be the year Deer Valley is finally able to get the “Pittsburg Piano” off of their backs, getting a gritty win in P-town, and now if firm control of league title chase. But, after that, Antioch (in 2nd place), Pitt (down a bit this year) and Heritage (ok) are all less strong than planned. Liberty flirted with finishing at least 5-5 this year, but they will get handled by DV and Pitt, before closing the season beating Freedom, who is tragically bad this year, and Liberty will finish (4-6), with Freedom maybe going 0-10 in 2009, a horrific swan dive given last year’s outstanding season.
4. Sonoma County: What? Where exactly is Sonoma again? Casa Grande, isn’t that in Baja? No, no, no. This year’s Sonoma County League is having a banner season, and the Top 5 teams in that league are pummeling each other to close out the last 3-4 weeks of the season. Petaluma (7-0) and Windsor (6-1) whose only loss is to Inkerdum (what does that word mean…Inkerdum)? PH and WH are both worthy foes, capable of beating any team in Division II. Then, in third place in that league now is Casa Grande a (D-1) team that might finish 9-1, if they can edge Windsor. CG’s only loss coming to undefeated Petaluma. Packed under the D1 & D2, sitting well in D3 Thermafrost is Healdsburg (beat Acalanes, and lost to Alhambra, and lost to Windsor in OT), and then Analy (always a Jekyll & Hyde squad capable of pulling off an upset). Healdsburg and Analy might both finish in top 8 NCS D 3 seeding, unless Healdsburg drops two of last three, which might happen, and then they will fall into lower half of playoff bracket.
5. BSAL: What? Wait a minute! The B…S…A…L? What the —? How about the ACCAL, or Marin group or Other league up in Santa Rosa? Easy, take it easy now, and look at this up and coming mid-size league. Encinal (no doubt # 1 seed in D3 if they beat St. Pats, and that will be a battle – which shows how good the overall league is). St. Mary’s only losses to Heritage (D1) and Encinal, and if healthy, St. Mary’s should play for the D4 championship in December, and it might be against St. Pats. St. Patricks is capable of beating Encinal Friday night, even though they played poorly in early loss to Salesian and lost on last play of the game vs. St. Mary’s. Piedmont and Moreau are both good, and about to clash Friday night for a D3 playoff match up that will help settle the upper & lower half of D3 ranks. Overall the thing that distinctly puts the BSAL ahead of the MCAL or North Bay league is the incredible abundance of speedy athletes on every BSAL team except for Kennedy and Albany this year (who normally have several), there is no substitute for high-caliber fast playmakers, even the best coaches will tell you that.
6. ACCAL: Berkeley’s sheer athletic presence and undefeated mark is undeniable, and they already beat Pitt, Alameda and a respectable El Cerrito team. But Alameda lost to Newark, yes they did. Pinole beat Oakland Tech (who beat a 6-1 YV team), and Alameda should finish (7-3) if they beat El Cerrito in a tussle. El Cerrito beat Campolindo and will finish (5-5) after losing to Pinole and Alameda if things play out, and Alameda finishes.
7. MVAL: Why is the MVAL ranked behind the ACCAL in overall league strength when Washington beat Cal high? Because, the 2nd place MVAL team Logan, has dropped three games to EBAL foes, and only beat on the field, Irvington, Newark, American and Balboa. After the top two teams, it is a precipitous drop off to JFK Fremont, who lost to Dougherty Valley in a close game. Newark is too schizophrenic, having been way down more than their beating of Alameda demonstrates.
8. Marin County League: Novato, Novato, Novato! Well, what about the storied program that used to terrorize all NCS foes daring to face the Swarm? This is not your Father’s Novato, and they’ve already lost three games, their best win is against an above average Foothill D2 (Palos Cedros) team, a very good win, but Foothill is only 250 more students than Novato. Even though Marin Catholic has already beaten Novato this year, and is in sole possession of First Place in Marin League, the well coached Marin Catholic school is saying, “What about us for the # 1 seed in NCS D3? Nope, no way, not with your best win vs. Novato, and now that close loss to St. Ignatius does not look super great with S.I. dropping weekly and sitting at (3-4). After MC and Novato, both good teams: comes Terra Linda (They don’t have to play Novato or Marin Catholic this year), Justin Siena (down), Tamalpais (respectable), Drake, Redwood, San Marin, and San Rafael, all struggling and trying to build to upper echelon in their own league, let alone hoping to someday soon match up with the better teams throughout the NCS.
9. DFAL: Alhambra is clearly better than the rest of this league, and the Bulldogs are poised for that once every 6 or 7 years great Bulldog Run at NCS Title. Healthy, the Dogs can beat any team in D3…Encinal, MC or all comers. But, after the Dogs it is a STEEP drop off the parity cliff, with no other teams having Winning records to date, and only two teams in DFAL at .500% (Acalanes – who lost to St. Mary’s, and Campo – who lost to El Cerrito). Miramonte is not as strong as usual, Las Lomas has really, really suffered this year, and Dublin and Dougherty Valley are working hard to get 3rd and 4th wins.
10. North Bay League: Cardinal Newman had such a great run over the last few years, but they have a serious lack of talent this year, and they are middle of the pack. Montgomery is having a very respectable season, losing only to Grant and Casa Grande. But, this league is definitely not the powerhouse it has been, and this North Bay league making the last spot of this prognosticator’s Top Ten NCS Leagues, barely, barely edged out the HAAL, and BFAL.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Killer D – great analysis as always.
I agree about St. Pat’s. I dont’ think they will beat Encinal, but they are a very good team. I belive we will meet them again in the playoffs. I’m sure they will be very motivated after losing to us on “the play.”
Did you see my question about how the playoffs work? Any info you can help me with that would be appreciated.
Go Panthers!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Ferndale is for real, make zero if any mistakes, hit you to death, but speed vs. St. Mary’s will be tested.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Now the Honk from Alhambra wants to see me. HA-HA-HA-HA-HA. Am I getting to you boy? You wanted to talk al that sh*t about a scrimmage the whole year. Now look at you finally realize that your team plays a weak schedule in a weak league. #1 seed? What a dumb*ss.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:51 am
panther fan no problem, coach carter has being doing things like that for years, if u only knew what kids got scholarships because of him, its a lot of coaches that take credit for it but the so called dont like coach carter he has a lot of haters, but u have coaches like minor and other coaches that are cool wit him and they all about the kids.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am
So, I am a wankster? Or is Roeper the wankster, because I guarantee he would not say his opinion to Coach Minor or Wright face to face, because they would smash on him (they are both big boys).
October 26th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Knights – I’m not calling anyone names. I’m not sure who was being referred to as the wankster, I’m just helping with the definition. LOL
In the words of the great Rodney King: “Can’t we all just get along??”
Go Panthers!
October 26th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Thank you for the “ad hominem” response, Roeper.
Yes, you are getting to me, not because of the Anti-Alhambra comments, but because you run your mouth about hard working coaches. Be the man in the arena, not the critic.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Panther Fan,
I don’t know if the sites have already been determined for the NCS Championship games, but the final is typically played at a predetermined site. I think last year, the D-IV title game between Salesian and Justin-Siena was played at Alhambra. Prior to that, the games are played at the higher seed unless the lower seeded team is a league champion. Given that Ferndale, Salesian and Middletown all are likely to be league champions, I think you should count on going on the road for any second round game.
As far as the bowl game, I’m sure others know better than me, but I think there’s a committee that picks from among the section winners in Northern California. I definitely don’t know enough about other sections, but St. Mary’s falls under DIII for those purposes (at least according to Calpreps). St. Mary’s (Stockton) is in the same category, but they’re projected by Calpreps to play in the Open championship.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:07 am
KillerD you got some fun analysis, always a good read.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:20 am
HS Football Fan Says – Great info. Thanks for that. Sounds like we have a realistic but difficult “road” to NCS, but that would be all we could achieve.
Thanks again.
Go Panthers!
October 26th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Panther Fan,
As the saying goes, play to the whistle. If you guys were to win the NCS D-IV title, and if (big if) a section winner is required, I wouldn’t count out the possibility of the Panthers being selected. Calpreps has you guys ranked 10th in among the Norcal DIII schools. But here’s the thing. Only St. Mary’s (Stockton) is listed as their highest ranked team in their relative section and division, and they’re projected to represent Northern California in the Open Division, meaning they aren’t likely to go as a DIII school. If I’m Coach Minor, I’m making sure the boys know that there’s still a chance…
October 26th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
What happened to Encinal player Washington? Is he hurt seriously? What caused it and is it correct that St. Mary’s sideline was cheering when he went down?
Wow!
October 26th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Whats up with all this talk about an Ex-B-High Tackle at Encinal? The one who lives in Alameda & lived in Alameda when he attended B-high? Talk about Reggie Bordeneax use to attend Encinal til he got recruited (suckered) into attending B-High as a RB & promised recruiting & blown is high school career.
Carter wants to help Brown Ryan so the next Josh Tatum (or Mario Cox) knows school to attend to get recruited. He’ll help you fo sho he’ll also take your rawest future players & smile at you.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Having been reading about the St. Mary’s-Encinal game. Lots of penalities for taunting? What was all that about. Was thated coached by St. Mary’s ? What about St. Mary’s coaching when the Encinal player Washington went down? Why was Encinal coaching allowing cussing to refs from their players? Mabey these two programs should clean it up a little- or was it the heat of battle?
Some points to consider- following De La Salle for years-
1. When an injury occurs and player is down, your team should remove themselves from the area, group up and take a knee.
2. There is no taunting. Coach Lad would pull a player asap for that kind of behavior.
3. De La Salle has always sent a trainer or Dr. to the scene if their is a serious injury to the other team. Opposing coaches should not make gestures or comments on a foe getting hurt. That shows no class.
Sometimes small things and character make a program. Ask De La Salle.
ENTER TO LEARN_LEAVE TO SERVE.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Washington should make it back for the play-offs. Its true that St. Mary’s coaches were cheering when he was down cuz they say he deserved it for talking sh*t. The Encinal parents working the sticks are the ones who heard it & almost got into a fight with the St. Mary’s coaches over it.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Panther Fan a CIF committee picks the participants of the bowl games. Calpreps (although not always correct about how the selection will play out as proven last year) is accurate with the top 3-4 teams in each category. Obviously winning section is the only way to go so some teams will cancel each other out. St. Mary’s (Albany) is currently listed as tenth on the DIII list ahead of Ferndale which is eleventh. Unfortunately for St. Mary’s there are going to be too many hills to climb for this to happen. If St. Mary’s (Stockton) wins the SJS DII title over Grant they are going to the Open Game. But the two teams behind them, Central Catholic and Modesto Christian, are very good. They will be playing each other most likely in the SJS DIV playoffs so one will cancel the other out. The winner will be going to the DIII sate game if St. Mary’s (stockton) doesn’t. Hope this helps.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Wow. Thanks for all the info. I guess you ask and you shall receive. I am not that bright, so it’s hard to follow for me, but it sounds like our best bet is to play hard and shoot for D-4 NCS. That would be a great accomlishment for our seniors, but one that will be very difficult. One thing I know is they will “play to the whistle”. Ask Encinal. Lol
Roeper – I am glad he will be ok for the playoffs. Thank you for the update. Like I said, he is a hell of a players. I am unaware of the coaches cheering for Washington’s injury. Not saying it didn’t happen, cuz I was in the stands, it just doesn’t sound like their steelo to do that. Maybe they were cheering a for something else. At any rate, their was a lot of extra-curricular stuff going on. None of us was on the field or the side line, so it’s all second hand info.
Go Panthers!
October 26th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Murdoc – I don’t know the story about Tatum and Cox. What are you referring to? And what about Brown Ryan?
Go Panthers!
October 26th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
panther fan u got a lucky fumble for a touchdown then brown-ryan fumbled like he usuually does n lovett got that weak score. 74 yards for brown-ryan shutdown then st.mary’s adjustment is 2 throw deep everyplay not very good coaching.
October 26th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Guru-Black – Wow. Really? “Fumble like he usually does”?? He has around 184 carries for the season and has 3 fumbles for the year. 3 FUMBLES ALL YEAR. I suck in math, but that is a fumble every 61 carries. I think any coach would take that.
Yes, it was fortunate it landed in Najee’s hands. But here is another perspective. Watching Cal Hi last night, the fumble was from a hit from behind. Helmet right on the ball (he never saw it coming). Great hit. Couldn’t one say it was lucky the helmet hit the ball? (I would say it was a good hit more than lucky). BUT – DBR broke away on the play to get out in space, thus giving the play a chance to happen. In other words, had he not broke out it never would have happenend. Najee was in the right place at the right time, but that is good ball. So it was fortunate but it wouldn’t have happened had they both not been making a play.
“Shutdown”?? Well let’s review that comment. He had 16 carries. Just 16 carries. He had 74 yards. He doesn’t get credit for the 18 he had on the “fumble play.” That would have been 92 yds. on 16 carries. That is a 5.75 yd. avg. Again, any coach would take that. Especially in a game where your O-line is giving up so much size. Did you all stop him when he bust that 25 yd run to tie the game.
I won’t question Coach Minor’s adjustment. Here is what was obvious. Ask Coach T. There gameplan was to stop DBR from beating them. Period. Any one player can be stopped if the whole game plan is to do so. In Duckett’s interview on Cal Hi – he even said it. Coach T pulled DBR to the side after the game to give him his props – maybe you should check in with Coach and see what he thinkgs of DBR. Actually, that is unnecessary, just pay attention to the game your watching next time and see every play is a run blitz. Who was that for? Did you see much there for him?
I am all for boasting – but get your facts straight and don’t just look at things from your blue tinted lenses.
Any other questions?
Go Panthers!
October 26th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
SSHHHHH….That is the sound of Guru-Black. Quiet on as a field mouse…
October 26th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Bhsfan, regarding question at No. 112, the change in format I think is more about trying to improve the selection process. It started as a pilot program with basketball two years ago and it involves designating a committee BEFORE the season, which allows those committee members to track the teams throughout the year. They can attend games and try to have a better idea about what these teams are like, rather than just learning of what they’ve done when they show up at the meeting. Personally I like the old format better, especially because as reporters, we get to sit in those rooms and hear what the coaches and committee members have to say. But the NCS has gotten good feedback from having used that format in other sports, so it appears that will be the way they go from now on.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Josh Tatum USC recruit top athlete at St. Mary’s recruited to Mac. Mario Cox stud RB on a 7-4 EC team recruited to Mac during the Carter era.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
thanks jimmy i like the old way too, and any luck on that article i asked about
hey murdoc i guess ur a coach carter hater, u should get facts straight, mario cox went to mack bcuz his older brother advised him to do so, coach carter helped the older brother get to college and carter got him in college too, as far as josh tatum live in west oakland and i think his moms still does, whats wrong with a kid going to public school where he lives, st marys is extremely expensive. oh yeah u got to college to
you really sound like a hater, all these coaches need to stop hatin on coach carter and step they game up, he is getting kids in school and doing ur job, stop drinking that haterade
October 26th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Murdoc THESE ATHLETES RECRUITED THE REAL COACH CARTER,THE MANY THAT CAME DURING HIS TENURE WITH THE MACK FAMILY, ALL TRANSFERRED TO SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW! A 100,000 SCHOLARSHIP, IF THEY STAYED AT THEIR FIRST SCHOOL, THE SCHOLARSHIP WOULDNT OF HAPPENED, AND SINCE YOU HATE N ON THE MAN, PARENTS,PLAYERS,RECRUITERS,LOVE HIM, SO YOU MUST NOT KNOW HIM, BECAUSE YOU HATIN ON A MAN WHO HELP ATHLETES GET SCHOLARSHIPS. YOU NOT HATIN ON LAD, SO STOP, RUN RICKEY RUN, GO JACKETS!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
amen to that mr fast and physical
October 26th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
MURDOC school was overwhelming for big josh, he came to berkeley as a freshman, you sound silly, how we going to recruit him, child please, he came to us, and transterred to you guys,and? Reggie is our starting free safety, how was he tricked to come play at Berkeley. Man, you hatin on kids, and programs. You cant tell me that many black kids live in Alameda, the base is close fool, and they dont sell houses to black folks in Alameda. Give me break, keep us out of your comments,because you hatin on things you dont know about! Good luck Jets miss me Murdoc, Run Rickey Run, Go Jackets!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Panther Fan not trying to start anything cause I respect yours blogs but the fumble both fumbles that were ran in for TDs were extremely lucky, fortunate or whatever you want to call it. Just seemed to kind of happen & it is what it is. Ball isn’t round it bounces real funny for everybody. Nothing you can say that St.Mary’s positioned themselves to do cause who wants to fumble. Just happened. Encinal is lucky they didn’t lose on those plays cause that would stay with them forever.
One play was bad ball handling on EHS QB the other was bad ball security on DBR. St. Mary’s was just there & had fast guys that weren’t getting caught. Definitely nothing St. Mary’s can pound their chests about. They were fortunate to get those lets just leave it like that. The cold thing is its the 2nd time that the DBR fumble has happened to Encinal this year. The samething happened in the EC game with Williams.
Jets look at it like this your do for one this year & since it already happened twice I wouldn’t worry about another on of those this year.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
old meddling, outmanned I watched the jets, to be nice, wear the little guys down, No disrespect, its hard not to play to lower teams levels, your dealing with young minds, whos focus levels can wander at times. The jets are the king of the hill flying high. Coach Minor is a friend of mine, he’s doing the best with what he has. Gome meddle to Berkeley friday at 6pm, and see what i mean, teams not playing to lower skill level teams, level. Run Ricky Run, Go Jackets
October 26th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
You right #145 just don’t get caught on anymore recruitng violations you already cost one stud WR his senior year. Just talking to kids is a violation. You got people watching your program that you don’t even know. Keep your game tight & the world wouldn’t know everything about you. Putting kids in the same house when the NCS checks is gonna get you himmed up real nice.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Panther fan. Since you put it that way,I agree. Kimani Washington will be back. And i say again St mary’s came to play and gave a good account of themselves. Coach Minor is a good guy and a good Coach no question. Fast And Physical,We know Coach Carter wasn’t trying to recruit anyone and had nothing but good things to say about Big Josh when i asked about him a while back and there are some black kids in Alameda fo sho. Jet Pride!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Murdoc The Berkeley Jazz Band, UC Davis Wideout, Joe Gray, You funny, there’s nothing to know, but since you know everything come visit the Jackets, my treat. All eyes on me, Run Rickey Run, Go Jackets!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Fast and Physical,I was at the BHS-Alameda game and trust me,I know what kind of team Zo got up there. Can’t be at B-town at 6,Gonna be watching the Jets JV’s At St Pats before the varsity Puts it down at 7:30. Jet Pride!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Thank you Old meddling coach tell him to keep his pad level down, his head up, and keep driving his feet. Good luck in the playoffs!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Fast and Physical,You must be a mind reader because i said the same thing to him today. LOL! And Good Luck to the jackets as well. Jet Pride!
October 26th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
its funny how coach carter have so many haters, but like fast and physical said parents players and recruiters love him. i had a cousin that went to st marys and when he left i wanted him to go to mack and play for carter, he would have helped him as best as he could. his parents ended up sending him to tech. { bad choice}
October 27th, 2009 at 12:11 am
Hey Roeper I see you noticed we don’t throw that much based off my comments earlier…we have been having problems with our qb whose is playing varsity football for the first time, he played only half-the season on jv’s last year as a lb so he’s very inexperienced…it’s unfortunate though we have 5 quality wr’s with different skills…we have to run until our qb come around or get better…sometimes he’ll throw an interception right @ a defender that’s scary when you’re calling the plays…our best qb is actually jakari johnson who’s the best rb in the league.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:38 am
Put him at QB, and run some veer
October 27th, 2009 at 12:40 am
hey coach green u and jb keep up the hard work, good luck the rest of the season.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:45 am
i dont think veer is an answer to throwing the ball more
October 27th, 2009 at 12:48 am
No i can line him up in A I and put that pound ground to work. LOL 9-10 yards per car !!!
O-HIGH we still remm what you did last year !!
KNIGHT PRIDE !!!
October 27th, 2009 at 12:55 am
yeah last year coach gumbs was talkin a lot of smack too. when yall play
October 27th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Perkin – Your response was thoughtfull and accurate. I wasn’t saying that DBR fumbled on purpose. What I was saying was that he had 4 guys in his face in the back field almost every time he got the rock. He was able to “make a play” twice. The TD and the “fumble play.” It was absolutely a lucky bounce that it fell righ in Najee’s hands for the score. My point is that he got into the Encinal defensive backfield with some good moves. I think we are saying the same thing, just in a different way. Sometimes two things can be equally true. Definately not pounding our chests about the “fumble play.”
The bottom line about the game, which we should put to bed, was it was a competitve game. Did Encinal “play down” to their competition or did St. Mary’s “rise up” to theirs?? It is all in the eyes of the beholder. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. What we should all take from this is that Encinal is one of, if not the best, team in D3 (I really hope they win it and get a shot at a State title). St. Mary’s is one of the best in D4 (obviously I hope we take NCS). Both teams are bringing respectability to the BSAL. And that is something Jets fans should embrace. Instead of talking down on your competition, you should take highly of them to legitimize your wins. Hello!! LOL.
I see everyone has Galvin and Cunningham 1 and 2. What about the rest of the top ten? I think Ward is pretty good too. What would he do with more carries?
Go Panthers!
October 27th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Cunningham? Wow!
1 Galvin bhs
2 Adonis Smith js
3 Williams ec
4 Allen ehs
5 Ward dls
6 Brown bod
7 Tuapoutoa (spelled wrong) Fre
8 Washington ehs
9 Johnson Castle
10 Brown – Ryan st marys / Ray js
11 Cunningham ahs
October 27th, 2009 at 10:18 am
ward has got to be either 1 or 2. When DLS played Serra, Ward ran for more yards then Smith and that was on a bum ankle and a bad o-line at the time. He’s healthy now and it shows plus the last few weeks that o-line has been playing as a unit. I’d say it’s a tossup between him and Galvin. Ward’s numbers might not be as impressive but remember who DLS played in the first three games of the season. We might get to see these two go head to head if the teams end up playing each other in playoffs. Would be quite a treat.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:18 am
No George Roberson from SL???
October 27th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Guys – the list is supposed to be East Bay top ten)’s. Smith is from San Mateo. He is good, but not East Bay.
I agree about Ward. He is very good. Might be 1, 2 or 3.
More lists??
Go Panthers!
October 27th, 2009 at 11:12 am
“i dont think veer is an answer to throwing the ball more”
there’s alot of Playaction you can do
October 27th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Revised…
1 Galvin bhs
2 Williams ec
3 Allen ehs
4 Ward dls
5 Brown bod
6 Tuapoutoa (spelled wrong) Fre
7 Washington ehs
8 Johnson Castle
9 Brown – Ryan st marys / Ray js
10 Roberson sl
11 Cunningham ahs