- East Bay Prep Corner
NCS Division-II breakdown
By Kyle Bonagura
Tuesday, October 27th, 2009 at 3:49 pm in Uncategorized.
Here is my stab at the D-II playoff picture. Not as many common opponents as D-I makes it foggier, lot of key games still to be played. Biggest game this week is probably Cardinal Newman and Rancho Cotate.
NEAR LOCKS (5):
Petaluma (7-0) — Only undefeated team, wins over Case Grande, Cotate and Maria Carillo.
Concord (6-1) — Blowout of Clayton Valley, close loss to San Ramon indicate Concord a contender for the NCS D2 title.
Casa Grande (6-1) — Only loss is to Petaluma (40-14), and is 3-1 vs the Division.
Eureka (5-2) — In its 4-team league, Eureka plays every team twice. Three blowouts the first time through. Somebody gets a roadtrip to play the Loggers when they finish 8-2.
Montgomery (5-2) — One of Montgomery’s losses came to Grant, which is like losing to DLS, it doesn’t really factor in to the final record as far as the committee will be concerned. Key win: Cardinal Newman, yes you read that right. With Santa Rosa, Maria Carrillo and Piner ahead, Monty is looking at an 8-2 record.
PROBABLES (5)
Clayton Valley (6-1) — The Uglies have beaten just one team with a winning record (Mt. Diablo) and were torched by Concord. With YV, College Park and Northgate left, they could be anywhere from 6-4 to 9-1 to end the year, I’m leaning toward 9-1 and a playoff berth.
Pinole Valley (5-1) — Key win: Oakand Tech, which beat Mt. Diablo. Key loss: Alameda, one of only 2 NCS DII teams they play. Big game this week with El Cerrito if they win they are looking at an 8-2 record.
Ygnacio Valley (6-1) — Wins over Hayward, Northgate and Mt. Diablo mean YV is likely in, but it finishes with Clayton, Concord and College Park.
Windsor (6-1) — Lone loss is to one of NorCal’s best (Inderkum, 29-0), but of the six wins, only last week’s overtime win against D3 Healdburg was against a team with a winning record. Windsor finishes with Casa Grande, Petaluma and Analy (5-3).
Hayward (5-2) — There was a time, not too long ago, when being the runner-up in the HAAL was quite the accomplishment. Hayward will probably finish the year 8-2 with no wins against winning teams. Key loss: Ygnacio Valley. Key win: Ummmm … O’Dowd? Did you just laugh? I did.
BUBBLE (7)
Cardinal Newman (3-4) — Scheduling tough out of league finally caught up with the Cardinals: Central Catholic, Del Oro and Palma are a combined 18-2-1. In the division, you have to figure CN is still among the elite, even with the 9-0 loss to Montgomery. (Never though I’d see CN get shut out, in league no less). Cotate, Ukiah and Carrillo remain, pencil them in for 5-5 or 6-4 and the low seed no one wants to play.
Rancho Cotate (4-3) — A win against Cardinal Newman this week is possible. If that happens, Cotate will go on to finish 7-3 with its losses to Monty, Petaluma and Carrillo. If it loses to Newman, 6-4 will make it tougher to get in. 2-point loss to Petaluma should help in the coaches ranking.
Alameda (3-3-1) — Wins against Pinole and San Lorenzo are very important. The Hornets will finish 3-0 against NCS D2 teams – two losses came to D1 teams (Newark, Berkeley) – a loss (Encinal) and a tie to NCS D3 teams. Consider the Hornets firmly on the bubble.
Northgate (4-3) — The Broncos have a shot, but the playoffs aren’t likely. With Concord, Mt. Diable and Clayton Valley to end the season they probably end at 4-6 or 5-5. That won’t cut it. No key wins to speak of and a loss to 2-5 Las Lomas.
Maria Carrillo (3-4) — In a tough spot, could end up 5-5, 4-6 is more likely. Do have a win over Cotate, but losses to Petaluma, Case Grande, Windsor and to 1-6 Santa Rosa hurt.
Mt. Diablo (4-3) — Mt. D was looking good after its 4-0 start, but with College Park, Northgate and Concord left a 4-0 to 4-6 season is definitely possible, if not probable.
San Lorenzo (4-3) — Losses to Mt. D and Alameda are big. Wins against Moreau, Castro Valley, Tennyson and O’Dowd aren’t. If SL wins its last three (Mt. Eden, Arroyo and Hayward) it has a chance. 6-4 (loss to Hayward) probably won’t cut it with no key wins.
Las Lomas (2-5) — Win out against Miramonte, Dublin and Campo and the Knights get to 5-5. But does a 5-5 Las Lomas team get in over a 5-5 Cardinal Newman team or a 6-4 Cotate team? Probably not.
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October 27th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I would like to see a rematch of the first round of last years ncs between Casa Grande and Concord. Concord is a much better team this year. Should be a great NCS tournament.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
It’s obvious that this writer knows absolutely nothing about football. “Biggest game this week is probably Cardinal Newman and Rancho Cotate.”
????? Are you kidding me? One team is one game over .500 and the other has a losing record. What planet do you live on where this comes close to being a big game? Neither team is close to even winning their league and their playoff hopes look just as slim.
And get off Clayton Valley’s jock… 9-1 highly unlikely. You’ll change your tune after this week when they lose to YV who dismantled Mt. Diablo, a team CV struggled to beat (14-10) and maybe College Park, who is more than up for the task of giving them at least three in the loss column. The only game left on their schedule that’s probably a lock is Northgate. Just because they went undeated LAST YEAR does not mean they are the same team from a year ago. The Mt. Diablo game proved this when everyone thought they were going to roll over the Devils.
GET A CLUE!!!
YV will beat CV and then Concord and win the DVAL. Mark my words…
October 27th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
As far as determining the NCS field at DII, I’ll stand by my statement that Cardinal Newman and Rancho Cotate is the biggest game as the result will have a direct impact on what teams get in the playoffs. I didn’t say it was the game featuring the best teams.
A win for Cotate nearly guarantees it will get in, and a win for Newman (which is in second place in its league, so it wouldn’t be accurate to say “is not close to even winning their league”) means the Cardinals will probably finish 6-4 and get in as well.
I don’t know if you’ve followed NCS football much over the years, but Cardinal Newman has won three of the past four NCS titles in its division, lost to SRV in the finals in 2007 and has represented NorCal in the State Bowl game two of the three years they’ve had it. If Newman were to lose and miss out on the NCS playoffs it would be a big deal.
As for “being on Clayton’s jock,” well, I didn’t vote for Clayton in the East Bay poll and didn’t say they will finish 9-1. All I wrote was that I’m leaning more towards 9-1 than 6-4. I actually think YV will win this week, so my tune will be the same.
October 28th, 2009 at 7:02 am
FootballSmart
No need to flame all over Kyle. I thought he did a great job going over all the possible teams in the Div 2 playoff picture. Remember that Kyle and the rest of the NEWSPAPER writer staff do not get compensated extra to be online writing blogs about HS playoff pictures and stats.
Speaking from the majority of us HS football fanatics, Kyle please keep up your extra indepth coverage/analysis for us because everyone enjoys it bigtime!
October 28th, 2009 at 9:04 am
FootballSmart
Please list the 3 reasons you think YV will beat Concord?
Patrone rushed for 400 yards last year and they still lost.
October 28th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Also to Kyle
Is there anything Concord can do to get the 1 seed besides hope that Petaluma loses?
October 28th, 2009 at 9:15 am
How is Alameda a “bubble” team when Pinole Valley is a “probable”? Head-to-head and division record are the the most important criteria, right? AHS beat PV and will also be 3-0 against DII teams (Pinole will be 1-1, assuming they both beat Richmond). Overall record (PV 5-1, and AHS 3-3-1) is not more important than those things. Alameda should be upgraded to probable.
October 28th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Pink- If Petaluma wins out, I don’t think there is any way Concord would get the No. 1 seed. Petaluma still has games against Windsor (6-1) and Healdsburg (5-2), so there is a chance.
EBfootball- Head is head is very important, but Alameda needs to beat El Cerrito before I’d be willing to upgrade them. If the Hornets lose that game and finish 5-4-1, their chances won’t be very good. Pinole at 8-2 would get in over Alameda at 5-4-1, regardless of the head-to-head.
If Alameda beats El Cerrito, the Hornets shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
October 28th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Nice review of D2.
Cardinal Newman is really, really down, and they have zero legit athletes this year, getting by on hard work and good system.
Alameda will beat El Cerrito handily.
Not in Order but My 12-team bracket today is:
Concord
Petaluma
CG
Eureka
Montgomery
Clayton
Pinole
Windsor
YV
Cardinal Newman (based on reputation mostly)
Alameda
Rancho Cotate
October 28th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Pink Socks
The 3 reasons why YV will beat Concord…
#1 and probably the most important reason is the fact that Patrone rushed for so many yards and YV still lost to them. Last year YV was one dimensional because all they did was rely on Patrone for their offense. New offense and more balanced attack. Only team that really shut them down was Oakland Tech. Concord basically outscored YV last year because neither team could stop the other which leads to the #2 reason.
YV is much better defensively than last year. They have the #1 defense in DVAL play giving up zero points in two games. (that 7 points Mt. Diablo scored was on an interception, so it does not count against the defense). YV has pretty much taken care of business all year on defense. They’ve given up more than 20 points in one game (Oakland Tech). Concord’s offense is no surprise to YV and they will defend them better than last year.
#3 The DVAL Title will be on the line and I put my money on YV’s defense doing a better job against Concord’s offense than Concord’s defense doing on YV’s offense.
October 28th, 2009 at 10:33 am
I will give you the 2 reasons you won’t
your cornerbacks, if you dont have 2 of them that are both 6 feet tall and can run you are in trouble
also your amazing defensive stats were posted MtD an Northgate, while Concord has defended CP and CV very well, the teams YV has taken care of business against are all non-playoff teams in fact how many of YV’s opponents have a winning record.
Be careful what you wish for,if the league title is ion the line only Concord has roved it can step up and play a big game in a big game environment.
October 28th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Alameda will not get in. They lost to San Lorenzo. I repeat, they lost to San Lorenzo. Did you hear me? Alameda lost to San Lorenzo. The same San Lorenzo who beat BOD. Moreover, Encinal (D3)dominated Alameda (D2).
October 28th, 2009 at 10:39 am
I mean they will lose to San Lorenzo
October 28th, 2009 at 10:41 am
No. They barely squeeked one out against SLZ. Thats why they wont get in.
October 28th, 2009 at 11:38 am
“Alameda will not get in. They lost to San Lorenzo. I repeat, they lost to San Lorenzo. Did you hear me? Alameda lost to San Lorenzo.”
LOL To bring some facts into the discussion, Alameda won 20-0 against San Lorenzo.
October 28th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Murdoc=Idiot…dont pay him no mind.
October 28th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Positive Voice:
Who cares that the staff writers don’t get compensated extra for being online writing blogs about anything? What does that have to do with the fact that I don’t agree with Kyle that a team with a losing record playing another team that is almost in the same position is a big game when it looks like neither will or should make the playoffs based on what they did in the past when they have not won in the present? If he can’t take the feedback he gets then he shouldn’t write the blogs, he doesn’t need you to come to his defense.
Kyle:
So what Cardinal Newman is in 2nd place in their league, they’re in a weak league! The only team in that league with a winning record (overall) is the 1st place team, Montgomery, who they lost to by the way, so it is accurate to say that Cardinal Newman won’t even win their league (that’s if they can tie with Montgomery as far as league records, which is doubtful) since they loose the head to head match up. Montgomery would pretty much have to tank the rest of their league games for Newman to even have a shot at winning the league. Don’t see it happening.
Everyone else is 3-4 or worse overall in that league. I follow HS footaball all over the nation so I’m well aware of Cardinal Newman and they’re PAST history.
The fact that a team with a weaker strength of schedule than other teams can get into the playoffs based on what they did last year and in the past is a slap in the face of all the other teams that have better records than them in D2 THIS YEAR.
If they make the playoffs just because they can beat only weak teams in they’re league but lose to good non-league opponents will be a joke.
A win for either team should guarantee them nothing as far as a playoff berth. But of course you and perhaps the committee along with KillerD will only base them getting into the playoffs off of what they’re past reputation is as opposed to what they’ve done this year and against who.
Same will happen to De LaSalle probably getting a #1 seed in D1 just because they can beat the weak local teams but lose to the good teams they schedule in non-league despite the fact that other D1 teams with better records deserve to be seeded higher.
And if you actually think and really believe YV will beat CV this week then how can you be leaning towards them finishing 9-1? What sense does that make? It’s a total contradiction of your own statement isn’t it? If you thought YV would win why didn’t you write that?
Nevermind, I forgot, they have the rep now because they went undefeated for the first time in school history LAST YEAR and beat teams with a combined 9-26-1 record this year prior to playing their league schedule.
Pink: If Petaluma wins ALL they’re games why shouldn’t they be the #1 seed? Real simple, they beat everyone on the schedule. Five of the seven teams in their league have WINNING records (5-3 or better). Concord has already lost a game and should loose again against YV (another D2 school) will they deserve a #1 seed if Petaluma doesn’t loose a game?
KillerD
Based on how the teams played THIS YEAR to date and not just on rep the playoff picture should be like this:
#1 Petaluma 7-0… enough said
#2 Windsor 6-1
#3 Casa Grande 6-1
#4 Ygnacio Valley 6-1… with a quality win over Hayward and a lost to another quality team in Oakland Tech, they deserve to be seeded higher than Concord. They’re head to head game will settle this issue completely.
#5 Concord 6-1… #5 based on very weak non-league schedule compared to the rest of the 6-1 teams. (wins over De Anza 0-8 /PF:24 PA:387, Jefferson 3-4/PF:166 PA:189 and Skyline 2-5/PF:104 PA:249)
#6 Clayton Valley 6-1
#7 Pinole Valley 5-1
#8 Montgomery 5-2
#9 Eureka 5-2
#10 Hayward 5-2 (based on having 2 more wins than a 3-4 Cardinal Newman and not reputation of past)
#11 Rancho Cotate 4-3
#12 Mt.Diablo 4-3 (based on a WINNING record as opposed to a 3-3-1 Alameda as well as a win over a common opponent that Alameda lost to that also has a winning record in 4-3 San Lorenzo)
Cardinal Newman and Alameda? Until they both win more games they shouldn’t even be in the discussion.
October 28th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
MURDOC- You’re trippin. Since when is 20-0 barely squeaking by?
Kyle- AHS does have to handle business against EC (I’ll be at that game for sure) but so does PV. That’s definetly not an assumed win for either team. Also overall/division/league record is only a minimum qualification. You gotta be .500 or above overall, division, or league just to be qualified for NCS playoffs. After that, the higher qualifications determine seeding and head-to-head is the most important of those. So if PV’s in then AHS is in and seeded above them.
October 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Here’s the site for NCS Playoff qualifications…
http://www.cifncs.org/sports/football/files/champbull.pdf
October 28th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Pink:
What non-league teams did Concord beat? Wins over De Anza 0-8 /PF:24 PA:387, Jefferson 3-4/PF:166 PA:189 and Skyline 2-5/PF:104 PA:249…
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
How many playoff teams has Concord beaten? One so far… Clayton Valley just as many as YV
Can you say… San Ramon Valley? What about them Pink? They didn’t have corners 6 feet tall but still managed to beat Concord. It’s not about how tall YV’s corners are. It will be about how good they’re defense is compared to Concord’s defense.
Clayton Valley prior to playing Concord beat teams with a combined 9-26-1 record so beating them does not impress me. Neither team has played anybody.
And College Park? Who have they beaten? They’re 3-4 overall.
YV has beaten two quality teams in Hayward 5-2 and Mt. Diablo 4-3 by a combined 64-34. Both could end up in the playoffs. The only team Concord has beaten that even has a shot a the playoffs is Clayton Valley.
How many points did Concord give up in their wins over a 3-4 CP and overrated CV? Let’s see 21 and 20. How many points did YV’s defense give up against a 4-3 Mt. Diablo and 4-3 Northgate… ZERO!!!! Both teams that should beat and did beat. Shutting them both out in fact.
Concord is a good team. You asked for three reason why they will loose to YV and those reasons still apply. Your one reason why they won’t makes no sense at all. So what they have two tall receivers. The question will be can Lloyd get the ball to them when he is pressured by a team with a good defense? So far San Ramon Valley has proven me right.
By the way how do you know YV doesn’t have corners as tall as 6 feet to use against them?
October 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Well with all of your excellent points I think you guys should order the league banner now. See you in 2 weeks. Please remeber to beat CV so this all means something.
October 28th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
footballsmart please explain why DLS does not deserve to be number 1 seed? you are claiming that kyle doesn’t know anything about football, but you are saying DLS is beating weak local teams therefore they don’t deserve to be number 1. Tell me who has better wins then DLS right now. The overall record of the opponents they beat is 22-13. Both B-High and Deer Valley who are undefeated have overall opponent records of 19-31 and 17-41-1. So really DLS is beating the weak teams right? Is part of their seeding based on the past yes but when you have won 17 NCS titles in a row you deserve that.
October 28th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
FootballSmart- I don’t have a problem with the negative feedback at all, if we can get more discussion going, I’m all for that.
I don’t see Newman winning the league either, but I do see them finishing 6-4 and if Newman finishes at 6-4 its going to make the playoffs. Does their reputation factor into that? Absolutely, it works like that every year. Right or wrong, that’s just how it is.
This main difference on how you and I are looking at things is that you are looking at right now and I’m looking at what it’ll look like in three weeks. The committee won’t be picking teams based on how they were through Week 7, so it seems pointless to pick and seed teams without factoring what could/should/might happen final three weeks.
Mt. Diablo, which is winless in league, is a perfect example, you have them slotted at No. 12, but with College Park, Northgate and Concord left I think its unlikely Mt. D will have a winning record at the end of the year — when it matters.
Newman played, by far, the toughest non-league schedule of any NCS D2 team. If they went out and scheduled Irvington, Kennedy-Sac and De Anza (combined 3-22) like Mt. D did, Newman would be in line for a top-4 seed.
As for your take on DLS, that is completely off base. “Just because DLS can beat the weak local teams” DLS has beaten the best of the local team and has been doing so for two decades. Do the coaches at Deer Valley or Berkeley even believe honestly believe they are better than DLS and deserve to be the top two seeds? My guess is no. Now that doesn’t mean they’ll be laying down by any means, but if there is one team that should have earned the respect of the rest of the area its DLS.
I’m said leaning more towards 9-1 than 6-4 for Clayton. 8-2 would be closer to 9-1 than it would be to 6-4, right?
EBFootball-Definitely agree. With three weeks left, there is too much football to be played to get into the seeding situation with much certainty.
October 28th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Don’t worry PINK socks, YV will beat CV. I’ll take a picture of the banner for you.
October 28th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
i just realized you are the same guy picking DLS #3…. and bashing a guy for working extra
good luck this weekend
October 28th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Kyle Bonagura Says:
This main difference on how you and I are looking at things is that you are looking at right now and I’m looking at what it’ll look like in three weeks. The committee won’t be picking teams based on how they were through Week 7, so it seems pointless to pick and seed teams without factoring what could/should/might happen final three weeks.
Mt. Diablo, which is winless in league, is a perfect example, you have them slotted at No. 12, but with College Park, Northgate and Concord left I think its unlikely Mt. D will have a winning record at the end of the year — when it matters.
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I guess you’re not keeping track of the other people responding… I put what I think what the playoff picture SHOULD be right now solely based on what KillerD put in his response, nothing more, nothing less…
KillerD Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Nice review of D2.
Cardinal Newman is really, really down, and they have zero legit athletes this year, getting by on hard work and good system.
Alameda will beat El Cerrito handily.
Not in Order but My 12-team bracket today is:
Concord
Petaluma
CG
Eureka
Montgomery
Clayton
Pinole
Windsor
YV
Cardinal Newman (based on reputation mostly)
Alameda
Rancho Cotate
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If we are going by RIGHT now like KillerD, then I don’t agree with what he said. My response was based on the above, nothing more, nothing less…
and at the present time as I stated Mt. Diablo and Hayward would be more deserving of a playoff berth than a 3-4 Cardinal Newman and a 3-3-1 Alameda no matter what either teams rep is. I don’t believe Mt. Diablo will make the playoffs either and I never said they would. But if we go by what they’ve done thus far they would and should.
I know full well that there are three games left in the season and that anything can happen. I’ve watched a lot more football than you seem to think, even on the HS level.
I unlike the rest of you however don’t base everything on a teams rep and what they did in the past. If that were the case then they should just hand over the championship to DLS, Cardianl Newman and every other team that has stellar reps every year because after all, they earned it based on rep alone right?
WHY BOTHER TO PLAY THE GAMES ANYMORE!!!
Sports writers are always handing championships to teams just based on their past rep and totally ignore what’s going on in the present a lot of times.
Coaches even coach this way in games because they have the Mike Tyson opponent syndrome of being afraid to really play a team like DLS or Cardinal Newman hard or try because after all, they are too powerful to beat because they’ve beaten so many teams in the past. The what possible chance do we stand against them mentality. Let’s just lay down for them and move on to the next opponent.
And just because I don’t agree with your assessment Kyle does not make my feedback negative either. Not all who read your blog are going to automatically agree with everything you say.
“Kyle Bonagura Says:
Clayton Valley (6-1) — The Uglies have beaten just one team with a winning record (Mt. Diablo) and were torched by Concord. With YV, College Park and Northgate left, they could be anywhere from 6-4 to 9-1 to end the year, I’m leaning toward 9-1 and a playoff berth.”
Sure sounds like you pretty much gave those three wins to CV based on their rep if you’re leaning towards a 9-1 record as opposed to what you’re saying now that I’ve chimed in and challenged that thought.
It’s funny how everyone changes their tune when FACTS are brought into the equation as opposed to relying solely on teams reputations.
FACT: DLS is a PRIVATE school playing with a slight advantage against PUBLIC schools who don’t have the same advantage of being an ALL boys school like DLS. No restrictions on who can go to the school as long as the parents can pay the tuition they have the pick of the litter of boys who actually have to try out for the team as opposed to most of their opponents who probably have to beg kids to play football at their school.
Now that they are playing schools from outside the area we’re seeing the luster on that rep starting to tarnish a bit aren’t we. Granted it’s not their fault they are in the situation they are in as far as being a private school having to play a bunch of public schools every year but let’s put things in the proper perspective and call them as they really are. If they were a public school like everyone else we probably would even be talking about them because the playing filed would be a tad bit even.
October 28th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
MT.D-> Has a decent team, It does very well, for a team that has low number of players, yet talented.
I would say that the same applies to Northgate, although not as talented, they have a burning desire to succeed, they know what is like to lose, and they lay it all on the line, because they don’t have anything to lose.
Clayton valley’s success, has been due to the excellent coaching staff. CV overall, is nothing out of this world, as far as talent goes, but the Coaching staff, molds mediocraty to well above mediocraty.
C.P. On the other hand, needs to improve in the coaching dept., they have plenty of players for them to be competing for the league title.
Concord-> by far, is the most blessed in the leauge. many players, great talent, great coaching strategy.
Y.V.-> is just plain BadAzz. The Warrior, isn’t not just a mascot, it is a way of life. The Pride in the culture of smash-mouth football has been passed down generation to generation, consistently bringing it until the last play.
October 28th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
seriously you should be kicked out of blog for honestly thinking DLS doesn’t deserve the #1 seed…they lost to 2 teams tops in the nation give me a break…until they lose to a east bay team i think all players, coaches, fans, writers, etc. honestly believes they are still the premier team…will they win it all, well i wouldn’t bet against them. teams are definately catching up to them, but they are still the staple that every northern california team should strive for. so with that yes they are the #1 team until they are beaten by one of us…they have not lost a game in the east bay, they play in the toughest league and neither deer valley or berkeley played an ebal team this year so there are no common opponents this year. deer valley and berekley are both great teams and deserve a high ranking, but not #1 until you dethrone possibly the most storied high school football team in the nation over the past two decades…
October 28th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
d-2 is looking very weak this year. alameda is very weak if they get in wow. not alot of athletes in this bracket besides concord.
October 28th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
just because someone is the number 1 seed doesn’t mean they win the championship. no one is saying that. we are talking solely about seeding. DLS has earned the number 1 seed, if they win out, based on the fact that they will be the champion of the toughest league in NCS and have a non-conference win over Serra which is a very good football team. That is why they are number one. Yes they have two losses to teams that are top ten in the country and one was a one point loss in overtime. A loss is a loss but those teams would destroy anybody else in section. And again 17 straight titles. This isn’t some team that was good last year or for only a few years. they have been good for two decades. DLS has beaten out of state teams before. And the rep is not starting to tarnish everyone still wants to play them. Yes they are a private school so what plenty of good players don’t go to DLS and play at their area schools. But so what it is what it is and they play who they play. you made the comment they play weak area schools and should not be the number 1 seed. The FACT is they beat some of the best schools the area has to offer.
October 28th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
and i am the one who advocates that DLS and all other private schools should be in their only playoff system, so i am definately not biased in their favor…
October 28th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Footballsmart you are right. YV does not need to have two 6 ft tall corners. But you can’t say that San Roman proved your point by Ricky not being able to give the receivers the ball because they still had scored 22 points. Really the game came down to a fumble in the 4th which went from concord sealing the deal to SRV taking the lead.
Concord’s D is much tougher than last year so Patrone will not 0 yards. And we beat them last year when he had 400 yards so they might have to throw more this year. It wont be easy to throw when we have a future PAC 10 corner. A very big safety and a quick corner who might not be 6 ft tall but can jump.
Concords D is much tougher than last year so Patrone will not run for 400 yards. And if we beat them last year when he had 400 yards so they might have to throw more this year. It wont be easy to throw when we have a future PAC 10 corner. A very big safety and a quick corner who might not be 6 ft tall but can jump.
And you really think YV’s D can stop Ricky for throwing over 300 yards. He already has thrown 27 td’s and has 4 of the top 5 receivers in the league to throw to. On one side he has a fast 6’4 reciever and on the other side a 6’5 receiver, and anybody who was at the CV game could tell slot receiver on the left is crazy athletic.
So even if Patrone gets 300 yards concord’s O will outscore the YV warriors
October 28th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
congrats to footballsmart for being the biggest moron to ever post on this blog. talk about an inferiority complex lol
October 28th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I concur that YV will beat CV on Friday night. The real game will be CO vs. YV the following Saturday at YV. Basically that will be the league championship game. Both Concord and YV will enter as undefeated in league, both with 7-1 (3-0) records.
YV with only CP to get past the next week and Concord will easily handle MT on the final week of the season. One team at 9-1 and the other at 8-2 to finish the season.
As for Lloyd and his receivers and YV and their corners, you have to remember that only 3 things can happen when you pass, and 2 of them are bad. If a completed pass was earned by measuring who was taller, then we wouldn’t play the games. Small players can play very big with technique and position. In the NFL, the average cornerback is much shorter than the average receiver, obviously size does not matter. Lloyd is very good, he deserves his props as does the receivers, but be careful of that pride thing, it can ruin the best of athletes.
Putting the ball in the air has inherent risks, and in YV you have the #1 defense in the league. Pass if you must, but you don’t get to choose the outcome.
YV has two 6’3″ receivers with proven hands, a QB with the #2 rating in the league(behind Lloyd) AND Patrone Wood and Steven Porchet, both top 5 in the league rushing. You stop one attack, you get the other. Look at the stats, YV’s attack is almost exactly evenly balanced. CO is heavy on the pass…if that doesn’t work against the #1 defense, then what?
And to be fair, Concord did beat YV last year, but all will agree it was on a last second heart stopping play at the goal line, not hardly a dominating win. I’m sure Hamilton is more concerned about YV than he was about CV.
October 28th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Congrats to Tunnel Love for really having nothing to contribute other than slam me. You wasted key strokes… Stop being a hater because you can’t think of anything useful to write.
Minutemen says-
And you really think YV’s D can stop Ricky for throwing over 300 yards. He already has thrown 27 td’s and has 4 of the top 5 receivers in the league to throw to. On one side he has a fast 6’4 reciever and on the other side a 6’5 receiver, and anybody who was at the CV game could tell slot receiver on the left is crazy athletic.
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Your bias towards Concord is obvious so it’s almost pointless to go over the fact that Concord has beaten an 0-8 team in De Anza that has scored a total of 24 points in 8 games while giving up 387 and counting, a Jefferson team who is 3-4/PF:166 PA:189 and Skyline team who is 2-5/PF:104 PA:249 really not impressive when you actually put their schedule under a micro scope.
You could probably throw for the same amount of yards playing against defenses that can’t challenge the local Pop Warner teams too.
I’ve actually seen Concord play in person against De Anza, Skyline and CV and I was not impressed given the way those teams played them defensively. If you can even call what De Anza and Skyline did as playing defense. I’ve seen better defense played in 7 on 7 scrimmages.
They were lucky to even get back into the game against SRV. I have the game film if you want to actually see what really happened in the game. They were dominated most of the game by SRV and scored their first TD after two straight phantom PI calls that virtually put them on the goal line and then scored their other two TDs after the SRV D-coordinator for some odd reason stopped coming with the same pressure in the second half, basically going to the same passive zone defense most of their opponents play against them.
Good thing he went back to the lock down defense that got them the 21-0 lead in the first place. And SRV did what any good team will do against them, make the plays when it counts after letting them back in the game. That’s why they coughed it up in the 4th.
Other than that game who have they played?
We’ll see how tough Concord’s D is when we compare their play against common opponents with YV and then you tell me who’s D is better. So far YV has two straight shut outs vs. common opponents. Concord has given up 21 and 20 points already to DVAL teams YV will also play. If Northgate scores a point this Friday night against Concord we will have the truth on how much more better their D is than YV’s.
Your remark about about Patrone getting 0 yards is so ridiculous it’s not even worth addressing. And YV is not just the Patrone Wood show this year look at the stats. He won’t need to rush for 400 yards in order for them to win.
As I stated earlier, YV will win simply because of this… their defense is better than Concord’s. Period. That was the ONLY reason they beat YV last year. The fact that Patrone got 400 yards against them and they still lost only proves that point. Offensively they did their job but the defense didn’t do theirs. That won’t happen this year.
The number one defense vs. the number one offense. I will put my money on the defense.
October 28th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
So far Seemslike is a person who has some real insight.
It all comes down to how well the players are coached at each position and I can assure you that YV’s corners are coached on their technique a lot better than they were last year and you won’t see their DBs stand in awe of Concord’s WRs and simply let them catch passes uncontested like most of their opponents have with the exception of SRV (the one team they’ve lost to so far).
That alone will make the difference in a game where one teams offense is balanced and the other teams offense is virtually a one dimensional passing team with no running game to speak of.
Concord’s offense is stoppable. Play their WRs physical, hit them in the mouth and put pressure on the QB all game and you shut them down. So far everyone they’ve played (again with the exception of SRV) has been too afraid of them to employ this defensive scheme on them.
I’d love to see them play a team like Oakland Tech, Pittsburgh or even DLS. Teams that would smash them in the mouth.
Concord will have every reason in the world to be concerned about YV because seemslike made my point. Last year’s win by Concord was no big thing. YV remembers that, trust me. You’ll see a completely different YV team this year against Concord. Hamilton and the Minutemen better pull out every trick play they can think of to try and win the game. It’s the only thing that will help them because YV won’t be surprised by the dink and dunk passes and bubble screens that they get by on weaker under coached opponents.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
oh did i say Patrone will get 0 yards. My bad i meant 300 yards haha. sorry
October 28th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
It won’t matter how many yards Patrone gets against Concord because the YV offense is more than the Patrone Wood show. It will be all about YV’s defense and how they do against Concord’s one dimensional offense.
YV’s offense is too balanced to really be stopped by anyone other than themselves. It took a bogus call on an obvious forward pass and two trick plays and some sketchy calls by OAL refs for Oakland Tech to get a win against YV.
You keep bringing up Patrone when he is not and will not be the issue in the game between Concord and YV.
October 28th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
In fact Minutemen if you go back and look at the DVAL stats you will see the following…
Patrone Wood and Steven Porschet are #3 and 4 in rushing. Patrone is one game away from being the leader in the league… 86 yards behind Stover from Northgate and 32 yards behind Jeremy McKillip from Clayton Valley. After the games on Friday night he will probably pass them both because YV plays CV and Concord’s D is good enough to stop Stover from having a big game.
In fact I predict that Stover’s numbers will drop like a rock falling from the sky now because Northgate is now in league playing against much better defenses.
Concord has no one on the list in the rushing category.
Individually, YV has at least one person in the top 5 in each of the individual offensive categories where Concord has players only in passing and receiving and their numbers are mainly against weak teams defensively.
Team wise YV is 3rd in offense with their numbers coming mostly on the ground where as Concord’s numbers are coming mostly from the air against poor defenses.
On defense YV has pretty much balanced the ledger as far as number of yards given up on the ground compared to passing.
Concord has given up a lot more yards on the ground than they have through the air and thus are more vulnerable to being run on as opposed to passed on (YV’s strength is obviously running the football but the fact that they can pass when they need to now is huge).
As I stated before, this game will come down to YV’s defense against Concord’s offense. With pressure on Concord’s QB and decent play by YV’s DBs YV should win the game this year because we both know Patrone Wood is the best back Concord will face all season long and they have yet to prove they can stop him in the four year’s they’ve faced him. Now add the other players they give the ball to as well and tell me who is better at stopping who?
October 28th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
FOOTBALL SMART,I AGREE WITH U ALOT JUST CAUSE WE GOT SMALL CORNERS AND CONCORD GOTS BIG RECEIEVERS DAT DOESNT MEAN NOTHING ITS HOW PHYSICAL OUR CB’S CAN GET AND TRUST ME ULL SEE ME GUARDING GALINDO DA WHOLE GAME IM ONLY 5’8 BUT TRUST ME HE WONT MAKE ALL HIS CATCHES.
IM NUMBER 14 RB/CB STEVEN PORSCHET.THIS WEEK HAS BEEN A PRETTY GOOD WEEK OF PRACTICE,DEFENSE AND OFFENSE ARE ALL ON SAME PAGE ,EVEN THOUGH WE GOT CV DIS FRIDAY IT SHOULD PREPARE US FOR CONCORD NEXT WEEKEND.I JUST LIKE HOW THAT GUY (MINUTEMEN)IS TALKIN ALL DIS MESS.I JUST HOPE I CAN SHUT HIS PIE HOLE UP.LEETTTS GOOO WARRIORS!!!!!!
October 28th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
It’s not just Patrone either, if it’s not him it’s Porschet. There just isn’t any dropoff at RB, there is always fresh legs to carry the ball. Patrone runs over you and Porschet runs around you.
I’m confident that YV will take CV. Concord will be a much better game, there is great talent on both teams. I like that there are more weapons on YV, but the Concord offense can score in the blink of an eye..YV will need to step up an already solid defense and pound them on offense and keep the Concord offense off the field. No sense in trading punches.
October 28th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
There will be no trading of punches. Concord will get some plays on YV but they won’t be scoring in the blink of an eye. YV’s defense is not De Anza, Skyline, Jefferson and every other team that rolled over and let their WRs have carte blanche getting open on their routes.
And YV will more than likely do just as you said… pound the ball down Concord’s throat and give their offense limited opportunities to score. If YV gets up by 2 TDs or more it will be game over. Barring a total collapse by the YV defense Concord will be hard pressed to come back from that kind of deficit.
October 28th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
this is great in all and mostly agree with these predictions but im must say im sort of annoyed that Alameda is always bashed on. They really need to be upgraded after there win over pinole. Being at that game, i must say that is wasnt a fluke that it Alameda is clearly the better team with an awesome runningback few teams can stop. Last year does play a part (3-7), but is a little respect to much to ask. They have proven, i believe, themselves this year and have 3 games left to shove it back in your faces. 2 of the teams will fall to alameda and for El Cerrito, there not looking to hot. Really El Cerrito, 50-0 to berkeley…Alameda put up a better fight.
And as for black guru, who ever you are, you might wanna input more so you dont look like a complete idiot and people can actually evaluate what you are saying
October 28th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
WILL SEE WAT HAPPENS GUYS.
-#14 STEVEN PORSCHET YV CB/RB
October 28th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
I sincerely hope you’re right, but I’m not as convinced as you are that it will be that easy.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Pink Socks Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Well with all of your excellent points I think you guys should order the league banner now. See you in 2 weeks. Please remeber to beat CV so this all means something.
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I guess we remembered to beat CV. 35-14, I think was the final score?
Who’s the moron now Tunnel Love?
Minutemen, don’t forget that this coming Saturday Concord will not be playing against Northgate, De Anza or Skyline. As Pink Socks alluded to earlier, this game means something.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:03 am
CONCORD is the best team, they have really talented wide receivers, and a great QB, and RB in F.hightower.
Ricky has great accuracy with his throws, but he doesn’t even need it with, the talented receivers who can catch in traffic. THROW RICky THROW!
October 31st, 2009 at 10:12 am
Concord will win the DVAL Championship next week!! Ygnacio’s Team are like a team of blue-collar workers, that can roll up their sleeves and go to work, relying on nothing but their effort, on the other hand Concord is a team of elite, athletic, skill players, that are just too much for some regular joe’schmoes!
Effort will not be enough to stop the Minuteman, because it only takes a minute for them to score!!
October 31st, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Minutemanmom—your prejudice is showing. Check yourself and say what you really mean…
Sadly, I’m not surprised.
October 31st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
minutemanmom-its hilarious to see yous say yv is a bunch of schmoes.hah.wat do you think concord high is?psh.yv against concord is going to be a great game and i wouldnt be surprised if YV won.yea concord came close to san ramon.so?they havent played yv yet.so please excuse my rudeness.but wait till game time “mom”.Ygnacio has just as many “skilled” players as concord.yes concord has around 4 key players.but the ygnacio valley team is consisted of key players.we dont look to one 1 player to make a play.the whole team makes plays.we dont rely on luck.we rely on skill.we give effort 120%.what team can play without effort?and who are you to call YV a bunch of blue collar workers?no one.your basically saying a bunch of mexican and african americans cant beat a team of full blooded white boys?please.like seemslike said.check yourself your prejudice is showing.say what you really wanna say.
seemslike-im also not surprised.
October 31st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
MINUTEMEN MOM.OMG HAHAHA UR MAKIN LAUGH.
JUST CAUSE THEY GOT RICKY LOYD AND ALL DER RECEIVERS THAT DOESNT MATTER,THAT JUST MAKES CONCORD A 1 DIMENTIONAL OFFENSE,WE STOP THAT AND THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE RUN.I DONT KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS BUT YV GOTS THE NUMBER 1 DEFFENSE IN THE LEAGUE.AND IN THE OTHER HAND U GOT YV WHO OFFENSE IS WELL BALANCED WIT THE RUN AND THE PASS U STOP THE PASS WE GO TO THE RUN,U STOP THE RUN WE GO TO THE PASS.OBVIOUSLY YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL.IM A YV FAN AND I CANT WAIT TO SHUT ALL YOU DOUBTERS MOUTH’S UP.
ITS GONNA BE A VERY PHYSICAL GAME THIS SATURDAY AT YV WITH THE LEAGUE TITLE ON THE LINE,MIGHT BE A CLOSE GAME,OR JUST 1 TEAM MAY TAKE OVER THE WHOLE GAME MY PREDICTION
YV 28,CONCORD 17
October 31st, 2009 at 6:00 pm
minutemen mom u make me sick,who do you think you are calling my brothas “a bunch of blue collar workers”??
i might not play on this years team,but damn near im hella close with the team.u dumb prejudice ladie.the team is a mixture of hispanics,whited,and afrina americans,but we all love each other were all one team that leave it out on the field till the last whistle blows.
my prediciton
yv 28
concord 17
November 1st, 2009 at 6:01 pm
ayyyyy yo u mom u better watch urself on sat
November 1st, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I hate the fact that this so called “mom” is calling the ygnacio valley squad Blue collar workers! That’s just ignorant of you to say. So you’re basically saying that yv is going to fall short to the minutemen this saturday because they have a bunch of hispanics, African Americans, and caucasion kids??? Sounds to me that your saying that hispanics aren’t good at football only soccer, African Americans aren’t good at football only basketball? I think this kids are a highly successfull team because of 3 things;
1) The great coaching staff of the warriors
*and the most important things*
2) The Teamwork & how discipline they are
3) They put 120% of blood and sweat they leave on the field after a victory.
Most of the yv football program had to adjust to the new offensive plays that Chris Turner was teaching them.
*Ygnacio Valley High is going to demolish the minutemen with their run & pass balance. They have the #1 Defense in the Dval. My predictions are:
Ygnacio Valley High School: 2009-2010 Dval Champs
I think if they keep this pase that they’re playing on they are going to be very succesfull in the playoffs wich could lead to a future to the Ncs Championship.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
yv – reread minutemoms post. you’re showing your ignorance.From a blue collar worker
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:15 am
bet minutemanmom is picas mama haha wow reason is because she was posting stuff on contracodtatimes.com calm your self old bat hehehe all i know is that it is going to be a good game between two schools with the same record over all they are both 7-1 concord #1 of and ygnacio # 1 de its goign to be a good game!!
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:34 am
Hey guys take Minutemanmoms comments as a compliment, after all the World Champion Pittsburgh Steelers are a “BLUE COLLAR” team playing in a blue collar town. The first team to win more championships than any other team in the NFL.
Blue Collar teams know what it’s like to actually work for what they get as opposed to getting things the easy way by playing door mats like De Anza, Skyline and Jefferson and then say look at us, look at how great we are because we can beat up on weaker teams yet not be able to handle the pressure of playing a real team like San Ramon Valley who jumped all over you and then took their foot off your neck giving you a glimmer of hope before slamming the door in your face.
I hope you and your elite athletes don’t kill yourselves if they happen to loose the biggest game they will probably ever play in their lives because they have their noses up in the air like you Minutemanmom and show no respect for a hard working, good football team like YV.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 am
wow u guys are taking what she said out of context. she is saying you guys are a hard working, not afraid to get dirty, grind it out kind of team. she is then saying that concord has too many skilled athletes for yv. yes she could have chosen her words more carefully but nowhere does she bring race into it.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:08 pm
concord isn’t the only team with skilled WRs.
after these 8 games Yv’s WR’s Willie Owens and Grant Jones have been a major factor to the warriors 7-1 record and another key to the warriors success has been their Jr. QB Adam neshiem.
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
simmer down, guys! Footballsmart we can agree on one thing: This is the BIGGEST game YV and Concord will be in. It’s for all the marbles. This is why Concord WINS! Yes, YV has two decent receivers, but concord has 4 that are the cream of the crop , that means that their (yv)defense must be able to account for each one, which gives a lot of options for Mr. Lloyd, and in turn creates many opportunities for Mr. Pica. Believe that Concord’s Offense is the biggest threat, YV will face this entire year, including the playoffs! YV, as good as their D may be, has not faced a team with similar threats.
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Throw Ricky! THROW!
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Just Wondering…
Why are most players in the NBA Black?
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 pm
oh whats this?????
steven porschet with the interception from the overly inflated stats of ricky lloyd!!!!woooow.we can more than acoount for the 4 “cream of the crop” recivers.and please “mr pica” only has like 70 yards all season.and we may not have faced a team with similar threats.but concord has not faced a team who threatens the recivers.the closeness of the srv game are pretty much based on sketchy calls and bullcrap plays.and remember there are 11 players on the field at once.we dont have the best defense in the league for nothing.our numbers are good even against oakland tech.a team that im sure would “take less than a minute to score” on concord.hightower may have speed.but theres no use having speed if theres no where to run.hope to see you at the YV game “mom”
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I think Ricky Lloyd is overrated.
Ygnacio valleys safety Alex Ortega is going be Lloyd’s worst nightmare as he was for Claytons Qb. He had 3 picks in that game. This kid is an outstanding player he averages 2 picks a game. Hope Lloyd throws the ball carefully
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
minutemanmom is so dumb and cocky you see when you talk on here you make people hate concord….. so shut the ffff up with picas little week cock butt i hope he gets ripped so bad he going to want to cry….. talk is so cheap we will just wait and see who comes to the top with the win
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
concord high has cream of the crop wr’s wow i didnt now that, who has heard of them, if they that good who they getting recruited by
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:33 pm
she makes Lloyd, Galindo, Childs, and the other recievers seem too overrated.
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 pm
I haven’t seen the Cream of the Crop listings for this year, but I highly doubt they put on 4 receivers from one team. That is really watering down the honor, to say the least. Last year, there were only 25 players total in the Cream of the Crop for the entire East Bay + San Mateo:
http://www.bayareanewsgroup.com/multimedia/iba/2009/flash/cream_2009/index.html
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 pm
I’m sorry, not 25 players total, just 20. No way 4 of them are receivers for Concord, unless they went ahead and picked 150 this year instead of 20.
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:59 pm
The QB is highly overrated. He just got great acc, hightower is a good player, but he really can’t cover as a db/ don’t belive me go on comcast and look
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:59 am
Man, isn’t it fun to be able to talk smack on the internet when we’re all anonymous! It really does put a smile on my face
Here’s how I see it:
Lloyd is a pretty good QB. He has great stats because he has excellent receivers. I don’t for a minute think that the success of Concord’s offense is due to Lloyd. That’s not a slam, that’s the way I see it. He is “blue collar” in that he delivers the ball to the correct general area, and the receivers do all of the heavy lifting. Next year, as a stronger and smarter senior, he will likely have more to add as a QB. This year, he chucks it and they get it. He doesn’t scramble well or run much, he hasn’t had to. It’s a beautiful thing to have excellent receivers at the other end of your throws.
The Concord receivers are successful largely because of their size. 6’4″ and 6’5″ is pretty unusual in HS. They obviously use it to their advantage very well, in addition to being good technically. The DB’s in HS are usually under 6′, add the tall guy’s reach to that height and it is tough for a smaller DB to compete on every single play.
I suppose Hightower is a decent RB, although he hasn’t shown us much. He is not in the top 6 in rushing. He has been recruited for his defensive play and statistically Concord is not exceptional on defense. (as of the 10/27 stats, YV-MT-CO are within 38 yards of each other on total defense, a virtual tie) I’ve not seen or heard a lot about Hightower this year, so my guess is that he is a fine player but not making a huge impact. There isn’t another name I know of at Concord that carries the ball, so I can’t comment further on rushing, it is obviously not their strong point.
Concord leads the league in total offense, totally due to their lopsided offensive attack towards passing (before you blow a gasket, all I said was lopsided, nothing more). Where Concord has a spread of 1029 yards between their rushing (820) and passing game (1849), the rest of the league is lopsided in the inverse, FAR more running than passing. Of all 5 schools with over 2000 total yards, YV has the closest spread of rushing (1481) to passing (817), a difference of only 604 yards.
Now let’s turn to YV:
YV also has a junior QB. He is rated #2 in the league behind Lloyd. His receivers are both 6’3″, and have solid talent. Nesheim also has the luxury of chucking the ball up and odds are his receivers will come down with the ball. But, Nesheim is FAST and can easily tuck the ball and run around the corner and score himself, as he did twice against CV. Statistically, Nesheim throws fewer INT’s per attempt than Lloyd.
For receiving, YV has Owens ranked #3 in the league as of 10/27, but he could possibly move up to #2 after a 100 yard CV game. I would guess that Jones is just off the list at #6.
In regard to the running game, YV has 2 of the top 5 rushers in the league in Wood and Porschet. These two backs have complimentary styles in that they run completely differently. Concord has nobody in the top 5 in rushing.
The stats I quoted above show that YV has a balanced attack, keeping defenses off guard with the run and the pass. Concord is so heavily pass oriented it is easier for the YV DB’s to cheat pass and rely on their strong D-line against a weaker O-line to stop the run.
I don’t know if these stats are kept anywhere, but I’m certain YV would be at or near the top in interceptions. Largely due to the 5 INT night at CV last week, in addition to an INT or two in almost every other game.
Both teams:
DEFENSE
Statistically, another virtual tie. Both teams have had about the equal success this year stopping the run and stopping the pass. YV has a slight edge, but it is of no consequence. Interestingly, CO has not met the likes of Wood and Porschet all year and YV has not met the likes of Galindo and Childs all year. Given the choice here, my opinion is that it is MUCH easier to stop the pass than it is to stop the run, especially with a QB that isn’t mobile. Too many things have to go just right timingwise to complete a pass. As I said before, when you pass 3 things can happen, 2 of which are not good.
OFFENSE
With running, the ball is safer and harder to stop over the length of a game, and with Porschet and Wood sharing the load there are always fresh legs on the field. D-lines exhaust quickly with 260# Wood pounding them repeatedly. Galindo and Childs will be a challenge, but they haven’t faced a quality defense this year. CV was probably their toughest opponent and Concord easily destroyed them. The Concord receivers and O-line haven’t been quality tested to date. On the other side of the coin, YV’s DB’s haven’t had to deal with receivers of this size, it too will be a new experience and could go very badly very quickly. I look for Concord to go bombs away from the very beginning, trying to establish a lead and get YV on their heels early.
This is nothing new, we all know that on offense, Concord lives and dies by the pass, where YV can live with the run or live with the pass. If YV can bump and press the Concord receivers, blow the O-line and mess up timing and hurry Lloyd, I think it is game over for Concord. Concord is too one-dimensional this year.
There, I did it, what looks to me like a smack-free post.
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:17 pm
lol
im not gonna lie seemslike
ima warrior fan to the death.and i have
to say…i CANNOT disagree with ur post AT ALL.
it makes me think deeper into the game.
good stuff man.good stuff.
smackfree post for sure
November 4th, 2009 at 8:55 am
If San Lorenzo does not get in the DII playoffs, it would be a shame. For years San Lorenzo has been the middle of the pack team in the HAAL, this year is huge for them and it justifies the hard work the kids and the coaching staff have done so far.
The San Lorenzo Rebels deserve respect this year, especially with the second ranked defense in the HAAL and a running game that can be very dangerous on any given Friday.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Minutemanmom I will disagree with you that the YV – Concord game is the biggest game that YV will be in simply because YV’s goal is to win the NCS Division II title. Beating you guys would be great, but that’s just one goal, not the ultimate goal for YV.
It may be the biggest game Concord will be in since you guys aren’t used to winning much anyway and it explains why all you Concord fans are so giddy and drunk off your recent success since they realigned the leagues in order for you and Clayton Valley to be competitive in the first place.
If you check both teams history in football (Calpreps.com), YV is used to going to the playoffs EVERY year for the past 10 years and so this crap about “This is why Concord WINS!” just because they’re playing for the DVAL title is just pure hogwash.
You better hope Concord wins, but please calm yourself down if you think this game is a lock for your boys. I don’t want to read in the paper that you all jumped off the Golden Gate if you loose because you all are so over confident about this game and your skilled players.
I can also understand why you all would also think you’re all that too when you play teams like De Anza (what are they 0 and 8? and have only scored 24 points in 8 games while their defense has given up a staggering 397 points so far), Jefferson and Skyline. Must feel nice to put yourselves on a pedestal by bullying weak teams. Easy to keep your starters in and pad your stats after the other team has pretty much given up. Congratulations!!!! You guys are awesome, YV should be lucky to even breath the same air as you guys.
Call me back and tell me your guys are the cream of the crop when you can beat San Ramon Valley on a regular, Pittsburg, De LaSalle, or even Oakland Tech for that matter. Play some schools that know how to play football and would probably smack you guys around before you come on here talking all this trash.
Also let me save you the trouble of doing your own research by going to Calpreps .com and seeing how the greatest show on turf is all smoke and mirrors.
Prior to realignment into the current DVAL…
Concord was:
2001 = 0-10
2002 = 1-9
2003 = 1-9
2004 = 1-9
2005 = 4-6
2006 = 5-6
2007 = 3-7
Last year… first year in DVAL 7-3-1 made the playoffs
No longer had to play Las Lomas, Campolindo,Miramonte and Alhambra. All teams that smacked you around every year.
YV prior to being put in the DVAL…
2001 = 8-4 made playoffs
2002 = 4-7
2003 = 4-6
2004 = 5-6 made playoffs
2005 = 10-3 NCS 2A Champs
2006 = 5-7 made playoffs
2007 = 7-5 made playoffs
Last year… 8-4 and made the playoffs.
Prior to realignment YV had to play Pittsburg, Deer Valley and De LaSalle EVERY year and still managed to be more competitive than Concord could ever hope to be.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:51 am
The only thing Seemslike left out and I guess this was just to be nice and not give Concord fans too much truth was the fact that most of their numbers are from playing teams who let their WRs have free run off the line and get NO pressure whatsoever on the QB. If you all have the chance to watch the game Concord played against San Ramon Valley you will see that they we pretty much the only team not afraid to get up in their WRs face and press them. Llyod threw three or four INTs in that game including one that was returned for a TD and found themselves down 21-0. The ONLY reason Concord got back in the game was they got a gift of two bogus PIs which pretty much put them on the goalline and then SRV for some reason stopped being aggressive on defense and starting playing the same zone defense everyone else played on them.
But when it mattered most SRV’s defense forced a fumble and sealed the win.
As I stated in my earlier post. If Concord were to play even two common opponents that YV played this year they would certainly not have just one loss.
Minutemanmom you guys outta send De Anza, Jefferson and Skyline Christmas gifts this year as a thank you for laying down like rugs when you played them. They helped make you guys like better than you really are.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Minutemanmom, my last bit of advice to you is to stay off the blog because some of these players read your comments and you’re not helping your boys out by fueling the fire and giving other teams that still have to play Concord incentive knock you all back into reality.
Enjoy your success but show some humility because Concord High School Football as a whole has not really been all that successful and no one likes it when people brag about short lived success. De LaSalle is one of the most successful football programs on any level (which includes college and the pros) and you don’t see their fans coming on here talking ANY trash. They don’t have to because their play on the filed and their program speaks for itself.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Well I hate to dissapoint all you YV fans who think I’m Minutemanmom, I’m “Mom who knows” and i, like few on here have never had a problem posting my name. I have never berated a player or team, on the boards. I have not responded to the posts until now because i had surgery this week. Most of the Ygnacio Valley Boys who know me know that is not my style! This will be a great game and I for one look forward to the challenge we will face! As for warrior, keep hiding behnind a screen name, you are very brave. The braveness in the warrior name does not belong to you it belongs to the football players on the field, Anyone who wished harm on an opponent is not a true athlete! Mrs. Pica
November 5th, 2009 at 10:31 am
“warrior Says:
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
minutemanmom is so dumb and cocky you see when you talk on here you make people hate concord….. so shut the ffff up with picas little week cock butt i hope he gets ripped so bad he going to want to cry….. talk is so cheap we will just wait and see who comes to the top with the win”
There are a couple of players in the DVAL that come to mind who you DO NOT want to piss off before you play them and one of those is Alec Pica. If you’re trying to intimidate him, it won’t work. If you don’t want to motivate him any more than he is, you might want to refrain from bashing his mother. Just my 2 cents = )
November 5th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
I think Mrs. Pica established that Minutemanmom is not her.
Although I agree that Minutemanmom has written some dumb things, I don’t agree with “Warrior’s” type of response. It is childish and unnecessary.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
all the picas were heka good at football,especially tito pica at de la salle he was a BEAST!!!
but other then dat just 2 more days for the big showdown at yv.from what i heard,i heard yv gots a little something up their sleeves thats gonna suprise all of you guys at the game on saturday.thats what i heard,i didnt get no other information i heard it from a friend that plays on the yv jv team.my prediction
yv,28
concord,17
November 6th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Game time tomorow baby!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
if ms pica is not minutemenmom then who is!!! why hasent she talked about her great minutemen team no more ??? ill tell you why because she wrote as mrs p tryin to play it off lol
November 7th, 2009 at 12:16 am
everyone knows Ms Pica is a little whacked out in the head
November 7th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
MINUTEMEN MOM YOU DONT KNOW HOW BAD I WANNA RUB THIS IN YOUR FACE.WHAT HAPPENED TO CONCORD TODAY??PLEASE TELL ME YOU WERE AT THE GAME?CAUSE TODAY WE SHUT ALL YOU DOUBTER’S MOUTH’S UP..YV 36,CONCORD 28.
THE YV D PICKED OFF LLOYD 3 TIMES,ALMOST TAKING ONE BACK TO THE HOUSE.CONCORD WASNT STOPING THE RUNNING DUO OF PATRONE AND PORSCHET.
WE DIDNT LET CONCORD PASS ALL OVER US,IN FACT IF IM CORRECT DIDNT GALINDO FUMBLE ON A PLAY WHERE HE MADE THE CATCH,AND GOT HIT AND FUMBLED HAHA??
YV WARRIORS DVAL CHAMPS BABY HOOOOOOORRRAAAHHH!!!!!!
P.S PLEASE DONT COME WITH NO LAME EXCUSES TO WHY THEY LOST.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Sound and deserving Win for Ygnacio Valley over a Very Good Concord team.
YV congratulations, you earned it.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
no need for the attacks on ms. pica. be happy with the win show some class. attacking a players mom on the board shouldn’t happen.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
YV Waterboy, I need to correct you… YV picked off Lloyd four times. One got negated by the bogus PI call because the refs aren’t used to seeing good defensive plays like the one made to get the INT. It had to be PI in their eyes because they’re not used to seeing Concord’s WRs get smacked in the mouth like they were getting smacked.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Renegade where were you to put Ms. Pica in her place when she was talking smack (read the comments below)?
She gets what she deserves. You shouldn’t dish out what you can’t take back.
Every comment WAS CLASSLESS. You’re such a hypocrite.
Minutemanmom Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 10:03 am
CONCORD is the best team, they have really talented wide receivers, and a great QB, and RB in F.hightower.
Ricky has great accuracy with his throws, but he doesn’t even need it with, the talented receivers who can catch in traffic. THROW RICky THROW!
Minutemanmom Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 10:12 am
Concord will win the DVAL Championship next week!! Ygnacio’s Team are like a team of blue-collar workers, that can roll up their sleeves and go to work, relying on nothing but their effort, on the other hand Concord is a team of elite, athletic, skill players, that are just too much for some regular joe’schmoes!
Effort will not be enough to stop the Minuteman, because it only takes a minute for them to score!!
Minutemanmom Says:
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
simmer down, guys! Footballsmart we can agree on one thing: This is the BIGGEST game YV and Concord will be in. It’s for all the marbles. This is why Concord WINS! Yes, YV has two decent receivers, but concord has 4 that are the cream of the crop , that means that their (yv)defense must be able to account for each one, which gives a lot of options for Mr. Lloyd, and in turn creates many opportunities for Mr. Pica. Believe that Concord’s Offense is the biggest threat, YV will face this entire year, including the playoffs! YV, as good as their D may be, has not faced a team with similar threats.
Minutemanmom Says:
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Throw Ricky! THROW!
November 7th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Eh I thought it was established that wasn’t Mrs. Pica as she always posts under the name Mrs. P and Mom Who Knows and has said so herself if you would refer to comment number 77. You know there is probably more then one mom who has a son on the Concord football team. I don’t think a mom would call her son Mr. Pica what do you think?
November 8th, 2009 at 12:06 am
and if you look at comment number 58 you will see what I thought about her blue collar comment which is the only one that even reaches the border for classless. you enjoy starting things out of nothing because none of those other comments are classless at all she just says why she thinks they will win and talks about the athletes in their team. If you would like to take a look at some of your fellow warrior posters responses you will see the definition of classless.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:26 am
The fact that Mrs P or mom who knows already admits to posting under TWO different names doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a third.
Anyway, who cares? Those responses Minutmenmom got (WHO EVER SHE IS) would never have happened had she not made the comments she made to start the whole thing up in the first place.
So whether or not the comments of those Warrior posters were classless is not the point. When you talk trash like that person did by putting yourself up above another with words like “cream of the crop” and “elite” and then say that the other side does not stand a chance because they are just “joe schmoe” expect to get smacked back to earth whether done classless or classy.
You must be dating her since you’re so interested in coming to her defense. And what may seem like nothing to you means what? Who appointed you the authority on how people should and should not take things that affect them anyway Renegade?
November 8th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Lloyd is a product of there offense and throwing 35 to 40 times a game, he is a average high school QB, take last years Clayton QB and put him in Concords offense and numbers would have been crazy good, Lloyd is not very accurate and throws to a general area letting his receivers make plays on the ball instead of back shoulder etc
Concord is not a great team just a good team with good coaching, Concord has played only 2 decent teams this year and is 0-2 in those games.
YV fans at the beginning of the year criticized the new coach for not featuring Patrone as in the past but are finding out football is and always will be a TEAM sport and more then one player
The DVAL in general is considered a weak league and then include the Non League schedule of DVAL teams and there schedule becomes a joke, Clayton Valley could be 1 & 8 if there had played a real non league schedule, Concord could be 3 & 7 if it played a real non league schedule and YV 6 & 4, ya I know Concord played San Ramon & YV played Hayward so out of the 3 teams 15 non league games only 2 where against good teams and the other 13 where joke games
November 8th, 2009 at 9:05 am
High N Tight… you could pretty much say that most leagues are weak in Northern California or at least in the NCS so downing each DVAL teams non-league schedule without going into the other teams schedules from the other leagues is not really fair or saying much. You have weak teams ALL over the place and unfortunately they are playing each other.
In the ACCAL you have…
Richmond
Hercules
De Anza
These schools will always have struggling programs but someone ha to play them every year right?
I don’t think any team in the BFAL would be able to compete with a D2 school or higher but still, someone has to them.
Same to be said about the BSAL with exception of Encinal RIGHT now. The rest of those teams couldn’t compete against D2 and D1 schools but someone has to play them.
Antioch, Freedom and Liberty are the weakest of the BVAL but probably can handle even the best of the teams in the two leagues above.
Alhambra is really the only good team in the DFAL. The rest only play other weak teams in the other leagues and then beat each other up in league.
Same could be said of every team except YV in the DVAL since they used to play in the same league with DLS, Pittsburg and Deer Valley every year and have a history of being competitive before being moved into this league with Concord, Clayton Valley, College Park, Northgate and Mt. Diablo who were ALL doormats and doorstops for years up until last year in their first year in the DVAL.
The EBAL is probably the most competitive league of all and many of those schools won’t even schedule schools from the other leagues. Look at each of their non-league schedules and you might see ONE team on the bottom teams in that leagues schedule from the above mentioned leagues.
You were spot on though in what you said about everything else. But there really are no great leagues throughout the entire Bay Area.
So downing the DVAL and everyone’s non-league schedule is way too easy to do without looking at the entire landscape of HS football in this area.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Footballsmart: I agree with you and was just in general pointing out that the DVAL teams need to schedule better non league games if they want to get the respect that they crave
Clayton Valley team last year could have played with anybody proving it in the playoffs and NCS Championship but was criticized for playing a weak non league schedule.
Clayton Valley was also in the BVAL along with YV before last year so they played Pitt, Deer Valley & DLS each year (DLS was every other year for CV) so for CV & YV moving to the DVAL was a step down for both programs but if they would have scheduled better non league games (like keeping Pitt or Derr Valley on Schedule but now as non league games) it would not have been such a drop off.
The Reason EBAL (yes most competitive league) does not schedule teams from leagues like DVAL is because they only have 3 non league games (DVAL has 5 non league games) and will usually try to schedule quality teams for there 3 non league games, take a look at cal preps
Non League games are where you can get battle tested and a loss is not devastating since its not a league game !!!
November 8th, 2009 at 10:38 am
WOW, it’s weird that no one seems to have much of anything to say now….
Minutemen, Minutmanmom, Pink Socks and the rest… WHERE the hell are you?
Concord fans please come down off the ledge. Don’t do a header into the bay, it’ll be ok.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Nothing but crickets and tumbleweeds in here…
CO/YV was certainly a great way to spend a Saturday, it was a fun game to watch. Having fun watching a YV game is a new thing for YV fans, RIP–double wing.
What does this win do for YV in the playoffs?
November 8th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
i agree with you footballsmart,lol.
where are they?? probly out crying to their sons saying why didnt they win that game.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
DO YOU WANNA SEE HOW CONCORD GOT WHOOPED??
THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE ON *YGNACIOVALLEYTV.COM*
November 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Concord looks to have a successful program this year. YV has made a statement. Did YV loose to Tech?
November 8th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I wouldn’t say 36 30 is getting whooped but a loss is a loss.
I think concord came into this game overconfident.
Lloyd was exposed to what he cannot do, throw outside of the pocket. He has great pocket presence but when he is forced to roll out of the pocket he has problems which forces him to throw interceptions. example: San roman and YV.
I’m not sure whether it had to do with 2 of Concords best linemen were hurt or if YV’s d line is that good. I think it was a mix of the 2.
Either way concord played a very bad game, Starnes dropped about 5 passes. Galindo had a couple drops also.
Pica actually had a good game. But really any game where he doesn’t fumble is good for him. He had one really good run where he cut back across the field. But sometimes I think he should run like his brothers and run more north and south.
But all in all I think we both have great teams. I’m interested to see where the 2 teams are seeded in NCS play.
I think this loss will have a positive affect on Concord. Maybe this will game will show them they aren’t unstoppable.
If these sound like I’m just giving excuses I really believe YV is great team. A great running back duo and an amazing safety.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
hey jimmy what happened to this weeks box scores.
hey concord fans what was the stats for those ” cream of the crop ” wide outs one of yall was talking bout 36-30 sounds like a good good though
November 8th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
I can agree with one thing Minuteman, some of the Concord players pranced and preened around the field before gametime like they were visiting royalty. I’ve never seen so many varsity players walking around in little groups during the JV game, sauntering back and forth around the end zone on the field many times during the JV game in their sandals, leisurely taking everything in. I thought it showed disrespect to both JV squads doing battle on the field. It’s a tough age to try to teach some humility (as if Hamilton has that lesson ANYWHERE in his textbooks, it’s certainly not in his character).
In my experience, when the team bus arrives before varsity gametime, there is work to be done. It should be a business trip. These guys showed up WAY too early and just sort of milled around. I doubt they do that on a Friday night, I don’t know why they did it on a Saturday morning… You typically won’t even see a varsity player on the field at an away game until early outs, all taped up, gear on, ready to hit.
I also agree that this loss will likely serve them well into the future. They know they’ll have to step up their game now in the playoffs and take nobody for granted. If there is a silver lining to losing the DVAL title, it might be that they go deeper into the playoffs.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
MINUTEMEN,PLEASE NO EXCUSES TALKINGA BOUT 2 OF CONCORD’S LINEMEN WERE OUT,FOR THAT BEING THE REASON THEY LOST.
JUST ADMIT THAT YV WAS THE BETTER TEAM,AND YOULL FEEL MUCH BETTER TRUST ME LOL.
OVERATED CONCORD GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED.PLUS ONE REASON WHY GALINDO DROPPED COUPLE OF PASSES WAS CAUSE OF THAT ONE CATCH HE MADE,THEY SMACKED EM AND HE FUMBLED.SO HE WAS SMART FOR THAT,HE WASNT TRYING TO GET SMAKED AGAIN HAHA.
PATRONE AND STEVEN WERE TOO MUCH FOR CONCORDS D.
I JUST LIKE HOW PEOPLE TRY TO COME UP WITH EXCUSES AFTER THEIR TEAM HAS LOST.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Typical response from from a sore loser like YoMama… “did YV loose to Tech?”
Who the hell cares? ALL that matters is that that successful program of Concord’s lost to YV. A league title at that… a game with far more meaning than a non-league mid-season lost to a team that also has more losses than YV… YoMama please shut up!
YoMama Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Concord looks to have a successful program this year. YV has made a statement. Did YV loose to Tech?
MINUTEMEN, YOU’RE AT LEAST BRAVE ENOUGH TO COME ON NOW. I GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR THAT. BUT IF YOU WERE ACTUALLY AT THE GAME THE SCORE WAS NO WHERE NEAR INDICATIVE OF HOW THE GAME ACTUALLY WENT. CONCORD GOT THEIR LAST TD BECAUSE YV’S PLAYERS LOST IT FOR A MINUTE AND GOT A 30 YARD PENALTY THAT BASICALLY PUT THEM IN SCORING POSITION.
HOW MUCH OF THOSE 30 POINTS DID CONCORD ACTUALLY EARN? THE ZEBRAS DID ALL THEY COULD TO KEEP YOUR BOYS IN THE GAME AND IT STILL DID WORKOUT FOR YOU. REMEMBER THE PICK THAT GOT TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE OF A BOGUS PI CALL? GAME WOULD HAVE BASICALLY BEEN OVER AT THAT POINT BUT YV EVEN OVERCAME THAT CRAP AND RAN THE BALL RIGHT DOWN YOUR THROATS AFTER THAT ONE TOO.
JUST ADMIT THAT CONCORD GOT WHOOPED AND STOP USING “THE SCORE” AS AN INDICATION OF HOW THE GAME ACTUALLY WENT…
ANYONE THAT ACTUALLY WAS AT THE GAME WILL TELL YOU CONCORD GET OUT HIT, OUT PLAYED AND OUT COACHED.
2 OF CONCORD BEST LINEMEN WERE HURT… BOO FREAKIN WHO!!!
LOSERS MAKE EXCUSES AND I GUESS IT’S EASIER TO MAKE EXCUSES THAN ADMIT YV IS A GOOD TEAM AND BETTER THAN CONCORD.
ALL THE TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT THEIR DEFENSE WAS TOO… THAT DEFENSE GAVE UP THE MOST POINTS ANYONE HAS SCORED ON THEM ALL YEAR.
WHAT’S THE EXCUSE FOR THAT? HOW MANY PLAYERS DID YOU LOOSE ON THAT SIDE OF THE BALL?
Minutemen Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I wouldn’t say 36 30 is getting whooped but a loss is a loss.
I think concord came into this game overconfident.
Lloyd was exposed to what he cannot do, throw outside of the pocket. He has great pocket presence but when he is forced to roll out of the pocket he has problems which forces him to throw interceptions. example: San roman and YV.
I’m not sure whether it had to do with 2 of Concords best linemen were hurt or if YV’s d line is that good. I think it was a mix of the 2.
Either way concord played a very bad game, Starnes dropped about 5 passes. Galindo had a couple drops also.
Pica actually had a good game. But really any game where he doesn’t fumble is good for him. He had one really good run where he cut back across the field. But sometimes I think he should run like his brothers and run more north and south.
But all in all I think we both have great teams. I’m interested to see where the 2 teams are seeded in NCS play.
I think this loss will have a positive affect on Concord. Maybe this will game will show them they aren’t unstoppable.
THEY SHOULD HAVE COME INTO THE GAME THINKING THAT… MAYBE THEY WOULDN’T HAVE A TARGET ON THEIR BACK THEN. ALL THAT SWAGGER AND BS WITH THROWING DOWN A SLEDGE HAMMER ON ANOTHER TEAMS HOME FILED DOESN’T HELP EITHER. I WAS AT THE CV GAME TOO. I NOTICED THEY DIDN’T PULL THAT CRAP AT YV. THE GAME PROBABLY WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN PLAYED BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN RUNNING FOR THE BUS.
If these sound like I’m just giving excuses I really believe YV is great team. A great running back duo and an amazing safety.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
a win is a win, their was this one ref that favored concord alot, making p.i calls when it wasnt..okay y.v lost to tech but concord lost to yv so the tech game wouldnt matter as much would it. and concord came like at 1030 when the game started at 130 they where walking around yv like if they owned it. no respect what so ever. ill tell you one thing i know for a fact that concord where so cacky and cackyness kills a team no matter how good they are. they where also talking so much smack to yv freshman team when they played at ch… i hope yv doesnt get cacky when they play cp next friday at 330
November 8th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
I think you mean to say COCKY instead of CACKY right?
Don’t worry, YV has no reason to be COCKY. YV is a school used to winning and being competitive on a consistent basis. That’s the difference between YV and Concord. YV teams don’t loose their freakin minds and go around acting like they’re ALL that after tasting a little bit of success after years of being a doormat
November 8th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Bhsfan Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
hey jimmy what happened to this weeks box scores.
hey concord fans what was the stats for those ” cream of the crop ” wide outs one of yall was talking bout 36-30 sounds like a good good though
Here’s what those cream of the crop WRs did…
Buford 6 for 90 yards
Galindo 5 for 58 yards. A 22yd TD and a 2 yd TD pass after YV was penalized 30 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct for too much celebrating after going up by 2 scores. They subsequently had to kick off on the 10 or 20 yard line and put Concord in position to score a late TD.
Childs had 3 for 41, Starnes 2 for 21 and Hightower 2 for -2 yards
November 8th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Minutemanmom Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 10:03 am
CONCORD is the best team, they have really talented wide receivers, and a great QB, and RB in F.hightower.
Ricky has great accuracy with his throws, but he doesn’t even need it with, the talented receivers who can catch in traffic. THROW RICky THROW!
okay two of their lineman where injured but like minutemanmom say (they have really talented wide receivers, and a great QB, and RB in F.hightower.
Ricky has great accuracy with his throws, but he doesn’t even need it with, the talented receivers who can catch in traffic. THROW RICky THROW!) never mention the o line so it didnt matter because they do have a great QB with great accuracy witch he throw 5 inters and have talented receivers who cant i mean can catch in traffic lol not.. throw ricky throw lol to yv’s d lol… footballsmart lets call 911 because i think minutemanmom jumped off the golden bay bridge send a search party for her and maybe theyll find some pinksocks lol where did he go????
November 8th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
FOOTBALL SMART,DAT COMMENT U LEFT
Typical response from from a sore loser like YoMama… “did YV loose to Tech?”
Who the hell cares? ALL that matters is that that successful program of Concord’s lost to YV. A league title at that… a game with far more meaning than a non-league mid-season lost to a team that also has more losses than YV… YoMama please shut up!
YoMama Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Concord looks to have a successful program this year. YV has made a statement. Did YV loose to Tech?
MINUTEMEN, YOU’RE AT LEAST BRAVE ENOUGH TO COME ON NOW. I GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR THAT. BUT IF YOU WERE ACTUALLY AT THE GAME THE SCORE WAS NO WHERE NEAR INDICATIVE OF HOW THE GAME ACTUALLY WENT. CONCORD GOT THEIR LAST TD BECAUSE YV’S PLAYERS LOST IT FOR A MINUTE AND GOT A 30 YARD PENALTY THAT BASICALLY PUT THEM IN SCORING POSITION.
HOW MUCH OF THOSE 30 POINTS DID CONCORD ACTUALLY EARN? THE ZEBRAS DID ALL THEY COULD TO KEEP YOUR BOYS IN THE GAME AND IT STILL DID WORKOUT FOR YOU. REMEMBER THE PICK THAT GOT TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE OF A BOGUS PI CALL? GAME WOULD HAVE BASICALLY BEEN OVER AT THAT POINT BUT YV EVEN OVERCAME THAT CRAP AND RAN THE BALL RIGHT DOWN YOUR THROATS AFTER THAT ONE TOO.
JUST ADMIT THAT CONCORD GOT WHOOPED AND STOP USING “THE SCORE” AS AN INDICATION OF HOW THE GAME ACTUALLY WENT…
ANYONE THAT ACTUALLY WAS AT THE GAME WILL TELL YOU CONCORD GET OUT HIT, OUT PLAYED AND OUT COACHED.
2 OF CONCORD BEST LINEMEN WERE HURT… BOO FREAKIN WHO!!!
LOSERS MAKE EXCUSES AND I GUESS IT’S EASIER TO MAKE EXCUSES THAN ADMIT YV IS A GOOD TEAM AND BETTER THAN CONCORD.
ALL THE TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT THEIR DEFENSE WAS TOO… THAT DEFENSE GAVE UP THE MOST POINTS ANYONE HAS SCORED ON THEM ALL YEAR.
WHAT’S THE EXCUSE FOR THAT? HOW MANY PLAYERS DID YOU LOOSE ON THAT SIDE OF THE BALL?
Minutemen Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I wouldn’t say 36 30 is getting whooped but a loss is a loss.
I think concord came into this game overconfident.
Lloyd was exposed to what he cannot do, throw outside of the pocket. He has great pocket presence but when he is forced to roll out of the pocket he has problems which forces him to throw interceptions. example: San roman and YV.
I’m not sure whether it had to do with 2 of Concords best linemen were hurt or if YV’s d line is that good. I think it was a mix of the 2.
Either way concord played a very bad game, Starnes dropped about 5 passes. Galindo had a couple drops also.
Pica actually had a good game. But really any game where he doesn’t fumble is good for him. He had one really good run where he cut back across the field. But sometimes I think he should run like his brothers and run more north and south.
But all in all I think we both have great teams. I’m interested to see where the 2 teams are seeded in NCS play.
I think this loss will have a positive affect on Concord. Maybe this will game will show them they aren’t unstoppable.
THEY SHOULD HAVE COME INTO THE GAME THINKING THAT… MAYBE THEY WOULDN’T HAVE A TARGET ON THEIR BACK THEN. ALL THAT SWAGGER AND BS WITH THROWING DOWN A SLEDGE HAMMER ON ANOTHER TEAMS HOME FILED DOESN’T HELP EITHER. I WAS AT THE CV GAME TOO. I NOTICED THEY DIDN’T PULL THAT CRAP AT YV. THE GAME PROBABLY WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN PLAYED BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN RUNNING FOR THE BUS.
If these sound like I’m just giving excuses I really believe YV is great team. A great running back duo and an amazing safety.
I REALLY DO AGREE WITH YOU ON EVERYTHING U SAID.