Comments on: NCS playoff breakdown: Division I

By: Wondering

Wondering — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:49:04 +0000

Just a quick note about MV and the running game losing Johnson was tuff but the back ups have played well and the have been running by commitee with Sullas and Wilkerson averaging over 100 yds a game so they haven’t lost that much. I think Rowland is a much bigger loss for Foothill he has length and really nice hands I see Mannion going to his TE more like the DLS game.

By: MoellerMan

MoellerMan — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:10:05 +0000

The top 4 are certainly set. Spots 5 through 13 are extremely messy. Let’s assume no big upsets in the last week – Deer Valley beats Heritage, Amador beats Foothill, DLS beats Cal, Monte Vista over SRV. With only one quality win, over Washington, I cannot see Logan at number 6. Likewise Pittsburg, Heritage and San Leandro have no quality wins. Washington has a quality win early in the season against Cal. All the EBAL teams have both quality wins and losses.
Here is my take, again assuming no upsets this week.
5. Monte Vista
6. Cal
7. Logan
8. SRV
9. Pittsburg
10. Foothill
11. Washington
12. San Leandro
13. Heritage

By: Prep Fan

Prep Fan — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:47:48 +0000

I have to admit it is a tough task to rank these teams. You can’t just say that because one team beat another, they must be ranked ahead of them. That logic is great in the first couple of weeks of the season, but now that most of the games have been played, you have to take into account all the games, and not just head to head with certain teams. Renegades is right that Logan’s loss to Foothill should hurt them, as should Cal’s loss to Washington. But when Cal trounces Foothill last week, it shakes everything up. The good thing is that all of these teams will get a chance to get it done on the field, and whether they were seeded 3rd, 6th, 9th or 11th won’t matter after they have played a couple of games. Whoever is playing the best football at the time will move on.

By: renegades10

renegades10 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:28:26 +0000

yes but don’t forget foothill handed logan it’s worst loss of the season and they beat MV but lost to Cal and also have the loss to granada and srv. So that may hurt logan a little.

By: playofftime

playofftime — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:01:14 +0000

div 1 committee now has a nightmare…i think logan sneaks into the #6 now…behind a just about given, dls, dv, berkeley, av, mv as top 5…logan is 8-3 with one of best records remaining plus has a win over quality team in washington…and two loses vs higher ranked opponents in final seconds…

after that who knows…washington beat cal finishes 7-3…cal finishes prob 5-5 beat srv and foothill but lost to washington…pittsburgh only quality win heritage and 6-4 but 2 good losses vs mv and berkeley…srv prob 6-4 beat foothill but lost to cal…foothill prob 5-5 with win over mv and logan, but losses to srv, cal, and granada a team that won’t even qualify…sl 8-2 but no good wins…heritage 7-3 probably but again no good wins and 2 blowout losses so far wait to see how they play dv…i think everyone has a case for the #7 seed yet could end up with a #12 seed….if they weigh head to head the most washington gets the 7 and cal gets the 8…if they go record sl would get the 7 then washington or heritage…if they go ebal love it could go cal, srv, foothill…who knows…i do think cal has to get ranked ahead of srv and foothill though…and srv ahead of foothill with head to head and better record…washington probably seeded above cal because they beat them and will finish with 2 more wins…but who really knows…

By: Prep Fan

Prep Fan — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:40:42 +0000

Logan and Washington should move more than MV and Cal, whoe were next to each other at #7 & #8 in the East Bay poll and will no doubt switch places. They played a tight game that was tied at 24 going into the 4th quarter before the Mustangs broke it open late. Logan could move past Cal but since they lost to MV, may still get stuck behind them. Washington will fall, but will likely stay ahead of Cal who they beat in week 1. Maybe MV at #6, Logan #7, Washington #8 and Cal #9 in the East Bay rankings.

By: MoellerMan

MoellerMan — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:34:13 +0000

So of the the teams on the bubble, Arroyo and Granada are out due to losses this week. Newark is in. Antioch, College Park and American are still mathematically alive. Antioch and College Park have very tough games this week. American seems to have the best shot to fill that 15th spot.
The teams that would move up or down the list from this weekend’s play are Monte Vista, Cal, Washington and Logan. How do those two games alter the playoff picture?

By: ManO'War

ManO'War — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:23:37 +0000

Yes Ebal1, running game crucial even for passing teams, despite examples like, even though MV knew passes were coming Garret Moore #2 made huge catches- but over the course of the game you need both. Examples, Foothill lost Nick Quon (and others), MV lost Johnson but if both can come back, that will be big boost for those offenses. And, if defenses depleted of guys that play both sides, that means really tough time, like Cal vs. no-Quon, no Zach Buen Foothill defense – like MV without a Wilkerson. Ouch.

By: ebal1

ebal1 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:31:42 +0000

Depth is key. If you’ve got one guy you rely on without a reasonable backup its over. I view Foothill lack of a consistent running game to be a far bigger issue than anything else. I forget the kid that stepped up with 2 HUGE catches on the last drive vs MV #3 I think, but with that kind of effort, Mannion can continue to be effective through the air. If they can’t at least run the ball to throw off the defense, big time trouble.

I do find it interesting that relying on the running game is typically regarded as an problem if you can’t throw. With MV and Foothill it is being proved if you don’t have the ability to pound the ball on occasion a great passing attack can be severely exposed. Two Pac-10 bound QB’s with average running game equals an average season it seems………

By: ManO'War

ManO'War — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:24:24 +0000

Whistle, agreed! And you make the point – the injuries matter. Cal without Reggie Davis, MV without Johnson, Granada without Kearney, list goes on and on. Bet Sweeney comes up with some ideas for the loss of Rowland, though agreed, Rowland should be concensus all-league choice with McGovern. He would have had big games left, and at least with Amador Valley. Hope his helmut-to-helmut he took won’t keep him out of contention for that.