- East Bay Prep Corner
Official NCS Division I bracket
By Kyle Bonagura
Sunday, November 15th, 2009 at 1:18 pm in Uncategorized.
http://cifncs.org/sports/football/files/RESULTS/2009/FB1BRACKET09.pdf
1. De La Salle
2. Deer Valley
3. Amador Valley
4. Monte Vista
5. Berkeley
6. Cal
7. San Ramon Valley
8. Foothill
9. James Logan
10. Pittsburg
11. Washington
12. San Leandro
13. Heritage
14. College Park
15. Newark Memorial
16. American
16 American at 1 De La Salle
8 Foothill at 9 James Logan
13 Heritage at 4 Monte Vista
12 San Leandro at 5 Berkeley
15 Newark Memorial at 2 Deer Valley
10 Pittsburg at 7 San Ramon Valley
14 College Park at 3 Amador Valley
11 Washington at 6 California
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November 15th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Cal and SRV above Foothill and Logan. What a joke.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
That’s obvious head-to-head most major factor, so no taking into account the “good wins” or “bad losses” apparently?
November 15th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
WTF?!? Berkeley ends up with the 5 seed in D-I after losing to Pinole Valley, who get the 13 seed in D-II? Somebody needs to test the urine of some of the people who were in that room. No consistency at ALL!
November 15th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Go Spartans
November 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Nice job on your projections…pretty darn close.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
But by head to head logic, wouldn’t Foothill be above MV and Amador? Crazy.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
HS Football Fan, are you saying they should be lower or higher?
November 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
lol I guess the EBAL factored in after all. This time see how Pittsburg does at SRV. Still give the Pirates the edge but that’ll be a great game.
Man so will San Leandro Berkeley I hope some of these games are Friday/Saturday cause I want to watch them
Give Washington benefit of the doubt that they’ll play another great game with Cal High..
but Foothill will really have to prove they can win at Logan.. no easy task since Monte Vista only did it this year in the 4 or so years they been playing Logan..
Good Luck to all the teams this is what we’ve been waiting for!!
November 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Foothill also lost to both Cal and SRV, so you can only push that head to head business so far.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
EBAL results follow how they did in LEAGUE STANDINGS. thats the right Idea
November 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
so av wouldnt have to play de la or mv till finals?
November 15th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
I’m actually not saying either, but I would have liked to have seen some consistency. If Berkeley is a 5 seed in D-I, then Pinole Valley HAS to be higher than a 13 seed in D-II. If Pinole Valley is a 13 seed in D-II, then Berkeley HAS to be lower than a 5 seed in D-I.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
The issue with playing at Logan is the unique characteristics of their turf. It is a distinct advantage for them.
6 EBAL teams in the top 8. Some will find fault with that…but not me.
The weak link in the top 8 is SRV.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
I am liking this. Cal gets a rematch with Washington. Is in the lower half of the bracket so does not have to play De La Salle second game. It also looks as if four EBAL teams could be in the final four.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Wow! Must have been some real EBAL sucking going on in that room. Cal 6 whs 11. We will smack em at there house again!
November 15th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
When will the game dates and times be posted?
November 15th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Mike, if you follow only league standings, you won’t wanna play any pre-season games against good teams, you want weaker ones so your record will look good. That’s bogus. Cal 5-5, Foothill 6-4 with better wins. Not right, man. MoellerMan correct.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
http://cifncs.org/sports/football/files/RESULTS/2009/FB1BRACKET09.pdf
November 15th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
The dates and times are posted on the NCS website below. CP plays on Friday at Amador.
http://cifncs.org/sports/football/files/RESULTS/2009/FB1BRACKET09.pdf
November 15th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
How is 5-5 Cal who lost to Washington ranked at 6. While 8-3 Logan who beat Washington 28-10, and had near misses vs DV and MV at 9. Ridiculous.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Dates and times are posted at http://cifncs.org/sports/football/files/RESULTS/2009/FB1BRACKET09.pdf
November 15th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Are you saying that Cal High played a weak preseason schedule? Del Oro & Wahington are both quality teams. West of Tracy was a beatdown, but that was their only indiscretion. Its not like Miramonte was good this year. They crushed Foothill 3 weeks ago in a game that wasn’t even close. In fact, West of Tracy put up a better fight against Cal than Foothill did. Had Foothill won that game, then they would probably be seeded 6th.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Point is, you can’t do what committee did and just take league standings. As MotorMouth said, “How is 5-5 Cal who lost to Washington ranked at 6. While 8-3 Logan who beat Washington 28-10, and had near misses vs DV and MV at 9. Ridiculous.”
November 15th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
okay a cal team who lost to washington is in front of them!? and logan!?
there is something seriously wrong with this picture
November 15th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Prep Fan, Cal lost to MV, Foothill beat them. Foothill beat AV, Cal lost to them. Foothill beat Logan, where Cal lost to Washington. Cal’s only good win was against Foothill. (Only other wins were Tracy, SRV, Livermore, and Granada barely 17-14.) Also, SRV beat Foothill, possibly their only good win, also, winning 3 pre-season games, beating only Livermore and Granada in EBAL.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
You could very easily turn the tables on that, MOW, and say: Foothill lost SRV, Cal beat them. Foothill lost to Granada, Cal beat them.
It was going to be a mess 6-12. Everyone is making valid points, but making sense of 6-12 is tough.
Obviously, everyone thinks the team they are associated with should be higher in that 6-12 grouping, that’s just the nature of how all this works out.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
The lower bracket is interesting. If Deer Valley trips up, other than Newark Memorial and College Park, it could be anyone of the remaining teams in the finals against DLS or if they trip up (highly unlikely) perhaps MV (and yes, I am discounting Berkeley – just don’t see it). Regardless, it should be a fun playoff this year!
November 15th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Cal played both AV and MV tough. They were ahead of AV in the 4th quarter until 2 late INTs, and they were tied with MV going into the 4th quarter, both onthe raod. True, they lost both of those games, but they played them both close, and would do so again if they played them again. Foothill did not show up to play against Cal, or they would have gotten a muc higher seed. Cal’s only bad loss was a 2-point loss to Washington with 9 seconds to play, and they’ll get a chance to atone for that one on Saturday night. DLS took Cal apart, but that is just what DLS does.
November 15th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Bottom line, Kyle, put you guys and the coaches back in the room. Nobody knows nuttin’.
November 15th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I’m sure Cal wants another chance at both Washington and Amador Valley, where they blew 4th quarter leads in both games this year. They’ll get that chance Saturday against Washington and if they win that one at AV the following week. I don’t think either Washington or AV is looking forward to those games.
November 15th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
NextLevel, do you really call beating Cal in the final 8 seconds of the game smacking them? The game is sure to be a good one with call wanting revenge for your “smack” that stole their game. With regards to everyone complaining about the rankings, this year (at least in EBAL) was chaotic with the only consistent team being DLS. Cal beat foothill, who beat MV, who beat Cal. Foothill beat Amador, who Cal also lost to.
November 15th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
its funny how that worked out. its like the ebal got just about every matchup they wanted. you notice how none of there fans are saying anything
November 15th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
lot of good matches here. dont think SRV survives either lol
November 15th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
why even play the games anymore…just let the ebal go at it and then position around that…what does a team like sl, logan or washington get out of playing a good team…nothing. washington goes 7-3 plays 2nd hardest non league schedule i NCS and beats the #6 seed…who ironically they have to play now…
yes i agree it is a whole triangle…wash beat cal, cal beat foothill and srv, foothill beat logan, logan beat wash…so it is a triangle then how does logan and wash the only 2 that get the shaft when both had better records than srv, cal, and foothill…so if it is we beat them they beat us triangle then why not go off record…wash played 5 very tough teams this year and gets no respect for it…i guess committee pretty much told the weaker conferences haal and mval to not bother with a non league schedule because we aren’t going to seed you higher no matter what anyways…
no accountability with a closed room and that is ridiculous…but in the end every has tough games and go to win now so irrelevant..just have no doubt that committee set that playoffs so no ebal teams would have to play each other in 1st round and that is B.S.!!
November 15th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Prep Fan, If Foothill and Granada are that bad it looks like Cal only had ONE quality win. Quality losses DLS by 39,MV by 21,AV by 11 and yes WHS by 2. I think you had a posting about injustice the other day, Cal(5-5) at #6 is….
November 15th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
MVAL @32.
On paper you are in the ballpark. The journalists who follow this- KB, CB, JD and BE- might have more insight as to the committee thought process once their moles “piece together” the scraps of paper left on the NCS floor.
What’s at play here, just like any other seeding process where there is not enough head to head to factor in, is the SOS and power rating. Simply put, there are no Boise States or Utahs here that got the shaft by the BCS(NCS). Teams that belong in are in (ouch for SLZ) and everybody else can pay their $6 to check out how it’s done.
The common thread that most EBAL teams (and I am not saying all) have is they get only three pre season tries to:
1. Maintain SOS 2. Get two W’s, maybe a L (see DLS) and 3. prepare wisely for the brutal reg. season league.
The teams that do that, then perform competitively in League- all posters seem to agree this was an unprecedented/strong/brutal/competitive whatever way you spin it EBAL season- and qualify, get rewarded.
Can only guess at this point the committee’s thought process on those lines…
November 15th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
would the winner of the foothill/logan game play DLS in the second round?
November 15th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Hello,
I know this is the wrong place for this but I feel if I go all the way back to the last MVAL stats blog, the comment will go unnoticed. I was wondering if anyone has MVAL stats from 2007.
Thank you,
Martin
GO NM COUGARS
And I was quite suprised MSJ didnt make it
November 15th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
I ran my a lot prior to the seedings. Now they’re here so I’ll accept them. But wow a 5 seed for B-High. I guess the gave no weight to the PV loss. Cause I didn’t have them any higher then that prior to game. Wow!
My only gripe is the scheduling. I wanna watch SL vs. Berkeley. Only cause it sets up nice for a Berkeley – Monte Vista match up. But it’s the same date & time as SRV & Pitt. Which in my estimation is gonna be a dogfight.
By the way I will bow down and sing the praises of the mighty EBAL if they all make it outta the 1st round. Not only are there 6 of the possible 8 teams in, but not 1 of them is a lower seed in their respective match-ups.
I;m just flabbergasted!!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
someone explain why pinole valley would have a higher seed in d-I than they received in d-II?
November 15th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
My predictions.
2009 NCS D-I Football Playoff’s
First Round:
(1) De La Salle over (16) American
(8) Foothill over (9) James Logan
(4) Monte Vista over (13) Heritage
(5) Berkeley over (12) San Leandro
(2) Deer Valley over (15) Newark Memorial
(10) Pittsburg over (7) San Ramon Valley [TIGHT GAME]
(3) Amador Valley over (14) College Park
(6) California over (11) Washington [TIGHT GAME]
Quarter-Final’s:
(1) De La Salle over (8) Foothill
(4) Monte Vista over (5) Berkeley [MUSTANGS BY 10]
(2) Deer Valley over (10) Pittsburg [TIGHT GAME]
(3) Amador Valley over (6) California [DONS BY 5]
Semi-Final’s:
(4) Monte Vista over (1) De La Salle [MUSTANGS BY 4]
(3) Amador Valley over (2) Deer Valley [DONS BY 6]
Final:
(4) Monte Vista over (3) Amador Valley [MUSTANGS BY 11]
November 15th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
They say ” they really are masters at Dutch Masters.” But not in this case. De La takes the whole enchillada by 21 against any of these teams.
November 15th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Mark these words now. Final four teams and the championship game will consist of only EBAL teams. All of the people who are saying WHS and Logan are legit are typing with one hand and drinking a frosty beverage with the other. Sober up chumps.
November 15th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
C’mon Joe throw us a bone…puffy chest can happen soon enough, apparently.
November 15th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Logan wins?
too unpredictable go round by round lol
Pitt will win though. Cal still unsure about. Foothill uncertain too. Berkeley unsure about as well.
Deer Valley wins big, Amador wins, Monte Vista wins big, De La Salle wins big
November 15th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
DLS would lose to a healthy MV team and DV but nobodies healthy right now.
Key players: QB Kristoff Williams at DV has sprained ankle
Pitt RB Erick Dargan out for the season, QB Amador Valley Kean Stancil hurt as well, SRV QB Chris Comes hurt too.
Cal doesnt have any injuries, MV has had big injuries before, LB Wilkerson, TE La Barbera, RB Johnson
November 15th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Martin,
The Newark Memorial stats for 2007 can be found on MaxPreps. Go to “football” and select the “year” you want, and then select “Stats”.
Here is the URL;
http://www.maxpreps.com/highschools/HHuhWT9CnE2lKOZvwNJkvw/newark-memorial-cougars/football-fall-07/stats.htm
November 15th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
American@DLS- ugly
Newark@DV- see above
CP@Amador- CP is on a roll as of late and AV is reeling after their loss against Foothill combined with injury to big playmaker and quarterback Stancil. I think Amador still has too much firepower but it could be closer then many think.
Heritage@MV- Well i guess the 33 point blowout at the beginning of the season wan’t enough so these teams meet again. Can McGovern surpass his 300 yards and 5 td’s from the last game?
San Leandro@Berkeley- A very intriguing game especially with the Jackets’ loss last week. Expect SL will be coming out with a defense that stacks the box just like Pinole. B-High better work on some passing. SL can put points on the board and B-High’s D will need to rise to the challenge. I think the jackets pull it out in a close game.
Washington@Cal- in one of two highly anticipated rematches between EBAL and MVAL teams the Huskies return to the site of a great season opening win. Cal has improved since that game but second half woes continue throughout the season and they are reeling after consecutive losses to MV and DLS. The Huskies lost their league title only a week ago and will want to prove the doubters that they can play with the EBAL teams. I am going to have to go with Cal, but I think it should be a very close game.
Pitt@SRV- This game is going to be a good one. SRV was a surprising seven seed in the bracket. Pitt suffered thanks to B-High’s loss the other night and their stock definitely dropped. SRV’s best win came against Foothill in the second EBAL game of the season. That seems like a long time ago because against the rest of the EBAL teams that made the playoffs it hasn’t been close. The Pirates on the other hand have played really well since their loss to B-High. A close two point loss to undefeated DV is what stood between them and another BVAL title. The Wolves are at home but I think the Pirates will prevail and I don’t think it will be very close.
Foothill@Logan- This is the other highly anticipated EBAL-MVAL rematch as the Colts of Logan look to avenge their early season loss to the Falcons. The Falcons have put in some good performances since struggling in their early EBAL games. Wins over MV and AV have saved them from being near the bottom of the bracket. They also played inspired football against DLS only a week ago as the game was 13-7 still with a few minutes left in the third quarter. Cameron Rowland has made a huge return and he is the EBAL’s second leading receiver and no doubt he was instrumental in the big win over Foothill. The Colts are a very tough team at home and took MV to the brink on the turf. It will be a good game, Foothill will need a run game to help Mannion out and I think Logan may be a little too physical. But you can never count out Mannion. I think the Falcons win a thriller in overtime.
November 15th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
if i recall Mike, DLS beat MV when they were healthy, some Mustangs got injured during the game. DLS has not been completely healthy all season until this last week and even Ward re-injured his ankle against Foothill.
November 15th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
i know ebal has a hard league but still to give all thier teams top seads is crazy. washington beat cal AT cal lost to two 10-0 teams DV and tracy and logan (who got off to a slow start and are much better now) and you put them at the 11. i guess thats why they do it behind closed doors now. they can scam without accountability
November 15th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Eagles feelin ta doggg dls.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
If Washington feels so strongly that their season opening win over Cal by 2 points in the final seconds should override anything else, they have a chance to prove it wasn’t a fluke and give a repeat performance. That was their only big win. However this time, Cal will be utilizing both Reggie Davis and Kyle Alvarez out of the backfield. The Huskies won that game fair and square and it was a big win, especially on the heels of the 41-0 crushing defeat by Cal in the first round of the playoffs a year ago. Let’s see if they can prove they are a better team than Cal is this year with a playoff victory when it counts most.
To Ron, I didn’t say Foothill was bad. They are a solid team and had some big wins against MV and AV. But unlike Washington, they really don’t have a gripe about Cal being seeded ahead of them, as Cal destroyed them head to head. Had they won that game, they would most definitely be seeded ahead of Cal. Washington has more of a case, but they get the chance to prove that seeding was wrong on the field on Saturday. Should be a good one.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Lmao what’s the chances of american winning? Which is most likely? De la salle vs the RAIDERS or amercian vs de la salle
November 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Give credit to American though, last year was a year to forget going 1 – 9 and they finished with a 5 – 5 record. Coach Amato has taken the eagles twice to the playoffs in the last three years.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
It’s obvious the committee was looking to have rematches of Cal/Wash and Foothill/Logan. How else do you justify seeding Cal 6th when they lose 3 of their last 4 games. Even though they played quality teams, they still lost 3 or 4 and got blown out in the finale. They’re only “quality” wins were against SRV & Foothill, two teams that finished 6-4. Other wins were against West, Granada and Livermore. Doesn’t add up.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Question for the Divison I rankings / home field advantage. I see Foothil is ranked 8th and they are going to play against Logan that is ranked 9th. It shows that the game will be played at Logan. So why wouldn’t the higher seed have the home field advantage? Was that posting a mistake?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
here is my predictions for the Di playoffs, 1st round
16 American at 1 De La Salle- DLS In a laugher,u can thank the money hungry NCS for making this kids suffer
49-0
8 Foothill at 9 James Logan-Im gonna go with foothill with a slight upset over Logan but its gonna be tough beating them at home, 24-21
13 Heritage at 4 Monte Vista- That right MV team shows up and runs through heritage, 31-17
12 San Leandro at 5 Berkeley-This has to be the toughest game to call in this bracket im gonna go with B-high, but i dont see them going much farther after this win..21-14
15 Newark Memorial at 2 Deer Valley-DV will win easy, How much they score depends on if their QB plays at all…35-7
10 Pittsburg at 7 San Ramon Valley-Im going with Pitt here, SRV is too up and down this year to be reliable in the Playoffs but it should be close…17-10
14 College Park at 3 Amador Valley-See Deer Valley and replace williams with Kean Stancil-27-10
11 Washington at 6 California-i Gotta go with the popular choice on this one, Cal winning this rematch just like everyone else thinks 28-20
November 15th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
I think they put too much stock into the Calpreps.com rankings, which has Cal at No. 5 in NCS DI.
Justifying Cal seeded above Washington at all, let alone 6 vs 11, is hard to do.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
No bodies giving SL a shot over berkeley
I remember the best coach i ever had to me
i dont care about ur 4.4 speed ur verts or ur bench
football is 100% mental (dummy)
BRAINS OVER EVERYTHING
November 15th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
#59 are u a sl alum, and are u saying coach boom is a better coach then carter????
November 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
sl beats berkeley 48-21
November 15th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
IM saying exactly what i said i went 2 skyline
November 15th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
I think there are some great matchups here. Nice to see another Cal/Wash game, should be a good one. Logan/Foothill….thats awesome. And I think SL/Berkeley will be good too. Granted the EBAL is all over it again, but there really aren’t a lot of alternatives. Its not like the MVAL got shafted, 4 teams is pretty good.
Hoping for a lot of close games.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
I’m predicting that S.l will cone out on top against berkely high and also pittsburg will come out on top…but what about Logan
November 15th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
The ultimate goal here is to get to the Championship game. Why all the whining about seeding? If your team if for real they will win and stay in. What I see above is sour grapes because you don’t believe your team can beat the matchup they were given and believe you should have drawn an opponent that would just about give a guaranteed win. This is “Division I” playoffs so teams will have to play up to that level to stay in. If Cal was #11 and Washington was # 6 they wouold still play each other so what’s the problem? I believe Washington lucked out the first meeting. Last time they didn’t have to face the Three Headed Monster that has emerged out of the Grizzlie camp nor have they played the league schedule Cal has. Cal wins 33 – 20.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
real nice that all the ebal teams r in the top 8 seedings so they wouldn’t have 2 play each other till the second round
did anyone notice that sound like the republican are up 2 thier old trick went to get ben ladin and came back with saddam
November 15th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
ummmm…sounds like The G.O.A.T. got into the liquor cabinet a little early this evening. Enough whining already…The EBAL is clearly the most talented and dominant league and that is why some people are upset because they fear playing EBAL teams (as they should). I look forward to seeing how well they all do this weekend and I am especially looking forward to watching Cal take revenge on Washington. I hope it’s a repeat of last year’s playoff game =) . Go GRIZZ.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
I think S.L. takes out Berkeley 30-14
November 15th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
but in hearing everyone’s talk i think that is the gripe many washington people would have…yes you have to win in the playoffs, yes they have a chance to prove that the first game was no fluke…but if they lose then everyone will say, see committe got it right cal deserved to be there and they will get zero credit for a great win early in the season. while cal is a great team you still have to have prove on paper and there is not one single argument you can make that justifies cal being 5 spots ahead of washington… they are also attemtping to beat a team twice in same year which is very very tough to do at in level when there is a quality matchup…so lose and washington is just another dog team not from the ebal…
there is no doubt you got to win to go on, so seedings aren’t as much as people make them out to be…but still how did all EBAL teams avoid each other in 1st round…and paving the way for all ebal teams to move on when jumbling those seeds around the way they should have been could have put some of those ebal teams on the road in tougher circumstances or up against each other…and if your argument is ebal plays each other already than keep them separated…then why is wash playing cal and logan playing foothill two teams that have already played this year…in fact logan has played foothill more over the last 3-4 years than any ebal school has…why? because they seem to get them in playoffs every year…and washington has played cal now 3 times in last 12 games each has played that seems a little weird, lets see some new matchups…(oh wait they did that, but only with the EBAL in mind)…isn’t the NCS office in San Ramon, right in the heart of EBAL..mmmmmmmmmm that’s weird
November 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
G.O.A.T. I thought that was really interesting. Like I said a couple on week ago. With the new seeding method the committee does not have to worry about answering the tough questions in the parking lot.
Can it possibly be about the money? Do those schools get more people through the gates. Because that would be a damn shame. And here I always thought it was about properly seeding the games and getting it right.
Food for thought.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
ya i hope they go back to the open meetings.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
im taken wash over cal 35 to 31 i think wash isout to prove it was no fluke
November 15th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
wannaknow
the fox is guarding the hen house
is dick channey on the commitee or maybe sarah PALIN lmao
i cant wait 4 SL 2 play MV in the second round
November 15th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
I do think SL will win that game but I do wanna see if Berkeley is able to put up a good fight after the knock out punch the got from PV on friday. Cause PV ain’t no san leandro. I will say that.
November 15th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
San Leandro is a well-balanced team, they can run and throw. I think they can win it, but Berkeley coming off a loss will be pretty focussed. Should be fun.
November 15th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Cal’s last four games. AV, Foothill, MV and DLS- who in the MVAL or any other league would EVER want to finish with those four IN LEAGUE PLAY (let alone one of them in ANY round of playoffs? )If MVAL/ACCAL/HAAL/MCAL teams or any takers, want any TWO of those for your next preseason SOS games, schedule them!…okay so they lost to THREE of THE TOP FOUR SEEDS in NCS Division 1, whom nobody is disclaiming belonging where they are today…but Cal HAD to win one of those last four to qualify and at gametime, Foothill was ranked #14 in the Bay Area (not just East Bay) by the Chronicle, AND had just beat MV the week before in the ESPNU game. The Grizzlies then handed Foothill a 45-24 loss, (which in full disclosure, the same number was handed to Cal in their loss the next week to MV.) Blaming NCS for the perfect storm in the EBAL this year is avoiding the inevitable facts of strength of schedule (imagine if DLS hadn’t joined last year and there was another open preseason game for EBAL- add another, and maybe both! remainder EBAL team to the playoffs) These scenarios easily trump “but where are their quality wins?” throwaway comments I see popping up here…
November 15th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
All the EBAL teams have home field adv. thats a big plus in the playoffs does anyone see anything wrong with that. They r convenientily ranked its almost like stealing or cheating good luck everyone but im starting 2 dislike the commitee next it will b the refs when does it stop
November 15th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Matt I totally agree. it will be fun. Not competitive, but fun nonetheless. SL can score points. PV was offensively challenged. I want to see how Berkeley will react. But they are still a one dimensional football team. And you cant beat a real team with a coaching staff that does their job like that. It would be asinine for SL to lose this game. PV gave them the blueprint. There’s a big difference between not passing and not being able to pass.
November 15th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
the reason all the EBAL teams got home field, has already been stated it has consistently the most dominant and talented teams in the area…i understand why some teams would have a gripe about seeding if they have to travel crazy Far but in the playoffs everyone has equal chance to win and go on, so people need to stop bitching about it and play the game…
November 15th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
GOAT-
Foothill is at James Logan.
Ask any MV fan about officiating i.e. the AV game…it’s even online at IBNsports.com…..it’s not pretty out here all the time I can assure you of that.
November 15th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Pittsburg i got the seed they wanted either 10 or 7. oh yea and Dargan will be back for the playoffs if they can get by SRV, he’ll show up for that DV game.
November 15th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
well washington’s 1st 3 of 4 games were….cal win…deer valley 10-0 #2 seed, CP #14 seed, and tracy 10-0 #1 seed in san joaquin section…so cal played a very tough last 4…washington played a very tough 1st 4…botoom line is anyone can schedule really hard games but the fact is you still have to win them….otherwise just go schedule dls, grant, poly, oaks christian, etc. etc. and then claim strength of schedule…who is giving logan credit for being one play away from knocking off mv and DV the #2 and #4 seed, yet somehow get a 9 seed…Why? because they didn’t win those games…which is exactly my point with the ebal and some of those teams…
nobody is arguing that the EBAL is not the strongest league..hands down it isn’t really close…but to say they all deserve 6 of top 8 seeds is ridiculous and they miraculously avoid all their own teams…
nobody is disputing cal isn’t a good team, or foothill or anyone else…but still your overall resume still should be the deciding factor that is all i am saying…
ok srv beats foothill and not one other d1 playoff team…but loses to cal by 24, mv by 20+, av, dls…. and still get a #7 that is amazing to me…so if that don’t sound like EBAL homer committe i don’t know what does….again SRV is a good team not taking anything away from them, but doesn’t mean they deserve the seed they got based on overall body of work.
November 15th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
i agree pitt ended up with a great scenario getting SRV a winnable game and then DV a team they know well and nearly knocked off…
November 15th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
they should just let bonagura seed the teams. his bracket for DI made much more sense than the committees!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Slow your roll Vic! Hold your horses. I’ll give you dominate wins don’t lie. But don’t come on this board saying that top to bottom EBAL squads are most talented. Cause that just isn’t true. I this game, a game where the best team doesn’t always win. A game where coaches monitor another team’s drop off in talent. A game where the good coaches can count on scheming their way to a win. Don’t insult our intelligence. The EBAL wins. True dat. But don’t say it’s because of talent. You give Kennedy of richmond EBAL resources and they can compete. Starting with teachers and going on down to the number of balls your teams own. The only reason those other schools can keep it close is because of their talent. They have horrible weight rooms, not enough funding, and coaches that coach not necessarily for the love of the game but for the additional check.
I have no problem when you guys speak the truth but that just madness. And trust me it took a lot for me not to insult you personally. I’m giving you he benefit of the doubt. You’re in a position of privilege and maybe YOU JUST DON’T KNOW!!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Ebal has better coaching and more money not better talent so they need that home field to pull it off
i single handedly destroyed DlS when i was on JV at the LINE the next year when I was on VAR the refused 2 play us thats how the Ebal get down
November 15th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
The seeds ended up as they should have really, if you look at it. Washingtong beat Cal but lost to Logan. Logan lost to MV and was losing 35-6 at half to Foothill. Foothill also beat AV and MV which only DLS can say. Foothill couldn’t be ranked ahead of CAl because CAl beat them soundly. Wash has three losses, CAl five but Washington didnt have to Play DLS, AV, MV or Foothill. It is what it is, its HS School football, anything can happen unless your DLS. Good luck to everyone. only true UPSET of the the first round will be College Park if they can throw. Foothill exposed Amador’s secondary. They had guys wide up and if Stancil is out,or even slowed, CP just needs to load the box. If Wash, Logan, Pitt or Sl win, they are not really that big of upsets because you are talikng about all traditional sound NCS programs. The funny thing is if Granada would have beat San Ramon, the EBAL would have 7 teams in and the seeding would have been even harder to figure since they would have a win over Foothill.
November 15th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
I agree that money has a lil but to do with it but it aint all about the green, skill is skill thats plain and simple and some schools just dont have it…thats why the EBAL is the preimer leauge in the area yeah other, schools outside the area have a player or 2 every year that they can pound the rock to 30 x a game whos a beast but im talking about up and down the roster from the starting QB to the back up Kicker ….and wannaknow, u dont know me homie…position of privilege??…son i grew up in the heart of oakland…so dont come at me like that…im just telling u how it is..BTW THE BEST TEAMS FIND WAYS TO WIN NOT MAKE EXCUSES …BAD REEFS, SEEDING, NO $$…U PLAY TO WIN
November 15th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Vic u grew up in the heart of oakland dont be a fool
money has everything 2 do with it
eat 3 square meals has something 2 do with it
have 2 parents at home has something 2 do with it
not passing drug dealers on ur way 2 school has something 2 do with it
November 15th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
goat man this ain’t even about DLS. Although I loved the way Montana punked their asses. It’s more about how when people get in a position to make decisions and make those decisions to ensure that them and theirs are taken care of. So this is the 3rd consecutive year that the EBAL has made up almost 50% of the playoff field. The 2nd that they have held all the higher seeds in their match-ups, A you want to seel me that Cal High is the 6th best team in this bracket. Cal that lost to 3 of their last 4 to get in. Cal that went 1 & 2 in non-league. With the one win coming over a West high school team that finished with 3 wins. They won 4 league games. 2 of them came against non-qualifiers. Sorry I not buying their brand. PUT EM IN THE BOTTOM 3 WHERE THEY BELONG.
November 15th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Vic there is a difference between skill and talent. I can teach you how to compete with talent by giving you superior techniques. But when everyone is getting the same level of coaching, the same type of equipment and opportunities talent wins out. Camps cost money, coaching clinics cost money, training equipment costs money. And those that have it use it to make sure their kids have the best chances in life. And I’m not faulting them. Hell I’m trying to find a way to get my son in to an Orinda kindergarten. I got 2 years to figure it out. But to not acknowledge and say your better is just criminal. This is just a sport and they have found a way to poison it. something that is supposed to be so pure. A child’s game for crying out loud.
Got you again buddy. But you’re welcome to keep trying.
November 15th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
preach brother preach
i couldnt have said it better myself
i meet some of those ebal players at a few camp
russel white went 2 oregon crap
twain van lee went 2 stanford crap
November 15th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Bottomline: Washington got away with one.. beating Cal, and they did NOT want the rematch. No one wants to face the EBAL and were really hoping the EBAL teams would knock each other out, but no such luck. Whine all you want MVAL, just be ready to play.
November 15th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
DV is avery dangerous team watch out. Can play with any body
November 15th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
right cause jerry rice got so good by going to all kinds of skills camps right??…and he had the best coaching?…No he worked his ass of running through the mud in mississippi…players who really want it dont bitch about not having money or where they live they make it happen for themselves and their teams…u guys talk about $$ but realize what u all say has no substance…
November 15th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
And I think everyone wants to play the EBAL. To try to knock em down a peg. I keep trying to tell ya’ll the gap is closing fast. Soon the only way for the EBAL to continue their “dominance” will be to avoid certain schools or leagues altogether.
November 15th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
i suggest we all meet at a sports bar sunday after all the games are played so some can gloat and other can bow their head in humage lol
November 15th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
That was a different time vic. High school football is big business now. With your camps, nationally televised games, and recruiting shows. I’m not saying they have not talent in that league. But you made a definitive statement by saying the best. And that’s what I’m disputing.
November 15th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I understand what ure saying but , what do u consider the best?…it has to be from a game stand point teams that win
November 15th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Are you kidding GOAT??? Great idea. We all would be unable to make it though. We would never make up our minds on where to go. Be it location, finances, or whatever. LOL!
November 15th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
If you are worried about having to play the 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th place teams in the EBAL on the road, then maybe you don’t belong in the playoffs yourselves. If the EBAL has teams that don’t belong here, then step up and beat them. MV, Cal, SRV and Foothill are all very good teams and will come to play ball this weekend. Just because they have beat up on each other in the EBAL doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be forces in the MVAL, ACCAL, DVAL, HAAL or BVAL.
November 15th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
VIC ihope ur not black man cuz u sound like a tom
i guess there is no racism either
jerry rice is the product of the system right place right time right QB right coach
November 15th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
See what I mean fellas. Prep fan did you just say maybe you don’t belong??? We’re all free around hear homie. Maybe you didn’t mean it like that, but it sure felt like you said this is your party and you graced others with an invitation. To come to your house and play by your rules. Wow!!!! Can you chose your words more carefully considering how this conversation has been going.
November 15th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
GOAT in this I wouldn’t call it racism. Like Willie Beeman said, “It more like Placeism. Brotha gotta know his place” Cause color doesn’t matter in this. You hear PREPPIE fan. You don’t belong. Tell you what get some of your parents and/or business to sponsor an inner-city football program coaches and all. Then we can see what’s what. Think about it. It’s a hell of a tax write off.
November 15th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
WannaKnow
its almost like im back in texas
yes sir thank u sir for screwing us ill be back next year so u can screw us again
November 15th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
i disagree with vic, the ebal does not have the BEST/MOST talented players. they do have very well coached players and play very hard and discipline, but not the BEST/MOST talent at all. very good resources $$$$$$
November 15th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Wasup bhsfan? Wanna continue our Logan Murdock conversation of 2 weeks ago? Sometimes you gotta step away and watch your team. You can’t watch it like a fan. My son is 3 years old and there were so many incomplete Berkeley passes he asked me if he could go and get the ball and hold it. 2 questions did you go to the game? And did you watch the game?
November 15th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
hey BhsFAN tell Zo 2 lay of the sandwiches it starting 2 show in his gut im about 2 watch PV beat BHS on cal hi sports
November 15th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
For the sake of actually presenting facts and keeping the discussion above board, please present an argument that demonstrates why Washington and Logan should be seeded higher than any of the EBAL Schools?
November 15th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Why, Just for giggles I’ll bite.
California beat 2 playoff qualifies all season. only 2. and 1 of them by 3 points. You can’t claim SOS if you don’t win any of them. If they lost the Foothill game they wouldn’t be in. But they win that game and it make them the 6 best team in the entire field??? I DON’T THINK SO. They lost 3 of their final 4. and they 3 weren’t close. So you’re trying to tell me that there is no team that fits in between their 5-5 and and MV’s 7-3.
And once you give me the answer please let me know if you’re serious or are you just keeping the debate going.
November 15th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
wannaknow i dont recall conversating with you bout logan murdoc, might have been another person, dont really have much to say but hes a nice kid and is really trying to get better. and yes i was at the game.
#108 y dont u man up and tell him urself, i was raised that if i have something to say to somebody say it to them not behind their back. ps thanks for all the haterism toward b high
November 15th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
4 godness sake do wins and loses count anymore
JUST cuz u guys rig the seeding every year does make u good i makes u republican u remember the hanging chads how about the votes that didnt get counted well i will call this the seeding with no doors or walls how about this i put my kid up against any DB in the EBAL he will destroy period so u put your money wear u mouth is WHY and VIC
November 15th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
BHSfan ur riding ZO dick so hard u better use some lube
get ur pom poms out put ur mini skirt on ill be at the game watching my kid track out on bhs
track out mean sprinting with out getting touch thats only 4 fast people
November 15th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Sorry Bhs, I beg you pardon. I jumped the gun, It was jacket fan that basically screamed nonsense at me for the better part of an hour.
November 15th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
goat u get a big CHILD PLEASE, i dont ride anything ask ur mom if she does, how is tell u to man up and tell somebody something to they face dick riding i dont know, i dont deliver punk messages, u deliver ur own punk message, be a man. coach carter was in my comment, u the one paying attention to another mans shape, thats a lil suspect [ a 2 for 1 ] i bet u drop the soap, lmao.
wannaknow no problem its all good. the wide out mcgill looked pretty good, he had a few catches
November 16th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Yeah. He did. It could have been better but the ball just wasn’t there. He worked real hard to get his speed down and to not be rewarded is a shame. Who’s coaching the QB’s over there now?
November 16th, 2009 at 12:04 am
how about we meet face to face i tell zo to eat more salad and see if u say something about my mom to my face bitch made ni$$a everything tht glitters anit gold
November 16th, 2009 at 12:14 am
wannaknow not sure.
as far as the goat ladies and gentlemen we have an internet thug. hey man get a life this blog i thought was bout prep sports. how bout htese playoff games coming
November 16th, 2009 at 12:15 am
oopps miss spelling there these playoff games coming
November 16th, 2009 at 12:20 am
cowards come in all shape and size only a coward would say something about someone mom over the net
ill sake zo hand after the game and tell him about his bitch made fans so bow down
November 16th, 2009 at 12:21 am
As a player on one of these teams… ya some seedings do not go the way you want, and some really surprise you. But at the end of the day the goal is to win an NCS championship. So who cares about who you play in the first and second round. To be the best you have to beat(that includes playing) the best. In such a competitive section its put up or shut up.
November 16th, 2009 at 12:26 am
hey goat aka internet thug u can dish out insults but cant stand to recieve them. have a good life.
cant wait to see the outcome of the cal/wash game
November 16th, 2009 at 12:32 am
ill take that as a im sorry dude i was only joking
in the future u should no not 2 joke with people mother u be safe i mean yellow
jacket
November 16th, 2009 at 12:49 am
goat how bout you stick to the topic and talk high school football, dont look like bhsfan was appoligizing i think he was ignoring you, dont dish it out if you cant handle the reply, seems like you got your feelings hurt. i think bhsfan could have came with a better momma joke. lol
think berkeley and SL will be a good one, hope my pirates pull it through, program has had success this decade in the playoff, we still cant beat dls though.
jimmy or kyle do you guys know if the meetings will be closed for good or this was a pilot test this year. dont think SL got a fair seeding.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:09 am
hey goat ur just not worth the back and forth.
was wondering how av lost and still got the 3 seed
November 16th, 2009 at 1:27 am
bhsfan- my guess is that the committee saw the wins over MV, Cal, SRV and a close loss to DLS. it really makes no sense but if you are gonna seed MV four, AV should be ahead of them but then you could say the same thing about Wash/Cal and some other squads. The fact is the closed door meetings suck because then they don’t have to look at a coach and say well we are going to seed your teams this and here is why.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:33 am
yeah i dont think a lot of people like this new way, san lorenzo got a raw deal in their div
November 16th, 2009 at 1:38 am
I have to agree with Bhsfan on that one…something went on in that D2 meeting for SLZ to get left out
November 16th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Two GOAT gems that need repeating:
1. DLS changed their scheduling because of his line play.
2. Jerry Rice was a product of a system.
This is great entertainment.
November 16th, 2009 at 7:55 am
im taking american with the slight upset to dls
November 16th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Interesting Choices and the EBAL is well represented and a lot of Rematch Weekend in D1 first round:
1. Foothill vs. Logan – Obviously Logan played much better the 2nd half of the season and earned their league title. Foothill was fresh and healthy early in the season but the grind of EBAL play wore them down. Look for the ball to fly with Mannion and company, and Logan if they minimize their own errors to be tough at home. Huge crowd expected for this game.
2. San Leandro vs. Berkeley – What a difference a week makes! Oh boy…the word is out that Berkeley Cannot throw the football and that crystalline message was hand-delivered to Coach Brad Bowers of SL and immediately opened, read with glee by the esteemed Pirates coach. San Leandro will put 15 Guys in the Box, and play a Cover 000000000 with No Free Safety, Cornerbacks, Strong Safeties or deep defenders at all.
3. Pitt vs. San Ramon Valley – An interesting game to breakdown. Pitt has been begging for RESPECT all year and will finally get their chance to earn it when the chips are on the line. San Ramon can beat Pitt but if they don’t play their sharpest game, it could quickly turn upside down. Pitt is a sleeper team – if that can be said of the normally strong Pitt program?
4. Washington vs. Cal – Seems the Griz are incredibly lucky in their seeding and got the benefit of the doubt from the NCS selectors. Washington is smarting after losing title to Logan, and Cal has revenge on their minds. Everybody along the 680 corridor has been saying all year that the Huskies got Lucky when they beat Cal….now is the time to back it up and win vs. Washington.
November 16th, 2009 at 8:35 am
“If you are worried about having to play the 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th place teams in the EBAL on the road, then maybe you don’t belong in the playoffs yourselves. If the EBAL has teams that don’t belong here, then step up and beat them. MV, Cal, SRV and Foothill are all very good teams and will come to play ball this weekend. Just because they have beat up on each other in the EBAL doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be forces in the MVAL, ACCAL, DVAL, HAAL or BVAL.”
I’m really not sure how this quote stirred up racism comments. The point being people shouldn’t be worried about the EBAL’s also rans. If the seeding is all wrong and the EBAL teams aren’t very good afterall, then no one should be worried about playing the games. But the MVAL #2 squad is facing the EBAL #4 team, and the MVAL #1 is facing the EBAL #6 team. If DLS plays against the MVAL #6 team & AV plays the MVAL #4 team, it would not matter when or where the games were played. Just be glad there are enough weak EBAL teams to go around so that everone will get a chance at playing one of them. Have at it.
November 16th, 2009 at 9:17 am
junior- GOAT didn’t play on the line he went to skyline high, but yes i was impressed that his single-handed destruction of the DLS jv’s caused DLS (who was not in the EBAL then) to change their varsity schedule.
November 16th, 2009 at 9:29 am
to Junior
#129 ignorance is blissful u fool the west coast offense was fairly new when rice came in the game no one passed. then it was all running game jerry rice runs a 4.7 40 has no vertical doesnt bench but he can run all day and runs great routes and his hands r great he is still at a 100%
energy when everyonelse is at 75 or 80 thats y he’s good asshole if u never signed a contact please shut up
November 16th, 2009 at 9:34 am
SLpirate24,
Unless something changes, this is how the meetings will be for good. It was a pilot program two years ago in basketball and after that got positive reviews (not sure from whom), it was expanded to the rest of the sports.
November 16th, 2009 at 9:37 am
oh i get it this is a blog with alot of wanna b players not people who actually played the game
so from the outside looking n whats basic seems amazing
if u never ran a 4.4 40 u dont no what it feels like
if u never jumped 42in. u cant imagine flying
if u never look in to a man eyes and seen u taken his whole essence of being shut up
November 16th, 2009 at 9:44 am
ebal fans keep making SAME ARGUMENT!!!! nobody is saying ebal is not the strongest league…comparing mval’s 4th or 6th place team is irrelevant…you would argue cal deserves to be seeded ahead of srv and foothill correct? why? well because they beat them head to head and finished higher in league…ok so why doesn’t washington have the same argument that is non- ebal’s point of view…
so the argument is what criteria did the committee use…seems to me it was very one sided and not consistent…they used the head to head matchups when benefited ebal and didn’t use it when it didn’t help them…
again EBAL STRONGEST LEAGUE NO DOUBT!!! but you still have to win some of those games. washington and logan did play top level opponents…both played the #2 seed, wash played the #1 in san joaquin section who by the way beat the heck out of west one of srv/cal highs wins. in fact there score at halftime was how srv and cals final score was, so obviously tracy a good team…logan plyaed the #4 seed much closer than srv, cal, and foothill. so yes they lost to foothill, but they beat washington who beat your #4. we all played tough teams…
November 16th, 2009 at 9:47 am
do i have this right goat: if you are the best conditioned receiver and play in the west coast offense you will break every receiving record and go to the Hall?
November 16th, 2009 at 9:58 am
LOok junior the man can catch i trainned with him 4 years he runs great routes but i feel and this is my oppinion u can put plenty of WR in that situation with montana young walsh genius dude miss valley state u dont remember rice couldnt catch a cold when he came in the league Walsh brain washed him and he came out greatest of all time. Now let get back to high school footbll
November 16th, 2009 at 10:04 am
so who plays who the next round? say dls wins, deer valley wins, do they play eachother the next round?
November 16th, 2009 at 10:11 am
thanks for clearing that up goat.
I want to go on the record that the goat might have some facts to back up his DLS/afraid to play him comment:
DLS played Skyline 1984,1985 and then (mysteriously) did not play them until 1996,1998,1999.
November 16th, 2009 at 10:12 am
GOAT- the west coast offense was new when rice came in but to say people didn’t pass is not correct. In 1967 Joe Namath threw for 4,000 yards and became the first quarterback to do so. that is 18 years before rice played in the NFL. In 1980 and 1981 Dan Fouts threw for over 4,700 yards. In 1984, Neil Lomax threw for over 4,600 yards. In 1984 Marino set the record with 5,084 yards.
this blog is for high school sports fans. some of us played, some coached, some have kids who played, and yes some have no involvement in the game other then they enjoy watching and talking about it.
November 16th, 2009 at 10:17 am
so im still confused about second round..will dls play the winner of foothill/logan game or will dls play the winner of deer valley/newark game. because theres two brackets that says their playing different teams second round
November 16th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Big Game Saturday @ B-High….Whew!!!Playoff football…The Light’s Get Brighter….
November 16th, 2009 at 10:30 am
You guys talk about Washington beating Cal but you conveniently fail to discuss your 1st place Logan getting blitzed by the 6th place team in the EBAL. So by your same argument, you can’t put Logan in front of Foothill and Washington lost to Logan. Foothill beat the 3 seed convincingly and also beat the 4 seed but you dont hear them complaining. The committee got the seedings right, aside from DLS, all these teams are capable of beating eachother, Logan can beat Foothill and Washington can beat Cal again, SL can beat BHS, Pitt probably will beat SRV. Enjoy the games, and to think DLS stopped playing somebody becasue of a player is laughable. DLS stopped plaing Skyline so they could add other new opponents to their schedule. Look at their track record, they ususlly play a team two or three times and then move on. Aside from Serra where the Serra coach played at DLS for Lad, that is their track record.
November 16th, 2009 at 10:35 am
ok junior u c those vacant year go look at how many d1 players and pros are on those skyline team that dls ducked their coach pick and choose just like a heavy weight champs
November 16th, 2009 at 10:39 am
“logan plyaed the #4 seed much closer than srv, cal, and foothill.”
Foothill beat the #4 seed Monte Vista and Logan lost to them. So how is that playing them closer than Foothill? Cal was tied with MV in the 4th quarter before giving up some late scores, but it was very close up to that point.
I’m the first to say Washington has an argument to be seeded over Cal. However, the team that beat them, Logan, lost to a Foothill team that Cal destroyed. The committee can only look at tht circular argument so any ways before having to finally put something down. So maybe Wahington should be the #6 seed and Cal should be #12. The game would then be played at Washington. But last year Cal was seeded higher and had to play at Washington due to their being a league champ and still got the job done. So, Washington just needs to come in and prove that what they accomplished in week #1 was no fluke and that they are a better team than Cal. If they can do that, they’ll earn a chance to move on to play AV (or CP). Luckily this gets settled on the field.
November 16th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Seems like the Cal seeding has everyone upset. I don’t think they have improved over the course of the season.
November 16th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Hey man im just happy 2 b in the offs handling adversity makes u a man My son get to play under the bright light with a chip on his shoulder He said DAD im gonna give them what they WANT then let them no this anit what U NEED
THE APPLE DONT FALL 2 FAR FROM THE TREE
November 16th, 2009 at 11:48 am
So is it goat and billygoat? lol
November 16th, 2009 at 11:49 am
San Leandro vs Berkeley on Saturday. The best opening playoff game in history. Bunch of fast athletics playing against each other. It will be a great game. But I think SL will pull off with the close win but it could go either way.
November 16th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
#150 wondering
that is truly some funny zhit lmao
i can appreciate that lmao again
November 16th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
i completely agree prep fan it is a circular between all of those teams…and i have repeatedly said that in all my posts…my argument is logan and washington both come in with better records and did play top notch opponents…yes cal, srv, foothill have slightly higher S.O.S. but it isn’t like washington and logan werent tested this year in many games…so why do they get slammed when all the EBAL gets the benefit of the doubt…and yes i agree the ebal has arguments to be above them as well…but to compare what happened last year and this year isn’t fair, two completely different teams. washington deserved to be where they were last year no doubt
my issue is how the committee determined these seeds…and i think the closed doors is a terrible idea, allows for no accountability on committee’s part to just put who they want where without justification…
and i do think keeping all ebal teams separated was part of their plan…
again i have no disrespect to the EBAL they are a great league and have great teams top to bottom…
looking forward to a great week of games and wish everyone luck and to stay healthy to keep this playoff very interasting until the championship game…
November 16th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
i remember skyline and DLS playing in 96 that skyline team was full of juniors, i was wishing they played the next season but didnt, i didnt know they played in 98 and 99 and that would seem to some people that they ducked that great 98 skyline team, in 98 they had tons of talent, lot of players that played d1 in college. i think it would have been a great matchup if they had played. guess coach lad felt he had a better team to play, can say one thing when beam was at skyline he wasnt scare to play any team.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Thanks goat good luck to you and yours and if you take care of B-high you will have MV at home
November 16th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
all i no is speed kills and if u blink or get something in ur eye go 2 the snack bar spill ur soda pop get nacho cheese sauce on ur shirt the game could b over The coaching at SL state has really improved they got they swagger back. Just when u thought it was safe 2 go outside pow right in the kisser gentlemen i luv this GAME!!! bhSFAN COME DOWN AFTER THE GAME ILL INTRO U 2 THE NEXT 100 MILLION DOLLAR MAN AND U 2 CAN B A SL STATE FAN LOL
November 16th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
De La Didn’t duck anybody in any yrs- especially 98 and 99. They beat Skyline with all their Div 1 players in 99 37-00, held the Titans to 78 yds. rushing and 28 yds passing. The game was over at half-time, I was there. Just for the record, they also beat St. Francis that yr 35-7, YV 71-32, Mater Dei 42-00, BaKERFIELD 35-8, Pitt 48-14, and San Leandro in the playoff final 38-14. All of those teams were ranked and finished in their respective areas as ranked.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Wondering, I do not think you are correct in your statement of SL getting MV at home. League Champs get to host first round and semifinal round games, the home team on other games is determined by seed. I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
If MV were to play San Leandro, the game would be at San Leandro. League champs get to host vs teams that didn’t win their league in every round — except the finals.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Im sure most of you know this already. But it has not been confirmed. This was what Mitch Stephesn from SFgate.com said in his Berkeley article.
* The biggest upset was in Berkeley where fourth-ranked Berkeley, now 9-1, was stunned by Pinole Valley 13-10. This comes on the heels that Berkeley coach Alonzo Carter will leave at the end of the season to take over at Contra Costa College. We haven’t confirmed the report but it is swirling and could have had an effect on the Alameda County Athletic League contest.
Read more: http://www.sfchron.com/cgi-bin/blogs/prepsports/index?#ixzz0X4J1wRNK
What is the truth behind this? Who takes over at B-High??
November 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
It could have had an effect on the game? Where does that come from? Did Zo change his coaching style or preparation for the game or did the players try less? I have to give PV more credit than that.
November 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
NBFB, This rumour is spreading fast without anyone saying otherwise. Word on the streets is that you might see Brian Hamilton from Concord High School at Berkeley next year.
November 16th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Hello,
I saw the maxpreps stats for 2007 MVAL. I mean, its good but I would like the official stats like the ones they have here on this website if possible. Email is: mjd36@Att.net
Thank you,
Martin
November 16th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
I’m am surprised and at the same time happy that American made the playoffs. Last Year was horrible for them, so this is a nice turnaround. Unfortunately, they have to play DE LA SALLE. It sucks, but i’ll still root for my team, the American High Eagles.
November 16th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
God please not Coach Ham, Hes a moron!!!!!
November 16th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I am upset that all the good games are on Saturday. Why couldn’t they have put some of the middle seed games on Friday?
November 16th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Sweet. Now that DeLaSalle has joined the EBAL we can see them… uh…. play the same teams again!
After smoking American, they’ll beat Foothill, Monte Vista & Amador which is going to be so very exciting!
When are people going to wise up and take them out of the equation? It’s fine if they want to compete and win the EBAL, but after two decades in a row of keeping everyone else (without recruited players) from winning NCS isn’t enough enough?
November 17th, 2009 at 6:28 am
So Greg what do you suggest. DLS just discontinue their football program so others have a shot or maybe the others are stepping up and the competition only makes everyone better. Looks to me like you all better be watching Valley Christian. You may have two schools to whine about in a few years. Maybe the pubs should start charging tuition so they can get the better athletes. LOL
November 17th, 2009 at 6:50 am
u think DLS is un invincable then u cant coach as a unit they r great divide and conquer take the one on one match ups stop trying 2 run the ball when thier o-line and d-lines r far superior i have never seen such stupidity out of coaching i think ill coach next year and show people y speed kills i keep seeing all this running back running n2 brick walls get ur backs in space i.e. west coast off. u have the blue print niners fans plz take my advise i want DLS 2 go down
November 17th, 2009 at 7:16 am
GOAT wow, that was quite a statement. Apparantly according to you there hasn’t been a decent coach in the North Coast Section over the past 17 years. I would love it if you coached this year and would be the first one to schedule my team against yours. Your comments on this page have shown everyone what kind of coach you would be. Speed kills, if you are driving a car and run into something. I’m pretty sure that DLS has played some fast teams over the years, you’ll have to come up with something better that just running fast and a West Coast offense if you want to win any games. Maybe you can put on your JV gear and they’ll see you and remember how much their JV was dominated that year and simply walk off the field? Good luck to any team you coach next year. Please let us all know which team it is so that we can witness the greatness.
November 17th, 2009 at 7:30 am
lean not to ur own understanding
PANTHER4 ur one of those people forcing square pegs in round holes do u see randy moss they move him around 2 get one on one match ups fool
but if u dont understand and ur coaching the kids
i feel sorry that they will have to unlearn what u taught them
November 17th, 2009 at 7:34 am
and ill will b sure to let u no where i coach so u can no what malice intent feels like
I PLAY THIS GAME
NO FEAR
NO HESITATION
NO PAIN
November 17th, 2009 at 8:08 am
#170:
As a former coach defensive assistant I must agree with goat to a certain extent. Just like any other team there are certain advantages DLS has and there are things other teams can take advantage of. The best way I feel would be to win individual match-ups. find the weakest link and exploit it. Often time coaches get caught up in executing a game plan instead of sticking with what is working. Their D-line in particular is small, not very quick, or overwhelmingly athletic. A big, strong, and athletic offensive line can pound on them individually for an entire half and force them to make an adjustment that favors you.
November 17th, 2009 at 8:27 am
WannaKnow maybe we can work together u seem to understand FOOTBALL!!! not just calling plays cuz it worked in practice. this game is art to me and its so painful 2 watch sometimes. Knowledge is power knowing what 2 do and thinking u know what 2 do r 2 different things.#170 PARTNER4 where’s 1,2and 3
November 17th, 2009 at 8:31 am
GOAT you are a fascinating character. Your post sounds like a Gatorade ad. I understand football and 1 on 1 coverage and matchups and everything else you dribble on about in your posts. You speak as though noone has tried any of these things during the past 2 decades. There are plenty of coaches out there who know how to gameplan and exploit individual matchups, however this is high school football we’re talking about. Not the New England Patriots. Since you went there though, Moss had plenty of 1 on 1 coverage when he played for the raiders, why wasn’t he successful there? Also, I am not a fool as you have accused, I have been a successful coach and am 4-0 as a coach and player against your beloved SL state. I guess we figured out how to get those square pegs into those round holes. I hope someone takes DLS down this year and every year after that, I just know that it is not as easy as you try to make it sound. If it was that easy, someone would have figured it out by now.
Wannaknow, I know of a few teams with big strong O-lines who have competed with DLS and worn them down and all that, but you are forgetting that the game isn’t just about offense. Monte Vista moved the ball all over them this year, but it was their D that cost them the game. Their veer is tough to stop or even slow down. It is particularly frustrating that the guy who is throwing the rock is your next door neighbor or the guy running the ball lives in Antioch or the guy tackling your running back lives in Galt. They come from all over to form an allstar team. I can assure you that their O-Line is strong and athletic and always is. Take a look at their bottom halves some time. They may look unassuming from the waist up but below the waist they are as powerful as any line out there and they utilize the rolling start like no other. I’m not one to complain and this isn’t an excuse, but it is tough for a public school to compete against a team that collects players from all over. More power to them for winning the way they do, I’m not trying to knock them for it just stating the facts.
November 17th, 2009 at 8:32 am
GOAT its panther4 not partner, it has got to be tough to come up with a game plan when you can’t spell or read!
November 17th, 2009 at 8:47 am
uR right i dont spell or read very well i must apologize 4 that english is the most illogical laugauage derived from several different laugauages
no consistancy im a math man logical thinker my pops specailize in quantum machanic i grew up with a genius
so i think nothing but logic u go take the MENSA TEST
AND TELL ME UR IQ if it not over 140 it hard 4 u 2 understand me
November 17th, 2009 at 8:48 am
175 I see what you’re saying. But, what I believe goat and I are both saying is you have to find ways to get your playmakers the ball and let them make plays. If I know you outside backer runs a 4.8 and my RB runs a 4.4/4.5 he gets swing passes to put that backer in a trail position. ALL GAME LONG. Then when you adjust I use motion to get it back. If you sub for him I attack the sub. The starter was the starter for a reason. No way I run between the tackles against a team that doesn’t move well. If they wanna widen the DE I’m flexing my TE and running off tackle right underneath him. I’ll let my FB worry about the LB and tell my RB “just do you.” It’s like chess. If you look at all the teams that have come close you can see exactly where they messed up. That goes for any team.
Just like Berkeley last week. PV was keying on Galvin. So move him in the slot and run Ned. They still need to account for him. Why throw down field. your not good at it. Swing passes, slants, and hitches keeps them honest. Especially if you’re moving Galvin around. Hope you’re listening Jacket Coaches. If your not you’re gonna have a long Saturday night
November 17th, 2009 at 9:01 am
r we coaching the coach via blog lol
November 17th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I will put one caveat on this. Against DLS you have to have the players to pull it off. Don’t take a team with one “good” athlete and think you can pull this off. You need 2 of the 3. There’s Coaching, Discipline, And Talent. DLS has the 1st 2. And we’re talking athletic talent not learned skill. You take a well coached, discipline team with a higher level of talent and you can have DLS.
November 17th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Wannaknow, well said on post #178 concerning B-High a good Midget coach at the youth football should be able to how to use R. Galvin and keep a team honest. I hope coach A.Carter reads your post and my earlier post on this subject or it will be time to clean out your lockers.
November 17th, 2009 at 9:50 am
let me tell all the coaches that think one person can do it when u have a WR thats fast and can touch 11.5ft.
he is the only one that can play on that plain i.e. randy moss at the vikings its just a simple as 3 flyies up stop over coaching let the kids profrom
alot of coach want 2 be the reason the teams sucessful and if u let the kids do it u dont feel like much of a coach
November 17th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Can any of you tell me what team in NCS has more talent than DLS?
November 17th, 2009 at 10:32 am
GOAT who is this mysterios player that you keep referring to. What team is he on? Are they undefeated and will every team he plays on ever be undefeated because he can jump and catch and run fast?
November 17th, 2009 at 10:48 am
i was reffering 2 ur comment about randy moss and the dum ass raiders not throwing him the ball and the short corners on DLS and my freinds son is the starting lb at DLS and quite frankly i dont think he’s that good must b the system over there lol
November 17th, 2009 at 10:54 am
panther4- Must be a present or former Dela Coach right?
November 17th, 2009 at 11:09 am
It’s hard to name a team that has more talent than DLS because not many other NCS teams can pull kids from other districts to play for them. =(
November 17th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Well blog brothers, getting my stitches removed after the pinole game. Their defense played well, and we didnt throw any swings,or quik slants. Hopefully the kids had a wakeup call, or we will start packing up with the stars. Haleys COMET, that is. Good luck to everyone in the playoffs, and thanks again for the coverage Jimmy D. Please Oline Block, so Rickey can Run, Go Jackets!
November 17th, 2009 at 11:52 am
panther 4 i no now that ur not a good coach cuz of ur foolish sarcasism u think there no I in team and ur right but theres an I in WINNER some players have enuff talent to out play concepts run thru zones and umbrellas put pressure on brackets and if u buzz ur backers break his ankles but u werent that good so u limit ur players for the lack of ur skills
November 17th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Again GOAT who is this player you are reffering to? If he is such a winner which undefeated team is he on? I’m glad you are picking up on my sarcasm because I’m laying it on pretty thick. I’m not sure I understand your point? I’m not a good coach because I am sarcastic? Or, I’m not a good coach because I stress the idea of TEAM and working together with a common goal. A think what you are saying is that if you have a really good player on your team you should never lose becuase all you have to do is find a way to get him the ball. For example when Jahved Best was a Salesian, they should have been one of the top teams in the country Cuz he break backers ankles if day try da buzz on em. Don’t forget you still have to have someone to get him the ball. My skill as a player isn’t important, however, I did play college ball. Nothing like your schedule changing JV dominance I’m sure, but I was alright.
Coach Trot, Not a De La fan or supporter just a realist. They get all the best from around the area and that is a fact.
November 17th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Panther4- Good points.. I was referring to your comment 175# and couldn’t think of any team anywhere that was 4-0 vs San Leandro except for dela.. But as i went back to read it again you said played and coach which makes a big difference…
November 17th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
“They get all the best from around the area and that is a fact.” the best from all areas* you mean.
November 17th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Panther ur pretty clever with word but not that shrap u keep reading but not understand did u play college ball or watch people play u sound like a filler but u come 2 the bHS game and watch the second coming the rebirth of greatness
November 17th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
GOAT
Who did SL lose too this year?
November 17th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Bellarmine and Valley Christian.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
why y did u ask
November 17th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
most likey because he was intrested… lol that’s usally why people ask questions.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
thank u 4 ur input sir james
who are u rooting 4 in this fine football season
November 17th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
for acouple of the ebal teams to lose this week, I would love to here what excuses they come up with.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Why don’t people say they are rooting for someone to win, and not root for someone to loose along with some snide remark. I am rooting for Cal High. I think the matchup against Washington will be exciting. I am also rooting for the EBAL in general. No snide remarks necessary.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
I’m hoping every EBAL team wins so that we can hear the James’ of the world whine some more about the seeding and why its not fair…
November 17th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
G.O.A.T. from your posts it is starting to sound like you are a me first, team second type of player. the thing that separates DLS from other teams is that they play team football. Watch the defense, they may not be the fastest guys but they are on the ball carrier fast. you will see one guy hit him and before you know it two or three other guys are there. as wannaknow said they are a very disciplined squad and i want to add something off of that, they are the most physical squad. as you said about jerry rice, he could run all day and that is the Spartans. When other teams are at 80% the Spartans are at 100%. Look at the MV game. The whole first half the Mustang O-Line was holding the D-Line at bay. All of a sudden you get to the second half and they were getting blown by.
The weakness every one knows about with the Spartans this year is their pass coverage. As wannaknow pointed out getting your running backs to get out and get some swing passes is a great way to move the ball on them and Foothill did this because DLS was cheating to cover the pass as well as they knew they would not be able to run it down the middle. By doing this it opened some down field looks for Mannion. DLS did make an adjustment and switched out of their 4-4 defense and dropped an extra safety back in coverage. This paid huge dividends and the defense was outstanding the entire second half. The best receiver DLS faced all year was McCroy from Lakeland and the Dreadnaughts did take advantage of the matchup letting him go out and make plays. A few times you saw the qb just put the ball up there letting the wideout use his speed and jumping ability to get it. The problem for most NCS teams is they don’t have that type of player to exploit the matchup.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Monte Vista also used the short passes in the first game and then just letting the receiver run. McGovern got a lot of yards of those type of plays.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
well im rooting 4 SL STATE and all its splender with the 4 headed monster coming at u live and direct in real HD real time no streming sorry no instant reply tho. the SWanny -The Hands- Al B right Back -The 3RDKing the greast show on earth Has come to berkely
get ur popcorn ready speed speed speed are u ready 4 some football Ur mom can help u now its showtime the stage is set LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!
November 17th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
RENAGADE what to u see what i no
November 17th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
what?
November 17th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
That might have just been the most hilarious post I’ve read on here in a long time.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
@HAAL Fan, I agree #s 204 and 205! What does it all mean?? I’ve read it several times.LOL
November 17th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
LOL….I give The G.O.A.T Credit…He’s very entertaining….
November 17th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Team mates will be selected and some players will be cast out, for this day is for cleansing. You must cleanse your soul so your body and mind will follow. The climax can only be reached, so that you can experience the true meaning of football. A vast oasis in the middle of utopia will be the encounter for some, for others only a small step away from purgatory, where few still lurk in the shadows. Shadow dwellers are welcome if only to be voyeurs. Let the light shine on the innocent and meek for today we play FOOTBALL!!!
November 17th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
The GOAT sure changed his writing style. Now he uses punctuation and has dropped the text speak.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Cuz i’d b a got dam genius if i had infinite thought.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
A genius has finite thought. To have infinite thought you would have to be a god.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
every thought trigers another thought and so on and so on and so on and so on have ur thoughts ever stop do u know how do u precieve thought
November 17th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Come on goat u copy and pasted still luv u bro
November 17th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
lol calm down brother my mind is complex i dont where greatness start and where it ends but im laid up hurt and all i can do is think 4 a few days lol
November 18th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Irks me to no end to hear people talk about the better coaching in the EBal…. What about the better parenting in the EBAl??? There are great caoches over ther no question,but do they have to deal with the same issue’s that other area’s have too? Kidz not eating 3 meals a day??/etc…
theres Great coaching goin on all over the bay under much tougher circumstances…Had to get that off my chest… Im out..
November 19th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Looks like College Park is a dark horse on their side of the bracket. They are definitely peaking at the right time.
November 21st, 2009 at 11:07 pm
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27-7 Berkeley at the end of the third quarter.Galvin has more than 200 yards
November 21st, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Clayton Valley over Concord 31-20 4:00 left in the 3rd Q
November 29th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Jerry Rice didn’t learn how to catch in the NFL???? Do you remember him catching 100 passes a year from Willie “Satallite” Totten at Mississippi Valley State? I watched him on BET when I was a kid….trust me, he could catch…Walsh, I’m sure taught him alot, but how to catch the ball wasn’t one of the things. He may have had some freshman jitters?